No snow levels
No desert levels
Boring level design
Why do People think it's better than Mario 3?
More polished (in spite of its famous glitchiness)
Yoshi
Cape > Leaf
Better secrets
Better boss battles
Yoshi
Because it has Yoshi the shitty player crutch and a pretty cape with less flight restrictions to skip the super hard three pits per level
>>332428250
>>332427526
STOP SHITTING ON THIS GAME SONYGGERS
>>332428250
God forbid people have fun learning the technique to flying or riding on the back of a dinosaur buddy.
>>332428489
God forbid people prefer levels with varied terrain and not flat stretches of land with the occasional overhead slope
>>332427526
>No snow levels
>No desert levels
good
>Boring level design
shit taste
>some fags wanted this game in North America instead of doki doki panic reskinned
>not realizing Super Mario 2 USA set the tone for the series with every game having it's own gameplay style (until the New Super Mario Bros era)
>the history of Mario in the West might be completly different if the second game was essentially a map pack with the same graphics and music
>>332428250
>less flight restrictions
it's hard to keep flying forever in mario world the heck are you talking about?
>>332429096
>with every game having it's own gameplay style
>2 is literally the odd one out
>the history of Mario in the West might be completly different
>actual games with difficulty instead of baby mode gimmicks
>>332427526
>Why do People think it's better than Mario 3?
Eh... it's really up to preference. IMHO SM3 is clearly the better game, more level variety, definitely more challenging, but that's just me. Plus I really like the frog suit.
The thing is, SM3 is pretty much the swan song of the NES; the people involved knew the hardware inside and out, and it pushed said hardware to it's limit.
SMW is a good game, but it's was literally the first effort on a new platform. I don't think it's fair to compare the two, but hey, some people really fucking like Yoshi.
What really puffles my jigglies is when people act like NSMBW/U pale in comparison to SMW; it's pure nostalgia faggotry.
>>332429887
>I want Assassin's Creed, the platformer
jump in a vat of acid, the massive changes made to each Mario game is what keeps the series fresh.
>>332430151
>honestly thinking that without Doki Doki we wouldn't have gotten Mario 3
Stop being retarded.
Patrician level Mario coming through lads
>>332430672
>Mario
but that's not a mario
>>332427526
SMB3 got way too hard near the end. World had a far better and fairer difficulty curve. Plus it has much more replayability with the secret exists and special worlds.
>>332430672
Super Mario Bros 2 is shit though. Horrible level design, bad character balance, boring environments, only 5-6 songs in the entire game etc.
>>332430875
Your taste is shit
>>332430672
not mario
You left out big world which is best world
>>332430779
fun fact, Doki Doki Panic began life as a Mario game, before becoming DDP, before becoming Mario once again for the US release.
It's a Mario game, pusscake.
>>332430845
>SMB3 got way too hard near the end
It's not that hard. Besides, the final world should be challenging. Valley of Bowser was a joke and Tubular is the only level that stands out in the special world since people weren't used to the P-balloon.
>>332427526
Because IS SO BAZINGA!
>>332430964
My taste is shit because I don't like a blatantly boring mediocre game?
>>332431035
>It's a Mario game
nope
it's adream
>>332427526
Desert levels are fucking trash. Fuck Mario 3 fr making them a staple of the series.
>>332430964
>It is a good mario game cause it is the first I played
>>332427526
>wanting the most cliché parts of the Mario franchise
>not liking the forest of illusion or star road
The only good words in Mario 3 was world 4,5 and 7 everything else was shit compared to world
1: mario 3
2: mario 2
3: super mario world
>>332432110
>most cliché parts of the Mario franchise
>first game to introduce them
Since it seems we're purposely acting retarded now.
>forest and "secret" star road
>the other most cliche parts of the Mario franchise
>>332432267
just because it introduced the concept doesn't mean it's not a cliche
>>332430005
>What really puffles my jigglies is when people act like NSMBW/U pale in comparison to SMW
it's the truth tho.
>boring level design
>bridge
>Forest of Illusion
>ghost houses
>baller ass underwater ghost ship
>Star Road 5
>Special Stages 1 and 3
>Switch Palaces
>dolphins
>giant green ectoplasm orbs
Yeah, fuck you.
>>332432478
So World is equally cliche thanks to caves, haunted houses, water, forests, and a starry world?
>>332427526
>no snow levels
Is this guy serious?
>>332432838
Caves, water levels and forests were all in SMB3 you dumbass
No fire levels in SMW
Did they even try??
>>332433040
Wow, that means World is an even bigger amalgamation of clichés by comparison.
>>332433221
Fixed.
>>332427526
they misspelled desert so we got Chocolate Island instead
>>332432478
world has dinosaurs
literally the biggest cliche
>>332433217
>implying
SMW>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SMB3
deal with it
>>332427526
>No snow levels
Just for the record, while there is no actual snow, there are two ice stages.
'Donut Secret 2' and 'Awesome'
>>332433401
How are dinosaurs a cliche?
>>332428862
>Stretches of land with the occasional overhead slope
>>332434125
>cherrypicking as hard as he was
>>332428862
>>332428250
confirmed with never actually playing the game
>>332433040
>Forests
Where the fuck were forests in Super Mario Bros 3?
>>332434096
same way snow and deserts are
now's your turn to bullshit your way out of this
>>332434193
Oh yeah man, some real cherrypicking going on. It took me what, a whole minute to look this shit up?
>>332434223
In ur mom's bum
>>332433401
>they misspelled desert so we got Chocolate Island instead
My mind is so blown right now
>>332434327
>being a defensive faggot thinking I'm completely against you
>>332434327
>The moving blocks are the only blocks that are partially submerged in lava.
Why are some details only so clear when looking at a full picture of the map?
>>332434390
Fun fact, you know how they call it Choco Island in Super Mario Kart? That's how they say "Chocolate" in Japanese.
>>332428026
I'll add better music too
>>332434125
>replying seriously to a generalization made an hour ago
protip: this makes you look retarded
>>332434705
I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion
>>332430343
Mario 3 wouldn't have the insane hype it did back in 1990. Kids watched a shitty movie just to see a few minutes of gameplay. Nintendo would have to convince everybody that Mario 3 is a completely new game unlike Mario 2 jap.
>>332435859
>Kids watched a shitty movie just to see a few minutes of gameplay.
>>332436042
I love the ________. It's so _______.
>>332435859
>Nintendo would have to convince everybody that Mario 3 is a completely new game
>The Wizard literally does this in the few minutes the game is on screen
>3 went on to make a gorillion sales and 2 is only remembered when a turnip shows up
>>332430845
You can literally skip levels that are too hard with the cloud item, or P-wing over the whole stage.
>>332435859
>Kids watched a shitty movie just to see a few minutes of gameplay
And it fucking worked. 3 got a fucking cartoon, toys, etc.
What did 2 get?
>>332436236
Nobody would sit through The Wizard in the first place if they expected another SMB1 expansion
>>332436434
>what did 2 get
A cartoon, the same one your screenshot is from.
>>332427526
Don't forget
>no Tanooki suit
We wouldn't be seeing that suit again for a while.
>>332436670
>A cartoon
The villains appeared in a general Mario show.
Remember? It was the Super Mario Bros. Super Show, not The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 2.
>>332436268
There's like 3 clouds and I think 2 Pwings total that you run across in standard gameplay. If you get your hands on any more than that you obviously are already good at the game and don't even need them.
In SMW capes are given out like candy and you can fly over the majority of the levels in the game.
>>332427526
World and 3 were both good games. The question is, which had a better soundtrack?
>>332430672
my favorite NES mario game
>>332437427
they were both pretty weak compared to sm64
>>332437427
3 had better map themes, World had better level themes.
>>332437632
Damn man, took the words right out of mouth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhYMtJrfTLY
dis is the best mario song of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sH-l2xN3gU
