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Do you remember when "JRPGs" were just called "RPGs"?
>>332474980
Savage times
>>332474980
do you remember when most online MP games required you to put the IP address of the person you wanted to play with?
I remember multiplayer lobbies first came out for WC2 and It was fucking heaven
>>332475564
>do you remember when most online MP games required you to put the IP address of the person you wanted to play with?
Yes. One of the reasons why I never got into multiplayer.
You mean 1990? You mean, like, going on two decades now? Or maybe you just mean among your friends when you were 8 years old?
The distinction between the two has always been made in some form, if not always with the JRPG acronym, because they've always been radically different. Just because you and your friends didn't make the distinction between CRPG and JRPG when you were 8 years old doesn't mean nobody else did.
>>332474980
No.Post more megastructures
Remember when "campaign" was just called "single player"?
What about when "single player" was just called "Press Start"
I remember Press Start.
>>332474980
What, 1986 to ... '97? Sure. I remember.
>>332476004
''game over''
>>332474980
Remember when Adventure games weren't called RPGs?
I remember when my uncle made me give my cousin naked hugs in the basement.
29 year oldfag. The "jrpg", especially on /v/, started being used heavily after the launch of the Xbox 360 and mass effect. Prior to that, it was almost exclusively used to distinguish between pc rpgs (deus ex, planescape, other isometric rpgs) and the Japanese dominated console landscape.
By ME2, subsequently 2007, there was a massive uptick of nor only jrpgs vs wrpgs, but things like "weeaboo" being used to describe more than just neckbeard "JAPAN SUPERIOR NATION" to "IT'S REMOTELY JAPANESE OR ANIME."
It's only gotten worse since the brief western game dominance till about 2011 when Japan started getting it's shit back on track.
>>332475746
>You mean 1990? You mean, like, going on two decades now?
I'd say more like around 1990-2006 or so.
> Just because you and your friends didn't make the distinction between CRPG and JRPG when you were 8 years old doesn't mean nobody else did.
It isn't "me and my friends" since I basically never had any friends. I'm talking websites and the like which were big on JRPGs back in the late to early 00s. Gamefaqs and RPGamer and the like. You would go to these places and you wouldn't even know WRPGs existed
>>332476474
>ten millionth time hearing someone blather on about Ci'eth/L'cie/Fal'cie bullshit
>please kill me
Too bad the lore building made me never want to have anything to do with that world ever.
>>332476793
I don't know what you expected coming in. Did you not like it when FF8 blathered on about witches and SeeDs for the hundredth time?
Remember when only Rogue-likes were call rogue-likes?
>>332476561
>2011 when Japan started getting it's shit back on track.
Uhhh...
>>332476386
"RPG" is a stupid moniker anyways. You play a role in EVERY game. ALL games are technically "role-playing" games. Assigning arbitrary criteria to a special "RPG" genre doesn't change that.
The only time 'RPG' is accurate and should be used is when referring to pen and paper games. Otherwise it's just redundant.
Oldfag here 33 and I do remember when when an RPG was just that an RPG. No one ever said JRPG or Western RPG they would have been kicked in the nuts on the spot. Pre 2005 basically when games were actually good.
>>332476606
>you wouldn't even know WRPGs existed
Because they were called CRPGs back then and all consoles had were JRPGs
>>332476386
That first quote in the white box is fairly reasonable and spot on.
That second quote is full retard. I have no clue what he's trying to say. "RPG" doesn't have some special meaning. It just means you're playing a character. By a loose definition, a lot of cutscene-heavy modern rail shooters could be considered role-playing games.
I got into them during gen 5 in the late 90s when I was in middle school, and people said jrpg then.
Not sure what rock the people saying otherwise were living under.
>>332476907
No one liked that except for the handful of retards who think 8 is good.
>>332477084
But the weird thing is, consoles DID have western RPGs back then. They just weren't that popular. Games like Eye of the Beholder and Dungeon Master for SNES, Might and Magic: Gates to Another World for Genesis and some of the Ultima games which occasionally got console ports.
Do you remember when "anime" was just called "cartoons"?
>>332477758
No.
>>332477758
I remember when it was called japanimation.
I remember when anime was called Chinese cartoons for literal children.
It was/is every day.
Enjoy the past, /v/. It still lives on in some places
http://web.archive.org/web/20010217153525/http://www.rpgamer.com/rpguru/stom/as120999.html
>I couldn't resist tackling the follow-up letter of yesterday's Square or Contrail question, mainly because there is a huge issue when comparing the two companies. Contrail has two notable RPGs to their name, while Square has countless RPGs on their track record. Square, along with Enix, pretty much invented the formula that almost all RPGs have used in some form or other since the beginning of console RPGs themselves.
>>332478114
Only baby boomers or older generations called anime Chinese cartoons. Because they knew they were from Asia and when the average American at that time thought of Asia it was mostly China.
>>332477480
The hate for 8 got overblown just because it wasn't 7 again
>>332475770
>>332480282
That's a man, not a megastructure
>>332474980
When would that have been? JRPGs were never the original role-playing video games.
>>332480360
>When would that have been?
1990-2006
>JRPGs were never the original role-playing video games.
Doesn't matter since they were all the console kids during the 90s knew as RPGs
>>332480674
Except for the fact that isn't true.
There were plenty of wrpgs on the NES/SNES.
>>332481015
Somehow they weren't that popular or most kids were not aware they were made in the west--or never bothered to make a distinction. Kids usually don't think about such things. They just play what they have fun with or what looks good to them.
>>332481015
Who /drakken/ here?
JRPGs were always designated as something different. Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy were light role playing games, because they simplified all of the memorization from dungeon crawlers into simple menu commands, and had over-the-head style dungeons where you couldn't easily get lost.
They were always meant to be a less stressful pick-up game in comparison to running Ultima or something where you wanted to have pen and paper next to you as you played.
http://insomnia.ac/commentary/on_role-playing_games/
Posting some old bait
>>332481746
>light role playing games
No one in the west ever called FF or DQ a "light" role playing game. Japan sure.
>>332477041
You just sort of answered your quandary though, the game after RP came as a result of trying to imply this was a virtual version of that sort of thing. Pen and paper were no longer involved so P&PG wouldn't hold, subsequently while a general term became even more specific yet generalized it stuck because of the roots of the genre.
I agree it's superfluous tho.
>>332478134
>Square, along with Enix, pretty much invented the formula that almost all RPGs have used in some form or other since the beginning of console RPGs themselves.
There's a lot about this I take issue.
>>332482331
so west called them jRPGs. doesn't change the idea that they were labeled differently from the very start.
>>332477719
Most of the console ports of Ultima games actually did get turned into JRPGs though. If not outright, neutered and fucked with to the point of being such like 7. IIRC there were only one or two actual more-or-less-true ports among the whole mess.
>>332484098
No one in the west called them JRPGs until western RPGs actually started reaching mainstream audiences with the introduction of console versions of games like Oblivion, Mass Effect, etc
>>332484372
I remember having a conversation with someone about whether or not Link's Awakening was an RPG or not,so the ZELDA IS AN RPG meme has been around for at LEAST that long,and even then people were saying, "Well obviously it's not a JRPG like Final Fantasy, but..."
>>332478134
>Square invented the RPG formula
kek
>>332484847
What year? And I mean why would Zelda not be a JRPG if FF was? Both are Japanese
>>332474980
Any time someone calls it a JRPG or says Japanimation I want to punch their fucking teeth in
>>332485415
Had to be like 94 or 95 right? LInk's Awakening was in 93?
thats the point anon, there's a distinction between the gameplay of a jrpg and other rpgs.
>>332485415
Back then games like Zelda weren't thought of as rpgs at all.
They were called Adventure games.
>>332485528
autistic weeb on the loose
when will the police step in? can sephiropth's school shooting be prevented?
>>332487172
I really doubt the term JRPG existed in 1994 or 1995.
And the thing is, it depends on who you're asking. Some will say a JRPG is just an RPG made in Japan. In that case there is no difference between a Zelda which he agrees is an RPG and a JRPG. If he does not agree it's an RPG then that is another matter
>>332487570
Action Adventure was the term I was familiar with for Zelda
>>332487739
These are the types of people who made it "uncool" to like Japanese games.
>>332476561
THIS
mass effect 2 started all the JRPG vs WRPG bullshit
>>332489347
oh boy he's sharpening his katana, time to hide everybody!
It's just like others have said. Western RPGs just weren't a big deal during the 90s and early 2000s. Games labeled as RPGs were almost always Japanese. Magazines would also review the games differently. It would be more "this game has weird monsters and lots of creepy places to explore" whereas reviews now focus a lot on art style as though a game being Japanese is something that people need to be warned about.
>>332490296
Just ignoring all the infinity engine games are we?
>>332490296
>Western RPGs just weren't a big deal during the 90s and early 2000s.
said the console babby
Remember when we used to wrpg v jrpg shit post. Or even moba shitposting. It's just not as fun anymore. Can't even console flamewar as they all kinda suck.
>>332490572
yeaaaah, the 360/ps3/wii had merits that could be defended. But I can't shill any of these new consoles whole heartedly like I use to.
>>332490450
Can you compare their success to the success of JRPGs from around that time?
>>332491161
I dunno, how do you measure success?
