I got Etrian Odyssey Untold The Milllennium Girl for my 3ds from the eShop sale and is story mode worth it? Because this map shit is driving me up the fucking wall. The first map took me a whole 3 miserable hours. Is classic mode where its at?
>>332581631
>this map shit is driving me up the fucking wall
You fucked up.
If you don't like drawing maps then the series is not for you and you should just quit now.
I think you bought the wrong game if you don't like maps, m8.
>>332581631
>Because this map shit is driving me up the fucking wall
EO isn't for you then because it gets so much more crazy
Well is there a alternative to this then? Without the map drawing? I'm just trying to find a decent dungeon crawler. Delver left me hanging on how short it was.
>>332582468
Play strange journey or one the buttload of dungeon crawlers on vita
>>332582468
Dark Spire, or get a PSTV/Vita.
>>332581631
>This map shit is driving me up the wall
Basically the entire point of Etrian Odyssey is map-drawing porn
>>332582468
Pretty sure there's an automapping feature in the game, check the options.
Though, carefully drawing the map manually is most of the enjoyment I got out of the game, otherwise it would be pretty damn repetitive.
>>332582468
SMT Strange Journey doesn't have map drawing, it fills itself out. Persona Q and EO Untold 2 also have an auto fill mode for the maps.
You fucking casual.
>>332582892
EOIV has automapping as well
>>332581631
How does the FIRST map take THREE fucking hours? Holy shit.
Is the story in this gamy any good? Im thinking of getting it
>>332583114
This is not a game about story.
>>332582468
>>332583059
They all have an automap option.
>>332581631
>3 hours
Literally how
>>332583114
>EO
>Story
Don't get your hopes up
>>332583114
No, the stories in Untold and Untold 2 are garbage.
yes
turn on full auto map if you hate mapping, then you only need to place iconsle millenom girl
>>332583293
>>332583313
>>332583376
Im so dissapainted
Any other games with the same aesthetic that has a good story?
>>332581631
You can have the map draw itself in the options menu if you're retarded.
But THREE HOURS? Holy shit, you must be terrible at video games.
But are there any good dungeon crawlers for PC?
It took three hours because the tutorial explained absolutely nothing to me.
>>332583685
Could try Darkest Dungeon.
>>332583528
hold on a minute EO untold 1 is trash, but untold 2 is much better game and fixes a lot of the problems from the first remakestill, if you dont like map drawing this is not for you
>>332585726
>>332586003
>>332583685
Grimrock 1+2
>>332583114
Well, it had Canada. That's pretty much the only noteworthy thing about it.
>>332587296
>this thread
>>332587649
where did you get this image
>>332588208
no clue, some random anon dumping bunch of official art i think.
>>332588438
neat, i thought those pictures only existed on the tiny 3ds screenrunemaster is STACKED
>>332581631
you are not going to enjoy it then but try classic mode first
>>332581631
>three hours just drawing a map
You're playing it wrong.
>>332581938
I recently got past that floor. Is it really supposed to be complicated? That one was really easy as far as map-drawing goes.
>>332585726
>>332586003
I hope V has pigtails fortress skins for Dragoon or some other earthrun classHopefully Cestus, seeing as though we're missing bob ronin still and the only returning design so far is ponytail ronin.
>>332587649
Chef is definitely best girl in U2
Both Ricky and her crew of faggots fucking sucked.
Dragged the story the fuck down and Gladshamwow was a sack of shit dungeon.
What a shame you can't get some of those dope ass gunner and highlander abilities in 1st run classic, because they're pretty good. Along with the exclusive armor and weapons.
EOU2's crew is much better outside of the stupid as fuck moeblob princess who only exists to HURR and DURR about everything. Literally the Rinoa of the game.
That said, not only does the gameplay improve, but you get to explore the baller ass story-dungeon even in classic. In addition, you get to enjoy the second best character in the entire franchise, second only tothe count from EO4, who is so bro as fuck, you probably couldn't make an equal unless you cloned him..
>>332592712
>Not thinking Chloe is worse than Arianna
Loli doesn't save shit characters.
>>332592450
Makes me wonder who this guy fucked to get her to end up so good.
>>332593031
Chloe is kind in her own ways.
Arianna is such a fucking blatant anime as shit mary sue, it's pathetic. Fuck himukai up the ass.
>>332593120
Well regina is his grandaughter, so he probablyHad a waifu he cared for dearly but she died before him, and their child plowed some top tier waifu to create the real best girl
>>332593313
She's dumb and comes from royalty, so she doesn't know a whole lot about adventuring. Can't exactly expect a lot from a literally sheltered princess.
Doesn't excuse her shit characterization entirely, mind, but it does explain it.
and don't you dare use mary sue when Ricky exists.Plus Himukai just does the art, it isn't his fault.
>>332593313
Himukai didn't write the characters, idiot.
>>332581631
>doesn't like map drawing
Fucking casuals. I bet you grind too.
>>332593659
>>332594246
I still blame him for not using the original Fafnir design.
>>332595008
what original fafnir design?
>>332581938
Is it only crazy because you have to draw your own map? Because that's just tedious more than anything. There are lots of DRPGs with a hell of a lot more complex dungeons than that.
>>332595542
The one from the artbook.
>>332595762
I think he means fatlus DRPGs in general. Shit like eriandus.
That said, B19 with the teleporters was so much fucking worse.
>putting in more than 10 teleporters in an area when you only have number panels from 0 to 9
FUCK YOU ATLUS
I HATED THIS SHIT IN EO4 AND I HATE IT EVEN MORE HERE
For reference, compare the original and the untold versions of the same floor.
>>332581631
>3 hours
>floor one
STOP PLAYING
the whole game is maps
this isn't your game
>>332597012
Well are you going to post it or not?
>>332597175
Faggot
>>332597952
i fail to see the differencesi had completely forgotten i had the art book
>>332597952
He still recycled the look, I don't see the problem.
Plus the final transformation is bitching in its own way.
>>332597012
EO4 didn't warp you to random locations though. They always warped you to the opposite side of the map making it consistent, and removing the trial and error aspect.
If you're complaining about B19F, just wait until you get to B29F of Claret Hollows.
remove
>>332598476
There's more than the first transformation?
When do I get it? I'm on the second stratum boss.
>>332598898
But its fun! Whats the point of mapping if its all straight forward?
Man, Strange Journey was such a great game.
>>332598935
just keep playing negro, and leave the thread before you get spoiled or something, jeez
>>332599701
I already know the ending and I beat classicand the originalfirst.
I just wanna know when my fafnir gets cooler.Also fem highlander best of himukai's designs before EOV dropped holy shit
>>332598898
No, see, I don't like the fact that numbers stop at 9. If they had gone higher, I wouldn't give a shit.
>>332599701
Goddamn ricky and highlander had some good chemistry.
>captcha: first mike
hue
>>332599980Use red tabs on everything past ten.Like 11= R1
>>332582756
I like to get physical copies of all my games when possible so I looked up The Dark Spire. Why the fuck is it so expensive?
>>332600202
NO, FUCK YOU
I'M ENJOYING MY ANGER
>>332600280
Just get an R4 and quit bitching.
>>332590064
it doesn't need to complicated, you just need to be able to read it and know what you meant and if you find a point of interest, take note because it will likely be a mission objective
Wait for EOV instead
>>332600449
it's okay anon.
There isn't any need to get upset.
>>332600629
best potato
>>332581631
>Because this map shit is driving me up the fucking wall
>>332600629
>one tooth
>pixel for a nose
Jesus christ.
That aside
>all that fucking mapping shit in EO5 videos
How many gimmick maps is that game going to have, holy shit. Next thing you know, they'll drop tiles all together.
>>332600676
Man it just hit me how many doujins aren't going to go up on the panda for the 5 girlsespecially Fencer and necromancer
>>332600802
what mapping shit?
>>332581631
I'm auto-walking and have something holding down A to grind at this moment. Saw it was on sale, got past the weeb intro. Don't give a shit about story, haven't touched it. I've played a couple EO games and I dunno why I keep goin back to do the same shit. I don't remember but was the art always so off in the first game too? Cause the artstyle in EOU looks fucked up
>>332600802
>there's more options for map customization and new obstacles
>eventually remove tiles, literally what every step you take is
what kind of logic is that
>>332597012
>>putting in more than 10 teleporters in an area when you only have number panels from 0 to 9
>Not using the panel next to it for a tens digit
>>332600569
I will emulate it if I ever get around to it, I'm just disappointed that a legit copy costs so much.
>>332600960
EOU is just high quality old art with new designs thrown in.
Just compare Simon and the inn guy.
GUYS
I JUST REALIZED
IF EOU3 COMES OUT
WE'LL GET TO SEE WHAT TRAP INNKEEP'S SISTER LOOKS LIKE
>>332600880
All the tools and icon notes for the maps, noting obstacles, traps, and a whole bunch of other new stuff.
>>332600995
Maybe I'm just stupid.
>>332601065
I DID THAT SHIT AND IT WAS FUCKING TERRIBLE
Wow a thread about videogames.
I'm currently playing Bravely Second and wanted to start SMTIV afterwards. What game would you compare it to to give me an idea of what to expect? I'm guessing it's first person crawling similiar to Strange Journey but there have been 3D ones and I think animated cutscenes so I'm wondering
>>332601134
>mfw I thought innkeeper in EO1 was female until untold
>>332601297
I'm willing to bet Missy's tits will be the only 2d portrait with a 3D effect.
>>332601372
SMT4 isn't first person dungeon crawling at all. it's first person combat, but movement is all third person.
Honestly think persona for how you do dungeon crawling.
>>332601493
>3 Innkeep's sister is actually this crazy Ara Ara older sister type voiced by the same chick who did camilla
>You can have her take over the inn menu like you could with the loli in U2
>>332601738
You should have specified 3 and 4.
P1 was first person dungeons (LIKE IT SHOULD BE)
>>332602021
>Anon doesn't know how SMT4 plays
what makes you think he even knows P1 and 2 exist
>>332599701
Just tell me please anon.I really don't like this transformation I have now, it just looks dumb compared to what Himukai can normally crank out.
>>332601738
Thanks, looking forward spending my time with it.
>>332602384
I hope you have fun, anon.Don't buy the DLC until you have a clear, and have an ass bird for the second boss.
>>332602232
Wasn't P1 the opposite? First person movement, atleast indoors, and "third person" combat? I remember somewhat gridbased looking furious dancing
>>332602232
you get it after beating 3rd stratum boss i believe, you go back to Ginnungagap,defeat bertrand who transforms into demi fafnir
>>332602985
Thank you based anon.Also, what do with that CP webm going around, I accidentally clicked it, I'm honestly a little scared.
>>332603246
little CP never hurted anyone, besides, the CP poster usually tags everyone on the thread.
>>332603921I clicked play trying to report it. I just don't want the party van after me.
So, Hounds can name their falcons and wolves, right?
Anyone know what exactly they do, anyway?
>>332603246
Nothing actually happens anon don't sweat it. I've fallen for it multiple times in the past and I'm alright
>>332604134
no one will ever show up at your door for clicking CP webms
>>332604246
Oh thank god.
so /EO/, what's your EOV party going to be?
Personally I'm going with
Fencer Cestus Dragoon
Warlock/Necromancer Herbalist
Or
Cestus Dragoon Reaper
Necromancer ShamanistI-I hope I'm not getting where dragoon is effective wrong.
do we even have the EO5 alt portraits yet?
All I know is that cestus has a turban clad bitchboy and Rip and Tear men.
>>332585060
>Darkest Dungeon
>literally RNG the game
no
The story of EOU was so bad
>scientists decide that they should let the loli be the one who should destroy the giant unstoppable monster in the future instead of a trained soldier
>she also keeps describing the nuclear bomb as a spear you can use
>even the god damn AI fucking does this
>ruins original message that curiousity and greed are no different and make so that the Chieftan was being mind controlled the whole time instead of just being a greedy old man
>>332605863
Anon, the thing about gungniris that it's all a giant Gungnir reference. The Highlander even has a similar world view to Guilio, except Highlander decides against nuking the shit out of the enemy.
>Like EO in the first place because it satisfies my OCD completionism
>Untold games require you to beat both Story and Classic for achievements.
Why this?
>>332606234
the worst part is that you can't even start someone as a gunner or highlander, they're class changes
>>332606423
At least EOU2 is better about thatSlightly. Makes more sense than a party full of fafnir knights, though.
>>332606234
>get stuck on the floor of the Claret Hollows
>open monster list to check what I am missing
>gap
>gap
>gap
>drop game
>eo2u
>start in story mode to not fuck up again
>mfw I learn
>>332598935
>>332607043
I consider this a large spoiler and feel bad for opening it.
>>332607043
what's with the kidney hole
>>332607043
>Himukai's little avatar
m-my heart
>>332607129
fafnir getsmortally wounded and dies after the encounter with the core
>>332608565
And then he magically ends up in armoroad, right?
Untold 3 when? Four was shit, 2 Untold was perfect.
>>332608565
>>332608703
None of that really happens
I hear a lot of praise for Untold 2, what makes it so good? Is it good even if I don't play the story?
>>332607043
Wish this carried into ng+
>>332612470
Its BETTER if you dont play the story. Getting stuck on party set up neuters the game.
>>332609025
>Four was shit
Them's fightin' words.
>>332612470
Nice dungeon layouts
Tons of varied bosses via quests, with new stuff not in II
Restaurant is surprisingly decent feature
Grimoires are handled awesomely, allowing you the freedom to customize classes to an outrageous degree
Biggest class selection in the series
Beasts are great
>>332612717
>not just making a shitload of characters and sticking to what you like.>not starting a new game with a scooby-doo style party
>>332612774
It was mediocre. It took everything from 3, and watered it down.
>inane overworld that boils down to fucking buffs
>3 floor stratums
>tiny "dungeons" that you finish in twenty minutes before you even get the hang of them. No fucking exploration.
>fifth stratum is one floor
Maybe they will learn and make V more like the Untold games? I hope so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KmcSXVyzzM
>>332605863
Yeah, EO1's story was way better.
That said, the final point never made sense
>ruin a town's economy
>get called heroes
Uhhh what
>>332613039
>5th stratum is one floor
This is how I know you're fucking retarded.
There was a single main floor, but the 5th in practice is the backsides of all the other strata you visited. THAT'S WHY THE WARPS SAY "FIGHT" INSTEAD OF ENTER, DUMDUM.
>>332613361
?
Whats your point?
I need help, what level is recommended for the Fire Demon fight?
What food?
All my gear is up to snuff, my party is level 26 all around, but the adds keep killing my momentum and when the first set of two show up my Bursts are always down except for Flavio because he's on poison duty for the boss.
>>332613039
City of Radiant Ruin is so fucking good. It's so sad and happy at the same time. Somehow I only realized how great the song was after I beat the game though.
>>332613017
What do you mean by Scooby Doo style party?
>>332613875
I managed to do it around the same level. Main concern on the fight is the attack debuff it uses, so best thing I did was get a troubadour's party wide attack up buff and use it the turn before it casts the debuff. You should be able to murder the Gels with Elemental attack + Link Order II after that. You might not even need the protector's force break at the end if you manage to escape the debuff and go crazy on the last set of Gels. Just make sure your Fire Wall is at a decent level.
>>332614407
A wolf and other classes/portraits that fit the theme?
>>332614650I-I'm on story mode, anon. And I don't have Link Order 2 either. I was putting points into Fire Circle.
Ariana's only got one point in link order, even.
>>332614753
I hope you're planning on using a Hound (with a wolf rather than a falcon) in EO5 and naming the character Shag and the wolf Scoob
>>332614818
Can't you still just get some grimoires from guild cards? I've seen a few around with link order II level 4. I'd imagine even Chloe would be able to dish out some good damage with her high tec while Flavio doesn't have an ailment sticking. Fafnir elemental slash followed by 2 Link order 2 and a flank shot might be enough to wipe out the gels.
>>332613039
What's the joke here? The best I can guess is that the map doesn't leave a green spot on the door when going through. Is that it?
>>332615275
There are degenerates who do not paint under their doors.
>>332615176
I really gotta start making more AOE capabilities, truth be told.
All I have is flank shot and the Waves.
If you have a link order 2 guild card I'd love to have a QR.
>>332615275
Correct, and a lot of people make a fuss if you don't fill it in.
>>332615360
There are quite a few of these around ongamefaqs, and I think the /vg/ general has a small session with a bunch of links with some of these too.
>>332615491
You can scan these on the restaurant just in case you don't know.
>>332615491
You're a saint.I still need to get the hot springs DLC, but I wanna crack my new3ds. What do?
>>332615852I dunno, all I can do to get CFW now is to use OoT but apparently I can only do it with some external dongle. Fuck me for updating so I could get the free DLC and Bravely Second demo.
This one is an official one by Atlus.
>>332616071
Well that was almost disappointingly easy with link order 2I have a major autistic thing where I gotta kill all the bosses in this one with Ignition Ray, just because it seems like a proper finishing move more than anything.
Is there a shitterproof strategy for the Ice Dragon in EOU? I know he does the mirror every 4 turns and tries to bind/sleep a turn before the ice attack, but I've slip up a couple times now and I just want him dead.
>>332614407
Literally the party I'm using right now
Name: Portrait, Class, Reason, Limitations
Fred: Protector 1A, Dark Hunter, sets up traps and bait, only uses binds and bait (no ailments)
Velma: Gunner4A, Alchemist, smart and formulaic but puts up a fight sometimes, only uses palm skills, almost always on front-row
Daphne: Sovereign 4B, Highlander (couldn't think of anything else that fit my reasons quite as well), helps out but gets herself in trouble; yet, still provides morale support, no overpowered shit like bloodlust or the delay/cross charge combo, also uses support skills like blood fortune and spirit shield
Shaggy: Gunner 1A, Survivalist, slippery and runs fast; also likes eating (in this case, items), no points in bows at all, max out speed up, natural instinct (always good at finding food), and efficiency, points in the "alertness" skill set to avoid ambush attacks and avoid battles, mostly back-row obviously
Scooby: Beast (whichever is the husky-wolf, I don't remember, fuck), also eats a lot but always there for the team and used as bait, single point in claws for the HP-bite attack (single point here as well), maxes out roar and auto-roar for those times he don't take shit, and some few points in defense skills like hit-taker, also maxes out natural instinct.
I haven't perfected this obviously, so I can't give exact numbers on how it will go, but it's been amusing so far.
>>332618794
Oh yeah, one last major rule of mine:
No grimoires and no food boosts besides Ingredients Up.
>>332612932
>nice dungeon layouts
The dungeon layouts were easily the worst in the series. Most of the time, they just make a bunch of open square rooms, stuff an FOE puzzle in it, and call it a day rather than making a labyrinth with twists and turns. What made it even worse is the over abundance of shortcuts, small floors, and floor jump completely ruining the tension of actual exploration.
>>332618794
>>332619152
Do you run from half the battles while listening to Scooby Doo theme?
>>332619316
No, but I should.
Everyone's level 16, about to enter ginunguinguigiungap
>>332618794
Well you might have heard my story before but I've actually had a multigenerational story for the non-U games involving majorly three adventurers.
>Reginald the medic is the long time guild leader as the ponytail medic from EO1
>Elizabeth is Reginald's Waifu and Teach, as well as the Protector
>Anzu is Bob ronin, and Reginald's charge after the events of first stratum
>In EO1, the guild meets up, including a Landshark who fucking dies after first stratum and a Hexer who follows them to Lagaard, shit happens, they save the day (sort of) and head off for adventure as Reggie and Liz become more and more romantically involved, getting married after EO1
>EO2, Reggie and Liz set off for another adventure along with Anzu and Hexer, and now a Warmagus in tow. They save the day proper, but Anzu decides to become immortal at the end of it.
>Liz gets preggers, and she and Reggie settle down for a bit.
>Meanwhile, Anzu sets off for another adventure with a royal cousin of Liz's, alongside her royal charge, a swashbuckler and ship captain, and a country girl he sweeps off her feet into a grand adventure.
>After Liz's daughter is born, Reggie wants to stay settled down, to raise said daughter.
>Liz decides exploration is more important for adventurers who never really had a home like they did, so she fucks off, never to be seen again.
>years later, Reggie's Daughter, Abigail (Bandanashark), and her dad team up with Anzu to find Elizabeth alongside the daughter of the pirate and a Runemaster who may or may not be related to the Landshark who fucking died like a chump
>turns out Liz is alive but now works for the empire
>big happy reunion and they live happily ever after
>Then Anzu and Abbey set off for Mystery Dungeon land
Just waiting to see what I can do with EO5
>>332620536
Ok.jpg
>>332620536
Not really my cup of tea, but glad you're having fun.
>play the demo to IV
>HOLY SHIT I LOVE DRAWING MAPS THIS GAME LOOKS AWESOME
>get III from a friend and start playing
>8 hours later
>I fucking hate maps
>I'm getting fucking nowhere
>FOE
>FOE
>tfw I can't into EO
>>332621545
III is pretty hard compared to IV. Maybe play full version of that first? There's automapping too if that's a problem.
>>332621843
You're saying I should get 4 then?
;_;
>>332621954
You can do whatever you want. I'm just saying that if you feel III is too hard, you could try an easier game. Orgit gud.
Though you should know, that the beginning in pretty much all games is pretty tough, especially in III. I started by doing some random battles and if I got atleast the same amount of money as resting in an inn costs, it was a good run.
>>332622543
I think I'm past the "beginning" in 3, my party is leveled up some, it just feels like I'm getting nowhere
>>332622771
Try going to the labyrinth at different time periods.
>>332622771
Well I don't know what's your exact problem, just keep going and avoid FOEs.
If you haven't already, you should make 5 farmers and teach them all combat study. That way they gain exp while your main party is fighting and after a while you use the farmers to go on gathering trips for money and materials.
