>start playing Souls games with SotFS
>think its a pretty good game
>apparently /v/ states that the zones are poorly designed and the mobs have tracking that is 'too good'
>finally decide to play DeS and DaS because they are apparently much better
>both are a bore because of how much easier they are
I finally understand the whole '/v/ is bad at games' thing
>>332347553
Wow, anon. You're so contrarian and cool! You stick it to those silly /v/irgins with your edgy opinion.
>>332347553
Why did you make this thread? This "dks2 vs rest of series" shitposting has been done to death.
>he thinks the souls series is about difficulty
You are fucking retarded
>>332347762
>/v/ thinks liking a specific game more is a quality worthy of labeling edgy
>>332347553
>>332347928
>mfw OP is probably the kind of person that loves the PREPARE TO DIE bullshit marketing that Bamco has been pushing
>>332347553
Wow, Such a original comment!
Here's you (you)
>he fell for the souls is hard meme
Damn OP you are one stupid motherfucker.
>>332347553
Wow anon, how do I grow up to write cool blog posts like you? You must get all the pussy in the world.
>>332347928
>>332348105
>>332348156
where did I say that souls games were hard?
>>332348246
In your original post you dumb dumb. Are you illiterate as well? ROFL
>>332347553
I always felt DS2 was harder, but for all the wrong reasons, and I started the series with DS1. Never understood why people think the first game is harder.
>>332347553
Once you play any souls game the rest are all infinitely easier because you are used to the formula and understand the mechanics.
>>332347553
>NG+
>most likely has over 50 ADP
>LOL LOOK GUYS IT'S NOT SHIT
>>332348323
maybe you would like to quote where in the OP that I stated souls games were hard?
>>332347553
The first Souls game you play will always be the one you remember as being the most difficult.
>>332348508
No thanks. Use your brain you fucking moron.
oh boy I can't wait for /v/ to spend another 300 posts talking about how much it hates DS2.
>>332348494
>not level Strength and do shit damage
>not a valid reason to complain about Strength being broken
>not level ADP and have shit dodge
>also not a valid reason to complain about dodge being broken
>>332348580
:^)
>>332348782
>implying STR and ADP are comparable
>implying the latter should even exist
Thank God for DaS3 removing that fucking stupid piece of shit stat.
>>332348642
How can it begin If it never actually ended?
Das II sucks though, the adp stat is retarded and game breaking. Both at low and high level.
And don't even get me started with the rest of the gameplay.
>>332348963
Ok I won't even get you started.
The first Souls games you play will always make the other ones easier. I played Demons first and breezed through 70% of DaS wondering when it'll get hard. Then after 2 games of training, DS2 was a fucking cakewalk. No memeing, I died 4 times not counting PvP.
>>332349140
oh my god you're so good at games.
how many neckrolls do i need to reach your status?
>>332347553
So your saying we never finished Dark souls 2 SotFS?
Funny I remember passing it a few times just because it was a filler
>>332349072
That's not how it works
This is some high level bait but...
>>332347937
>I finally understand the whole '/v/ is bad at games' thing
>not edgy
>>332348508
>>both are a bore because of how much easier they are
>much easier they are
>easier
>easy is the opposite of hard
These were done to death, also, so let's at least discuss the retarded release dates of Namco when it comes to DaS3
>out in japan two weeks earlier
>preview access for 1/3rd of game for streamers
>LOL JK full game access actually but a bit later
>buying on Xbone's JP store gives you the english version
>game is very clearly finished
>don't release it earlier anyway
>>332349140
Seriously go get some sunshine before you fucking kill yourself.
No one gives a fuck.
I'M SICK AND
F U C K I N G
TIRED OF YOUR GODDAMN BULLSHIT /V/
THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DARK SOULS 2
NOBODY OUTSIDE /V/ PARROTS THIS """"EPIC""""" MEME
STOP PRETENDING IT ISN'T A GREAT GAME JUST BECAUSE IT ISN'T YOUR FUCKING GOLDEN GOOSE PS3 GAME OR THE OVERRATED FIRST GAME
THATS RIGHT
O V E R R A T E D
DARK SOULS 2 IMPROVES EVERYTHING ABOUT THE FIRST GAME'S GAMEPLAY AND YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES WON'T STOP MAKING FUN OF IT
GET THESE FUCKING MEMES OFF MY BOARD
>>332348539
Nah Demon's Souls is the hardest
Who is HYPED for DaS3 for the PC?
>>332349560
Shitposting is against the rules, anon.
>>332349467
keked
>>332349467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UScsme8didI
>>332349467
You had me up to
>STOP PRETENDING IT ISN'T A GREAT GAME
Because it is a good game, just not a good Souls game
>no real reward for staying light weight, no reason to not wear as much armor as possible up to the fat roll threshold
>iframes tied to a stat
>shockwave meme, but also almost every grab has a completely fucking retarded hitbox
>cannot escape grabs early
>soul memory
>fall damage changed to flat damage instead of % based
>enemies pull as groups even if you shoot one from range
>>332349467
dude it's just a video game. Like...go take a walk, nigga. Or get a soda or some shit. I mean, I ain't sayin' you're mad or shit, I'm just sayin' it's a nice day for a walk and
yo
your postin' some shit right now, I ain't judgin, but, hey, dude.
>>332349467
No, dark souls 2 is trash.
The only good thing was rolling to all directions. And even the rolling animation is dumb.
>>332347553
>Dark Souls 2 is hard
Fucking kek, you can start every single fight with full HP, I'd hardly call that challenging
>>332349560
No its not. Half the bosses die to a single Firestorm.
>>332347553
Here's the problem, OP.
>SotFS fixes a lot of the problems with the initial release
>Most of DaS2's issues lie in the first segment, with the experience generally getting less shit and more enjoyable from the halfway point onwards
>A lot of people are now bothering to go back and play/finish DaS2 with DaS3 on the horizon
The combination of the above 3 points mean that people realise that DaS2 wasn't actually the devil incarnate, but is instead a lot of mediocrity. Which means
>OH MY GOD /V/ YOU WERE SO WRONG LOOK AT ME WAVING MY DICK AROUND IN YOUR FACE SO YOU KNOW HOW WRONG YOU ARE
>>332347762
>literally unironically buying into the B-team meme
>>332349631
First game I've ever pre-ordered. beyond hyped. been checking for a cracked early pc release about 5 times a day
>>332349649
>please tell me what my opinions are Matthewmatosis!
>>332349385
>much easier they are
>easier
>easy is the opposite of hard
What the fuck is this shit?.
>>332349385
At least the japs and streamers are testing the game for us.
That way we can play it fully patched and with proper nvidia drivers.
It's pretty much the only reason I'm not really disappointed with this situation.
>>332349281
Maybe like 1 but I don't think it's noticeable.
>>332349457
I'm outside right now.
I shouldn't have included that second part of my post to not trigger insecure anons such as yourself.
>>332349640
>>332349726
sorry let me rephrase: demons souls is hardest when you dont use magic. at least that's just what i've found
>>332349385
Not him, but you do realize that easier doesn't imply that that the other game was hard, right?
>>332349838
he is right on a lot of points in it though. just because i didnt make the video doesnt make what he says in it invalid
>>332347553
just because it makes it more difficult doesn't mean it's good design you mouthbreather
>>332349929
>tfw they will only patch the JP version
>tfw they will patch the NA/EU one later
>tfw will release with all the initial bugs
>tfw always behind japs by one patch
>>332350083
His points is invalid right at the get go where he bitch about the undead gender when the game pretty much explained that the character initial gender does not matter because of the Effigy.
He also stated alot of questionable opinion on a lot of matter.
There's a reason why this is THE only vid where people like you think his opinion matter.
>>332347553
why are you pretending you arent using a hack to have god mode/infinite health?
>>332350224
>doesn't realize that the difficulty comment was referring back to the tracking
>calls someone else a mouthbreather
lmaoing at ur like kid
It's only difficult because you already know how to play
>>332350246
DELETE THIS
>>332349649
>Critiques a trailer.
>Too retarded to handle multiple enemies.
>Like Dark Souls more then Demon's despite inferior gameplay.
Made it 6min..
>>332350345
Even with those you still get hit, just don't receive damage.
>>332350387
>game gets harder the better you get at it
How would that even work? Not being a smartass, but how could someone come up with a game that does this? I don't mean "harder"
>>332347553
>eh argues about which souls is best
its like fighting about whose shit stinks least
The tracking problem more comes from enemies having pinpoint accuracy and your character behaving like an arcade character from the 80s. Especially if you come from bloodborne where your dude actually does what you want him to most of the time.
>Roll
>Attack
>Your character slowly, painfully, attacks in the direction you rolled, not towards the guy you're locked onto and are moving the joystick towards
>Die as a result
>>332347553
the reason you like DS2 better is probably because you have a hard on for artificial difficulty and le "dark souls is so hard prepare to die XD" meme
DS2's levels are terrible and the enemy placement and selection is next level garbage. they overload areas with multiple high poise enemies which are virtually impossible to effectively deal with. at least in BB and DS1 whenever they would throw a bunch of enemies at you they would have next to no poise.
it's a poorly designed mess of a game
>>332350676
>Your character slowly, painfully, attacks in the direction you rolled, not towards the guy you're locked onto and are moving the joystick towards
Only great heavy weapons have this trait and it was intentional.
>>332349731
I wouldn't even say it's mediocre unless you were a blind DaS fanboy.
DaS3 is looking to being fucking GOAT and it's taking quite a bit of mechanics from DaS2. Can't wait to play it so I haven't watched any streams yet except for the very beginning with the snek fight.
>DaS2
It's not even bad it just can't hold a candle to DeS or DaS, has some interesting lore though.
>>332350676
>>Roll
>>Attack
>>Your character slowly, painfully, attacks in the direction you rolled, not towards the guy you're locked onto and are moving the joystick towards
>>Die as a result
Did you play Bloodborne first or something? I've never had this happen and don't see how it would unless you started to spam attack before the roll was finished or without turning to face the opponent after the roll.
>>332350246
>>332349929
PC is releasing the same time for the Japs and us. They just have their console versions earlier (PS4/XB1).
>>332350321
whether or not it's explained the introduction is retarded. why even give you the option of choosing a gender when the game decides you're a male from the start
>>332350321
i feel like you watched maybe the first 5-10 minutes of it and dismissed it because you WANTED to like DaS2, not because you actually did like it.
The gender point is valid as the effigy is androgynous but the player character is definitely male at the start of the game. It was a stupid choice on the developers side. What other of his opinions did you think were questionable?
>>332350693
Dark Souls also loaded tons of area with multiple enemies and shit.
But hey, its ok if Myazaki does it.
>>332348146
>heres you (you)
heres your (faggot)
>>332350693
So pull the enemies one at a time? The only time I can think of where they really tried to force enemies on you was before the three sentinels.
>>332350512
The amount of enemies on screen at once at points in DaS2 was frustrating. As he said in the video, the camera is designed to lock on to one enemy at a time, and the enemy placement in the game completely goes against that. They tried to emulate DaS and make it more difficult by throwing more enemies on screen without adjusting the mechanics of the game to accommodate that.
>>332350951
Fuck me sideways it just keeps getting worse
>>332351085
>It was a stupid choice on the developers side.
Why? Like that Anon said: effigies.
>>332351076
That is where you are wrong.
You can only choose your gender AFTER you get the Effigy.
You don't get to choose from start.
>>332351527
then who the fuck were you at the start
>>332348407
Finally, someone who fucking understands this
>>332351085
Not him but a few minutes into the video and right off the bat a ton of his critiques are a player issue: he plays with lock-on all the time like a retard.
>>332351718
xir
>>332351364
>adjusting the mechanics
They actually did adjust the mechanics by allowing you to sprint while locked so you don't have to trade off accuracy for mobility, but still, why should they adjust the mechanics to make crowd control easier? The entire point of the series is to be wary of your surroundings so you always have the upper hand, and most gank encounters that come to mind have ways of dealing with multiple enemies via the environment or basic AI manipulation. Gank encounters themselves have always been "unfair", but there's nothing inherently frustrating about them.
>all these people who can't read
nowhere in the OP did it state that souls games are hard
>>332351718
Somebody who lost everything about him/her, even his/her physical appearance.
Read what effigy actually does.
>>332348494
do you.... not level up in rpgs?
why do we have this thread every fucking day
>>332353168
because people can't handle one kind of difficulty after getting adjusted to another
>>332349678
I agree with you about some of the stuff, but that last one...
>*THWICK*
>"Hey man, Bill got shot."
>"So? He's going after the bastard"
>"Shouldn't we, idunno, help?"
>"Na, m8, he's got it"
Even with animals that shit doesn't work in real life.
Question
Can you keep the Kingdom key and the Cure of the Undead (never going hollow again) to NG+ or you must get them again in that play through?
I kind of want to upgrade the key sword but I am guessing you lose it once you use it, and I want to stop depending on fucking human effigies every time I want to PvP
I've had to stop turning human and being able to invade just because I'm running low on effigies and must get through an area before I can get to that particular place I want to be able to invade in.
If I hadn't saved one while going through Drangleic Castle, I wouldn't been able to bring FUN to all those people doing Looking Glass Knight.
>>332355661
just host fight clubs on the bridge, when phantoms kill each other you get free effigies. You'll have dozens in no time.
The King's Ring and the buffed crowns reset on NG+. You keep the crowns but they don't have the anti-hollow effect anymore.
>>332353168
autism
on the part of the OP and the people who respond every day, as if their magical insights will forever solve the quandary of the endlessly repeating repost.
>>332349678
>people still think soul memory was a bad thing
only people who preyed on newbies cared about this
>>332350842
This shit happens to me all the time with Estoc. I can never land a rolling Estoc R1.
>>332348580
>>332349385
Holy fuck are you both dead from the neck up?
Easier doesn't at all imply he's saying that the game was a hard game. It means nothing more than what it literally states. He could think the game is easy, and still that the other 2 are even easier.
Fucking idiot.
Please tell me they did away with the no respawn mechanic.
Farming low drop rate items was already a nightmare in DS1, they just had to fuck you more in DS2.
>>332349467
Thank you anon, I've been battling depression and your joke put a smile on my face
>>332356583
in ds2 you could just join hard mode covenant to get around that
>>332349350
lol
>>332349743
>meme
>Just git gud!
Dark Souls 2 is probably the easiest of the series though. You constantly have an absurd amount of healing items and outside of the DLC most bosses you'll likely beat first try. The fact that it's a mediocre game by any reasonable standard is pretty independent of its difficulty.
>>332347553
Since you were too young to be here: there was a hullabaloo when DS2 released.
Between pic-related, soul memory, (there was no fucking ring for a year & a half), and other design bullshit, lots of anons got ass-mad and swore off the game.
SotFS just took the same game and shoved 2-3x as many enemies into it, which did nothing to redress people's grievances.
>>332358234
You gotta thanks MIyazaki for pic related.
He was at helm for almost a whole fucking year before he was removed and replaced by Shibuya.
The game at that point is salvageable and Tanimura were brought in to essentially create a new Dark Souls game from scratch.
>>332352191
Yes, it's so very fun running circles around a pack until they decide to swing at the same time. Throne washers was such great fun, and oh so engaging. Or pressing r2 with a halberd and then equipping the next one because it's fucking broken. That's also a good time. Or using a strength weapon and just slamming people into the ground as they approach for the entire game. Totally doesn't get old.
>>332353168
Souls' fanbase quality took a nosedive since 2012.
>>332349631
For the first time I care about a souls game, really hoping the weapon skills make it more fun.
>>332357998
>>332351364
Do you think it's unfair when another monster comes while you are hunting in MH?
>>332347553
Legit question tho, thinking about playing sum dark souls, anyone plays it with keyboard+mouse?
>>332349936
Rekt
Das 2 is bad is a meme. I played das 2 first then das1 and I love em both. People who played das 1 first got used to it and thats why 2 felt like no challenge to them I think.
>>332360902
Yeah DS1 had some pretty terrible hitboxes for some enemies. Mostly the grab attacks in my experience.
DS2 had terrible hitboxes and tracking for every enemy. On every attack.
>>332360902
Way to fuck up the webm at the most important moment.
>sparks no more than a foot away on the ground
Almost looks legit. Fix your webm.
>>332362350
It really is a good game. If it hadn't been released as a souls game nobody would have batted an eyelid and it would have been forgotten about six months later like LotF or Dragon's Dogma. But they named it as a successor to two /great/ games and it simply fails to live up to their legacy.
>>332362664
It's the character's hitbox not matching up to the character model during rolls, mostly. That and overhead attacks, those are just plain fucked.
>>332349457
>>332349281
Holy shit you faggots, did he touch a nerve?
Did you think you were hot shit for beating DS2 first & finding DS1 not very hard afterwards?
Fucking kek you fags.
