The Binding of Isaac story and lore are way too pretentiously convoluted than they need to be.
>>332462698
Game doesn't even have a story, just shut the fuck up
>>332462793
What makes you say that?
>>332463016
IT literally copy pasted bible passages, and used it as a metaphor, rather than a story.
>>332463707
Where in the bible passages does a child escape his deranged mom into the basement?
>>332462698
Zone of the enders 2
>needs a pc port and sequel
Tales of Zestiria
These problems are in most jrpgs but heavily apply here
>equipment shouldn't have all these useless statistics webs
>your ability to kill monsters shouldn't be based on your level
>what's the point of savepoints when I can quicksave anywhere on the map?
>fixed camera during battles
The Walking Dead
>make your choices actually branch out and affect the ending
>>332462698
my game's community is absolute cancer from overexposure
>>332465347
Dark Souls?
>>332462793
Spot the child
>>332462698
The Megaman Battle Network games were all just rehashes with different gimmicks.
Will never get the third part.
>>332465347
Undertale?
>>332462698
>game has very basic and minimalistic story and lore
>autistic fanbase connects the dots to create some super deep motifs the creators didn't even know existed
>game hailed as masterpiece
Morrowind
*miss*
I
*miss*
Really
*miss*
Hate
*miss*
The
*miss*
Combat
*miss*
>>332465921
Sounds kinda life fnaf but I doubt that's it
![Free-Download-Ninja-Gaiden-2-Wallpaper-HD[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XWHMMUz.jpg "Free-Download-Ninja-Gaiden-2-Wallpaper-HD[1].jpg")
The 12 fps staircase
Combat is ass even by old-school CRPG standards.
>>332462793
>"Isaac and his mother-"
Just because we skip that every time doesn't mean that story exposition cutscene doesn't exist you mong.
![Half-Life_2_cover[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nj1AADw.jpg "Half-Life_2_cover[1].jpg")
Parts of the game that were impressive at the time are no longer fun.
For example, the see-saw puzzles that were pretty incredible at release are tedious now.
>>332465921
dank souls
Undertale has pretty bad gameplay
>>332462698
Grandia is too slow. The voice acting is bad and you can't skip it, the special moves are cool once or twice but take too fucking long (and you rely on them), but combined with the voice actor having to SAY some kind of pre-attack line, then the attack, then the damage comes up just makes the game artificially longer.
more games should be like Disgaea where you can toggle off things, it's a godsend for replaying
Chrono Trigger will never get a proper sequel.
Now I feel bad. Thanks asshole.
>>332462698
>I love a shitty flash game that flat out copied Zelda 1 but with procedurally generated dungeons instead of being hand crafted
>>332466650
Dark souls doesn't have minimalistic lore, it's all over the fucking place. Every NPC conversation, cutscene, and item description has lore.
Chrono Cross will never be treated as its own game, instead living in the shadow of Trigger and getting shit on for it.
It's so unfair.
>>332466892
It's a fun game.
Its a hallway simulator for the first 20ish hourseven though I don't dislike that at all
>>332466714
Fuck Chrono Trigger, the only reason you guys like it is because it was the first JRPG you played. Battles are slow, you don't have many options, dual techs were a cool idea but they're too limited, on-screen enemies gimmick would be okay if it combat was FUN instead of tedious. If you're going to spend so much time in battle, you shouldn't dread it.
The game itself is the perfect 1v1 FPS.
No first party matchmaking with ranks / ladders.
There isn't a SINGLE arena FPS with proper match making.Why even live.
>Tales of Vesperia
Antagonist was garbage
The game is buggy and unstable as fuck and always freezes or crashes.
The mechanics are deep, but by god is the UI awkward.
>>332466902
No it's all extrapolated and fake because I didn't bother to pay attention
E.Y.E. Divine Cybermancy is buggy and unpolished as fuck.
Same goes for S.T.A.L.K.E.R., I guess.
>>332467068
If you have a problem with Chrono Trigger's combat, you have a problem with every turn based JRPG.
>>332462698
Banjo Kazooie: Framerate
>>332467048
The only game I can think of that fits that description is Final Fantasy XIII (or whichever the first one with Lightning was). Are you implying you liked that game? Why?Genuinely curious, by the time I finished the 20 hours of hallways, I hated the game too much for it to redeem itself.
>>332465178
>Tales of Zestiria
Why did you love it? I'm curious because /v/ says it's bad.
Persona 4
End of the world was happening and the characters barely seemed to give a shit despite being adamant that they did care
>>332462698
>ogre battle 64
>start battle and sit to win
>earthbound
To easy
Poo feels like a after thought.
RNG influences too many aspects of this game. Yes, there are things you can do to lessen the impact, but it makes up a large amount of the game.
Helped ruin video games.
>>332463871
Have you never read the bible?
Episode 4
Still better than Doom II's levels by a long shot though
>>332467386
Yeah, I was talking about XIII. A few of the characters grew on me even though I hated most of them at first. Also I love the visual design and the world building. The paradigm system is interesting to me so its enough to keep me playing through it.
I also went in with absolutely no expectations since I wasn't that familiar with FF. I didn't even realize people hated it until well after I'd played it
>>332467684
No, and I'd like to start with the story/passage where a kid escapes his crazed mother into a rogue-like in his basement.
So point it out to me. You sound confident, so I'm sure you have the passage and verse memorized.
>>332467068
Every other major turn-based RPG was just as slow, retard.
One of the major things I love about CT is no random encounter faggotry. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
And Mystic Quest was my firs RPG you cunt.
>Oblivion
The models were terrible and there was no challenge with everything being leveled around you.
>>332462698
>Bioshock series as a whole.
>fuck you too
The stories bore the fuck out of me. I genuinely enjoy the gameplay and lore way better.
DMC4's second half was clearly rushed
overall the graphics are alright, but some areas just are just plain ugly
WipEout 3 SE being released in EU only should be considered a war crime.
MediEvil's camera and combat feel straight out the year they came from. Kind of hard to hold that against the game proper but it does date it a little.
>>332467684
Have you?
I know it's a parallels of the story of Abraham and isaak, but the basement part and Isaac running at all is nothing like the bible
>>332468058
> liking Bioshock for the gameplay
> actually hating their stories
Guess there's all kinds in the world. By the way, you should definitely play System Shock 2. Literally Bioshock with better gameplay and a less pretentious story.
The mechanic of switching to the dark world and back to the light world feels forced and doesn't add alot on a game play perspective.
If you would've been stuck in the dark realm for a few dungeons, I think the machinic would fill more full I think
Not so much the curfew, but the fact that you'd pass out at 2am was annoying as fuck
Demon's Souls
Maneaters are bullshitPrecursor to the "filthy casual i bet you cant even beat a hard game like dark souls" thing
>>332462698
Valdis Story's storyline and character building isn't very good.
>>332462698
fallout new vegas has a lot of missed potential but that can be attributed to Obsidian really only getting a poultry amount of time to finish it.
the NCR path is also pretty boring which sucks causeit's my favorite faction
>>332469123
Maneaters and False King Allant are the best bosses in the game.
Metroid prime was too linear and completely uninitiative with the level design
![IMG_4793[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4hMiBpr.jpg "IMG_4793[1].jpg")
>>332469402
>a poultry amount of time
>Dwarf Fortress
Why do the menus have menus in their menus
>>332469873
>>332469402
paltry* lmao never looked up the real spelling
Ace Combat's dialog can get corny at times
>American woman unable or unwilling to use a gun, even when her life depends on it
>>332469958
Dwarven Programming.
>>332462698
Duke 3D's second episode isn't quite as good as the rest.
>>332467448
I hadn't played jrpgs for a while and decided to jump in with it. Most tales of fans on /v/ seem to hate its gameplay however I think it's alright. It plays like xillia and xillia 2 in terms of combat and has an interesting feature that allows for 2 characters to fuse.
Storywise it's your classic "country hero discovers it's his destiny to bring peace to the world" tale but the characters are likeable and really add a lot to the game.
However the heroine who was advertised during the game's developement was switched out late in the developement cycle because the director (or was it the writer? I just know his name is baba) found a VA he liked to voice another character who replaced the initial heroine,it also didn't help that said character is a mary sue
>>332468493
Idiot.
Hint: The Binding of Isaac is literally the name of a story in the bible
Gunstar Heroes can be cheesed with lightning+homing. Only level 5 becomes a threat because of the abundance of nigh-invincible crates that eat all the homing shots. Even then, it's cake.
>>332470834
uh, he literally said he gets the parallel between the game and the bible story. the argument here is the fact that isaac in the bible wasn't chased into a basement by his mother, he was led by his father before an angel intervened. that makes it at least a semi-original story in how its factors/characters are structured
>>332468731
>you should definitely play System Shock 2
Yeah, I've heard that. It's on my list of games to try out.
>>actually hating their stories
I don't hate them, they just bore me, and make it hard for me to stay engaged.
Bio 1's story just seemed dry to me,"HAHA, you were under my mind control this WHOLE TIME, and you killed your dad, how evil of me HAHA".
2 was better imo because I felt that your character had something to fight for, and it opened up some lore for the earlier models of big daddies. The ending was ehh though.
I might have to actually back-peddle on what I said about Infinite, because I did love all the characters, but the story imo really started to fall apart with the convoluted, "many worlds blah blah blah", "we have to kill comstock before he becomes comstock blah blah blah". So now thatColumbia doesn't exist anymore, the lore is kind of pointless to me.
>>332470834
The Binding of Isaac has nothing to do with biblical binding of Isak. There's no mother, there's no basement, no tears, no monsters. Don't try to act like you know what you're talking about.
>>332470834
The game could as well be called the Wedding of Cana or the Crucifixion of Christ. Those are both stories in the Bible too and they have nearly as much in common with the game as Abraham and Isaac story.
Super Mario Sunshine had some dull levels. Ricco Harbor and Gelato Beach had meh layouts, and Noki Bay was a bitch to navigate. Also, fuck the poison river yoshi stage.
>>332470834
He just fucking acknowledged that it was based on the Binding of Isaac of the Bible you illiterate moron.
His point was that in the Bible, Isaac doesn't run away into a dungeon and eventually fight back at Abraham.
Too many random battles? If not that you became unstoppable after learning how to transform into controlled Kaiser?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xg1HLA1IZaE
the best girl has a penis
>>332471937
Drakenguard 3?
>>332471692
Except for the entire main point which is the killer parent.
New Vegas combat and gameplay sucks tortoise dick
Tactics Ogre.
How the fuck was I supposed to know that if I removed all my units besides the main character and unequipped all my equipment I could have a peaceful parlay at that castle instead of having to fight and spill blood?
Jacob, Miranda, Samara and Jack were boring as fuck.
>>332472360
True. But still makes very little sense to say that the Binding of Isaac story is straight from the Bible.
RE2's zapping system isn't as fleshed out as it should have been.
>>332473003
Oh for sure, they're super wrong about that. For one in B.o.I god doesn't actually want you dead.
>>332462698
The only good thing about Spy vs. Spy on PS2 was multiplayer with a 4 way multitap. Everything else was shit.
>>332466892
It's crazy how Binding of Isaac is the first game to take ideas from other games.
Wait...
>>332472959
samara killing her offspring and then not giving shep dat sweet blue booty was boring? jacobs personal quest was boring?
>>332467068
How do you live with such radioactively terrible taste?
The voices. Those damn voices.
>>332462698
Tales of Symphonia's sidequests are so obscure and removed from everything you're doing that you needed a guide to realize they even existed.
The Legend of Spyro's plot had a stupid amount of holes in it. Where did Cynder get her jewelry after being frozen for 3 years? Was Malefor really immortal or was he just bragging? How does one's malice literally create hell? How come you cant use dragon time in DotD? How did the destroyer come back to life? Malefor's entire statement on how Cynder had freed him and how Spyro brought him back makes no sense. Why did he say he was brought back to life is he was immortal? Who were the guys at the end of the game? Did Malefor die or was he just imprisoned in the Earth's core?
I could go on
Monster Hunter's armor creation is a bloated catalog of same stats, different looks or different stats, same look. All the wasted time spent modeling and coding armors that are never used or too resource demanding to be worth it.
>>332462698
Assassin's Creed Black Flag.
Crew system is the worst copout facebook app shit in history. They could've done a recruit system like Brotherhood and Revelations to actually level up and feel for your crew but they fucked it up.
Same with your personal island having 3 shitty upgrades in contrast to monteriggioni and the homestead which really changed and expanded a lot transforming into huge comfy player bases
>>332473520
1 and now finally 2 are both undubbed anon
Having to play through 999 multiple times to get all the endings is awful, and the puzzle difficulty is brain dead.
>>332466583
>For example
Water hazard. Water hazard is the only thing you really need to knock HL2 down a few pegs.
The developers ran out of ideas by the Eight circle and just did challenge mode in the story. That circle has a lot of good areas where you could get some cool puzzles in but didn't.
>tfw trying to think of a game that I love
>>332467250
It also has shit face models and need a hundred niggabytes of mods and unofficial patches to make it playable
The only way to save pic related is by reading a walkthrough
>>332466014
That's funny, that's my favorite part of it. I wish all games used dice roll systems when checking for success
>>332472959
Samara and Jack are fine. Jacob and Miranda are shit, though.
Shantae and the Pirate's Curse.
Needed more Twitch and Vinegar. Way more.Also, that useless fucking kick. What a waste of gems.
>>332474450
>stuck on infinite loading screen
>same three tips over and over again.
Is there a mod for this?
Tried to be too much EdgyBut seriously though, it is not nearly as edgy was some other games from the time, like GoW 2, and it definitelly not even close to games from today like Hatred and DmC. The game theme was great for me, even if some PoP TsoT purists got butthurt.
>>332465921
FNAF or some Nintendo game
>>332467857
>Every other major turn-based RPG was just as slow, retard.
It sounds like you only played FF games or Square soft games imo
It's a good game but I feel it tries to imitate 2033's story way too strictly.
>>332475059
I remember ragequitting this game after getting sick of enemies always countering my attacks.
>EA
>>332462698
Is Afterbirth for PS4 ever gonna be released?
Like, been delayed by 4 months or something.
FFVII - the backgrounds and FMVs may be good, but the game looks like ass, the old hag type of ass, if I have to specify.
>Blast Corps
Fuck the camera and fuck Backlash
>DK64
The second half of the game starts bullshitting and makes you go back and forward with Abilities to get Banana's in a tedious way, also fuck Beaver Bother
>Super Mario Galaxy
Welcome to the 100th Million purple coin mission
>Super Mario Galaxy 2
Take a fucking break
>Super Mario 3D World
Boom Boom and Pom Pom didn't need to exist, they are really fucking bland
>Ogre Battle 64
Chaos Frame is never explained to you, and it makes a huge difference on which characters you can acquire throughout the game and the ending you get
>Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright
They throw on the HONORABU JAPANESE WORRIAH vibe on too strongly at some points, and not at all at others. a good balance would've been better.
>Dark Souls 1
seriously how the fuck are you supposed to know that the drake was going to breathe fire on the bridge the first time. how would you know how to kill the drake without cheesing him with ranged weaponry.Motherfucker still gives me trouble to this day.
>Super Smash Brothers (any)
The community is extremely toxic. Half of the community screaming "WAAAAAAAH IT'S JUST FOR FUN" and the other half saying "WOW GIT GUD, BANNED STAGES, BANNED CHARACTERS SAKURAI THIS SAKURAI THAT."
Not to even mention the fucking wars between which game is best. Good goddamn lord, I don't think I've seen people as salty as they were since 9/11 when Sm4sh came out.
Necromancy is broken beyond all fuck. Raising troops as well as raise dead permenantly reviving them. You get a good hero with sorcery, along with summoning magic and you just raise dead all day erry day. Never lose troops ever.
>heroes of might and magic v
>>332475692
Bless Popcap
They deserve the Nobel prize for not going to shit after being bought by EA
>>332475309
>or some Nintendo game
Fuck the three-day minigame heart pieces in Majora's Mask. Thank god I 100%'d the game, otherwise I'd always feel a compulsion to have to complete them eventually.Bonus: I'm still salty that they messed with swimming as Zora Link in the 3DS remake.
Can't skip collectibles animations when picked up.
Super Mario 64 has those red coin stars which kind of suck in my opinion and the bowser fights are all the same.
>Never get Battlefront 3
>Never get to blast traitors
>Only affects first game but no sprinting
>>332462698
Monster Hunter needs a working game chat.
I'd really like to be able to talk to someone without having to join his room, it would save me so much time
>>332462698
>The fact that the Lost's Holy Mantle is rerolled with the D4 makes the D4 completely useless despite it being a cool idea on paper
>some rooms are literally impossible to do without getting hit with mediocre speed
>the handful of meme items
>the music is fine, but worse than the original
That's all I gotI don't think I can handle Afterbirth+. I've already put more time in this damn game than I have in any other and now there's going to be infinite new content? Edmund pls, I'll never leave my room again
The dungeon design is about as varied and interesting as a piece of modern art.
>>332462698
Mega Blast is a bit disappointing for what it is.
>>332476978
you know to cheese the dragon because you had to cheese the dragon in demon souls
>>332462698DemonRuins
>>332462698
it wasn't long enough : ^ )
>SaGa Frontier
The mechanics are all incredibly esoteric (but that's part of why I love it)
>Final Fantasy VIII
Rinoa is one of the worst vidya females in existence
>Silent Hill 2
The pizza is eternal
>Catherine
Rapunzel is hard as fuck
>Bloodborne
Not much to do with Insight after a certain point
>>332481241
Agreed. All the lost's rebirth unlocksexcept Isaac's heartall felt borderline OP, and are always exciting to find. The keeper's unlocks, and the lost's new unlocks on the other hand are all pretty boring and don't feel like fitting prizes at all for pulling off the feat of beating the game multiple times with those characters.
>>332462698
Those fucking blue spikes in Stardust Speedway are complete horseshit. Sonic CD is a god-tier game, but those spike balls are ass.
Base game is boring as shit and i only play it for the mods
>>332467684
Apparently not
>>332462698
Underwater escort part in MGS2.
>the camera, the swiming controls, static radar, Emma's shitty breath meter
The ending was absolute shit-tier. The idea of your actions being pointless alone isn't terrible, but the way it was conducted is. It's literally just "rocks fall, everyone dies", and the fact that only about 2 characters get an actual arc so instead of it being poignant you just think it's bullshit that all these characters that you barely got to know are killed by off-screen politics because they couldn't write an actual ending.
>Half-Life
Precursor of the linear corridor shooter.
>Doom 1
Episode 4's first two levels are fucking crazy in terms of difficulty. No super shotty or enemies like archvile and revenant (yes they're annoying but they let maps become more interesting, especially archvile).
>Fallout 2
Ton of references, I personally don't mind them but there is a lot of them. Once you get power armor you're basically invincible, I know this makes sense but you get it pretty dang early, at least if you know what you're doing.
>TF2
Horrid optimisation. No new MvM maps. CTF in general.
>>332462698
New Vegas gets way too easy after a while on any difficulty.
>>332482165
exactly. I have 450 hours but i don't even want to start fucking with the keeper. it's not fun and i know the unlocks are shit.
>>332472959
>Jacob
Who? Was he in a DLC?
Shell 2 in mgs2 is maybe 20% complete. The english dub sucks, especially compared to the fantastic mgs1 dub. The tranquilizer gun should not be able to be used in the Plant chapter.
>>332484730
The nice thing about the Keeper is he's pretty easy to make almost invincible by just blowing up pots on the first floor and holding R until you get the swallowed penny at which point it's GG. However that's not a particularly fun way to play so I don't blame you for not bothering
>>332479289
Like a third of the jiggies in that game are "walk here to win". I adore BK but it's a bit too easy at times. Had I chosen this game that's the flaw I would've listed.
>>332462698
DmC was Terrible and awkward on every other level apart from maybe the Vergin DLC, and even that was stolen from Bleach.
The game quite clearly rehashes things from the first game. Almost every chapter has SOMETHING in it that makes it similar to the same numbered chapter of the first game.
Also, the music can be very atmosphiric, but unlike the first game, it's not quite as memorable and catchy.
>>332476978
>seriously how the fuck are you supposed to know that the drake was going to breathe fire on the bridge the first time
Because a dragon in Demon's Souls did the same exact thing. I guess you got a warning in the form of tons of burnt bodies and equipment in DeS, though.
On a Rail sucked.
>>332473367
Taking ideas from others isn't the problem. The issue with BoI is that it's shit despite using an already established game mechanism since they failed to improve on it
>>332468493
That's the point, binding of Isaac (Game) is a fractured fairy tale.
>>332462698
X-COM: UFOD has a tendency toward being incredibly unforgiving, is riddled with various bugs, and has a fairly steep learning curve.
>>332462698
>Antichamber blows its wad way too early with all the really interesting puzzles. I like the block mechanics in this game but the puzzles later on stopped being amazing and just went down to, well, puzzling, and I feel as though it lost something there.
>Limbo does a similar thing where the first part of the game is this really rich and immersive world with the spider and the Lost Boys and all that shit, but the second half of the game is just puzzles in the same exact factory environment over and over again.
>Skullgirls has too low a skill ceiling and the Peacock AI can fuck right off
>Shovel Knight's drop-money-upon-death mechanic sucks when you factor in that bottomless pits exist in that game
>Undertale's story takes a very bad-anime-feeling twist in the true ending that feels forced and manipulative
Nuclear throne runs are way too dependent on having the strong spirit and rhino skin mutations while mutations like recycle gland are relatively useless. Later loops are "have a melee weapon or die to unavoidable bulle wall".
Tales of symphonia was the last great tales of game.
The extras should've been added in.
Bully is getting too popular for it's own good thanks to hipsters.
Backtracking isn't fun if there's nothing to see along the way
SOTN is the game. Sorry.
