Was anyone else a little disappointed that vergil mode was just him running through the same 20 levels dante did?
>>332319609
I wasnt really expecting anything new so no not really
Only autists were expecting completely new levels
>>332319609
If they were new levels, I'd complain that I couldn't play those levels as Dante when it'd be as easy as writing a single line of code.
>>332319609
It would have been fine if it was at least the same levels in a different order.
That's exactly what I expected though.
>>332319609
No one plays anything but bloody palace debug mode anyway.
same levels doesnt matter at all
but same enemies all over again
thats disgusting
>>332319609
I expected him to have like just 6 levels of his own and the rest would be recycled
>>332319609
I didn't really mind for the most part, Vergil was fun as fuck to play as. Maybe having a few extra levelsor a secret battle against Munduswould be neat, but like >>332320025 said people would be annoyed about levels being restricted to one character only. So maybe after you beat someone's story mode, those levels unlock for all characters or something.
>>332319609
I was more disappointed with Vergil in DMC4.
You know how you play through with Nero, and then you get Dante.
You basically play the game backwards with Dante in the same levels.
So with Vergil, you play through the game.
Then you go back and fight the same damn bosses again in reverse order.
He was fun to play as, but holy shit.
That was retarded.
>>332321221
again what were you expecting
The alternative would have been what DmC did, giving him a tiny as fuck unique campaign. I'll take the retread, gameplay is what we're here for and going through 20 of Dantes offers more than going through maybe 7 of his own, if not less
Post webms.
DMC is getting dioramas.
>>332323474
>>332323474
>>332323765
Isn't it like 1500 bucks for the full set?
>>332323932
I think it's possible. Ryu's 1/6 scale diorama cost $350
The new cutscenes that they made for him in the beginning gave me some false hopes, but it was pretty much what I expected. The only thing that disappointed me was seeing the Vergil fights replaced with... Vergil in a red coat. It's like that they acknowledged that they probably SHOULD have bothered having you fight Dante, but decided not to anyway.
>>332324221
>DMC4 Dante vs DMC3 Vergil
They really need to give him a new design in the next game.
>>332319609
It was a bit disappointing but also not too surprising.
If they ever remake the game, I do hope Vergil gets his own campaign, where I can fight Dante canonically for once.
>>332324221
That's pretty damn nice
>>332323474
>>332323765
>>332324221
FUCK, I want these but I have no money.
Also,
>DMC4 Dante against DMC3 Vergil
wat
>>332320328
Which is the main problem with the series. I always thought it was weird, especially DMC3 on, that you have this expansive combat system, but are limited to replaying the story(which is fine, granted the game is short) or just fucking around in bloody palace.
Everythime I mention multiplayer in DMC, everyone wants to sperg out about it. Oh no, lets not innovate or try to move the series or even the genre forward. No, because everyone knows the next entry is more than likely going to be rushed as fuck again, so just give us everything we're already familiar with.
>>332325049
It's based on DMC4:SE appearances.
>>332324637
I do hope they give him a business suit, like in the DMC1 concept art or even his design in DmC.
Shit, Idk. Just something that were new and original, but still 'Vergil'.
>>332325140
I get it but it's not really canonical either.
>>332325235
>>332325347
Something smooth like that would decent. Not like the chaps and belt overload with Uncle Dante
>>332323474
>dmc 4 dante vs vergil
>>332325235
If he shows up again, I want him to be all fucked up.
>>332325113
>makes a good point
>then invalidates his opinion by proposing to add multiplayer in a fucking DMC game
One job.
>>332325424
>Not like the chaps and belt overload with Uncle Dante
Yeah, I was never one for his design in 4.
Speaking of, I hope they improve Dante's design in 5 as well. Nothing has come close to his design in the first game yet.
>>332325494
I always wonder what Vergil would look like if he ever came back. I wonder if he'd look like Corrupted Vergil?
>>332325691
Upper left's hair, corrupted Vergil's crazy veins and shit, 3 Vergil's general outfit but all tattered with just the vest.
Personally I liked Dante's design in 4. If you've seen the concept art, the belts make sense for what they're doing.
>>332326015
>3 Vergil's general outfit but all tattered with just the vest.
Nah, Vergil's the type to get himself a new outfit after he comes back. Dude's all about class and shit, he couldn't be caught walking around looking like that.
First thing that nigga would probably do is get himself a new outfit after coming back.
>>332325635
>opinion invalidated
hah. The games practically play like a fighting game as is. I don't even think there's a well done 3D fighting system yet, but I can see the potential here. Wouldn't you want the ability to test those skills you've honed against actual players?
Would basically be MVC3 in 3D space.
And why the fuck wouldn't anyone want co-op?
>>332326220I actually agree with you.
Is Nero's DT stand Vergil? This is one thing that has bugged me since release. If so, I don't really understand how they would go about bringing Vergil back, other than just to fuck around and play with.
I always figured Vergil became a Devil Arm, much like other demons do when they're defeated. Except since he wasn't full demon, we got this spectre shit.
I wanted more cutscenes, but it's fine either way.
If you expected new stages you might as well have called it a sequel.
>>332326192
Yeah, but I figure the next game wouldn't just start with him already there. It should be about him coming back.
Maybe at the end you unlock a completely new outfit.
I was disappointed that DmC:DE managed to include a bunch of retardedly simple but great features like "No S rank No Damage" mode and disabled BP timer and DMC4:SE just completely neglected them.
>>332326638
Apparently 3's Vergil face model fits his DT face.
>>332326638
Nero's ghost is what his own DT would actually look like. It takes elements of Nelo Angelo and Vergil's DT because of Yamato, the same deal as DMC3 where your DT was partly determined by the weapon you were using.
>>332326638
Was going to say, "No," but honestly I kinda see it now.
>>332326687
DMC isn't the type of thing that explains that shit though, for the most part.
>>332326848
Eh, DmC had some decent ideas I guess.
>>332325635
His whole post seemed like shit to me.
Add more challenge modes, a practice mode, instant character switching perhaps, on top of a new completed game with maybe two different campaigns and we're golden.
>>332326848
All the budget went to characters, not features.
>>332326220
People say it's stupid because the combat in the main game would obviously suffer through trying to make a balanced versus mode.
Plus, people already think that it'll be another half-finished mess. They don't want development time that's likely to be limited to go into something other than the main campaign and core gameplay.
>>332326220
Because Ninja Gaiden 3 was shit, God of War Ascention was shit; maybe it's time to accept that these kind of action games don't go well outside of the single player.
I'm all in for the next game letting us play with a buddy in Bloody Palace, but outside of that, I would hate the idea of DMC with multiplayer.
>>332319609
No, I wasn't disappointed with that in DMC4SE either
>>332326220
>The games practically play like a fighting game as is.
Hell no, it doesn't. You'd have to sacrifice or change things to make MP work, ruining SP in the process.
>And why the fuck wouldn't anyone want co-op?
And why would you? To interrupt each others combos and make the game easier? It's not suited for co-op either.
I get it, you just don't like DMC as it is. Then please, play something else and fuck off with these random ideas.
You know what would actually be a neat addition? Character swapping in real time + moves executed by both characters together.
>>332327446
Didn't Bayo 2 have multiplayer?
>>332327067
It isn't? That seems like exactly the kind of thing to base a game around.
I mean Nero was a completely new character that came out of nowhere, but at least he wasn't a character that people thought was dead. You can't just have Vergil be there without explaining it.
>>332326638
Nah, it's his DT, not Vergils ghost. Nero being Vergil's son and being the host of Vergil's soul would be too much.
>>332327636
Tag Climax is basically bloody palace and a boss rush with a partner. It's not necessary to change anything in the main game to enable, and the dev time was probably very low.
>>332327535
>I get it, you just don't like DMC as it is. Then please, play something else and fuck off with these random ideas.
>posts his own random ideas
lel
>>332327195
>All the budget went to characters, not features.
We're literally talking just playing with numbers here, and not in some greater fashion either. You're not making new assets or altering existing content.
Can't have taken much of an effort.
>>332327636
Yeah, and it was a very well done challenge mode which makes you fight in small rooms full of enemies or bosses, to see who scores the most points.
Actually, I wouldn't be mad with that approach either. But it's just as this anon >>332327887 said.
>>332327918
>an obvious and natural extension of the game's mechanics - wich the Capcom team already has experience doing - is the same thing as a fucking multiplayer mode
>>332328105
Your idea is lame anon. DMC isn't Basara and doing character switching would take away form the depth the characters have individually. I wouldn't purchase DMC5 if they did that.
>>332328234
>implying
>>332327535
Nigga you could get some pretty crazy tag team combos.
>>332328447
Great rebuttal anon. You sure showed me how doing character swtiching wouldn't take up already used up buttons without making it awkward through obtuse inputs or lowering the amount of options you have with one character.
>>332327918
Not so random. "EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLAYER JUST BECAUSE" is as random as it gets. While character swapping is something that came up in my mind for DMC specifically. It would make for much more variety in combos and allow some unique duo moves. And characters for swapping are already there. It would also allow for higher skill ceiling.
>>332328632
Not him, I just wanted to remark that you would be getting the game anyways.
>>332319609
Absolutly, its part of the reason i didnt buy it.
They could have easily used existing assets in the game to just copy and paste to make new areas and so forth, but we got typical lazy ass good for nothin' capcom.
And these neckbeards are actually excited for
this so called DMC5 project they are apparently working on.
Its ok they will be all hype at first like they always are ad when the game is released and has dlc and easy mode casual difficulty, they will hate and shit on it just like the bitter neckbeards that they are.
>>332327535
I don't think there's enough buttons left on the controller to be able to pull something like that off. DMC pretty much uses all of them
>>332326993
I've wondered why he his dt is a ghost and not and actual transformation like usual. Is it because he's only 1/4th devil, or is the dt yet incomplete?
>>332328738
automatic mode has existed for years within the franchise.
>>332328234
How could that possibly take away from each character's individual depth?
It's basically the best way to give the game the most depth as possible without doing shit like applying Dante's style system to everyone or trying to give him like eight styles at once.
Fuck, people are already working on modding a system like that into DMC4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6V_HEV8Yc04
Imagine stuff like tag combos and taunts on top. It would be fucking insane.
>>332328817
That's a good poing, yes. I think there's at least one left though.
Shit, why do modern controllers still lack rear buttons?
>>332328738
>easy mode casual difficulty
DMC already had that. How is that bad anyway?
>>332328861
The only one who plays like dante is trish
>>332328849
I think it's because he wasn't powerful enough to take it at that point. Maybe in the next game he'll get a full one, it would make for a good "DT awakening" scene that's in practically every game.
Realistically it's like that because they didn't have time to make his full one.
>>332329171
Someone who is only one fourth demon should not have a full DT. That's retarded
>>332329274
Says who? Hes got a full demon arm, might as well give him a full DT.
>>332329074
But Trish barely plays like Dante? She only plays as much like him insofar as every character plays with similar concepts like combos and ranged weapons.
Anyway, they wouldn't need to play the same in order for character switching to be a thing.
>>332329074
I suppose it's no coincidence then that she's best girl.
>>332329407
First we need the explanation on how his arm ended up like that in the first place. All we know is his shoulder was injured, and something regarding that injury caused the change.
And of course there's the voice echoing about power.
>>332329428
Her move set is a mix of rebellion and Gilgamesh
>>332329768
And Pandora.
>>332329813
That's just her gun I was talking when she uses Sparada is rebellion then her fists are gilgamesh.
>>332329171
I hope he gets a full one as well, I like to think he hasn't fully awakened yet. Maybe it takes longer time/more power to get a proper dt as the devil blood gets more diluted
>>332329768
Most of the animations are the same, but she doesn't really play like Dante.
Anyway, I don't get your meaning.
>>332329735
They gave the basic rundown of what happened in the game, in the manual, and again in the book. I don't know what else needs explaining.
Unless you think he was possessed or something, just assume that his power awakened in the heat of the moment.
>those moments in PxZ2 where Vergil figures out that he'll become Nelo Angelo
Sad.
>>332331426
Link or pics? Haven't gotten around to getting PxZ2 yet.
playing as him was so fun that i didn't really care
>>332331531
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DGWsEIusJE 45:15
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TWP0NBpE7I 32:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oD9F7zSqoY 1:37:19
>>332332554
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