Started playing SFV.. Lost every match online. Are some people just not made for fighters?
I want to die.
What controller and character?
It's just a hard genre to get into
I picked up SF5 as my first fighter too and I've played about 30 hours and I'm still only about 1500-2000 LP in the ultra bronze range. Maybe look up some basic tutorials and it's a good idea to stick to one character you like instead of spreading yourself too thin
you'll definitely lose a lot in the beginning
>>332283979
An actual baby beat the game OP. You must be incredibly shitty.
You gotta practice. How long have you been playing fightan gaem?
>>332283979
>Started playing SFV.. Lost every match online. Are some people just not made for fighters?
>Started playing SFV
You expect to win knowing nothing?
>>332284095
>beating a fighting game
lmao
Learn your fundamentals mastering that 60% combo doesn't do shit if you can't land it in the first place
>>332283979
This is normal if you new to fighters. It may take you months before you git gud. Don't give up if you want to be good!
Standard DS4 and Rashid.
I will practice some more... Figured I might lose 50 before I even get a chance. Didn't think I would suck this much though. The matches aren't even close against rookies...
Why the fuck are the servers shitting themselves when the maintenance is in 10 hours? Fucking Capcom.
Is the Qanba Q1 a good fightstick for PC? Costs half as much as the Hori ones and seems to be more or less the same.
whens the patch
>>332284256
Sorry, 5 hours.
>>332284235
Rashid is hard for beginners. Might aswell wait for the patch later today that teaches you some basic shit.
>>332284269
Yes it's good, I have it and it's really great for starting. It doesn't look like really high quality, but it's absolutely worth the 80$/€. And even if you want good parts later you can just unscrew the box and switch whatever you want to switch, from buttons to stick, maybe even the PCB, but don't quote me on this one.
>>332284235
Just means they know things you don't. Good news is anyone can learn those things.
You should stick to training mode, casual matches, maybe some battle lounge, until you are more comfortable with the fundamentals. Dont head straight into ranked, youll get owned.
>>332284568
not like it really matters. points are meaningless to beginners and you can't go below 0. rookie players are just flat out terrible in general and it doesn't matter if you're playing them in ranked, casual, lobbies or what not.
The best way to learn effectively and fast is to watch pros and play with them if you can. You can learn to play properly by jumping in blindly but you will take way more time than someone who watched a shitton of good matches (the "good" is an important part) and played with good people
>>332284327
The patch is today? I thought they said wednesday
>>332284997
Divided in two parts.
Today we get all the single player content, rematch on ranked and 8-man lobbies.
The 30th we get Alex and the FM shop. The Zenny shop won't be available for a while.
>>332283979
Just keep trying. I'm awful as well but you've gotta start someone. SF5 is my first fightan game and I think I've only managed to win 3 casual matches so far. Your attitude is what's most important.
>>332283979
No one is "made for fighters", some people just put in more work than others.
If you wanna git gud then play more, there's no secrets, only practice.
Practice executions
Learn from your mistakes
Anticipate your opponent's moves and punish them
Learn your character's AAs
Learn your character's basic confirm combos
How do I git gud with Chun?
>>332285371
anticipate is more advanced. Beginners should just think of AAing and punish mistakes first.
There's no secret, only practice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
What's a good low investment fight stick for a new player? (PS4)
>>332284139
thats the problem with this game, there are very few newcommers to the game
so people that just started playing see this huge gap in skill
>>332285928
I use a fight commander, not really a stick guy
if you can find the mini hori stick, get it
>play Ken
>people everywhere start hating on him
>decide to pick up Necalli
>train my ass off
>watch replays of best Necalli players
>get destroyed
Nah, I'm going back to Ken.
>>332285928
Just read the thread you will find your answer
>>332287397
>changing mains because people don't like them
Are you a retard
>>332285530
A lot of characters are easy to predict so it's not really that hard, I mostly mean the initial few seconds
>>332284095
on the easiest difficulty setting against bots
not online play
>>332287483
Ken had a really bad stigma on launch. People would just DC on you before the battle even started.
>>332287539
Well it was just Birdie's story mode.
When I started playing fighting games about 1,5 years ago I spent about 100 hours in training mode to practice execution in USF4 and watched dozens of jewtube tutorials before I ever tried to fight other people
even then it took me 12 games before I won one
>>332287601
Yeah and it has been the case since forever
>>332283979
it took me like 300 games before I started beating anyone in SF4
look at some tutorials or something...vesper arcade is working on his SF5 one now
>>332287601
Ken has a stigma forever because retards pick him up because he's the "cool" shoto.
Who else Jap voices here? Especially love F.A.N.G.
NIKANKYAKU
DOKU DESU YO
SOTOJA
TORI NI NARU NO DA
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE
>>332284093
>only 1500
But that's very good I'm only on 600
>>332283979
The update that goes live "today" should include in depth tutorials.
One thing you should consider OP is looking up certain things online.
Googling/Youtube Searching "Rashid Bread and Butter Combos" will show you the basic chains of moves people do, along with showing the inputs that they require.
Then, once you have a minor understanding of those basic things, go onto the Capcom Fighters Network and look for the highest ranked Rashid player in the world, and watch his most recent replays.
Take note of how he defends, where he tries to position himself when the enemy is playing defensive, etc.
As for Rashid himself, using his V-Skill makes you jump, but you can also do a special Eagle Spike right out of it using a kick.
LK puts you close to where you started but HK can put you on the opposite side of the enemy, leading to you hitting them in the direction that they're not blocking [called a cross-up].
Additionally, shooting his Tornado with HK and then pressing Down+V-Skill will let you roll across the screen extremely fast.
During the roll if you hit any kick button you can get a deceptively fast kick that knocks enemies up.
If they're in the corner of the screen, this can lead to a HP Spinning Mixer for a nice bit of damage.
I'm new to the genre too but I slipped right into Rashid because he can pull off some good mindgames.
I'm still just in Super Bronze though, and points-wise, that's not very far from Rookie.
>>332287789
FANG does have a really great VA.
But you forgot the bestestMUHAHAHAHAHA... Idarou...
ARUTIMATO SAIKO KURASHAA
>>332288161
Yeah Bison is based as fuck too.
WHENS THE CUTEST
Start with Cammy or Birdie
I want to lick Ken's feet
>>332283979
Why is it when I make thus same thread about sucking at SFV nobody replies but somebody else does it gets a lot of replies?
I played more MK then SF and i switch over cause MK is garbage now.I lost 10 matches in a row how can I get good?I main Chun Li.
How does one "get" into fighting games?
I've tried before with USFIV and Skullgirls but they're just sitting in my Steam library now with under 10 hours of playtime each. I've been considering on purchasing SFV but I don't want it to have the same fate.
>>332288683
Play it with your friends or find a community it unless your infiltration that was rumored to mostly used training mode because he had no one to play with.
>>332283979
I started in IV and got rekt for the first few months. It's a steep hill to climb. But once you learn more fundamentals, the game becomes rewarding
>>332288825
No friends that play fightan games and the community isn't known to be friendly.
you have to learn to take losses. it's the only way. like, nobody is gonna remember that they bodied you, nobody is gonna shit talk you. they're gonna feel good about their win and move on. you need to learn to accept losses in the same way, learn from the experience and move forward.
>>332289147
>that move
>that sound
>that particle effect
Why is Ryu's parry so satisfying ?
>>332289360
>parry
>satisfying
I'm sure you meant EY EY EY.
>>332289858
Oh fuck off now I can't unhear
>>332283979
OP if you're still here I can teach you some basics.
>>332290015
Embrace the EY. Also stop hitting buttons.
Play Karin
You can just faceroll and win
>>332289858
yeah this shit was fun to do
same with cr.mk into super with whatever followup (usually j.HP-HP)
Alright I feel like commenting on this.
I think that the way peoples first experience with fighting games these days is to go online ranked is unnatural and kinda wrong.
Its not how people used to approach the games back then, when most either played against friends at home or in arcades.
Skill levels online are so different and so many are so obsessed with winning that the beginners wont take anything from it.
I think anybody who is new should emulate that old approach. Play against friends or other beginners, either offline or online. Dont get addicted to that stupid ranked grind.
There are tons of ircs, discords and forums for matchmaking.
Playing against better players is important, but so is playing against those who are on your level.
>>332289043
>and the community isn't known to be friendly.
what a load of shit
>>332291717
Well i wouldn't find a group of guys hollering in a corner of the school cafeteria to be too friendly.
>>332292032
You deserve no help.
>>332292032
Did you try talking to them.
>>332283979
Fang bros unite, give me pictures of fang pls. As for you OP i can give you advice on how to play fang and some of the basics but i'm still not that great either (hovering around 1500lp).
>>332285928
I use a cheap flight stick i bought at best buy for 20 bucks
Seems to work ok
What do you guys play on?
I don't know whether to play on my keyboard or PS2 controller, or to buy a Qanba Q1.
>>332292507
xbone controller
>>332292568
Like it?
>>332292718
yes it's great, ps3 controller is fine too but I prefer this one. only thing I dislike is the shoulder buttons feel weird to press but everything else is great.
>>332292836
One more Q: Do you use your index and middle fingers for X and Y or your thumb?
>>332292507
qanba stick. Im not huge on fighters but i play charge characters and theyre a pain to play on a normal controller.
>>332293127
I'm leaning towards it, if only because it's more fun. But i should prob put more hours into the game first.
Not many charge characters in SFV
/fgg/ just got done telling me not to bother with a stick. Is that really true? Is there no advantage to having a stick over a d-pad?
>>332292234
Really? Nobody here likes fang? well fuck you guys, go back to your shoto flow charts.
>>332293450
Not in this game, there are no piano inputs or a reason to plink. Maybe if you wanted to double tap but the links are 3 frames at worst, you don't need to double tap.
Think about how many thousands of hours gootecks and miek ssor put into this game yet they still get bodied on their own show from time to time from fucking online warriors. Fighting games are brutal, prepare to die.
>>332283979
That's what you get for buying the most garbage fighter ever to exist
>>332283979
the tutorial should come out today so relax
also, yes you are going to get bodied a lot. Have you played 100 matches yet? Have you won a single one?
Don't be surprised if you don't win a single one, but start playing to learn instead of playing to win, then you'll improve and gradually start winning
>>332286181
That's untrue because there are many newcomers to street fighter v and it's great.
Are you white, OP? White people suck shit at fighting games.
>>332285423
Mastrubate to her furiously and do that six times in a row in one day. Experts can mastrubate to her 19 times in a single day.
>>332294108
I don't think that's going to help me.
Are people just trolling when they say they cant win a single match?
Just using sweeps and jumping HKs without thinking should get you SOME wins against rookies.
>>332294097
This hasn't been true since beta 2. Now it's all about the lag factor and latency issues.
>>332283979
>I want to die
Maybe competitive gaming isn't for you.
>>332294223
rookies can block at least, so that won't get him through more than maybe a laggy as shit match
>>332292234
>>332293534
2600lp
Cover yourself with smoke clouds, poke with your normals and poison balls and fish for a good moment to go in and run mixups.
theres actually some good FANG tutorials that cover his basics i recomed watching
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvmzdaWxcm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6oIgI3mfTc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8kw3F81AWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnoLYRJkls4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vd3i_Mg4P_s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5uJogXK8yw
>>332294290
>rookies can block
Bro, Ultra Bronze shotos still fuck up QCF all the time. Rookies have no idea what they are doing and cant perform basic motions.
>>332292990
thumb
>>332294223
>Are people just trolling when they say they cant win a single match?
Some of it is hyperbole some of it just people having absolutely no clue what they're doing. What a lot of people in the fgc don't understand is that even if you played just a couple of fg casually in your lifetime you still have a basic understanding of a certain number of common rules that will translate from game to game, while complete newbies will basically start from zero and play like complete retards and will need a lot of time to practice just to understand things that will bring them to a basic level. That's why extensive tutorials are so important.
It's crazy that people can actually think this game is difficult.
SFV is the easiest iteration of SF in the last... forever as far as i can remember. Know how to play the metagame and it's easy as shit. This game is entirely about rushing down and maintaining constant pressure. If you relent on the pressure and let them dictate the rhythm of the match, you've already lost.
>>332294542
You . . . are not wrong
>>332294604
That's kind of crazy to me . I think fighting games starting off is incredibly basic. Here's your guy other, beat that other guy or girl up until there is no more life.
>>332294745
and SF is by default pretty complicated to get into, so it might be the easiest SF to get into but it is still fucking SF
>>332292234
Nehenehenehe
>>332283979
>I want to die.
How old are you?
>>332283979
Pick a fighter and stick with him. Everyone seems to use ken, ryu, and cammy a lot so people naturally learn what can hurt them. Learn to play rashid or dhalsim. I couldn't win with ryu, after two weeks with rashid I'm 1100 LP.
Learn to block and control the air. If you're playing a jumper or someone aggressive punish them for it. That's easy with rashid. Most people from 0-1000 play like this.
>>332295065
Not OP, but old enough to end my shitty manlet life and using video games as escapism material
>>332294604
USF4 was my first fighting game, bought it after EVO 2015.
100 hours in I had a 30-40% winrate, as there were still many other scrubs. Just blocking the most obvious slow attacks and using a slow attack in return WILL win you some games at least, its not rocket science.
"Dont get hit, then hit back when your enemy cant do anything" is the most basic concept in countless game genres.
>>332295243
I guess one less waste of space? But obviously you think you are worth more than that to think anyone gives a shit about offing yourself. So nut up and make something of yourself.I like giving motivation even if it's a bunch of bullshit false flaggers.
>>332292234
He's so handsome in the game art.
>>332295320
>"Dont get hit, then hit back when your enemy cant do anything" is the most basic concept in countless game genres.
This should be in every tutorial in every fighting game.
>>332295025
>and SF is by default pretty complicated to get into
Sure, SF is not exactly easy but to say it's difficult and complicated? Seriously, I can't even think of many games that are easier to get into than SF.
>MK
>Skullgirls
>P4
SF has always been known for having a relatively slow style of gameplay. By default, if you have a brain, you should be able to pick up on it pretty easily. especially with how much tutorials and guides that are available on the internet. It's easier to get into SF than ever before. SF is the normie casual of fighting games.
>>332295496
>SF has always been known for having a relatively slow style of gameplay
Was SF4 your first fighting game?
>>332284093
Ive been playing fighters on and off sice 94 on sf2 and various other fighters like darkstalkers, ggxx, mvc, capcomvsnk and cant break 300lp while you quadruple me on your first fighter.
Going to kill myself
>>332295496
...MK has a literal block button. What's a cross up is something you would hear only from MK and smash players
>>332295496
>SF is pretty complicated
Is this true? What are easier fighting games?
Watched some Marvel yesterday and couldnt even remotely figure out whats going on.
Whole screen is just a clusterfuck.
>>332295630
I wonder if Akuma has a crossup in Tekken 7
>>332295496
>>332295664
okay scratch that "SF" thing, what I meant was traditional 2D fighters. You know, the ones with inputs etc
Those basics are still pretty difficult for total beginners. I'm trying to be fair to the newcomers here, it IS pretty difficult when you start out.
>>332295664
Marvel is just ambiguous mixups into huge combos
>>332285423
Late but chuns kinda hard for beginners. Not much exploits scrubs can spam effienctly well to 1k. You have to play honestly with normals and nuetral game. Her combos require good execution and does like 240 and no target combos scrubs can spam while ryu has easy jump in target combo for like 250, and easy combos that hits like a truck.
>>332293534
Nobody anywhere likes FANG.
He's not a particularly good zoner, his mixups are kinda shit and the only thing he really has going for him is building assloads of white health and poisoning it away.
>>332295357
That was really shitty motivation.
>>332296424
Says the shototard
>>332296264
I've just been playing chun non stop since release..... I kinda don't want to play other characters, because she has so fucking much fun stuff to play around with.
that thing about Ryu is true though. Gotta watch out for that easy damage
>>332296583
I play unga bunga
Nobody likes FANG dude, it's just a fact.
>>332295602
You're saying its pacing is on par with other fighting games like Blazblue, Persona, Tekken, UMvC3, etc. Is SF your only fighting game?
>>332295664
Killer Instinct, MKX are some of the more recent ones that are very easy to get into. Rising Thunder is also pretty easy before it died.
Marvel can be very overwhelming for newcomers. Especially at a mid-high level. There's a lot of things going on that you have to mentally account for. But once you get used to it, figure out a decent team (or just pick up something, Doom, Vergil), it's very fun. There are a lot of resources you can look for to learn how to play it though.
>>332295982
That's only because SF is entry level fighting game. Whenever normies think of fighting games, what do you think they think of? The only fighting game they probably even know of is Street fighter. Yeah I guess if you compare it to fucking CoD or Fallout, it's pretty "difficult".
>>332296264
Well, I currently hover around 3.5k PP with her if you have any advice. I just posted that out of frustration because I haven't found an answer to deal with people going full retard on pressure.
Also fuck charge moves, I hate missing the ex sbk input and losing a quarter to half of my life to some faggot hitting two 3 frame links after a jump-in. Can't wait until I have my Ibuki.
>>332296726
>Tekken
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Your 09er is showing
>>332285096
>game is only complete more than one month after release
Why is this acceptable?
>>332297159
Not that guy, but Tekken is fast as fuck when played properly.
>>332296658
Says who
>>332297198
It's not, but at least Capcom were open about it.
>>332296726
>Blazblue, Persona, Tekken
ST and Alpha 3 are faster than any of those.
1/10
made me reply
>>332285096
We don't get the FM shop on the 30th idiet
>>332297269
Tournament participation and online stats.
>>332297246
Tekken player here, its really not.
Faster than games like SC for sure but not a fast game by any means.
>>332297432
You're just shit. You probably have poor execution, sub-optimal combos, and aren't confident in your gameplay. The gooks and nips are crazy fast at this game which is also why they're so fucking dominant. Eat shit
>>332297432
>Tekken player here
I don't believe you. I have never come across a single person on /v/ who even understands the fundamentals of Tekken.
>>332297395
If one person likes fang, your statement would be false.
>>332297560
Which dipshit thought it was a good idea to increase Ryu's damage? That's like one of the most retarded things you can do to buff a character.
>>332297743
I still remember when beta 2, 3 and 4 were out, everyone complained that Ryu was absolute shit
This post makes me laugh
>>332292234
>>332297546
Its not a very hard game to understand
>>332298076
There are better was to buff a character, than go >hurr let's just make him to stupid damage
>>332298076
Ryu shitters will always complain unless Ryu is undisputed best characters.
>>332298231
You're right, it isn't. However, the games have never had decent tutorials and many of the systems are utterly elliptical unless you actually look them up online.
The series has such a low player retention rate in the West because newbies hop online and see a Mishima hovercrafting around the arena at lightspeed and immediately say 'fuck it'.
>>332298526
True. He was pretty good in sfxt though
>>332298526
But that guy was complaining against Ryu, he's the complete opposite of a ryu player.Also fuck you, I just started learning ryu and I like him so far, I'm not a shitter
