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Two weeks until GOTY comes out

What class is everyone playing?

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>>332307358
I wish I could roll knight but use the herald's set, it's so fucking great.
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>>332308012
Don't worry, you can get the Herald's set quite early.
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>>332307358
I want to do cleric but Herald seems cool as fuck, and easier to roleplay a paladin it seems.
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>>332308012
s a u c e y
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I'm not entirely sure yet
Thinking about going with Knight or Herald, or maybe Mercenary.
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Going Knight. Dark Souls has a fairly unintuitive system where Knight doesn't have the stats or gear I want to have but it has combined the fewest points put into stats that I definitely won't be using, and therefore will be optimal for the build I end up creating.

Picking a class based on how low the stats you don't want are rather than how high the stats you do want are is stupid. I wish they'd change the class system, I'd almost prefer a point buy system where your class just determines gear instead of stats.
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>>332307358
Guys.

What's luck?

What does it do?
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>>332308623
Probably increases your dropchance.

Maybe it does have an effect on backstabs or the game has critical strikes.
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>>332308618
Thief is also tied for having the least amount of Int/Faith, but has a slightly higher luck, but has a lower soul level for a higher degree of customization later on.
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>>332308623
Drop rates and such. It's returning from Demon's Souls, largely irrelevant for most players and builds but will have its uses.
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Probably Herald.
Love spears.
Hopefully they make them a bit better this time around.
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>>332308424
Mercenary has great DPS when dual wielding.

>>332308623
Boosts your item discovery, bleed scaling, poison scaling, and there's an infusion path that lets your weapon scale with luck.

Item droprates in this game are absolutely atrocious and are Korean MMO tier without it. Beat the game, respec into 50 LCK and then farm for everything you want, then respec back.
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Rolling Deprived here with a quality build. I love starting with nothing, and having to use what bits of equipment I can find as I go. Quality so I can try out as much as I can my first run. It also typically has the side effect of making things a tad harder and thus, extending the length of the run, so there's that too.
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>>332308618
I like the point system cause it makes it easier to feel class difference on second playthroughs. It just makes it hard on the first playthrough when you don't know what build you want yet or the stat requirements for that cool weapon you get 20 hours in that you didn't know you wanted.
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>>332308848
Let's all cheer for the return of the Blueblood Sword, ladies and gentlemen.
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>>332307358
I like the look of Assassin since I love thrusting swords, but I wonder if the high soul level would gimp me. Utility spells are always nice too.
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Going Merc first run because I always run DEX guy first playthrough

>people actually care about minmaxing on their first playthrough
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I've only got manus, gwyndolin and gwyn left, but I just want to keep playing pvp, but I also want to finish the game before das3
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Quality build as a knight with 50 STR for the Fume UGS
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>>332309089
this

Going Herald because I always run Melee+FTH first.
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>>332309239
>Fume UGS

I hope you're aware you're just going to be using the same meta weapon as literally everyone else? FUGS is the new lightning zweihander.
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Pyromancy is overpowered as fuck in DS3, by the way. I had fireballs hitting for 700 damage midgame while any other weapon or spell did half that much or less.
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>>332309321
What makes you think I give a fuck?
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I think I'm gonna roll knight, I've always gone with str/fai builds for my first build but I also kinda want to do a dex/fai build, at least at the start. It'll probably turn into a quality build either way, so I'm wondering which road I should go down.

I wonder how Astor's Ring and Butcher's Blade Stack up, I was actually thinking that combo alongside Replenishment might be fairly strong. What do you guys think?
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>>332309396
Probably because it scales with 2 skills.
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>>332307358
I'm probably going herald, I always go STR/FAI the first playthrough, and I usually use heavier armor, so it seems perfect.
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>>332309397
I think you're just a metafag who looked up what the best weapon in the game is and planned to use it just like everyone else.

Cancer, basically.
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>>332309479
I don't even play PvP
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>>332307358
pyromancer looks great in this, compared to the stoner sage type look pyromancers had in DaS 1
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>>332309454
Nah, a Pyromancer with 25/25 Int/Fth hits much harder than a sorcerer with 40 int
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>>332307358
What's VIG and ATT?
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>>332309515
Sure you don't. You just found out what the best weapon in the game is, then found out what the best build in the game is and coincidentally decided to do both of them.
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>>332308012
>>332308139
Why is /v/ so crazy about the herald set? It makes you look like a fuccboi.

Oh wait that's exactly why /v/ loves it.
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>>332308885
this. fucking this.

not knowing how much minimum dex you'll need when you're stuck with a shitty weapon and you don't know when you'll get the next good weapon so you end up wasting a lot of first playthrough resources upgrading your shitty stock weapon.
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>>332309612
vigor = hp

att = mana and spell slots
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>>332309612
>VIG
HP
>ATT
Focus, used for magic, and weapon arts.

>>332309635
Fuck off back to /fa/ you gothninja piece of shit.
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>>332309612
vigor and attunement?
awoo
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Did Hexes make it back in?
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>>332309726
does dex int or fai increase mana?
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>>332308754
Knight is SL9 with 98 stat points, 25 of which I don't care about.
Thief is SL5 with 94 stat points, 32 of which I don't care about.

Thief has more points in stats I'm ditching and the extra 5 Soul Levels in Knight are fine because they're already effectively in stats I intend to raise further. I have no intention to invest in LCK on my first run sticking to items and possibly gear if I need to boost it. So I'm rolling Knight.
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>>332309796
I'm pretty sure they're just miracles now
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>>332307358
I wanna roll dat Mercenary for the glorious armor, but also want to run with two handed weapons.

Without specifics, how early can you snag the armor set?
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>>332309738
>>332309726
But isn't VIT hp?
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>>332309612
Vigor is the primary health stat and Attunement is the stat that gives you spell slots
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>>332307358
>still no necromancer
the game is shit
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>>332309796
It's more like in DaS. There's Dark Sorceries, Pyromancies and Miracles, but there's no dedicated Hex school. Dunno if there's explicit Dark resistance.
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>>332309552
Assuming you pick the appropriate class that's 18 levels either way.
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why should anyone not running knight?

he has the lowest luck value.
and sorcery and miracles without meele gonna suck hard.
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>>332309930
Vitality is now the equip load part of endurance from DaS1, basically how it works in 2
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>>332309951
>wanting summoner meme classes
Just watch Pewdiepie if you want someone to play the game for you.
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>>332309726
>>332309612
>>332309941
then what's the difference between vigor and vitality?
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>>332307358
Deprived
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>>332307358
At a glance, merc looks like it has the best stats for the kind of character I usually play in Souls games (dexfag), so I'll go with that.
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>>332307358
>can't choose between knight or mercenary

Fuck you for making all the starting armor sets so fucking sexy From.
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>>332310003
But Sorcery and Miracles both have a melee class.
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>>332309796
Yes, but I haven't seen anyone using them. Here's how magic seems to be right now.

>Sorcery
Shit, people are complaining it does literally no damage.
>Hexes
A middle ground, not shit, but not great either from what I've seen.
>Miracles
Almost totally support now, with some cool as fuck offensive skills.
>Pyromancy
The most powerful of the magics, does the most damage and has the most lenient stat requirements.

Keep in mind that people haven't broken into magic and min maxed it as hard as melee as of yet.

>>332309930
Vitality is the new dump stat as there's nearly no difference between light armor and heavy armor. The game uses Dark 2's approach to armor, unless you're using the heaviest set in the game, you'll likely notice no difference in defense. VIT is only useful for STR players with heavy weapons.
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>>332310064
>summoning a skelebro to fight with is the same as watching a video
you're retarded
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>>332310064
>He doesn't want an army of spooks

I don't want summoning in dark souls either, but not wanting an army of bones is pure faggotry.
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>>332309738
Griffith go to bed.
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>>332309813
no. dex is cast speed and int/fth are damage
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>>332310215
Does it have the awful iframes system of DS2?
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>>332310240
Just summon a player?
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>>332310168
If it's anything like the other games, it won't take that long to get the other starting sets
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>>332307358
Gonna be a mage first playthrough no doubt. Soul dart looks fun af and this game has some cool af spells.
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Knight - Best all-round melee, might respec between STR and DEX

Merc - Best for DEX

Warrior - Best for STR

Deprived - Best if you seriously don't have a clue if you're going melee or magic or ranged and want to keep all your respeccing options open
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>>332310317
No imagine the defense system of 2 where armor doesn't matter, with the rolling system of DeS and DaS. There's no reason to use heavy armor in DaS3 unless you love how a certain set looks. Poise doesn't exist, only hyper armor now.
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>>332310390
Knight is the best starting class for any non-magic build.
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>>332307358
Why's this Cleric faggot wearing a turtle shell like he's master Roshi or some shit?
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>>332307358
>2 weeks

I already beat it twice. Dark Souls 3 is old news m8.
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>herald
>spear and heal
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>>332310326
you can't trust a player as much as you can trust a skelebro also you could give orders to the skelebro meanwhile players are retarded
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>>332309905
Cleric it is
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When I preorder that from the PSN store, can I only download it at 0000 on the day it comes out or beforehand and the last few MB at the day it comes out to play right away?
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>>332310240
>straight to namecalling when someone disagrees
All you necrofags are the same
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pyromancer ofcourse
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Playthrough 1 is always pure melee guy so I'm going Knight.

Second playthrough is usually paladin girl so Herald.
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>>332310482

This. Now we make wishlists for Dark Souls 4.
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>>332309479
Maybe he just likes the weapon because it was sick in DaS2 you ugly retarded faggot
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>>332307358
Anyone notice how the pyromancer looks sorta like Gwyn??
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>>332310564
Dark miracles are all stupid gimmick shit, if you wanna approximate Hexer you're better off going Sorcerer with enough Faith for the pyromancies.
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>>332310537
The summoned NPCs have proven time and time again they're retarded too anon.
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>>332309635
looks better than the beer belly the knight set gives you
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>>332310730
One of the few blessings that came out of the PC version of DS1.
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>>332310685
>can't come up with anything else
>"w-well y-you're mean y-you're all the same :("
fucking paladins i swear
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>>332310808
>a big ass scythe spell that heals you is stupid
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>>332310473

It's better for dexterity melee, but Warrior has fewer wasted points for a strength build by having very low attunement.
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Merc because I finally want to use a katana in a souls game. Seeing that fucking Iai stance did me in, I gotta have that shit.
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>>332310815
they just follow you around but as a necromancer you should be able to give the skelebro orders and that would make it still usefull
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>>332310873
>get called out
>"b- better just c- copy what he did"
Typical.
Did you have your skeleton type it out for you too?
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What's the name of the katana faggot camping outside firelink shrine?
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>>332310919
It is
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>>332310993

Fucking weeaboo.
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Knight set + shield up + straightsword of choice
like always
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How long does it take to find the Merc armor? I want mace and miracles but goddamn that sellsword armor is nice
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>>332311039
Do you have any actual reason for saying that?
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anyone know if KB&M is viable in DS3? I have a controller but if it's good i would prefer KB.
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>>332310673
Anyone?
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>>332311060
Sword and board all day erry day.
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>>332311063
You go
Lothric->Settlement->Road to Sacrifice and you can get it there. It'll probably take you a couple of hours.
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>>332311015
>beign this edgy
>get offended by anything
>can't understand a simple sentence
average palading fuck off
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>>332311182
You can generally pre-load on PSN.

No guarantees though, especially with Japs.
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>>332310801
Or vendrick.
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I'm gonna miss being a broccoli headed ayy lmao from bloodborne
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>>332311058
Nigga I've used straight swords/greatswords/crushing implements for four fucking games now
Used the based DBS over lmao2kat in DeS even though the latter was retardedly overpowered
Never touched the uchi or washing pole, and even avoided the Chikage on a fucking Bloodtinge build in Bloodborne
Let me have this
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>>332311291
>fetish for dead people
>calling others edgy
Once again necrofags show their true colours.
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>playing anything besides deprived
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>>332308623
In Demons Souls there was a sword that actually dealt more damage based on your luck stat so perhaps luck might scale some weapons.
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Question: does the game actually explain how the different covenants work, or do you have to google it like DS2?
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>>332311519
This

I rolled deprived this weekend, you can get a lot of really good gear early on in the game.
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>>332308852
Huh. That actually sounds kind of fun for a first play through. I might try that. Thx anon.
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I always play sorcerer but lots of people are saying its weak. Looks like i'll be a pyromancer this time around.
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Any word on what this wonderful sword requires to use?
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>>332310240
I think necromancy is awesome. Id personally love being able to summom skeletons to fight stuff for me. Itd make the game easy but theyre skeletons. Come on.
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>>332311447
>liking something mean you have a fetish
>not wanting a skelebro to sit with you near the fire
>not wanting literally the comfiest creature on the planet to help you
>beign this much of a lightfag
go back reading your holy bible you fag
this shitty website won't let me post anything for fuck sake i had so many smug skeletons
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>want spear
>dont like herald set

I will just go with knight then and hope there is some spear early on like winged spear in das1
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>>332311790
God forbid Sorc be a challenge for once, right?
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Is there a benefit to playing deprived or is it just a new challenge
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>>332311885
18 STR 20 DEX
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>>332311885
18 str, 20 dex, scales with dex more than str.

its not very good, its tokyo drift moves are highly impractical and with how hyper-armor works heavy weapons are pretty ass in Ds3
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>>332312008
Thanks!
Any idea what it's called, anon?
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>>332311665
PvP is jank. No point in min/maxing anymore.
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>>332311519
Is deprived the same as DaS where it had a bit more in point allocation? If so then I'll roll it again
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>>332312029
Tell me more about this hyper-armor.
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>>332311990
You start at level 1 and can decide how you wanna play. Deprived can turn into any class. Basically most people use it to min/max
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How much weapon and armor variety is there in Dark Souls 3? Im assuming more than bloodborne but what about Dark Souls 1 or 2 cuz those games were loaded with weapons. So many weapons.
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>>332311980
>"mean name mean name mean name"
>"you're lucky I can't spam my meme folder I have saved for when I'm triggered"
>mfw necrofags expect to be taken seriously
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>>332311990
>start with even stats
>no bulshit OP gear from the start
>you have to scavnge for your own gear instead of having top tier gear right form the beginning
>RP an undead who rose from nothing to everything
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I think magic is weaker to make up for the fact it's not charge-based anymore. I'm just spitballing, but it seems the ideal way would be to crank up dex and get multiple shots in instead of one big hit. Thrown on a dex weapon and upgrade it so it benefits from int to mosey up-close
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>>332312029
Hyper Armor is shit now? Damn shame it's das2 all over again
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>>332312202
Hyper armor basically means you are unstaggerable. So while casting a miracle with weapon art you cant be staggered. Or at least not easily staggered. I dont know the specifics how itll work for Dark souls 3 but i know that hyper armor is basically just "you cant be staggered by conventional means".
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>>332312226
>>332312278
Makes sense, thanks
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>>332311954
>be a necromancer
>summon 2 other necromancers
>each one summon 2 skelebros
>you now have 6 skelebros and 2 casters
>watch them annihilate anything
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>>332312226
Deprived is actually rarely ever the best choice to min-max for any build
It'll almost always have a few more wasted points than another class. Deprived is the ideal pick for first-timers who don't know how they want to play, since it can easily grow into anything.
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I rolled a warrior first. Stuck at the third boss right now
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>>332312202
Just about every enemy in the game takes around 2 hits, then goes fully hyper-armor to swing at you. So if you don't kill in those first two hits your going to take a hit or dodge and with how heavy weapons eat stamina half the time you are near dry to roll.

I have found extreme success with a regular old battle axe, it staggers the same, does around the same damage and takes way less stamina and has less recovery frames.

On the bright side heavy weapons aren't an instant win like in the other souls games.
>>332312351
No I meant that as in ENEMIES have hyper armor. You do to but a lot of enemies just flat out ignore your hyper armor on normal swings, weapon arts have true hyper-armor though so you can just eat right through their swing.

Heavy weapons suck boys.
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Want to make a build that utilizes bows enchanted with Sorcery, so going Sorcerer since the stats are a bit better than thief's for what I'm going for.

What class would be the most ideal for someone using cestus or just fists?
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>>332312092
Farron Greatsword
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>>332312272
>get mad when someone does what he's doing
average palading everyone
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>>332312487
>>332312390
This has been very informative. Thank you.
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>>332307358
Knight is the undeniable best choice.

Herald is a little faggot, people are blinded by his flashy cape and pretty decent spear.

Deprived are those weirdos who love fun. You literally cannot be mad at them.

Others are pretty good, altough warrior gives a shitty DaS2 feel.
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I'm gonna go balls to the wall

I'm going to play a Thief and primarily use my bow
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>>332312421
Spooky souls.

Also, yeh itd be op but knowing Souls the skeles would last like, 30 seconds, do damage based on your faith or int, require a nearby corpse to summon one, and die in a few hits.
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>>332311885

Dex
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>>332312558
>copying me again
Average necrofag, ZERO Z E R O originality.
>just muh skelepies will play the game for me
>muh pewdiebones will wipe my ass for me
>type muh posts
Do you even have the muscles to lift a finger?
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>>332312615
> that image
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>tfw Fume UGS lost 130 base damage and S scaling
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knight

its all about the spreadsheets
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>>332312438
How is it rarely the best choice? You can min max extremely easy by not dropping a million points as most classes do in stats you don't believe you'll need. Deprived is also not for first timers. It was considered the best option for DaS again due to the point allocation but anyone who played it and never played a souls game had a hard time throughout the burg and other areas until the drakesword showed up
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>>332307358
Herald is cute! CUTE!
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>>332312531
Warrior is obviously the best for fisting. Fewest wasted points in those useless magic stats or Dex, which Cestus traditionally require very little of to use.
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>>332307358
Sorcerer with a build focused on my weaponfu, the MLGS
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>>332312615
It's been so long since I read that shit.

Bow bros for life. What side weapon are you using if you're choosing to? I haven't really decided, but I'm thinking a dagger or something for quick stabbies
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>>332312624
honestly it's not viable on a dark souls game but
>skeles would last like, 30 seconds, do damage based on your faith or int, require a nearby corpse to summon one, and die in a few hits.
this would be a great necromancer since it would require you to keep killing enemies instaed of just summoning an army
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Fem pyro or knight.

Also how's everyone's roll playthrough going?
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>>332312924
Yeah. Thats why i said it. Haha. It still wouldnt be the most viable though. Would be fun af.
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>>332312820
It's rarely the best choice because of it's even stat spread
If I'm min-maxing and making a character that isn't ever going to use any magic, why would I ever pick Deprived over Warrior, which has 7 less points wasted in Faith and Int and Attunement?
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>>332312971
Lemme just roll real quick.
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>>332307358
Deprived first and NG+
Knight second and DLC
Thief PVP (you just need to roll and backstab anyway)
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>>332313060
but muh deprived is best for minmaxing because I can't do math meme
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>>332312971
Gotta roll.

Dis gon be good.
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>>332312971
roll (might actually replay it)
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>>332313106
>you just need to roll and backstab anyway

>He thinks you can consistently BS people in DaS3 pvp
FUCKIGN
KEK

People can literally WALK out of a backstab attempt lmao
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>>332313218
Why wouldnt you replay Dark Souls anyway? Ive played it through like, 40+ times.
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>>332312615
Thanks now I'm hard
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>>332313083
Gonna reroll for something that isn't fucking stupid
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>>332312971
>Attempt to play DS again with a build on my PS3
>That pvp

I forgot how prevalent lagstabbing and backstab fishing was in this game and the overabundance of Giantdads and GS users.
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>>332310467
>Poise doesnt exist
No, no don'T tell me that actually fucking removed poise.
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I wanted to make a spell knight but these builds are always terrible in Souls and finding swords that scale with both str/dex and magic are rare or found at the end of the game.
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>>332313218
Ok, I'm going to play it: never used a whip, it's going to be a good challenge.
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>>332312971
Rolling, need to replay the game anyway, since i forgot most of it
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>>332313060
I guess I'll have to see what the SL meta is going to be to really decide myself. But it makes sense since I'm certain some weapons are going to require bs stat investments
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>>332312971
On my way to Blighttown
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>>332313341
We DeS now!
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>>332313330
Never dies.
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>>332308852
>pick up full set of armor off one corpse

Whew lad, just piecing together as I go
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>>332313341
Oh poise is in the game alright, for enemies. There are enemies that can poise through an UGS 2HR1 and smack you for half your HP.
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>>332310467
Except defense makes a huge difference
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>>332307358
It's the same class. It's the same slow circle then attack roll roll pattern.

You faggots will end up using the same build and the same cheat program(non console).

Then you'll make endless threads about the game with the same git gud.

This game sure does bring out the most pathetic cucks and basement dwellers to spam this stupid martian religious board
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>>332312790
it has it fampai
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>>332313521
>and the same cheat program(non console).

Meanwhile there's been a cheat engine for PS4 going around for more than a week.
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>>332313506
Except it doesn't. The difference between Havel's and the Sorcerer's set is like 5-15%.

That's at least 25 points of VIT just for a less than 20% defense increase. Heavy armor is literally worthless.
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>>332313446
I wish it did.
Been sick of it since the Havelflipping days.

>Havel armor patch
>Can no longer flip around with the wood ring
>Happy as fuck
>Giantdad alternative manifests
>It's even more obnoxious because of the taunting and the low cost, high reward build

Even after the lightning element and GS speed nerf it's still strong as fuck and overused.
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>>332313424
Well, it's not like Deprived is a bad choice, either. The difference is usually only around 1-5 soul levels saved by picking the 'ideal' starting class instead of it anyway. It's not too likely to break your build.
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>>332312785
>everything i say it's copying
>can't come up with anything else at this point
>repeating the same thing over and over again
>keep posting meme
>beign this assblasted
how mad does it make you knowing there's a skeleton inside you?
as i said, average paladin everyone
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>>332311587
There's actually a "luck" enchantment now. You can change any weapon to scale off luck instead of its default scalings.
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So are bows viable as a main weapon now?
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@332313521
No
YOU don't get to have my (you) fuck off
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Probably Herald. I'm going for a quality build with spears, dual wielding, etc. Also bows.
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Knight for a quality build.
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>>332313708
Newfag detected
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>>332313596
shit meant to post this one
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>>332313696
In pve sure, but in pvp you'll just get blocked, or people will stand behind something.
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>>332307358
>GOTY 2016
>lore that sounds like it's out of a B-list anime
>Bloodborne leftovers and an entire area that is literally a chalice dungeon
>50% of the game is re-used assets that are awkwardly thrown in to pander to fans
>Colorless and uninteresting visuals
>Most of the bosses are DkS2-tier big guy with sword
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deprived rapier flynn leo
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>there are people who don't always pick deprived for their first run
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>>332312487
Soooo basically even the simplest of enemies can do a hyper-armor swing and even if you are Havel you cannot stagger them?
That kinda sounds like bullshit
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Please dont tell me havels set is in again. I will cancel my preorder no joke.
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>>332313434
currently in my first playthrough and I'm trying to find blighttown

I was in the sewers and fell down somewhere an got cursed and now I don't even know what the fuck I'm gonna do anymore since I'm just wondering around trying to not get killed by ghosts in new londo ruins
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>>332313674
>not knowing what is and isn't a meme
>that wall of text
>'u mad haha"
>necrofags

Daily reminder you'll never be in Dark Souls.
I won this before it even started.
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>>332313664
FUCK man you got me wanting to roll Knight now but I always feel like an even spread saves me drama in the future gonna have to see the weapons to truly decide
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>>332313596
Is critical just the backstab/riposte +damage? What weapon types have the highest/lowest critical? Same as DS2?
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>>332312227
>he thinks DaS and DaS2 had variety
Literally every weapon in a group had the same moveset except for like one or two gimmick moves.

There might as well have been like 30 weapons total.
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>>332313891
>there are people who give a shit what class someone chooses in a game where starting class means nothing and a respec option exists
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>>332314003

Das3 does not have a respec option.
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@332313785
Thanks for the (You) champ!
Next time make better bait ;)
unless you actually responded unironically in which case YOU are the newfag
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>>332314053
>spreading misinformation
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>>332314053
Yes it does.
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>>332313912
It's in, but isn't worth using as it's heavy as fuck, doesn't boost damage reduction enough, and poise doesn't exist.

>>332314053
>he doesn't know

Jesus, kiddo, I've played the game and respecced multiple times.
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How viable is Sorcery in DaS3?

>DaS - it was totally viable as long as you had a melee weapon for certain situations.
>DaS2 - absolutely useless with all the best spells being nerfed. Had to rely on fire weapon up until I got the MLGS
>Now I'm hearing sorcery in DaS3 isn't worth it
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>>332312971
I'll roll
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>>332314053
There's a covanent called rosasomething fingers that allows you to respect 5 times you troglodyte
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>>332314216
Respect who five times? Do you get something for giving someone all that respect?
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>>332314148
>DaS2 - absolutely useless

Did we play the same game, anon? Magic was still pretty strong
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>>332314148
Sorceries don't do Nuke tier damage but they don't have limited casts and they generally cast significantly faster, plus you don't have to stop moving completely to cast (similar to Health stones in DS2). So it's completely viable.
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>>332313443
DeS didnt have poise? Cant remember
>>332313503
So you dont have poise then, still shitty
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>>332314280
Tablet spellchecker is a bitch
Respect matters though
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>>332307358
I've never ever played an INT build in a souls game, so I might go assassin or sorcerer.

Is it even fun and is melee/sorcery better than pure sorcery?
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>>332314346
Nope, DeS only had hyper armor.
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>tfw pvp in DaS1 is dead
>tfw you have to wait at least an hour to be summoned in DaS1
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>>332312971
Rollan for undeadan
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>>332313925
>reminder that you'll never be in dark souls
i'll never be in any game for that matter and a necromancer in dark souls would be shit i literally started this whole thing to get someone mad
to get back on the topic
>keep doing the same thing i do
>complain when i do it
>cry when get insulted but keep insulting
paladins are literally the class for 10 years old kids who think beign the super hero of light it's cool
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>>332314395
>Is it even fun and is melee/sorcery better than pure sorcery?

My best builds (DeS and DaS respectively) were melee/sorcery builds that fucked up people in pvp. I usually just buffed my weapon or relied on my high INT to amplify my enchanted weapons for big damage without relying too much on spellcasting.

A bow that did magic damage and special arrows and the mother fucking SHOTEL enchanted to do extra damage while I R2 assholes through shield negation.
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>>332312589
You got it
>>332313910
Its on average 2 hits then they decide to slap your asshole. I mean the positive is they finally got around to balancing heavy weapons, the downside is they pretty much invalidated them.
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>>332309626
It's almost like it's good for both multiplayer and singleplayer, and quality builds were broken as shit in DaS2 as well. Why are you such a baby over how other people play? I'll probably never even encounter them in your entire life.
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>>332312971
rollinglllhgffddtrdtrdt
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>>332314523
Are you sure you aren't in the wrong level range?
Forest PvP is still pretty alive
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>>332314523
>tfw pvp in DaS1 is dead

I had no issues playing PVP/Co-op in DS when I turned on my PS3 last week, and on PC it's still alive and well.
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>>332314148
From what I've seen (no firsthand experience, mind you), it does poor damage, but is generally viable and has more fun, flexible spells. The FP system also means that spells that aren't Soul Arrow or Spear are actually usable now. Just don't expect to nuke down bosses in <30 seconds anymore.
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>>332314646
>Shotel
Killing shield fags through their guards with it and then getting rage mail calling me a hacker just never got old
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>>332314523
No it isn't. Did you forget how fucked up the DaS peer system is? It takes like an hour to connect to other people's clients consistently. It's really active on weekends though.
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>>332312971
Roll.
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>>332313596
>Everything about DS2 never mentions a name or has any lore besides "they were forgotten"
>Everything from DS1 mentions name and has lore that is more pieced together
I mean yeah, DS2 was disappointing but the DS1 pandering in 3 is really too fucking much.
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>>332314776
Is there a good image or source for the level ranges on all or certain systems for DS? I usually either find no one or find too many people to invade me.
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>>332314654
>>332314654
So even one of those giant weapons requiring 40 str cannot stagger a simple uundead at hyper armor?
They cannot be this dumb, it's gotta be fixed.
But again they made DaS2
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Who cheat engine here? Day 1 will be hilarious. I have 7 other friends ready to fuck shit up with super casting speed and infinite health.
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>>332314286
>cast time ridiculous for some spells unless you have the speed ring
>you're a sitting duck waiting for a spell to cast in that time
>very limited amount of spell casts compared to DaS1. Was barely fixed by Hex Hood and rings
>Soul Geyser nerfed to hell
>High level spells like GHSA doing the same amount of damage as one swing from a fire longsword even with absurdly high INT
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Cheapest place to pre order for PC?
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>>332314821
Too bad it's not as viable in DS2 as it was in earlier games. Is it in DS3?
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>>332307358
The Knight of course. It's practically a tradition.
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>>332313920
Hang in there anon. New Londo Ruins are for later if it's your first time. Go back and explore the sewers.

Remember to keep upgrading your weapon. It's more important than leveling.

You can also get to Blighttown early through NLR if you took the master key gift.
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>>332314963
They can. Hyper armour is effectively just temporary poise, some weapons have more than others.
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>>332314963
They stagger the first two hits but if you haven't killed them with that they are going to swing through whatever else you throw at it.
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How is faith?
Never tried it before in all souls game, usually run STR first then DEX

I want to be a big priest with a hammer
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>>332315130
As long as they will fix this bullshit, I am ready to trust From again
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I've never played a pure int caster in the souls games before so I'm considering playing one in 3 to try something new.
Can it be fun? I might run through DS1 and 2 as a sorcerer real quick just to get my feet wet.
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>>332315109
>>332315130
WHICH ONE OF YOU IS CORRECT
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Will the covenants be good this time?
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>>332307358
Mercenary or assassin. Gonna dex all over the place.
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Warrior because it has the least trash stats out of all the classes, don't care too much for magic, miracles, and focus points
And I know weapon arts use FP, I just don't think I'll be using them very often
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Who hassans here anon?
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>>332315318
Play through as a pure Dark magic + pyro caster
Embrace the cancer
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>>332312971
roll kinda wanna play cleric
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>>332315345
Both, neither statement invalidates the other. You have hyper-armor but so do enemies. It just comes off as bullshit when the enemy uses it and when you use it you still take damage.
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>>332315345
Depends on the STR weapon youre using, the FUGS for example has insane hyper armor on its WA. Enough to poise through nearly everything.
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>>332315221
I always make a big, jolly friar as my first character and do a lot of co-op
Faith is probably as solid as it's always been, especially with the Blades of the Darkmoon coming back so you can presumably get Darkmoon Blade again.
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