Did anyone want to play this game?
Found out form the Valkyrie Profile thread earlier and I know I will be disappointed.The flat characters+perspective background looks so fucked up.
For those who didn't know you can download a prototype at the fundraiser site.
DDL for Windows: http://www.labzerogames.com/indivisible-prototype_win.zip
>>332469216
>prototype
>>332469216
Who cares, the porn has been great.
I mean look at this in comparison, on the PS1!
>>332469630
I miss tri-ace.
It's in development and won't come out until 2018 at the earliest.
>>332469343
what would you call it then?
>>332469471
>>332469849
A demo, promo, or alpha. Prototypes are inventions + proof of concepts. There is only one prototype of a thing. The term doesn't apply to digital media.
>>332470036
Why wouldn't video games have software prototyping
>>332470036
>Prototypes are inventions + proof of concepts.
It's almost like that's exactly what the Indivisible PROTOTYPE is and that's why it's called a prototype!
>The term doesn't apply to digital media.
You're a retard.
>>332469728
they're still around, SO5 looks like it might be the best game since 2
>>332470304
>>332470335
By strict definition you're not downloading a prototype. You're downloading a copy. If software is copied and distributed digitally it's effectively already in the mass production phase of development even if the previous phases of development aren't complete.
As I said, the term does not apply to digital media because they are not physical goods.
>>332470576
>If software is copied and distributed digitally it's effectively already in the mass production phase of development
>software's phase of development is dependant on its availability rather than the properly working, finishes amount of features and content
>>332469216
>>332469630
You mean a prototype made in three months doesn't look as good as a complete game? I'm shocked.
>>332470576
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_prototyping
Pay special attention to the section "Outline of the prototyping process"
You have no fucking clue what you're talking about
>>332470836
>>332470938
I'm just pointing out that there are far more accurate, appropriate, and industry specific words to describe the exact thing OP is talking about. Nobody calls something copied literally tens of times a prototype.
This sub was better when there weren't so many fucking trolls
>>332469216
>>332469630
Anime-inspired western style always look like shit.
>>332471257
Tell me about it.
>>332471106
well, im just pointing out that you just got BTFO.
dumb faggot.
>>332471467
Hey, man. You're free to do what you want. If you call software a prototype people are going to look at you like you're retarded. Unless it's one of a kind it's not a prototype. Something you copied is not a prototype.
>>332471595
>Something you copied is not a prototype.
Can I get a source on that? You're throwing it around an awful lot after getting dumpstered.
>>332471796
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/prototype
: an original model on which something is patterned : archetype
: an individual that exhibits the essential features of a later type
: a standard or typical example
: a first full-scale and usually functional form of a new type or design of a construction (as an airplane)
Well this thread went to shit real fucking quick
Thread theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixnCcRbxIvM
Real thread them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFH_sLohbRQ
>>332472002
that says nothing about copies of software not being prototypes. Learn about software prototyping and try not to embarrass yourself by being a contrarian dumbass in the future.
>>332469216
>>332469630
Better than this comparison on the SNES
>>332472369
It can't be a prototype if it's software though
>>332472002
>>332471796
Get thee hence.
Oh hey its that game!
>Funding Failed so hard they had to extend it by about a month more than normal
>Original vision was expensive! 1.5 million dollars was just for the down payment, we're hoping this shady company kicks in the rest!
>oh but in order to get funded we needed to add 50% more content, in the form of special fan characters from all your favorite indie games!
>dont worry, this wont affect the development! Our original vision wont be ruined by a mexican wrestler or skateboarding radical dinosaur. Its also incredibly easy to make new characters, dont worry that we didnt make 50% extra money for 50% extra content
>wait the whole reason we asked for 1.5 million was because shit's expensive to make? I never said that!
>>332472421
I'm aware that software can technically have a prototype. What I have trouble with is people thinking they're downloading a prototype. You can't distribute a prototype. There is only one. Calling something like this alpha or beta version of a game a prototype is a poor choice of words. You MIGHT be downloading a copy of a prototype, but as you can clearly see a copy of a prototype is not a prototype.
>>332469216
>Found out form
>form
>or
Dude what the fuck? Time to derail this fucking thread because of your incorrect spelling. Also, you can't just start a sentence with "Found," you can't start sentences however the fuck you want. What do you think this is? Whatever-you-want: The website? Go back to fucking school.
>>332472651
The extended month is available for every project, and only if they made it a certain amount. This wasn't some sort of special case.
The fan characters won't even be available the first playthrough.
>>332473020
>the first playthrough
>he thinks the game will get made with the promised content
>or be interesting enough for you to beat it once
>>332472712
You're treating software prototypes under the same constraints as physical prototypes for some reason. Learn about software prototyping and try not to embarrass yourself by being a contrarian dumbass in the future.
>>332469216
I'm happy they got their animated opening goal. I'm guessing their mystery animated studio is Trigger.
I wish they had advertised a little more that the campaign is still open for stretch goals. They shouldn't have put multiple endings so far at the end, after full VO. That should have been one of the first goals.
>>332473241
I showed you the definition of the word. If you'd like to provide some equally credible evidence to support your ideas you're more than welcome to. Until then everybody should assume that Webster knows more about the use and etymology of words than some schmuck on the Internet.
>>332472489
That shit looks way better than the official art.
>>332470920
That hideous image is from the front page of their fundraiser. They're using it to fund the game!
Anyway I tried the prototype and I couldn't even make it to the end because it would stop recognizing my keystrokes every few minutes. Didn't expect quality, but I thought it would at least work.
>>332469216
I liked the art style, and they mentioned that the backgrounds were going to get overhauled for the real game. I wouldn't mind if it went 2D, but as it stands it's a bit like Ori and the blind forest, which has lots of depths thanks to liberal use of 3D layers.
>>332473157
They eventually delivered all their Skullgirl IGG stuff.
>>332472489
>anja on top
>anja's health bar not on top
for what purpose
>>332469216
I think it could eventually be good but it's going to be a shit load of work.
This thing looks like it's a mess of different gameplay styles. metroidvania,platformer,turn based combat, fighting game style combos, rpg stats,huge roster of characters, etc. getting all that shit to work together and feel good is going to be a nightmare.
They probably should have just done a simpler action/platformer because that stuff already felt pretty good in the prototype.
>>332471106
If it's software distributed to non-team member stakeholders of a project for the intention of proving the project concept and garnering support/funding for the project then it's a prototype, it doesn't matter how many stakeholders there are.
You think companies will go out of their way to get every single stakeholder in a conference room when a potential solution provider is going to demonstrate their prototype?
>>332473361
Software development is still in its infancy and is something constantly changing. I'm sorry dictionaries still haven't adopted the definition that software developers use. Dictionaries don't mention that prototypes can have several iterations either but they clearly do in the software industry. Dictionary definitions aren't always reflective of reality.
>>332473832
I paid no attention to the shitstorm but I could swear this game was an action platformer by the first screens and that looked fine. You're telling me they're mashing all those genres together? That's gonna be a whole lot of work and real creativity.
>>332469630
This isn't really a fair comparison. Tri-Ace was in a league of their own from the beginning with their visual quality and art direction and Indivisible's still trying to find its footing.
goddamn I miss the Tri-Ace that pushed systems to their limits and had some god-tier sprite animation and coordination with 3D environments. they really lost their way at some point.
>>332469968
>>332470112
More like these?
>>332473948
>then it's a prototype
Nope. It's being distributed to everyone; not just stakeholders.
>Software development is still in its infancy
Software development has been happening longer than you've been alive. That is enough time to add a definition to a dictionary if it's necessary. English scholars and professionals never deemed it necessary to make one word more complicated when there are several completely new words that describe the concept much more accurately.
>>332474129
Pretty much all of that elements were present in VP, Mike Z has a huge boner for that game so he wanted to do his own vision of the "genre".
>>332474320
>It's being distributed to everyone; not just stakeholders.
Prototypes are delivered to end-users too, dumbass. If only you spent more time learning about the process instead of saving ebin reaction images.
STOP ARGUING AND POST MORE TRI ACE
YOU
YOU
YOU DOUBLE NIGGERS
>>332474186
download the game for PS1. You can play it on a PS1 or slim ps2 with the swap trick, or if you want to use an emulator, use mednafen.
I don't have many more gifs, but VP is truly beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv2rUPvp644&list=PL9236158258B9F94D
>>332469216
What killed it for me was making a Metroidvania style explorer with turn-based RPG battles.
That's just a massive gameplay disconnect.
>>332474592
Then why would you explicitly state that it's distributed to stakeholders under specific circumstances instead of just saying it's distributed arbitrarily?
Do you really not see how you're slipping down this slope? You're hell bent on changing the definition of a word that has had a rock solid meaning for hundreds of years simply because you don't want to use more industry specific terms?
Call it an alpha/beta or a demo, or even a promotional copy of the game because that's exactly what it is.
I really don't see why you're so hung up on this. All I did was point out that better words could be used. Doesn't make sense that you would take it so personally unless you were the one who made the decision to call it that.
>>332474883
I have the PSP VP version and I thoroughly enjoyed it. I want to restart again since I cut it off for school.
>>332475183
ah, I played the PSP version too. You will want to experience both versions. If you ask me, PS1 is still better. They cut out some really good illustrations and some animated cutscenes to fit in the modern CG ones.
>>332474819
>>332474186
Seems there is a good selection of screenshots and music for a many parts of the game on this site
http://www.taringa.net/posts/juegos/19233574/Un-RPG-que-hay-que-jugar-antes-de-morir-Valkyrie-Profile.html
>>332475183
>>332474883
If you have a slim ps2 with FCMB there is a homebrew that stops the drive for you and allows you to play copied PS1 games with no chance of damaging your system or disc. All you've got to do is block the lid open/close sensors.
>all this circlejerking over Valkyrie Profile
Come on, guys, it wasn't THAT good.
>>332475918
>>332475183
PSP version's the one I played as well, but the PS1 one's a bit better. Game really benefits from looking so crisp and running as originally intended, but the localization team did some great work making the menus a bit more convenient. Definitive version of the game for me.
Fuck this game. It's art style sucks, it's SJW af, and relies heavily on viral marketing.
>>332476074
I'm serious. The platforming was garbage, the story destroyed any pace the game might have had, and it's not like it was even a GOOD story.
>so this guy and his maid live a relatively-regular life together
>AND THEN VAMPIRE OUT OF FUCKING NOWHERE
>YO BITCH IS FKKIN DED M8 LMAO
The combat portion was OK, but just OK, and the music was pretty bad outside of a couple fight themes. I'd rather play Grandia instead, honestly.
>>332476569
So make a Grandia thread.
for anyone interested, this was from one of their indiegogo updates.
>We don't know yet if we can achieve this level of detail in our modularly-built levels, but it's our current target. Finalizing a style requires careful choices about scope and implementation.
this looks far better in every way, but we've all seen that mighty no. 9 concept art picture so for now I'll assume the visuals will be the same as the prototype.
>>332476657
I did.
http://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/325718756/
>>332475918
It honestly really wasn't. The time limit sucked balls. It didn't make things more challenging, it just put unnecessary pressure on the player. Whenever I had spare time, I was compelled to grind for fear that I may not have an opportunity to in the future.
>>332476569
Sounds like Jojo's missing one key ingredient. As you know, is being good.
![PuQMR9e[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/peihJCh.jpg "PuQMR9e[1].png")
>>332476514
I don't give two shits about this game but this is the first thing that came to mind when I saw that image.
>>332477324
NRFS still the best.
>>332470112
>To my side my noble Einherjar
Fuck I need to play through this again. And maybe suffer through VP2 just to say I did it.
The art is so fucking dope.
>>332469216
Is this still that build from last year?
>>332476514
>it's SJW af
>man, why don't SJW just do their own game!
>no stop doing your own game!
and for fuck sake, the game still has white characters if it bothers you that much.
>>332474176
but anon they're still around
it's called Team VP2 who also did SO3 and RoF
unless you're a spritefag
>>332477847
you make it sound like VP2 is bad
>"How nostalgic..."
>>332477847
I liked VP2 quite a lot. Very different than the first, but the fighting was fun and the soundtrack is Sakuraba's best work (unless you prefer VP1's). Amazing in surround too.
>>332478530
Is Lenneth the most tragic video game character?
>>332478601
even the 'happy' end pisses me off a little
>Lucian!?
>BEEEEEEEEEEEEEP
>>332470545
but SO3 came in PS2
>Fight Hrist in CoP
>"It's 'Valkyrie Profile', not 'Mortal Profile!' They went out of their way to slight me!"
>tfw they won't fix the shitty 3D environments
shit looks bland as fuck
like ducktales 3D or the new shantae
>>332479845
>i-i-it's just a beta
that they won't fix
like ducktales and the new shantae
>>332480095
I forgot, this is /v/ so of course no one here actually knows how game development works.
>>332480210
not even you anon
>>332480095
>>332480628
Yes, I also think bloodstained will keep the stock textures and models from the latest preview.
>>332470036
that is exactly what it is fucking idiot
it was made exclusively for showing off as a proof of concept
>>332481043
What he has might be a prototype. What you're downloading is most definitely not a prototype. It is a copy of a prototype which is not a prototype. Learning is fundamental.
>>332481123
wow you're a fucking idiot
it is a prototype because it matches all the definitions of one it being digital doesnt change that because copies of something digital and physical are completely different
you can go be retarded in your own home
>>332476514
>Wanting them to censor their works just for you.
Fuck off
>>332470545
SO5 looks like garbage so far, can't see it getting better.
>>332481353
but anon, everyone else in the world is using it wrong. why won't you believe him?
>>332476514
>calls a kamen rider ripoff batman
Really hope Indivisible doesn't go anywhere. Kill the indie scene oh god.
Am I a faggot for liking Lezard Valeth?
>>332481572
Even if Indivisible crashes and burns, the indie scene won't go anywhere.
Everyone hates MN9/Inafune but we still have kickstarters.
I want to play this game, I will make a team comprised of the most farkest characters in the game.
>>332477073
You always have a shit ton of time at the end of chapters, dipshit.
>>332476514
I'm positive Indivisible was the most viraled game on /v/, surpassing borderlands
>>332482218
CONGRATULATIONS! Now everyone knows you're new as all hell! How does it feel?
>>332482218
I never heard about it until the VP thread today.
Saw page.
"Hey guys we are making a Valkyrie Profile ripoff but without any valkryies, please give us a few million dollars."
lol how much do you think the budget of VP1 was? Can't buy that kind of talent!
>>332482325
Don't you ever reply to me again.
>>332482576
There was a thread up at 100% uptime, no matter how hard everyone shit on it, same threads with the same images were spammed.
VP is fine but it's not as amazing as everyone says. For one, it's easy as fuck, even on "hard" mode.
>>332482786
Oh boy, you dared criticize Valkyrie Profile. Now anonymous will get REALLY mad at you!
>No one talked about Valkyrie Profile beforw Indivisible
God damn I hate bandwagoners.
why is it called indivisible when i can still see it?
>>332469630
I think I'm playing wrong, I just firestorm everything.
>>332473459
after a few more kickstarters and paypal donations
>>332482925
Because being unable to separate something has nothing to do with whether or not you can see it.
>>332482917
This is me talking about Indivisible only because I always look at the Valkryie Profile threads.
Try logging in later at night.
>>332483056
Magic is strong but you want to get as many crystals as possible for Seraphic Gate. Comboing is more fun too.
>>332469216
>pretending to shillpost when the kickstarter already ened months ago
Lol now this is next level 4chaning
I honestly don't give a fuck about the game
I just want the delicious brown rule34
>>332483156
>a few more kickstarters
People keep saying that and it has never been true. Where does this come from?
>>332484581
Shitposting. Duh.
>>332482767
>Don't reply to me again
Why the fuck is this so prevalent recently
![abe[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Fv1m0xd.jpg "abe[1].jpg")
>>332484704
memes
>>332482107
If I'm playing the game for the first time, how would I know if that is always going to be the case for every succeeding chapter? I expect the difficulty of the games I play to ramp up as I progress so naturally I also expected that there would be more tasks given to the player in later chapters to make the time limit factor more challenging. It's just something that isn't communicated well to the player.
>>332485053
I honestly hope that's the answer
>>332484704
Some /my/ or /tv/ tripfag started demanding that people never reply to him again unless they're contributing to his discussion or his/the thread.
Also, the don't talk to me or my son ever again meme has caught on here recently.
>>332469216
The prototype was fine and the animations were mediocre, but will probably be better in the final release considering it was a prototype.
>>332484704
its a meme ya dip
Why does everyone keep saying the mystery studio is Trigger?
>>332485093
>>332485337
Does anyone else find it amusing that gaymers always fall for this "but it's just a demo, things will change in the FINAL version." shit? Name one time where this was true.
>>332486273
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRUJqrBVIM
>mfw people talk about Indivisible, and all I can think of is Valkyrie Profile
>Played it first on PS1, but only half-way through, because the second disk was part 1 in Japanese instead of part 2 in English
>Played it again years later on PSP Lenneth hardest difficulty, and never beat the extra end game dungeon
>Never played Silmeria on PS2 because I had stopped playing vidya during that period of my life
>Everywhere I look people want to gauge me on prices for it
>That fucking DS game no one remembers
>Valkyrie Profile is a dead series and will never have another game
Fuck it. All Indivisible does for me remind me of how much I'd rather just go and replay Valkyrie Profile. Time to dig out the old PSP from underneath the bed.
>>332476514
>>332487945
I'm emulating VP and its going good so far, chapter 6. God I hope it doesn't fuck me over at this point.
What's better, Umihara Kawase or Valkyrie Profile?
>>332487945
You say that like they don't care about Valkyrie Profile, they've been sitting on the game idea for a while.
> zoom
> enhance
>>332488101
and Knuckles
