What is the absolute best Castlevania game?
aria of sorrow
prove me wrong
Rondo of Blood
>>332468286
>Rondo of Blood
this and PoR
everything else is objectivly bad
Rondo of Blood or Circle of the Moon
>he doesn't likeSoTNAlucard > Juste > Everyone else
The not shitty version of Dracula-X that costs the skin of your teeths.
Harmony of Despair
/thread
>>332468065
Rondo of Blood by a long shot. It was the first one I ever played, and all the rest after it felt like shit.
>>332468523
>Circle of the Meme
>good
>>332468065
I had the most fun with Order of Ecclesia, Aria/Dawn of Sorrow and Dracula X Chronicles, but honestly I found nearly every GBA/NDS-vania and SotN enjoyable.
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>>332468689
>Order of Ecclesia
>>332468065
aria of sorrow
shout out to simons quest, sotn, dawn of sorrow, and order of ecclasia
Best classicvania: Rondo of Blood
Best metroidvania: Dawn of sorrow.
>>332468065
Dracula's Curse, Super Castlevania IV and Symphony of the Night.
These are the best. Don't pay attention to any other faggots.
What's with the recent "symphony of the night is shit" meme recently going around?
Second best is Rondo but honestly, there are a lot of good ones. I can't think of another series with a better track record of good to bad titles.
>>332468802
>order of ecclasia
see
>>332468795
Anybody got that Metroidvania tier list image?
PoR in richter mode.
>>332468673
I'm glad you agree.
>>332469026
No, but I'm still holding onto this bit of truth.
>>332469292
shiiiiieeet
>>332468370
>EVERYTHING
>posts the worst ds game
W E W
>>332469398
>worst ds game
that be OoE killed the seris
elevator music to boot
>not a single katana in PoR
I'm still mad.
>>332470747
Why the fuck would you want those shitty weapons?
>>332468065
SC4. I still listen to that soundtrack at work.
>>332470794
Chaining attacks let them outdamage even Claimh Solais on like two targets in the entire game that were kind enough to expose themselves to katana's shitty damage box.
Really wish DoS wasn't piss easy, so all those mechanics the game had could be put to some use.
Sotn is literally one of the best video games ever made, a 40/40. No other castlevanias come close (well aria is pretty gud)
Akumajou Densetsu.
Bloodlines for the classic.
Portrait of Ruin for the metroidvanias.
But with few exceptions they're all very good and worth playing.
WHAT IS A MAN?
CV1 and Rondo tied for best Classicvania
SotN is best Metroidvania
GBA games are alright
DS games are trash
For the handheld games it's widely accepted that:
DS: PoR > DoS > OoE
GBA: HoD > AoS > CotM
>>332471731
You're trash.
>>332471879
DS babby pls
Wasn't there an online multi only one? Was it good?
ORDER OF ECCLESIA HARD MODE.
ALL OTHER ANSWERS AREperfectly valid, but I feel that OoE hard mode is the perfect mix of classic obstacle course style level design and rpg mechanics.
>>332468065
Lords of shadow 1 and circle of the moon are good. aria of sorrow is good too, never played the others tho
>>332471824
I don't even know why people like OoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFVbz_b72Aw&list=PLu_f2AnvQFcC3xunsoHyoDfGzR4-ND9oR&index=2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCw1NidkIzQ&index=37&list=PLu_f2AnvQFcC3xunsoHyoDfGzR4-ND9oR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHqp3PRR_vg&index=11&list=PLu_f2AnvQFcC3xunsoHyoDfGzR4-ND9oR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od6dEtkaAW0
woah. just kill my franchise
>>332472267
>m-muh Shanoa
Fuck off, OoE is the worst Castlevania game by a significant margin. There used to be a great chart explaining it.
>>332472207
Harmony of Despair.
I hear it was okay. Though nowadays all you'll see is Soma players.
>>332472409
Your opinion and tastes couldn't possibly be more wrong
>There used to be a great chart explaining it.
Yeah, you're an idiot.
>>332472267
OoE barely has "RPG mechanics."
>>332468065
>>332472521
>Armor with stats
>Sidequests with rewards
>Buff skills
>glyphs that level up
castlevania 1 or aria of sorrow
>>332469292
Bloodlines was the best, though.
>>332472671
None of those are directly related to RPGs you retard.
Elemental proficiency doesn't matter since you need an absurd amount to make any meaningful difference.
>>332469819
is this possible? can I agree with /v/ on one thing?
>>332473002
>None of those are directly related to RPGs you retard.
Yes they are. Level based progression systems count as RPG mechanics. Same with stat systems.
>>332473071
No, because most of the time in Castlevania threads, there's a huge amount of praise for it. Because it's legitimately great.
I bet you've never even touched hard mode. It has entirely different and harder enemy placements and layouts. It makes the game completely different and ups the challenge in a huge way.
>mfw IGA admitted that half of the OST of OoE got corrupted but they were too time constrained to fix it and konami said the music was shippable.
>mfw you will never hear the real ost, only that garbled mess and a few select tracks that didn't corrupt
>>332473074
>RPGs invented stats
You are retarded, even more so for not realizing your level doesn't do shit in OoE.
>>332473318
At least put "RPG elements" into a search engine before showing everyone how underage your are.
>>332473426
PROTIP: Every game has stats. Whether or not their visible or not is irrelevant.
>>332473247
That's heartbreaking. At least they managed to fill the game with a traditional amount of content. IT would've sucked if it had corrupted music AND less content than DoS or PoR
1, anyone who says otherwise is a massive pleb. Nothing comes close in level design or GOOD difficulty. 3 would beat it but it has some genuinely cheap parts that greatly damage the experience.
Rondo is decent but can't compare.
4 is not good and is basically a classic castlevania game for people who don't like classic castlevania games
Bloodlines isn't too great either
Rebrith is the worst of the bunch, absolutely horrendous stage design, the main rule of thumb in that game seems to be 'put enemies in areas that the player cannot attack because we forgot there are almost no subweapons in the game to deal with them'
Seriously though 1 is miles ahead of everything else, I don't understand why this is even a debate to this day.
>>332473551
Not every game has gradually progressing stats or customizable equipment, and you may be able to figure out what those elements have always been called when they would find themselves in non-RPG vidya.
>>332473247
>mfw you will never hear the real ost, only that garbled mess and a few select tracks that didn't corrupt
Garbled?
>>332473746
>Seriously though 1 is miles ahead of everything else, I don't understand why this is even a debate to this day.
it isn't a debate, only you say that, you are objectively wrong
>>332473247
>>332473591
That's really unfortunate, some of Yamane's best work is on OoE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TI5D0dHC7OY
>>332471824
Is this bait, what the fuck
Did you get it backwards?
>>332473915
alot of those tracks, are legit half of the audio.
>>332473895
The stat progression in OoE is so minor it might as well not exist at all. There's very little difference between a level 1 cap run and a regular run.
>customizable equipment
This isn't unique to RPGs, retard.
>>332473216
>huge amount of praise
>legitimately great
Keep repeating it it may come true soon.
>hard mode
>has entirely different and harder enemy placements and layouts
Really? I thought I'd call it hard because of easiness.
Just to keep you quiet: OoE is more about mastering glyphs and combine them then later you receive the exact same glyph but powerful, for what? to keep using it until the next stronger one comes. I can say it's a game mechanic made to keep you playing longer, in no other Castlevania that's mean to be praised you see this.
>>332474035
Ohh that's what you mean then.
That's sad to hear I actually liked OoE's OST a lot.
>>332474172
>I actually liked OoE's OST a lot.
Simon's Quest
>>332474081
They are still "RPG elements", whether you want to do your research before saying something retarded or not.
>>332474331
blind run, no joke, fun as fuck.
my stepdad and I loved that game back in the day
hours of fucking problem solving
>>332473936
Well give it a bit more substance than that, I can rhyme off major flaws about every other game, but I can't do so about 1.
I'm also not comparing it to SOTN and after because I don't really feel like it's a fair comparison to make.
Nothing in 1 is cheap, if you die in 1 it's your fault. The game doesn't throw any curveballs or trick you, it's a straight up solid platformer from start to finish that made its own style of gameplay that still has dedicated fans today (Even if that style was ignored somewhat in 4). It also obviously had really good music and atmosphere as you'd expect.
The only flaw I can really think of are holy water 'glitch' abuse, which is something you can choose to not do and probably wouldn't discover yourself anyway, and I guess it is quite short, though given the difficulty I think that's appropriate.
Every other game has actual flaws that are not nitpicks, for example Rondo has some really poor stages and a branching path system that is unintuitive and makes little sense, some very bad levels (Stage 3 and 5) and the 'crash' mechanic was useless.
I'm not saying they're bad, I think Rondo is really good, but I genuinely struggle to understand how people can claim 1 is worse when from my viewpoint all the other games are just 1 with some experimental mechanics that usually don't work well.
>>332472371
How dare you...
>>332473951
Fuck you for posting that. It hurts to hear some of the best tracks now knowing they all might have been this good.
>>332474094
>Keep repeating it it may come true soon.
You're only showing how out of touch and or new you are. I was browing here when this game fuckign RELEASED and have been in related threads evwr since. It's well liked here and most people rate it along with AoS or SotN as the best Igavania titles
> I thought I'd call it hard because of easiness.
No, you thought it would just be a generic change to enemy HP and damage stats. Instead, it's a full overhaul of the whole game that ups the challenge to an absurd degree.
>OoE is more about mastering glyphs
You're cute.
> then later you receive the exact same glyph but powerful, for what?
So you can upgrade. The weapon glyphs worked more like traditional weapons from previous Igavania titles where you just slowly upgrade the same basic thing until it's really strong. The other glyphs are what provided the depth. Magic that worked like subweapons to help deal with enemies? Fun transformations with special power? Buffs to abuse for your needs?
>>332474243
What else can I say? Granted it's mostly the tracks you hear in Dracula's castle. But some of the field ones were decent too.
>>332474546
>Well give it a bit more substance than that
stopped reading there, back to your cave
/vr/
>>332472409
Good thing you have a canned argument this time, otherwise you might have to actually think and argue a position!
Loved this one. Best gameplay of the handheld ones, without the clunkiness of Circle or the gimmicks and bullshit of the DS games.
>>332475321
Souls were bullshit, and some parts of OoE dragged on for longer than they should've, but what's your beef with PoR?
>>332473746
>All of this old cranky faggotry in one post
Seriously, go back to the cancer that is /vr/. /v/ is already pretty fucked up without you faggots.
>>332468065
Juste (yoost) is best belmont
>>332474476
I was 8 and learning English as a 2nd language. This game confused me as much as I am Error from Zelda 2.
>>332475478
More importantly, what's your gripe with souls? DoS had a few problems, but its equipment system was pretty damn great.
CV1 > Akumajou Densetsu > Rondo of Blood = Bloodlines > 68K >>> SC4
>>332475321
>Best gameplay of the handheld ones
JUST.But seriously what do you see in it? I though it was pretty average.
>>332468887
Mega man
Shinobi
Ninja gaiden
>>332468846
>Best metroidvania: the version of AoS with everything made worse
>>332475870
Different anon but Juste's speed was fucking amazing and I wish other Castlevanias let you run around Dracula's castle at the speed of sound from the get go. But honestly it was an alright game, kinda safe castlevania
>>332475831
Oh, sure, souls were cool once you had 'em. But the grind involved was... dumb.
>favourite Classicvania
>favourite IGAvania
>favourite 3Dvania
>favourite non-Metroid or Castlevania Metroidvania
>favourite Belmont
>favourite Yamane OST
>favourite non-Yamane OST
>favourite Kojima design
Out with it, /v/.
>>332469292
>SCIV: only remembered by oldfags
What? everybody sucks IV's dick. Bloodlines status is true though.
>>332476230
Yo, you got that in a bigger resolution? That is a FANTASTIC wallpaper.
>>332476120
Not that anon but I just wanted to let you know that all three of those series make me erect.
>>332474391
And OoE barely has them, which is my original point, retard.
>>332476383
>favourite Kojima design
This one is easy.
>>332476383
Rondo of Blood
Symphony of the Night
Legacy of Darkness(Lament of Innocence a close 2nd because FUCK YOU AND THE NIGHT)
No idea. SotN is my favorite, so I don't think too hard about the other games. Probably some indie game I've played like Cave Story or something, but I don't think CS counts.
Richter
The one that plays in the library in Aria
Old Sinking Sanctuary
The new Richter from Dracula X Chronicles
>harmony of dissonance
>If you dashkick in the air, you divekick instead
It had me flying into things for 2 hours straight, thats just amazing
>>332472371
>not even posting best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrihCL78Up0
>>332469292
Bloodlines was fucking gold, best theme coming thru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0
>>332476537
Here anon
Don't mind me, just posting the absolute BEST OST in the whole series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqyoTvZ5cOE
WHAT IS A MAN
>>332476929
Thanks friend!
>>332476383
>favourite Classicvania
Rondo of Blood
>favourite IGAvania
Aria of Sorrow
>favourite 3Dvania
Lament of Innocence
>favourite non-Metroid or Castlevania Metroidvania
Ori and the Blind Forest,though I'm a few hours into Salt and Sanctuary and really enjoying that
>favourite Belmont
Richter
>favourite Yamane OST
Symphony of the Night
>favourite non-Yamane OST
Rondo of Blood
>favourite Kojima design
I liked Graham, particularly his creepy as hell second form
>>332477007
Np anon
>>332476967
>Best OST
>Doesn't have Sinking Old Sanctuary or Divine Bloodlines/Omens
Newfags get out the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXIVEJAIWUk
>>332471678
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS
I unironically liked this game. It's powerstone except in a better series.
I still wish to see it in an EVO. I want to see what high-level play looks like.
>>332477729
He must be talking about Castlevania Judgement.
>>332471312
Came to post this, pretty much. I think SotN is probably my favorite video game ever. I think it's probably the best 2d game of all time. Everything about it is great, gameplay, art, design, well, except the voice acting.
![250px-Castlevania_Judgement[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/fYdfa91.jpg "250px-Castlevania_Judgement[1].jpg")
>>332477782
I was.
>>332477729
Forgot picture.
>>332477794
>except the voice acting
>impyling Scott McCulloch isn't the voice of a generation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4jjQ2L6aBg
>>332477794
The voice acting couldn't be sillier. It's the only flaw on an otherwise perfect game. The only thing to actually criticize about SotN it's how easy it is to beat it.
Best Yamane OST is Curse of Darkness, much as I like SotN. Shame about the rest of the game though.
>>332476383
>favourite Classicvania
Rondo of Blood
>favourite IGAvania
SotN
>favourite 3Dvania
Lament of FUCK YOU AND THE NIGHT
>favourite non-Metroid or Castlevania MetroidvaniaKurovadis
>favourite Belmont
>>332476824
>favourite Yamane OST
SotN
>favourite non-Yamane OST
Bloodlines
>favourite Kojima design
This motherfucker right here
>>332476383
>favourite Classicvania
IV
>favourite IGAvania
OoE
>favourite 3Dvania
Lords of Shadow
>favourite non-Metroid or Castlevania MetroidvaniaDark Souls
>favourite Belmont
Julius
>favourite Yamane OST
Portrait of Ruin
>favourite non-Yamane OST
IV
>favourite Kojima design
Juste is a pretty slick fella.
>>332478196
>favourite non-Yamane OST
>Bloodlines
?
>>332478248
>Playing DSII for the first time
>Somehow luck out with the birds nest at the beginning and get the crazy overpowered Old Whip
The only bad thing was that whips durability.
>>332478353
fuck, I realized that's Yamane's work too. Castlevania III OST is it then.
>>332478196
Bloodlines was actually Yamane's first work on the series!
>>332477950
>Learning some of the SoTN VA's voiced some obscure Japan only Satrun game meant to teach Japs English
Interesting.
>>332475868
Good taste
>>332468065
classicvania - 1
metroidvania - Aria
i really wish a third Soma game would have gotten made. he deserved one more story that dwelt more heavily on his destiny than Dawn.
>>332478584
If you're interested in that, how about an interview with Alucard's original voice actor?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYtl9JTAapU
>>332478584
>Look at those monsterrrrrrrs!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLZ8KMe6uUc&
>>332478421
Dark Souls 2 has legitimate Castlevania run support
>Throwing knives deal a valid amount of damage throughout most of the game
>There's literal holy water to throw aroundand other throwing urns are reasonable viable too
>Old Whip can be a starting weapon
>Spotted Whip exists
