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So did anyone else switch sides tonight? I was betting on P5
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So did anyone else switch sides tonight?

I was betting on P5 this whole time, but the delay last september, coupled with the troubling lack of news, now a full quarter into this year, killed any hype I had. I wasnt initially sold on FFXV but the announcements, the demo, the hype, and the security and comfort of knowing a release date is locked in made me give up on Atlus and Persona 5 tonight. Now I'm sure P5 will be good once it comes out, dont get me wrong, but everything else surrounding it has been really shady and rubbed me the wrong way. But I might wait for a sale or just even pirate P5 now because fuck Atlus for handling their biggest game ever so terribly.
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>>332622813
How is Atlus handling their biggest game terribbly?
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Bad action RPG versus bad turn-based RPG.

The only difference will be in the story and aesthetic, and I think Persona 5 is a lot more interesting in that department.
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>>332622813
I understand why you'd be pissed at Atlus, but I don't understand why you wouldn't be pissed at SE for the very same reason. The thing took fucking ten years to come out. If that's not "handling their biggest game ever so terribly" I don't know what is.
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>>332622985
What do you think?

>>332623062
If you hate both games why even bother posting?

>>332623283
That's the thing. I was never a big FF fan. I played the snes games, 7, 13 and that was it. I enjoy the series I guess you could say but am not a fan. If I was following this game since 2006 I can understand being pissed and wouldn't even look at this game. But I got a vested interest ever since E3 2013 with that amazing trailer and have been following it ever since. Besides, that was when they actually started. The game before that was just a concept with some fancy CGI, not an actual in development product.

And what has Atlus been doing in comparison since the announcement? Delaying it for shitty spinoffs and some janky low budget 3DS garbage. They did it not once, not twice, but three times and it will happen again sometime this year. Realistically, P5 will be out in 2018. It will be nowhere near the scope, density, or emotional ride that FFXV will be. It will be P4 in HD.

I have no hope for it, you see.
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>>332623669
>If you hate both games why even bother posting?
I don't hate both games.
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>>332623669
By not revealing much info?
They do this like every time and only releasing a few trailers, and one of them is near release makes people hyped.
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>>332623805
It sure sounded like you did

>>332623885
I dont understand the last part. P5 will be delayed once more, mark my words to the end of the year or early next year for japs. We will get the game late 2017 or early 2018. How you somehow expect your excitement to last for another year and a half is beyond me m8
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>>332622813
i ALMOST switch the side and then i play the demo.

fucking LOL.

10 YEARS OF DEVELOPMENT .
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>>332624083
FF15 hype has lasted for long despite it being delayed for 10 years, P5 doesn't look bad compared to that.
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>>332623669
Pretty weak argument, you have no hope for a game because the marketing is shit. It sounds like you're just mad about the lack of information, which is fair but they could just shit out another trailer and win you over again.
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>>332624083
>It sure sounded like you did
Nah. FF games range from terrible to pretty good in terms of gameplay. Persona has ranged from terrible to decent.

FFXV looks pretty awful to play, like babby's first action game, while we have no reason to believe Persona 5 will be any better than Persona 4 on a gameplay level.

Like all Persona fans I'm in it more for the story and charm than the gameplay.
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>>332624201
FF is a juggernaut of a series and one with a rich and long history. I'd say the hype left at some point in 2009 or so. It wasn't until 2013 when it was confirmed with a trailer to actually be making progress. And the last year,combined with tonights big push, have been full hype mode.

>>332624205
Youre right, I'm mad about the lack of communication. That's why Im not giving them money. Im either pirating it on PS3 or buying it used on PS4 if I want better graphics or whatever. I wont deny a new trailer wouldnt get me excited, but it would just be like using a defibrilator on a corpse. A sudden shock and jolt and then back to nothing.

>>332624206
I have played a lot of duscae and played around a little with the new demo tonight and while it is a bit clunky and rough, for the most part it plays like i expected it to. It could be a lot better, but its not bad in its current state. Its good but has room for improvement. Persona 3+ have always solid turn based gameplay to me. Its simple, fast, not bogged down in menus or shitty meters, and is mechanically simple with the element system. As far as turn based rpgs goes its up there for me. Not as engaging as an action based rpg but still fun.
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Why do we have to pick a side?

I'm excited for both. I'm probably getting both, and there's really no need for there to be fanbase wars between these two series.

Like, seriously.
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>>332624683
weirdo
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>>332624683
I think most people here are in the same situation. It's more of a matter of "Which one are you hyped the most for" or "Which one do you think will end up being better".
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>>332624683
True, well at least FF15 will kick P5s ass critically and financially. Serves Atlus right for being incompetent.
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>>332624810
Eh, I wouldn't be so sure. Both series get high praise from critics, and Persona 5 doesn't need to sell anywhere near as much as FFXV does to be successful. It's completely feasible that P5 could be more profitable and successful even while selling less.
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>>332624683
No anon. The fact that they are JRPGs means you have to choose one and only one. Buying both games is unheard of.
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Was always hype but im reaching new unbearable levels of hype now. His sword clipping thru the floor at 1.45 was funny tho.
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The moment a new trailer or some type of substantial information about P5 releases you'll come right back to it's side. Some of the P5 fans are annoyed that Atlus hasn't given us any real news since the delay back in September while FF got this huge blowout event.

Also who the fuck still picks 'sides' today? Buy both if you have an interest in both. As if console wars weren't dumb enough.
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>>332622813
>Picking either side
JRPGs are little more than movies, and you should feel bad for liking them.
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>>332624901
Still, it sounds better to say our game sold 8 million+ compared to this one that barely crossed 1 million.

>>332625146
No reason to support P5 because of how mean spirited theyve been. The frequent delays also spell out doom for the game. It will be a mess, technically, audibly, censored, or otherwise, and doesn't deserve money. This is why I will pirate or buy it used. They want to fuck with the fans? No problem, have less money
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>>332625304
P4G sold almost a million on the Vita. Persona 5, unless it bombs, is going to clear 2 million easily.
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>>332625362
Youre overestimating hard. It will be the lords gift if it reaches 2 million and lucky to clear 1 million. Vita owners are dedicated weeaboos, PS4 owners are all over the map and are way more spread out in terms of taste and audiences.
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>>332625304
I love how you said in the OP that P5 will be good once it comes out but now you say that it'll be a mess. Are you really that fanny flustered by Atlus' radio silence? Don't get me wrong it's annoying as fuck but that seems incredibly childish.
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Quality thread OP.
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>>332622813
the more i hear about FFXV, the less I care. P5 is probably going to be about as good as P4, which is exciting.
FFXV is a huge wild card, it will either be an amazing game or a sluggish masher that looks pretty but isn't fun to play

I'm sure NieR Automata will be the superior action JRPG this year anyway
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>>332625503
Im pretty split on how it will be. Using past Persona games as an indicator, its hopeful to say the game will be good. But all the delays mean only one thing: something critically wrong occured and they are damage controlling it by being quiet. Whether its a technical problem or an issue with the game story, pacing, systems and so on is up for you to decide.

Im leaning on the side that it will hopefully be ok, but really who knows now with how shady and quiet they've been.
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>>332625451
The PS4 audience more or less includes the Vita audience. Precisely because we're talking about dedicated weeaboos, I can 100% guarantee they have a PS4 or at least a PS3 to buy P5 on, or will acquire one in due time.
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>Versus XIII/XV finally has a release date
>P5 is likely coming this year as well

Fuck this "choosing sides" shit, buying both first day because I love playing games
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>>332625672
>I'm sure NieR Automata will be the superior action JRPG this year anyway
The man with exceptional taste.
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>>332625672
The largest problem with bringing Automata into this is that I'm not actually sure how much of a JRPG will it be.
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>>332625694
I think its more fair to say theres more weeaboos on PS3 and Vita than PS4 and Vita. Thatd be quite funny if it ended up selling more on PS3 in the end. I have both so I'm not worried. Its just a matter of wanting jap voices and the game for free, or a physical copy with better graphics but used.
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>>332625889
that is a good question, since we haven't heard much about its systems yet, but you could almost say the same about FFXV at this point.

Both can be considered action games, at least. Action JRPG's though? We'll see.
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Nope. Still couldn't care less about FFXV.
I'll just continue waiting, it's not like I have anything better to do
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>>332625975
This is going to sound harsh, but PS3 is dead. Period. Even in Japan it's becoming more and more irrelevant in terms of sales, and Japan was the country that opposed the most resistance to adopting PS4.
The people who actually buy games have moved on (including weebs), which is why you see some companies not bothering to even localize the PS3 versions of games anymore. Loud pockets on the internet are not representative of the full audience.
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I just want some news damnit
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>>332626262
Normally I would agree with you completely but I'm sure many people bought a PS3 just for playing P5, either back when it was first announced or years before after playing P4 and expecting it to be the last PS2 game. Beyond that, they are also releasing Odin Sphere HD for the PS3, physical. Atlus is a terrible company all around but I don't think they would throw PS3 users under the bus, especially since a lot of weeaboos are sad schmucks whose only payday is once a year on their birthdays. P5 being PS3s swan swong would be similar to P4s situation back in 2008, interestingly enough.

PS3 sales are beginning to tank every where though, no doubt about that.
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>>332625304
>The frequent delays also spell out doom for the game.
The irony in this statement is so ridiculous.
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>>332626480
I'm sure the PS3 version of P5 will still release and be localized, but the game selling more on PS3? That's just not gonna happen, not anymore.
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>>332626569
What irony?
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>>332622813
>switch sides
What is it with you kids? Why does everything have to be about "sides"?
Get both.
Or neither.
Fuck's sake.
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>>332622813
where the fuck were you even going with this? you're going to pirate a game because it was delayed, and your pitting it against another game for no reason when you can easily just play both? I'm just having trouble wrapping my head around the point of this thread. it's like you've created a false dilemma out of boredom. start working on that backlog, anon
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>>332622813
Remember the game you switched sides for has been in development for 10 years
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>>332626650
This
There was never any sides for me
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>>332626660
he's just pissy that one game got a release date while the other's still being decided.
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I'm going to buy both. OP is a huge faggot.
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>>332626720
This
>waah atlus dont give me news how dare they
OP is faggot as always
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>>332626643
Assuming he meant that it's ironic to say that the delays spell out doom for P5 when the same can be said for FFXV.
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>>332626865
FFXV wasn't delayed. They weren't seriously working on it at all until around 2012. It was simply announced too early and buried by other projects.
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>>332622813
>a game confirmed coming out this year with a release date vs a game said to release this summer with no info whatsoever

Kek
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>>332626594
I stll dont know. I think PS4 will be the lead in sales but PS3 wont be massively far behind.

>>332626650
Because having a stake and not being neutral on a matter is more fun, dont you think?

>>332626660
I will play one in 2016 and the other will be playable in 2017 or beyond. There is no false dilemma here, but you are right on my boredom. I don't work thursdays and fridays, there's nothing I want to play, 4chan is slow at night, and I've already seen 3 escorts this month.

I am so unbelievably bored with my life and these games were a big part in my reason for continuing to wake up and go with it all. I now have more hope in FF15 after being given solid news and release date. What Atlus, pitiably, failed to realize is that their fans and followers are pathetic and are taking advantage of that. I bet some little dicked gook from either Atlus japan or USA is in this thread laughing it up, planning for another shitty stream to delay the game once more while they continue to shit out low effort, budget 3DS games.
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>picking sides

What are you 12? This isn't Twilight faggots. Just get both.
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>>332622813
Persona 5.

FFXV will be a big, overbloated mess with no clear direction or vision.
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>>332627110
P5 will have vision, but it could still be a mess.
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Can't Atlus just give us some gameplay info outside of a bombastic trailer? That is all I need, I can't believe Square of all people have been more transparent with this kinda stuff then anyone else. As of right now all we know about P5 gameplay mechanics is just guesswork.
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>>332627110
>FFXV will be a big, overbloated mess with no clear direction or vision.
I wish I'd get a dollar every time I heard this in these exact words
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>>332627279
Heres your gameplay mechanics: everyone pulls out their gun and the game is a firing range on enemies.

>>332627110
FFXV has quite the massive scope and vision in it, promising to tell the tale of a young boy who ages and eventually becomes king. In P5 its more high school hijinx and youre a little emo punk who got bullied because they didn't fit in with everyone and you put on your cape, fedora, fingerless gloves, and mask and jump in paintings to stop le evil in peoples heart. Some vision for an 8 year project.
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>>332627279
Atlus was never transparent desu
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Why the fuck are there sides? Is it illegal to buy and play or even enjoy both?
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>>332627547
On /v/ everyone take sides
We fight over literally everything
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>giving a shit about FF15
The demo just showed everyone what a piece of garbage it is. I'd rather play DMC2 again than that demo.

Persona 5 will be like Persona 4, a mediocre jrpg. Which is better than the rest of the shit persona series.
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>>332627670
:^)
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Ok
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>>332627547
Its not illegal, it just doesn't make sense. One look at each will tell you why. That building/city hall area where the fights take place for the new demo? That arena is bigger than P5s whole town. Square gives a release date and a big media event to celebrate it. Atlus gives a 40 hour stream with teddie talking and random imagery, and a 3 minute trailer where they announce a new delay every time.

You'd be stupid to give Atlus money
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>Reeeee why isn't atlus releasing more info
>I like FF15 more because I'm pissed at Atlus for making me wait

OP in a nutshell
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>>332627771
This
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>>332622813
The demo they released is absolute garbage.

P5 confirmed for being the better game.
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>>332627757
>That arena is bigger than P5s whole town
Ban this retard
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>Not playing both when they come out

come on now
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>>332622813
It's ok anon

Just look at the menus

Everything will be fine
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your such a fucking SE cocksucker jesus op. im going to buy both so fuck off
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>>332626660
this entire post

just buy both fucking game already,
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>>332627529
That's still not a good thing.
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>>332627913
For their sake I hope it is
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>>332622813
Why don't you just play the superior Atlus game numbered 5 that will be released this year?
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>>332628326
EO is either love ir hate
Not a game for everyone
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>>332628326
Not my thing. I dont like getting lost and wandering around claustrophobic dungeons for hours at a time, only to die in a random encounter and lose hours of work. I cant handle these games anymore without getting mad. I used to like drpgs when I was a kid though
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>>332622813
FFXV will completely decimate P5, it's not even a contest.
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>>332628556
>mom, look! It's my first troll post!
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>>332622813
>coupled with the troubling lack of news, now a full quarter into this year

If you had any idea how Atlus works, you'd know this is common. Quit trying to stir up shit with some imaginary jarpig war.
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>>332628326
I tried getting into EO, but I can't. It's not for me.

I really fucking dig the art design of the game though. Always looks great
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>>332622813
Eat shit, wedgefag
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>>332622813
>not being both
I PO my deluxe CE for XV and I'll be doing the same for whatever equivalent P5 has.
And if XV gets a PC port sometimes down the line I'll buy that too.
I just want to play vidya OP, fuck off with your jrpg wars.
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>>332627913
What a fucking mess. Literally eyes cancer right there in your webm.
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post yfw Sega goys out and Persona 5 only gets a digital release in the U.S
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>pirating SMT Final and FFX

Not hyped for either. Wait kills.
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>>332623669
>janky low-budget garbage
Etrian Odyssey V will be a better game than either Persona or FF could ever hope to be
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Square be dishing out hella console games this year while Atlus can't even handle just their single one.
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>>332628932
>If you had any idea how Atlus works, you'd know this is common.
Remember when people used this excuse to insist P5 really was coming out in 2015?
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>>332622813
>switch sides
>taking sides about what $60 game you'll buy
what the fuck is this meme? Why wouldn't you buy both?
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>>332633657
>Why wouldn't you buy both?
He probably lost interest. Don't blame him since there's quite a few games i really wanna play this year and Atlus fucked up by not releasing it in that dead year 2015. Worst thing this shit will probably delay till 2017
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>>332627913
that looks cool af
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When Sakaguchi appeared my faith was restored
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>>332622813

LOL ANON, EVEN SQUARE THEMSELVES ARE AFRAID OF P5

REMEMBER THE SURVEY? NOW LOOK AT THE RELEASE DATE.
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