So, is or isn't this worth playing?
I was hyped for it. Played the beta. But i'd say it's too linear. The art design is good. The musics are reminescent of the ragnarok years. But IMCgames wants to transform the game into a pay2win. Also people thinks skills are underwhelming but I don't really agree
>>332416759
it's not even fully released you mong
>>332416916
No shit, you fucking faggot.
>>332416916
Nice going answering a question he didn't ask boyo.
>>332416759
it's ass
It's a fun game but the devs have been ruining it with freenium bullshit and it wouldn't be surprising if they continued to make it worse.
>Removing player to player trading so you can't give/receive items from friends so they can force you to use the auction house which requires premium currency or else you have to wait to collect items/money you get through it.
That was when I gave up on the game. It's one thing to ask for money but it's another thing to flat out remove a game feature that makes it less fun in order to try and make money. I hear it's even worse now.
>>332416759
It's free. Play it yourself and find out.
>>332418284
$20 every month if you want to do most stuff.
>>332418284
free but not for another month. Just watch videos in the mean time.
>>332416759
No, it's shit.
Art and music are great, everything else is your standard korean garbage.
>>332416759
It's good by MMO standards. But, those are low standards.
>>332416759
It was fun during iCBT and kOBT but the freemium shit is annoying and the devs are kinda shit when it comes to balancing things whether its classes or how they want you to gain EXP.
It's also linear as fuck. Endless corridor into big opening simulator.
>>332416759
>different tiers of premium
>they slap pay2win on your face
looks like its the typical "pay for fun once you reach late/endgame"
Post webms?
Is f2p out, or just the preorder?
not at all
>>332418954
f2p in a month
>>332416759
I dont know, Im still waiting on the queue to not be awful
>Game with an insanely high level cap that's all about grinding.
>There are +% exp items in the cash shop.
Enjoy never ever being able to compete with you aren't constantly spending money.
>4 hour queues
>>332421168
A new server just poped up.
Nobody is in it.
>>332421283
>In 30 days I'll be forced to suffer europenis ping
not worth
where can I find some good builds for this game?
>>332421456
Online
>>332421506
no shit sherlock.
>>332421027
Don't forget about that early access, better pay up now before you're too far behind goyim
>>332421594
Do I need to teach you how to use Google now?
>>332422315
yes please
>Steam reviews praising the game for the grind.
>>332423186
>Korean grindfest delivers
>wow why do people who wanted a korean grindfest rate this korean grindfest highly...
So what's the best squire build?
>>332423352
>wow why do people who wanted a korean grindfest rate this korean grindfest highly...
Because they are literal unironic retards.
>>332423684
But they got exactly what they wanted???????????????
>>332418005
>Remove trade
How do trading related professions work them, like squires and alchemists? Just reading this, it's beyond retarded.
>>332423763
>???????????????
Are you stupid, or something?
>>332424076
>Oh fuck they got exactly what i wanted
>hehe i know i'll call him stupid!
>>332424262
What are you talking about? I was obviously referring to your overuse of question marks, which is something only teenagers or retards do, you dense piece of shit.
>>332423775
There is an auction house where you sell your things and people buy them, kind of like Grand Exchange in Runescape.
Squires sell their services by setting up a stall that they can leave up while logged out.
>>332418417
Can you elaborate on that? I was about to buy the $10 pack to play it now but not if it's like that.
>>332426661
You need to buy a token from the cash shop that lasts 30 days to enable a shitload of benefits and basic features, it costs 15$ i think.
You can trade them but good luck with the in game gold price on that.
So it's f2p only in name, without paying all you get is a demo.
>payfags get access literally an entire month before everyone else
ELLL EMMM AYYY OHHHH
>>332418417
Wait, it's not f2p anymore now its f2p with restrictions?
>>332427383
Payfags also get access to basic features that should be accessible to all users, and normally are in other MMOs.
I was told I can make an explosions girl in this game
>>332427505
It's free to play but you get 30% less exp from killing enemies, can't trade outside of the auction house, the auction house has a 30% tax, and can only run one dungeon a day.
>>332427617
so fucking stupid. i thought we were done with this p2w shit
>>332427736
Well time to uninstall it and completely forget about it
>>332427736
Also reduced move speed i believe.
Remember how people made fun of the SWTORs 'pay to sprint' fiasco? Yeah.
>>332427786
It's not even P2W, it's literal paywall on basic features.
>Can't trade without tokens
>Can't have a shop without a token
>Can't have more than 1 item on Auction House without token
>Large pay tax without token for using AH
>Only one attribute learnable without token
>Movement speed is lowered if no token
>MMO with a musketeer class finally comes out
>it's shit
why this? :(
>>332427970
The move speed is unnoticable. The truth is if you aren't playing cataphract then it's suffering to walk to the higher leveled maps where goddess statues are more spread out. Especially since warp scrolls cost real money, don't they?
>>332428126
There was that one mmo where you controlled 3 characters at a time that had musketeers i believe.
Also that one with turn based combat on a grid, Atlantica i think? Shit was pretty nice until they went full jew mode.
>>332421428
>Sprite made from 3D model
uninstall.exe
Can you trade without pay-tokens yet?
>>332429658
No, but you can get tokens though the AU. It'll cost you alot though, especially without token active.
>>332429745
Great, I don't have to play now <:^)
>>332428336
>There was that one mmo where you controlled 3 characters at a time that had musketeers i believe.
Same dev as tree of savior.
After reading about all this jewing, why THE FUCK dont they just put a p2p model and make a great game instead of this p2w garbage? Is it really more profitable?
>>332430346
Well use to be, at the start it was the same dev, then somewhere along the line when that went from subs to free to play they bailed the fuck out and eventually came back around to form the current group that's making ToS.
They really didn't want to make it F2P, as they understood it's totally cancerous, but it's just the way of things now.
>I play games for the community. In this game, I have to spend real world money in order to be able to chat to other players, unless I only want to use whispers and party chat.
>Have to use premium cash to use basic chat features
>>332430546
> Is it really more profitable?
Insanely so.
SWTOR went from a company sinking tier disaster to profitable once it went f2p.
>>332419054
>f2p in a month
I thought its f2p in june?
>>332428086
>US without Token
Can only do 1 dungeon a day
>US with Token
Can only do 2 dungeons a day
>KR without Token
Can only do 2 dungeons a day
>KR with Token
Can do 5 dungeons a day
>>332430976
They bailed on that fast as fuck, because everyone got pissed immediately at levels of PAY UP to access a server and waiting for months till you got in to play normally. They pushed it to end of april for public F2P now.
>>332431265
>pushed it to the end of april
fuck yes
>>332430938
Once again I see a case of making something available to the masses fucks the thing available extremely
>>332427221
that really bums me out, but I shouldn't have expected any less
>>332431265
>because everyone got pissed
No dipshit, they held a poll on the forums and asked people when they wanted it. We said 1 month. They made it 1 month.
Fuck off with your bullshit.
>>332433194
And why do you think they held the poll after initally allowing you to pre-purchase entry into the server for April? Maybe you need to be smart enough to know your own chain of events anon.
>>332433194
>payfags trying this hard to preserve their precious little "utopia" before the plebs come
pathetic people if i'm honest. keeping free players out doesn't make the game better by any means
>>332433560
Because people complained about it with ALL SORTS of reasonings. Some said they wanted it longer. Some said they wanted it shorter. Some said there shouldn't be one. Some said it needed to be a permanent Founders Only server.
So seeing that there were 10000 fucking opinions, they had a poll.
It wasn't because they were "OH MUH GOD WE FUCKED UP WE BETTER CATER". They did it because they listen to the players.
>>332433653
No but at least you'll be able to recoup a bit of money when the Chinese come along to drag everyone down to their shitty levels again
NA player
>oh boy a new MMO time to try it out
EU player
>oh boy a new MMO time to try it out
KR player
>oh boy a new MMO time to grind 24 hours a day to be the absolute best
CN """""player""""""
>OH BOY A NEW MMO TIME TO HACK, MACRO AND STEAL FOR GOLDFARMING TO SELL ON DODGY WEBSITES! ALSO TIME TO REV UP THE SPAMBOTS TO CONSTANTLY HARASS PLAYERS! WE HAVE DODGY HUMAN RIGHTS SO TIME TO TAKE IT OUT ON THE REST OF THE WORLD!
Chinese people aren't human. No way they are.
>>332434087
Chinese IPs are banned too. Won't stop all of them but it's a nice little filter.
>>332434087
To be fair in KR playerbase favor, their xp rates tend to be lower and their cashshops tend to be less expansive. NA, SEA, and EU servers tend to be inflated with higher exp and more expansive cash shops.
>>332434306
Oh that's a nice plus. Honestly every MMO should just range ban China, they don't actually play these sort of games they just tear it to pieces any way they can for the sake of minor monetary gain.blade and soul doesn't but that's the least of that game's fucking problems
>>332431529
you literately can't do the basics of functions with out paying, why the fuck would you want to play this game F2P
>>332434553
>can't trade or have shops
Oh no what a terrible fate. That will completely ruin the combat, which is the entire point of the game, for me.
>>332435341
>can only train one attribute
>premium players are faster then you
yeah Combat isn't effected :^) enjoy pvp cuck
>>332435341
Or chat.
>>332435341
You also miss out on ability to learn more than one attribute at a time, and be restricted to one dungeon a day, and have slower movement rate. And your chat is restricted.
>>332435506
>>332435524
>>332435606
>premium players get better QOL shit
No shit. That's the point of premium. You pay, you get a superior service.
>>332435685
>moving faster and not being able to chat and do more then one dungeon a day is a QoL thing
You're a Brazilian aren't you
>>332435606
>and have slower movement rate
dropped, fuck everything about this game
-alpha RO player
Are the Vubble Fighters no longer in the mine?
>>332435815
The BRs are the ones bitching about that you dipshit. People like me have money and don't care about you getting a lesser service.
>>332435985
>And don't care about getting an inferiour service
That's really sad anon.
>>332435985
So you pay money for a free game so that they can play it for free and you think you are the superior one?
Dude, you are their slave. You are literally paying for free shit.
>>332435985
sure anon, sure they are
>>332436215
>I pay a pittance
>I get better service
>I get more skills
>I move faster
>I get free shit
>etc
>b-b-but the people living in squalor are the better ones! w-we win!
I didn't think this game was available to console peasants.
>>332436195
Why should I care about others? What do you give me?
>no IP range ban on Brazil
No thanks. I would pay for a guaranteed BR free server.
>>332436558
>I pay
>I get free shit
What.
Wait, what?
>>332436932
He is saying that he has no problem being nickle and dimed for basic services so that he can feel superiour to others when playing a shitty F2P MMO.
>>332436734
Orsha is the unofficial BR server, so just don't play there.Otherwise you can declare war on them whenever you want and butcher them like cattle.
>>332436932
Free shit in-game. I pay IRL, I get it free in the game instead of having to pay in-game. Essentially legal currency exchange.
>>332436558
>Why should I care about others? What do you give me?
Just pointing out that I feel bad for you, you're a sad person. Hope you have a good life in a future, because you are a very very sad person.
>>332437058
> I pay, I get it free
Are you ok?
I think you forgot your meds.
>>332416759
microtransactions
cosmetics
pay to play faster than everyone
in short: no it's chinese p2w trash as usual
>>332437356
You're having trouble understanding what I mean or I'm having trouble explaining it. Earning it in-game would take many, many hours. Instead I'm paying a tiny amount to get it for "free" in-game. It is free to me in the game, whereas it may be however much gold for somebody else.
>>332437154
Let me guess, voting for Bernie?
>>332437058
>>332437058
there's a screw loose with this guy
you feeling alright PF Chang?
does the game even work yet?
seems like lots of server issues
>>332437542
>Let me guess, voting for Bernie?
It's ok anon, I can take your insults. I understand your life was hard. If you like, I can even visit you if you live anywhere in or near Florida. Just know that there is someone that cares about you.
Also Trump all the way.
>>332437762
I live a good life, I just don't understand why people care about spending a tiny smidgen of money in order to make their playtime better?
Also props centipede.
>>332437889
You don't have to lie just because you're on 4chan, anon.
>>332438009
What lies could you mean anon?
>>332438218
Aww were you Triggered and bullied by /v/ into buying that, im soo swoowe widde baybee
They took everything bad about RO and diablo style games and made it worse.
Even as shit as it is right now they could fix it. But they won't. Gotta jew out money cause "spirital succesor"
Crafting classes are all useless. Most of the skills don't scale making early classes crap later on. Pratically every unique class that does something not generic caster/2h/bow is broken or weak.
Game could of been great. Copuld of had amazing class diversity that would of put the soul system from rift to shame. Instead it's turned into more cookie cutter than anything wow has ever produced.
>>332438218
jesus christ you're an idiot
>>332437542
No matter how you bend it, it's still the same.
You're not paying to get 'free shit' in game, you're buying convenience. It's not free if it has a cost. That 'free shit' you're talking about is part of the package you bought.
>>332438432
Are you ok, did you accidentally mean to go on twitter to talk like an idiot?
>>332438524
There are some things that couldn't be fixed without an extensive overhaul though, such as the game being linear as fuck and the vast majority of maps being corridors.
>>332439545
poor widdwe baybee got he's fee fee hurt :< im soo sawwee ill stop now :<
I killed a mushroom and I'm imprisoned in a cutscene now. But from what I played it's pretty fun just typical "new MMO" bullshit.
>>332440048
Watch out, dem rhetorical skills are fire.
#betterthanslicedcicero
I've never played and MMO but want to try one so I'm downloading this.
What should I expect?
>>332441275
Don't play this if you want a good introduction into MMOs. Play something like... Well, they've all gone to shit. Don't play any MMOs.
>>332427736
God fucking DAMMIT
lol. RO was unbelievable gringy shitty game. stop crying, it's dead.
MMOs are giving dead I just wanted a game where I have to team play. But all it is now is p2w or massively single player games.
Instead of using tokens, why not just have full open access too features if you pay $10 a month?
I fucking HATE MMO tokens, they are always designed in a way that you basically cant buy or do anything for the basic amount.
>>332427736
>I was actually hyped for this
>>332439137
Ok, I'll agree with you on that.
>>332438432
What in the fuck?
>>332441671
>>332442414
What's it like being poor?
>>332442404
Because this game has widespread appeal to BRs that won't pay a cent so a sub won't work, and f2p with premium shit makes more money regardless which is why people are moving toward it.
