Why don't game directors have any fucking backbone when it comes to defending their product?
>>332378290
Sounds like he is defending his product, and you just dont like the decision he came to
>>332378290
>sjws whine to devs
>devs bend over backwards
>players dislike it and cancel pre-orders
>come out with PR speak and damage control
>we didn't get rid of it because it was overly sexualizing
>we got rid of it because we wanted to make it better
a cop out answer that bends over backwards to SJWs (they only cared about it getting removed) while at the same time trying to save face
>>332378556
Fuck off with this pig disgusting western shit
>>332378290
You should check out Andrew Dobson. It sounds like he'd be right up your alley.
>>332378517
This is why nobody takes you seriously. Always with the conspiracies unless you get exactly what you want.
>>332378652
Ill thinking is a sin but it's most likely always correct. Homosexuals trust people.
>>332378290
>We won't just take things out to make one person happy.
>Takes out something just to make one person happy.
Nice.
What pose? The one with her hands on her hips? Are people seriously starting to complain about fully clothed (I think Tracer even has armor on) women being too sexy?
>>332378764
The Cammy White ass flashing one. You are not allowed to look at her ass.
>>332378859
Do you have a picture? Because I haven't been following this game really.
>>332378936
>>332378997
This a joke?
>>332378997
I think that pose does look stupid but the people complaining about it are still stupid.
>>332378290
>Jeff Kaplan
>Aka Tigole
Another game ruined by him. I wonder if theres poop socking references in Overwatch.
>>332378290
>well that escalated quickly
what exactly were you expecting retard?
When I'm one of these assholes and I have to make decisions like this for the shitty games you losers will criticize, I'm not even going to respond to this shit.
It's not like games journalism is real journalism; nobody reads it. There's never been a scandal that couldn't have been avoided by just ignoring it and using common sense. Nobody would have cared about this if he weren't just a cuck.
You know why nobody cares what the japanese do in japan? 1. It's a fucking video game, it's not real life. And 2. They don't listen to forum-faggots who whine about this shit.
Of course you bring those games over to virgin-eyed-america and it's a different story but the point still stands if you ignore this shit it'll never stink.
>>332378556
whoever drew this should stick to drawing furries, he has no idea what a human is supposed look like
>>332378290
>we already had another one in the works anyways
Then why not include them both? You did the work on both, and one is already in the game. Why is there some arbitrary limit on the number of poses someone can have?
>>332379379
>You know why nobody cares what the japanese do in japan?
Because women in Japan aren't crazy, man-hating, rape-shrieking psychopaths who want to watch the world burn?
>>332379623
And some people still don't understand why herbivore men are becoming a thing in Fapan.
>>332379623
even though that's a completely irrelevant committee I still can't believe they wasted their time on that shit when there is so much oppression of REAL women in the middle east and africa
>>332379936
Real issues take actual effort. They thought they could get an easy job and good PR by going against the Japanese. They thought wrong.
>>332378652
What conspiracy? He just listed the events as they happened. 3/10 bait I responded
Spineless coward. Blizzard is shit.
>>332378290
fuck this loser 2.0
>>332378997
DELETE THIS
this is a WORKSAFE board
>>332378290
>This wasn't pandering or caving
>This was the right call from our perspective
Wew lad. Talk about pride in not admitting on being wrong.
>>332378290
>we're not going to remove something solely because someone may take issue with it
That's LITERALLY what you just did. Not figuratively-literally. L I T E R A L L Y. One person makes a bitchy progressivist forum post and you remove the thing they don't like.
TIME TO GO ON SEX STRIKE!
>the new pose his her completely bent over looking between her legs, sticking her tongue out and making a peace sign
>based jeff lights up a cigar and kicks back while the internet explodes again
>>332378290
That sounds like a perfectly reasonable response to me.
>>332378290
I don't understand this. It wasn't even multiple people bitching about it, it was a SINGLE fucking person making a single fucking post. How fucking pussified could you be to bend over to a single post of bitching?
>>332378997
Fuck you, buddy. Where was the trigger warning?
>>332378290
>>332378997
>fully clothed, albeit skin-tight on the legs, wears realistic
>character is strong and has a personality (as much as you can get with this sort of game)
>reduced to a sex object because she showed her (again, fully clothed) ass
I can't even tell if this is SJW-work or a bunch of old religious men have suddenly taken an interest in gaming. This just seems like prudishness with a different name.
>>332380839
Horseshoe theory
I'll withhold judgement until I see the new pose they're working on as a replacement.
>>332380598
No, see, you don't see the talk behind the talk. All this is, is that they were already going to cut it. However, they knew that just cutting it would make them look bad, so they waited for the outburst and then took charge to 'correct' it. Making them look good to these people, while at the same time 'exposing' those that are deemed 'the problem'.
>>332380907
That makes no sense. They get more bad PR looking like spineless assholes and SJW-caterers than they would by just removing it and not making a fuss about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect
>>332378290
>we're not going to remove something because someone may take issue with it
Except that's precisely what he just did.
>>332378290
>playing blizzard games
>>332378290
>"Game developers should be able to make decisions on how to creatively design their final product and not have to conform to people's complaints!"
>"HEY WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID YOU GET RID OF THAT ASS, I'M CANCELLING MY PREORDER YOU SJW COMMIE FUCK"
>>332381148
There's plenty of that in the thread he posted in. Sure, there are a few people sucking his dick, but Jeff's just getting shit on left and right with no sign of this blowing over.
>>332381267
its not what he did, its how he did it
There was also a funny little joke/easter egg on the newest map which had magazines of symettra and mercy next to an outhouse (masturbation joke) that got removed. We can have an arrow impale someones face but heaven forbid such a small joke is left in there.
>>332380839
It is typical of them. They don't seem to understand that the ones that see this 'sexualization' are only themselves. A women looking over her shoulder with her back to the camera?
A normal person sees someone cocky and confident. A SJW sees someone 'presenting'.
>>332381005
Exactly, it IS stupid and worse for their PR, but they don't care because the ones that make the most 'stink' are the SJWs since they are in the media. PR departments in various companies are basically telling these studios HOW to act when it comes to dealing with potential disasters and it's always to play to the SJWs because going against the Left isn't the narrative.
It isn't just about loss of potential sales or fans, it's loss of connections in the industry. Nepotism is a more powerful force then you seem to realize, but these people are more concerned with where they are going to go later, then how people perceive them.
>>332378695
businesses actually think like this you retard holy shit you don't know know anything works
>>332380839
>reduced to a sex object because she showed her (again, fully clothed) ass
This is what annoys me most. Beyond this mildly sexy (keyword: mildly) pose the character isn't any sexier than any aesthetically pleasing female. But step out of line once (barely) and people accuse you of muh soggy knee. Heaven forbid an ASS CRACK be rendered on-screen.
they made the right decision. it was a bad pose for the character, they are removing it to add something better.
if you have a problem with this, you are trying to create drama out of nothing. go play hatred or something.
>>332378290
Because they're pussies who don't want to look like evil misogynist CIS SCUM, number one, and number two, they're selling a product so they want to make sure as many people buy it as possible.
I don't know how this clown thinks he's a director of anything when Overwatch is just a TF2 clone with character designs pandering to tumblr feminazis and numale faggots. All the characters look like shit.
They got the whole board spammed full of Overwatch threads, of course they think it was a success.
>>332380812
>>332378290
KAPLAN IS SUCH A FUCKING KEK
GOD FUCKING DAMNIT WHY DO FUCKING WHINY SJWs RUIN EVERYTHING WITH THEIR RETARDED LOGIC. OH LOOK, WE MADE A FEMALE CARACTER DO THIS INNOCENT POSE THAT I CHOSE TO INTERPRET AS SEXUAL, IT MUST THUS BE BANNED
BRING SHARIAH! PLEASE MY GAPING FUCKING SJW VAGINA BECAUSE I CAN'T HANDLE ANYTHING THAT MIGHT MAKE ME FEEL LIKE THE FAT, JEALOUS WHALE THAT I AM
WHAT THE FUCK BLIZZARD? CAN YOU FOR ONCE STAND WITH YOUR CREATIVE VISION? HOLY FUCK SHIT FUCK ALL OF THIS
I'M FUCKING DOOONE
>>332381654
Weak bait fampai :3
>>332378437
the point is he decided to "do what we wanted to do but didnt because no one said anything" the character.
would the pose still be in the final product if some faggot didnt say anything?
I just find it funny all it took was some guy and using muh child to get what he wanted. I have child who is of age to play this game but i never introduce games to my kid, if he wants to play it he will.
I can honestly say this asshole showed his daughter this game and introduced her to it.
From all the commotion I thought the pose was gonna be like pic related.
How the FUCK is that
>>332378997
pose sexualized? Is the OP insinuating that any female standing is sexualized? Does the OP realize that girls wear basically underwear to the beach where they run, swim, play volleyball, etc.?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcA6y7sxKcA
>>332379434
my gf has nearly the exact same proportions and looks just like that naked
>>332382006
chill out it's just video game.
>>332382293
Your girlfriend is fat.
>>332382445
i know she is
but she loyal so it's cool
>>332382482
as someone with a fat girlfriend and who has never felt aroused by fat women in general, i can confirm the loyalty and care received outweighs the weight situation gets my dick hard anyway
>>332382482
she better be smart too
>>332382636
I appreciate that
>>332378290
>This wasn't pandering or caving, though.
so they're pandering and caving to SJWs? Doesn't matter, Overwatch looks like consolified TF2 and it's not exactly like Blizzard is on a quality streak.
All they had to do was delete the thread. This is one of two games I'm already not buying this year because of this shit. Fuck this year man, this is awful.
>>332379669
Jeff Kaplan is a neo-nazi?
>>332382326
>SJW ruining vidya is acceptable
kill yourself enabler
>>332378290
How's this faggots: Its their game. They changed it. You can work out your anger issues screaming about it on message boards all you want, but at the end of the day YOU LOST.
There is nothing you can do to change it or prevent it in the future.
Suck it up, go jerk off, work your shift at costco tomorrow, and try to move on with the shattered remains of your lives.
>>332382852
They could just boycott the company and encourage others to do so en mass
>>332382852
>it's a mediocre game
>game is the new Evolve
>SJWs buy it in droves because respectful and non-objectifying fictional 3D rendered waifus
which one of these is least likely?
Yep, I won't be buying overwatch due to this unnecessary censorship. I have about 10 friends who also feel the same. Removing original developer concepts and character ideas because one person finds them offensive is in return offensive to the majority of loyal fans and customers who want an uncorrupted version of the game. This lame reply saying "we planned on replacing it anyway" is a childish and unnecessary lie.
>>332383128
>This lame reply saying "we planned on replacing it anyway" is a childish and unnecessary lie.
I don't know what you're talking about, game developers remove polished content and unique assets all the time. Animators and programmers are always looking for ways to have their own content removed from the game. Game developers aren't notorious for loud and bitter arguments over changes to someone's personal "pet project" within the game.
>>332382962
Sure they could boycott. They could tell everyone else to boycott. If that's worth their time they should.
Blizzard will not care. A few hundred retards "boycotting" what is easily positioned to be the most hyped up and popular esports game in years will have less than 0 effect as the half-assed boycott creates more attention for the game than it detracts from sales and popularity.
There is nothing anyone can do. Prove me wrong faggots.
>>332383409
>most popular
>e-sport
Are you daft? The entire playerbase is Twitch streamers and STILL barely anyone streams compared to other games.
The hype died down three weeks after the beta's release.
>>332382989
Sure it could be the new evolve. It could blow ass. It won't and people will flock to it like every other Blizzard product, but it could suck I guess.
A bunch of faggots who refuse to buy the game over this will not have any impact on the sales of this game. Neither will SJWs.
Millions of people will play this game who DO NOT GIVE A SHIT, because its a game huge huge media hype being released by one of the most popular developers in the games industry.
You are retarded if you think your petulant, whining voice matters to Blizzard. They do what they please and ignore who they please.
They are ignoring you.
AG
THIS SEEMS LIKE THE NEW MARKETING TREND FROM THE JEWS. THEY MAKE A SEXY ASS CHARACTER FIGURE EVERYONE PREORDERS, THEN THEY CHANGE IT TO GET THE SJW MONEY.
>>332378652
>conspiracy
You're a fuckin retard m8
>>332378290
They have no problem defending it to the bitter end if the problems people are complaining about having nothing to do with women. See: Mass Effect 3
There is just this bizarre culture of over-sensitivity happening right now, where everyone is super careful not to hurt anyone's feelings ever because that would just be the worst thing in the world. There was a time when you could've said "But anon, they want to treat people nice so they'll sell more units", but it has blown so far beyond that now to the point of being downright silly.
Like, whose purchase decision was dependent on that Tracer pose being removed? Literally nobody. Not even the bitch who complained about it in the first place - such a petty thing wouldn't make even the most insane person change their mind about buying the game.
I can't wait for more important people to start noticing how ridiculous it is, so we can eventually get back to a comfortable level where people can take a joke and aren't deathly afraid of the existence of certain human body parts.
>>332383610
Sure why not. It will be a total flop, granted.
Blizzard still does not care about the opinion of anyone saying the butt pose should have been left in. At all.
Your opinions are rendered invalid and meaningless in the wake of Blizzard not giving a shit about what you have to say.
>>332382787
le SJW boogeyman, what does it matter? Blizzard sucks ass to begin with, damn jews though right? grr
>>332384424
>Blizzard sucks ass
does not compute
>>332384493
let me rephrase that, Blizzard now sucks ass but i mean i don't like fantasy settings and there hasn't been a new starcraft expansion or anything like that in awhile so I'm pretty turned off by them. As far as I'm concerned they're already a sinking ship, why waste effort on this than other things I guess
>>332384493
>Blizzard sucks ass
>does not compute
Diablo 3? Warlords of Draenor? RNG "If you haven't been playing since launch be prepared to spend $100+ to catch up" Hearthstone? Casuals of the Storm? "We're losing subs like crazy, better bring Illidan back, give people demon hunters, and turn the pandering up to 11 by giving people Doomhammers and Ashbringers" Legion?
>>332384747
They did pretty much fix Diablo 3.
Diablo 2 was also garbage on release, since we're in the neighborhood.
>>332378290
Because the devs you know are long gone, replaced with these college kids fresh out of the burner ready to bend over backwards to make a dollar.
>>332384863
at least i can play diablo 2 on launch
>>332384863
they fixed diablo 3 when it wasn't relevant anymore. it doesn't excuse them for releasing a shitty unfinished game to begin with
>>332384863
>They did pretty much fix Diablo 3.
Thank GOD they fixed it after everyone stopped playing it! They did the same thing with WoD.JK it's a steaming pile of fucking shit and Legion somehow looks worse with the MASSIVE pruning they're doing.
>>332378290
http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/17/wildstar-to-reduce-character-breast-size/
GEEE THIS SOUNDS FAMILIAR, I am Sure its not coincidence the game also as dead as hell
>>332384994
>gaming being dead because tits got shrank
You don't think it's because the product isn't good? Believe it or not a majority of the market doesn't play video games because it pops a boner
>>332383770
I don't give a shit about Overwatch or fictional 3D rendered waifus. I'm just here to laugh at Blizzard making a stupid move. It's just bad PR, shitty pandering that will cost them a handful of sales.
Here, have a smug anime face.
>AG
wut is this?
>>332382129
Guy made an argument and it swayed the creative director.
You could argue that he wouldn't have done it if no one pointed it out, but I dont see why you think the creative director is being forced when he clearly says he wanted to do the change.
>>332378290
I don't understand. You guys no you can look up tits on the internet, right? Like as many tits as you want. You can even go to some bars and look at actual tits. Asses too.
Why does every lady character in every game need to pose in a way the prominently and intentionally displays their ass an outfit that accentuates their ass, regardless of context?
Just look up asses on the internet.
Faggots.
>>332378997
>DELETE THIS!!!
>DELETE THIS!!!
>DELETE THIS!!!
>DELETE THIS!!!
>>332378290
Werent these threads getting deleted all the time before? Is censorship in vidya now a thing we can discuss here?
kinda funny how people of all things are offended by a sexually suggestive(?) pose in a game where the goal is to creatively and efficiently kill each other in a manner where life and death of of no consequence.
>>332385642
>im worried my daughter will be exposed to sexism in my murder simulator!
>>332385610
You can discuss censorship. It would have to be hypothetical though because I don't think any censorship has taken place recently.
Also fuck yourself.
You take that horny little ass
and you find Jeffrey
>>332385850
>its not my responsibility as a parent to teach my children about sexism!
>>332385610
faGGot try to derail it into anti-woman hatred instead actual discussion about censorship
>>332379247
All this behavior in this image is far more like Afrasiabi than Kaplan.
>>332385961
Dont get mad at me for just wanting to know why the sudden switch.
>>332386007
Literally all complainers in that thread a BUTThurt parents. Why the fuck are they even playing games after they have kids? I thought your life becomes devoid of fun when you have kids.
>>332385557
lul
>>332386007
if you're using a violent game as a vehicle to teach your kids about sexism, you're probably not qualified to teach your kids anything
remember how everyone was so accepting of this gem and there being like 5 threads around the hour
>>332386253
LISA was better and no one has heard of it. I'm sad again.
>>332384863
>They did pretty much fix Diablo 3.
They "fixed" it into the best Diablo 3 can be. It's still ass compared to the other Diablo games and most of the entire genre as well, even the F2P clones.
Diablo 3 has a rotten core and no patching and expansions will fix that.
The concept of most items being class specific, soulbinding and almost 0 trading are not things that belong in Diablo.
>>332386210
well
the preceding generation doesn't really bother with anything else but videogames
its a fair medium to teach children because they actually pay attention to it more but there are better vehicles
>>332384994
Then what the fuck happened? Because I just tried that game and I made a character with tits like 3x wider than her waist.
>>332381267
>"Game developers should be able to make decisions on how to creatively design their final product and not have to conform to people's complaints!"
Yes, that is why people got upset when they changed their product to conform to people's complaints. Not sure what the second half of the post is all about.
>>332386364
LISA ripped off Undertale. Fact.
>>332378290
Because PR guy ordered them to bend over.
>>332386412
>the preceding generation doesn't really bother with anything else but videogames
as a parent, it is your job to teach them, not entertain them. if all they can do is learn from video games exclusively, that seems to be a fault on the parent's behalf.
>>332386513
What bro? Do you even bro? I dont even bro...
I'm going to throwup
>>332386513
Advanced_shitposting.avi
>>332378290
depends on the developer
>>332386586
well i agree
im just saying this generation is different
more vidya over books or whatever the fuck
Meanwhile, in 2002.
>>332386705
DELETE THIS
>pandering to people that won't even buy your games
I love this trend
>>332386253
/v/ sucked the dick of this game for 2 weeks then threw it under the bus. the retarded fanbase on 4chan stays in their /vg/ thread and lusts over goats, while baby's first troll will make an undertale thread on /v/ and you guys will shit your pants.
>>332386705
jaina barely got any stagetime in wc3
maybe tyrande
>>332386740
>>332378290
THINK OF THE CHILDREN
On some level, it's really funny to me that instead of 40 year old stay at home mothers protesting violence in video games like it was in the 90s, now it's fucking millenials (WHO THE GAMES ARE MARKETED TOWARDS) that screech and whine to have their shit censored.
I wonder if the bitch who made the complaint in the first place is already getting hell from a bunch of people. I hope so.
JUST
GIVE
ME
DAT
BUTT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP142FojQtk
>>332386780
This is what really gets me. These people don't really care about the game and they're the ones who have more of a say in what gets added or removed than the actual fans.
>>332385194
See this is the problem, and the end of the argument.
The Director comes out and says "No, we didn't like it, and the fact our audience mirrored our concerns just proves that removing it was the right choice. This isn't censorship, this is a second draft."
And that's end of the argument. There's nothing you add to that. You can say the Kaplan is an SJW, but the simple fact of the matter is that if he is an SJW, he totally has the right to remove whatever he wants from his game. This isn't nintendo deciding that American's just can't handle panty-shots, this is the original creator of the game telling you "No, Tracer doesn't need a glamour shot of her ass as a victory pose. We made WoW, we know there will be source film-maker porn within hours, you don't need our help."
But /v/ is so traumatized by Nintendo and the Localization Cabal that they're lashing out at anyone and everything, perhaps reasonably...but not in this case.
>>332386869
This is waaaaayyy more sexual than the pose.
>>332386780
The guy who complained about this sounds like he does play it though.
>>332378290
>be a wimpy nerdy introverted programmer
>caving to outrageous pressure
>>332386949
I want to impregnate a Draenei
>>332378290
>Caring about neoblizzard's shitty games
Your loss
WHY IS YOUR YOUNG DAUGHTER PLAYING A SHOOTER MEANT FOR TEENS AND OLDER
Knowing that Blizzard will bow down to ONE person fills me with glee. This means this same tactic could be tried with other companies and their games. Going to have some fun knowing this.
Oh yeah, this is a Blizzard game so it will sell millions regardless.
>>332386780
you faggots are gonna buy it anyway, because every time a "boycott" happens, you faggots buy it anyway. every time.
you have no one to blame but yourselves
>>332378652
>i hate critical thinking
>>332386949
This is a director changing his game as to not make someone feel mildly uncomfortable. It's absolutely reasonable to call him a fucking retard.
>>332386998
It was also back in 2002. The Golden Age of vidya, when anything was possible, DLC got laughed out of the room. The Xbox360 and the PS3 hadn't destroyed console gaming forever, and Video Games were just a stupid hobby for nerds and the artists who catered to them.
Welcome to the future. Games are Mainstream now. Did it make you happy, /v/? Was it everything you wanted?
>>332386169
Not really, your fun just becomes kid fun.
Youre not supposed to expect grown up activities to cater to your children. But that's exactly what these people want.
>>332387175
2007 was the beginning of the end.
>>332387098
Heh, at MOST this will result in less than 1000 lost sales, which is literally nothing.
All these faggots complaining will still buy the game anyway.
>You're shooting people to death with a wide variety of weapons
>For some reason, a butt is more offensive than that
Americans are fucking hilarious
>>332387123
Except he's flatly stating that's not the reason. This was ultimately his decision, and it was for, as far as he is saying, faggy artistic reasons, not because of SJWs.
I'm not saying your wrong, but I'm saying that his official stance was he was doing this for himself and his vision, period. You can say he's just covering his ass, but really, he'd get better points with the SJWs if he just flat out said "We're changing this because we were moved by this father's story of his thirteen year old.".
Instead he's just saying "Fuck you, we did this because it's our game, we own it, and if we want tracer to strip naked, she'll strip naked and if we want her to put on a burka she'll damn well wear a burka. If you disagree, do so and with relish, but don't turn this into GG shit."
SOCIAL STUDIES WARRIORS RUINING MY VIDEO GAMES
>games I don't care about being ruined by obnoxious americans
I don't ever want this to stop. I want to see just how hard they'll tank the industry after they take it over, and I'm going to support their hate and censorship to the very end.
>>332385540
Because it's not about the tits and never was you ignorant cretin. It's about capitulating to whiny faggots like the ones you think it's a good idea to defend so they can go on to shit up other games and waste everyone's time on garbage issues for garbage people that are uncomfortable outside of their church or furry/brony den or LBGTQQ dyke cafe or wherever it is they feel 'comfortable' i.e. surrounded by worse people than themselves.
>>332387390
>"We did this because it's our game and definitely not because of a complaint"
which was perfectly fine until immediately after someone complained about it. real fucking convincing
>>332387390
He is most definitely just covering his ass, you're looking way too much into it. If that post hadn't been made and gotten so much attention, they wouldn't have removed it.
>>332387449
You aren't funny, Rocco.
>>332387329
If anything it will drum up sales thanks to all the publicity and the outrage of only a few thousand neckbeards is the price to pay.
>>332387496
I'm sorry you don't believe him. I don't blame you, but I'm sorry just the same.
>>332387509
Who knows. We only have his word to go by. Believe him or not, you have the official stance now.
>>332378290
Because it's not THEIR product. So many people are involved in the creative process of vidya that no one person can state any significant opinions or make significant decisions on their own. It's a really fucked up way to create art but then again video games are toys, not art, which is evident by behavior like this.
>>332387469
>Because it's not about the tits
Hahaha sure. That's why it's only when tits or ass is removed that you idiots actually say anything.
>>332387390
he still said that the pose being called into question for being inappropriate helped them make their decision. I don't doubt that the pose probably was already slated for removal regardless, and if they had just swapped it without giving this retarded reason that they want everyone to be able to feel empowered or whatever then no one would have given a shit. But he's definitely NOT saying "fuck you if we want her to strip naked she'll strip." He said right there that criticism about something being inappropriate for being too sexual has an effect, which encourages SJWs.
>>332378290
>>332378437
He's so full of shit
If he really wanted to change it just because he didn't like it then why did he conveniently do it after that thread? Why didn't he just say "we're thinking about changing the pose because we don't like it and we have something different" instead of "we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings"? So the creative team was thinking about changing the pose but the straw that broke the camel's back, the deciding factor, was one post from one thread from one person. Yeah, right.
Here is a simple way to solve the question whenever a certain decision was made because the studio simply decided that it was the right thing to do, or whenever it was done because they gave into pressure:
Are they apologizing, or not? If they are apologizing, then it's a question of them fearing some kind of external moral body. If they are not apologizing, but merely changing stuff, then you have no real right to complain, unless you actually assume that YOUR DISLIKE is somehow sufficient grounds for them to change shit - an assumption that can very easily bite you in the ass.
>>332387691
What else do SJWs manage to get censored? They rage and get sexy stuff censored, the only reason that those points come up so frequently is because they haven't managed to do anything bigger yet.
>>332378997
Holy shit! She walks around in public like that? Where is her hijab?!
>>332379669
If it looks like a nu-male, and acts like a nu-male...
>>332378290
money; they want it, and they believe those kind of people are the majority. it also makes them feel good.
>>332388061
IT'S HITLER.
New age puritans preaching peace, love and 'justice'.
Thanks America.
>>332388067
>money
sjws don't buy games like these
>>332388159
No, but reactionary feminists do buy games. If they're from Blizzard.
>>332388159
try reading an entire post before posting next time.
>>332387691
>only censor tits and asses
>community backlashes against any type of censorship
>accuse them of being pervs because they only ever protest censorship of tits and asses
>>332378290
There's this weird idea that feminists don't like to express their sexuality or be sexual, when it's opposite of the truth.
>>332380812
She's ready to eat that fucking mic
here's the biz, /v/. the usual places will drum up your complaining as an attack on wymyn and decency, and the usual idiots will buy overwatch to spite you. it's practically a calculated marketing scheme at this point.
>>332388295
>There's this weird idea that feminists don't like to express their sexuality or be sexual, when it's opposite of the truth.
It's a lot more complicated than that, and there is actually no cohesion on this subject among the feminist themselves.
>>332378997
I'm all aboard the meme train, but that pose does look like shit, for real
>>332388482
Not even women can agree on feminism, hence why it's split into multiple cults. There are some who don't think trans men count as female, other who blatantly hate men, etc,
We just happen to hear the loudest most obnoxious ones like Anita who think a good looking woman cannot be a fundamentally strong and exemplary feminine figure
>>332388648
>you will never impregnate a qt and actually have her happy that you did so
>>332388295
it's more like the movement has not standards and they would rather eat themselves than try and define what the cause across the board. not surprising given the current state of things.
>>332388648
>We just happen to hear the loudest most obnoxious ones like Anita who think a good looking woman cannot be a fundamentally strong and exemplary feminine figure
Anita is a funny case, because she is actually an old school 2nd generation bitch and her ideas are, academically speaking, painfully obsolete. It's rather painfully obvious that the reason why she went into gaming journalism was PRECISELY because she is actually very poorly educated and had virtually no options to actually do academic work.
That said, here is the kicker: it does not matter if you are extreme sex-negative 2nd generation or open-minded mild third generation: you are wrong. While Feminism itself is splitting multiple different branches, generations, and multiple levels of extremism: they all have one thing in common: they are wrong and absolutely misguide, dumb, dangerous and profoundly fucked up. Every single one of them. Feminism is WRONG, and the shades of fucked-up-ness it comes in are really largely irrelevant.
>>332388295
It's actually a paradox they live with - the individual female feminist wants to be considered attractive by heterosexual male standards- but not by heterosexual males.
The individual female feminist also does not want any other females (feminist or not) to be considered more attractive than her by male heterosexual standards and will attack any insitution, organization, culture, meme, ... anything - that "perpetuates" this standard.
The individual feminist wants to be considered sexy, beautiful, desired. Feminism as an organism doesn't want anyone to be considered sexy, beatiful or desired.
There is a whole lot more to it but... in a philosophical sense - at least as far as self esteem is concerned - modern feminism is literally cancer - eating itself and hating itself at the same time.
>>332387329
and the sjw it panders towards will still not purchase it, so they gain nothing out of it.
>>332378290
What a pathetic way to retort to all the fire.
>Everyone likes the pose
>One guy makes a post about he don't like thing
>"Don't worry we'll save you from the bodyshaming pose, I'll vanquish it for you m'lady"
>Everyone across the internet states the nonsensical nature of removing something people liked to cater to a microscopic minority
>Polls have come out with thousands of people for the pose
>"It was just a prank bro, I'm not pandering to one person, I ALWAYS wanted to do this and I just so happen to be revealing the big news right now, coincidentally"
What the hell is shrinking Blizzard's dick?
>>332378997
>>332389116
Well, this is what you inevitably end up with when your ideology is based in a profound intellectual dishonesty. This is not the first time we saw something like that either.
Start with the wrong assumption and it does not matter how much intellectual work you have done, you will eventually end up with a moral contradiction: and once you reach that point, you'll turn into a vile person.
>>332378290
>Why don't game directors have any fucking backbone when it comes to defending their product?
Developers do not set policy.
>vowed not to buy censored products, no matter what is being censored
>Really wanted to play Overwatch after enjoying the free weekend
Fug, do I have to go back to TF2 now?
>>332389448
Now comes the real test. Hold fast, or play video games?
Thank god you can't rotate the camera, as then EVERY POSE would be sexist, you could always check their b-b-b-bbutttt or -t-t-t-t-t-tt-ttttits!!
>>332389448
didn't they censor Widowmaker's ass expanding already a while ago
>>332378652
>unless you get exactly what you want.
oh the irony
Worst part is, now they've given an inch, retards will expect a mile. I hope Blizz has fun with hundreds of legbeards crying about Widowmaker next.
>>332378290
That's a reasonable response. I don't agree that the original pose was really sexual, but the game isn't finished and I think he explained himself well.
>>332384863
>They did pretty much fix Diablo 3.
Still missing 70 gameplay mechanics that Diablo 2 has.
>fix
>>332390247
jeff please, try to sound not so obvious next time.
>>332379669
>>332390563
At least the PS4 version is the best version
>>332390619
How?
because "gamers" are pussies
>Kaplan forced to work on a shitty shooter
No wonder Blizzard is in the fucking toilet.
>>332378652
>conspiracies
Such a meme word. Most people simply arent capable of understand simple politics. Saying that 9/11 was an inside job always had ground because it was just WAY too convenient for the US government. People who claim that it was arent nut jobs, they migth simply be able to think a few steps ahead.
Its the same here. Corporate politics in this case.
if they didn't want tracer to be sexy then why did they design her ass and clothes like that with her pussy jumping into my face
not that I care though, but it proves the guy is full of shit and on damage control
she also has an audio cue where she speaks the line "check me out"
LOL
>gay
>guys in sexy poses will never ever be censored by the SJW menace
Feels good to love cock, man.
>>332391010
don't worry anon that's just the male power fantasy :^)
>>332390653
Because it's #4ThePlayers
>>332378290
Don't buy the game. I mean, nobody should be buying fucking Blizzard games as is but this is just more reason not to. Vote with your wallet if you want to stick it to this SJW faggot.
>>332391315
>oklahoma
>>332391240
It's my fantasy alright.
>>332390581
thanks for this site
>2016
>Caring or trusting what Blizzard says.
>>332391372
>not getting triggered by musicals
I wonder how many faggots get retroactively triggered by Avenue Q
>Overwatch
Phew, for a second there I thought something of value was lost
>>332389305
fucking neofag
>>332391010
>He doesn't know
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/03/22/nus-tells-lgbt-societies-to-abolish-gay-mens-reps-because-they-dont-face-oppression/
>>332392405
I fucking love horseshoe politics
>>332392468
horseshoe Politics?
>>332392405
And then they wonder why so many gay men are becoming right wing. This shit right the fuck here. Feminists get a strangle hold on the "LGBT community" and decide gay men don't measure low enough on the sacred privilege totem and then turn everyone else against them just like straight men.
>>332386663
He recanted that in less than a day.
>>332378290
How do you people give this mich of a shit over something so trivial versus the glaring game play issues. What happened to video games
>>332392610
>segregation is bad
>40 years later
>we need safe spaces for only PoC and women
>>332392610
Not him but horseshoe politics is the idea that the farther you go on either extreme the more similar you start to become. For example, if you heard someone calling black people colored, saying they should have their own separate spaces, shouldn't race mix, and should preferably go back to Africa most people would assume the KKK but this also applies to black supremacist groups.
>>332392916
What are the glaring game issues? Too many classes to balance?
>>332392405
What bullshit. Not only do women have more rights in most countries but they're still the ones who have more protection when it comes to discrimination.
Thankfully that's just a nobody organization but still they're full retard.
>>332378290
>consider playing this game because I need a new FPS since tf2 went to shit a few years ago
>see this
The search continues
>>332393159
>character no longer pises with ass out
>fuck this game is ruined forever
Kek
>>332378652
>conspiracy
just like the patriarchy then
Old Tigole would have posted on the forums to mock her
What the fuck happened to Blizzard
i just refunded origin edition overwatch
hopefully voting with my wallet helps
i dont care about the pose, but they will do this with a skin down the line
woah that devil mercy skin is objectifying women
i can see it now
>It's only artistic integrity when it's a change I like!
>>332381267
by people you mean one person
>>332393320
They'recorrupted
>>332378290
Because if he stands by his word, he will be fired after twitter mob raids his employer(Blizzard) e-mail with accusations.
Remember that guy who joked about dongles?
He might be a weak willed motherfucker though, I don't see any defiance in him, Ithink he likes to take it up the arse judging by several posts I saw.
>>332391010
I guarantee if it were a guy who went through this kind of pose removal there'd be no one here complaining too.
>>332392918
We live in hilarious andsadtimes anon
>>332380751
Old Blizzard would have done this
The HOTS team might still do something like that thanks to Samwise, but he would probs get fired after
>>332378290
> Writing something like this
Some people really have no shame
>>332393557
>I guarantee if it were a guy who went through this kind of pose removal there'd be no one here complaining
>there'd be no one here complaining
>on /v/, the gayest board on 4chan
you stupid nigger
>>332393694
>memes are facts
You the true stupid nigger.
>>332380751
>based jeff
this really is a hypothetical fantasy right here
>>332393650
Old blizzard wouldn't do shit. Take off your nostalgia goggles fag
>>332393782
>he legitimately thinks /v/ isn't gay as fuck
Have you been acting gay ironically and thinking the other fags here were too?
>>332393430
I don't care about artistic integrity. I just want SJWs and 3rd wave feminists to stop polluting video games with their retarded feels over reals sex-negative agenda.
>>332378290
Its time to spam sensitivity and mock offense taken to every single aspect of a game. This tactic needs to be used against every developer who bends over to sjws.
Write 3 page diatribes why having an animal be killed in the game is supporting cruelty to animals.
Write rants about the promotion of gun violence.
Write heartfelt paragraphs on why certain poses and actions remind you of an abusive father, the holocaust, apartheid and other trauma.
This cant be a one day or week outrage, the spam has to happen non-stop till the cancerous sjws are ignored with the rest of us.
>>332393937
Oh yeah you can tell it definitely is by all the bara and husbando threads that go to limit oh wait no they dont they're gone in a matter of minutes. Waifuism and lewdposting is way more rampant.
The only way that's ever been true is with shit like traps which may actually be partially ironic on their part.
>>332394021
And I want people to stop polluting /v/ with /pol/ memes but that ain't gonna happen either
So when are they are gonna censor alexstraza & ysera
you know it's coming
>>332378290
It's literally their job to bend over and take it in the ass from every customer
>>332386412
How about a non violent game?
The story thus far:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26lD6Np5KfI
>>332378290
Some devs have backbone and the sooner you learn to stop caring about developers you don't like the sooner you'll start enjoying life.
Find the stuff you like and ignore the stuff you don't. There are thousands of developers out there now and if you can't find any you want to support then what are you doing on this board at all.
Just stop whining about people doing things you don't like so much.
>company releases their product in a beta test
>a test designed to get consumer feedback and tweak the product accordingly
>they receive feedback and make changes that they were already considering based on said feedback
>this is apparently an outrage, censorship, SJW-facism, and/or whatever other buzzwords /v/ feels like spouting today
>>332386513
WHAT
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>>332394412
>blizzard
>listening to feedback
Only if it's good for PR. Like this will be once Gawker and the like sell it as saving wymyn and crushing those goobly gooters.
Good old /v/ and it's constant ignorance as to how game production actually works.
The faggot did a terrible job with the trite forum post, but this shit explained it a lot better.
The pose was clearly something on the chopping block in their development. Likely cause it's kinda a bland pose (so is most of the "looking back" poses like Mcree's).
They just wanted to get fan opinion on it before going forward with it.
Frankly, they really shouldn't remove it if it's a pretty popular pose within the beta, but if it was just another pose until someone brought it up, I can see them being like "Okay, some people agree, let's to the other pose"
If not for making changes, both to game balance AND to the superficial aspects, what's the point of having a beta like this?
I want to see what this new pose is now, especially since it sounds like they were giving it thought before this was even brought up.
But just cause they went "Yeah, we thought this pose kinda sucked too and plan to change it" doesn't mean they're bending over to SJW cock. It means they didn't like the pose much to begin with and just wanted to hear someone other than themselves say it to finally cut it.
Happens all the time in development. Just check any of those "How's your game coming" threads and you'll see tons of
>How does this look?
>I don't like X
>Ah, yeah, I thought X seemed wrong, I plan to change it.
>>332394412
Same thing happened with Mika.
Honestly the lesson here is more like to have developers stop doing open betas.
>>332380812
jesus fucking christ
