>TOO SOON EXECUTUS
>YOU'VE SUMMONED ME TOO-
>WAIT
So what are you thinking about the new Hearthstone expansion so far /v/? Like the cards?
>>332246882
Fuck off shill
>>332246882
If that's legit that's a pretty cool card. Literally play an 8/8 and heal 8 assuming your board.
If you compare this with healbot it looks amazing. For 3 extra mana you get +5+5 and the ability to heal for 8 every turn instead of once. It can also heal itself every turn, heal a big taunt, or just straight up get you out of range from aggro and combo.
Play a real card game not Blizzard faggotry.
Horrible
>>332246882
I think the idea of the expansion has merit. But I want a Death Knight class before I start aggressively playing again.
>>332247613
>friend tries to get me into MtG
>have to sell my left kidney in order to build a deck where I won't completely crushed
hearthstone is casual but at least there's a low barrier of entry
card is shit
have fun healing a 2/1 back up to 2/2 and completely wasting the 'value' from an 8 mana 8/8
>>332246882
>that card
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 it an 8/8
>>332247613
like euchre?
>tfw all my non-michigan friends have no idea what euchre is
>>332246882
That's an early april fool's joke, right? How the fuck does this make any sense lore-wise?
>>332248823
Hearthstone hasn't been very kind to the lore to begin with.
>>332248023
You can make a semi-decent MtG deck for like $60 if you know how to budget
Sure you aren't going to win national tournaments but you'd have something that could consistently win in local tournaments or against friends
>>332248823
>lore
>game based off wow
>gets more updates than the game it's based off of
>>332248823
The expansion is all existing cards becoming corrupted or becoming light-wielding heroes. Ragnaros is one of those who went hero.
It's basically a "what if" scenario.
>>332248578
Since you are too stupid not to trade in the 2/1 of course you would think the card is bad. Enjoy rank 15 mongoloid.
Warcraft lore just keeps getting worse and worse.
Holy shit this is retarded, lightlord fucking ragnaros?
They won't have anything to work with for warcraft 4 at this rate.
>>332248969
Wow for the low, low price of a AAA video game you can play a single basic deck.
Looks like an April Fools card, When has Ragnaros ever been called a Lightlord?
Card is not bad tho, and can attack whomever it targets
>>332249413
AAA video game gets you about 2 weeks of entertainment
MtG deck gets you years of entertainment
>>332249470
The way they explained is that 'Some cards are being corrupted to evil, others are standing against the darkness'
Since Ragnaros was already evil, they lumped him into the latter camp because reasons
I think it's a pretty good card notwithstanding, though
>>332249470
When has Hogger ever been called the doom of Elwynn?
>>332249470
>>332249213
Ok i get it now.
>>332249698
This and AzGul'dan from HotS need to be in WoW as part of Legion.
>>332249558
>Playing the same deck through a series of blocks which will make it much worse for years.
Sorry, I don't find that kind of masochism entertaining.
>>332249558
I'd get sick bored of playing the same fucking deck for a year.
>>332249698
Long ago Hogger was the first elite mob you would come across as a new player. He would paste tons of <10 level players.
>>332249917
Well we are getting lmao 2 skull Gul'dan already.
My name's Andrey, but a lot of you know me as Reynad
>>332250072
He was called the Terror of Elwynn, not Doom.
>>332250087
Wtf is this.
>>332249698
If you've ever played WoW before it was a single player game you'd remember that Hogger was really annoying and even more annoying to kill with the 15 minute respawn timer
>>332250087
How does he sleep
>>332250087
They changed him from that disgusting Rexxar yellow? About time.
Now give him spider legs and he'll be moderately acceptable.
>>332250218
what happens when you expose Gul'dan to his own skull
>>332250087
>literally such a mess of spikes and edge that they had to add a fucking outline so you can see his limbs
>>332250192
Semantics.
>>332250192
He's corrupted.
>>332250437
>>332250440
And Ragnaros is redeemed. But this is only in the card game anyhow.
>>332248823
It's like MtG's Planar Chaos.
Some cards are "time shifted", meaning they do the opposite of what they did before.
>>332250192
it's because the whole 'theme' of the expansion is that a lot of old cards are becoming corrupted
so 'doom' is like the upgraded version of 'terror'. it's dumb but yeah. this is basically Blizz's time to come up with new OC donut steel versions for all the old cards
>>332248823
Hearthstone has no lore. It's a card game in WoW.
>>332250218
Gul'dan getting our world's skull.
>>332250290
Nobody in WoW sleeps. Or eats.
>>332250317
The color change probably matches when he changes spec. Kind of like Teron'gor in Auchindoun.
>>332250372
The outline exists for a lot of supercharged characters. Like the fel corrupted animals.
>>332250372
>>332250794
>The outline was added in Firelands, and added extra "THIS SHIT BURNS" emphasis
>Now it's used on anything as bright as a firefly's ass
It was a cool effect on the few things from Firelands. It's alright on the few mounts that use it. Everything else? It's bad and never should've been reused.
>>332250616
Blizzard is already doing that with HotS skins.
>>332250372
Outlines usually mean that's where particle (or the wow engine equivalent) effects are going to be
>>332250101
I actually feel bad watching Reynad. He sounds legitimately angry most games he plays
>There are already a ragnaros minion, a ragnaros hero, and now a ragnaros paladin.
>Next expansion they will make ragnaros a tribe.
>Ragnaros the knifelord for rogues
>Ragnaros the beastlord for hunters
>Ragnaros the warlord neutral, buff all ragnaros in the game.
>>332248023
You and your friend should try Codex. I'ts a pretty cool game, although its not that known yet, if you dont mind just playing with your buddies.The cards are not collectable so its cheaper than magic, and it has a cool mechanic where you build your deck while you play.
You can print out any decks you need for cheap from the sirlins website, and you can try the starter set for free.
http://www.sirlin.net/codex/
You dont have to click the kikestarter link, just watch the video and click on the store link on the top right.
>TOO SOON VAN-SAMA
>YOU'VE TOUCHED ME TOO-
>AAAAAAHHHHH
>>332248023
Play Yugioh
We've entered the 30 dollar format
>>332250087
Goddamn that artstyle is fucking garbage.
>>332250759
Hearthstone has a lore, but it's a strange lore. Like how somehow this tavern's back room has entrances to both Naxx and Blackrock mountain. Or how for some reason a bunch of Warcraft characters are hanging out in this tavern playing a card game.
>>332251248
There'll be a Ragnaros with taunt for druids, a Ragnaros with windfury for Shaman, Ragnaros with charge for Hunters, etc
>>332250290
He could try sleeping on a massage table with the shoulders cut out.
>>332250932
What else is it used on besides Gul'dan?
>>332250759
This.
The cards are all probably made by the Innkeeper or whoever and they just come up with cool shit related to a theme within Warcraft.I can imagine he has a similar temperament to Brode.
>DUDE LIKE WHAT IF RAGNAROS WAS A GOOD GUY LMAO
>>332246882
Reno wasn't enough?
>>332251886
Voidtalon of the Dark Star (mount), all variants of the Fire Hawk mount from Firelands, several pieces of tier gear for various classes, many enemy models including Mannoroth (Hellfire Citadel) and the green fire dude in Auchindoun, a load of weapons (Mostly from Pandaria), and so on.
It should've stayed in Firelands. Instead, it went everywhere.
>>332252082
brb, making a deck with Lightlord Rag, Reno, healbots, and tuskarr jousters
Perhaps some lay on hands as well
THE OLD GODS DID NOTHING WRONG
>>332252272
Don't forget Holy Light and this
>>332248969
The problem is you can get directly "better" at the game by buying more cards. The friend who invests most into the game is at an advantage.
>>332252272
Don't forget Duplicate so you can keep the game going well over 45 minutes.
>>332252406
What's better than the ultimate "Fuck you, Hunters" deck?
>>332252560
Perhaps in a different deck, pally doesn't have duplicate and Lightlord Rag and Tuskarr jouster are both pally class cards
Quick, who else is gonna go Corrupted, who is gonna go FIGHT THE DYING OF THE LIGHT?
Warlocks get Renounce Darkness, might as well add yet another card that changes their Portrait/Hero Power. YOU FACE VINDICATOR JARAXXUS, CHAMPION OF THE LIGHT
>>332252496
Same with hearthstone, only you can't just buy cards, you buy packs and pray, with the exception of the 20 dollar adventures to get exclusives like Reno and Elise.
Hearthstone is far more bullshit.
>>332254085
High Priest Archimonde
>10/0/1
>"Replace your hero with High Priest Archimonde, and set your health to 15."
>Hero Power: "Heal yourself and all of your minions for 2."
Are there any good alternatives to a CCG besides Hearthstone on Android? Need something for my tablet and Spellweaver isn't out on Android yet.
>>332254518
I suppose you wouldn't put Auchenai Soulpriest into an Archimonde dech
>>332254085
Velen, Right Hand of Sargeras
>>332254686
YGOpro?
>>332254686
I like to play Mabinogi Duel, I don't know how to explain it, but I'll stick to this game than any of the other TCGs out there available for phones.
>>332254085
CorruptedTyrian
>>332254686
Plants vs Zombies Heroes.
>>332255161
Warrior Legendary
6 mana 8/8
Deathrattle:Equip Tentacles for Arms
>>332254686
Spellwhat?
>>332254686
Soccer Spirits
>>332255484
>that spoiler
STOP THIS MADMAN!
>>332255484
To be fair, having another card give you TfA is probably the only way I'll ever see it being played
>>332259017
I don't know, you might be forced to pick it in Arena if the other options are bad enough
>>332259231
>>332259017
I was thinking about some sort of creature that gave you immune while attacking if 'Tentacles for Arms' is your weapon.
>>332259783
Well, it would have to be 5 mana or less, since there's no way anyone would play it if you couldn't also play TfA on the same turn
>>332255342
he would be a 1 7 since he is all talk
>>332246882
dr. 8
>>332260157
>t. Bernie Sanders
>>332260157
Don't you have more bird memes to post on FB?
>>332248023
> playing constructed MtG
Literally not even once.
>>332255342
>at the end of your turn, opponent must pay for 1 0/5 wall token out of his deck picked at random.
>>332256874
>Recommending SS past the mass censorship point
Fuck that.
>Everyone ITT hyped for powercreep
Jesus christ.
>>332261586
I'm hyped for the power creep expansions Naxx and GvG to fuck off
>>332252732
hunters haven't been a problem for a while now, Secret Paladin is the most cancerous shit to ever grace Hearthstone.
>>332249653
Well ragnaros is a servant of the old gods so I wonder what happened to make him convert?
>>332262125
Dude piloted shredder is being replaced with a 4/2 divine shield minion. That's insane powercreep.
In all but cards that destroy that's a huge improvement. So basically unless your opponent is running twisting nether or vaporize, that's a massive upgrade.
>>332262631
>Secret Paladin is cancer
>Let's just make a card that destroys all secrets, that'll fix it
>>332262631
Secret paladin was nothing compared to starving buzzard hunter, or undertaker hunter.
>tfw perfectly balanced brawl is ending soon
>>332263107
Unfortunately Blizzard's method of balancing seems to involve ignoring the concept of a "side deck" and making tech cards have such huge fucking tempo swings that they're justified to run even when they can go off 1/3 of the time.
See:
Harrison
Kezan
>>332263359
i dont understand how this brawl made it through
did they have a monkey play as KT or something? is it even possible to win with Rafaam unless the other player has a heart attack or the batteries on his phone runs out?
>>332263472
If you draw literally every removal (That transforms minions and doesnt kill them) along with all of your staff pieces then yes you can win
>>332249558
>years of entertainment
>You'll need to spend 50+ every 6 months to stay competitive
>local turneys tend to be cut throat minmaxing faggots or a group of locals whose been playing for 15 years and probably isn't wild to have another guy who is going to play for 3 months then vanish
Get me a fucking break. I like MtG, but come on.
>>332263821
>He only plays standard
>>332254484
Only the average Dr.Boom like card in magic is 180 dollars or requires you to buy an entire box of cards and pray.
It's the same shit boyo.
>>332263472
Rafaam is legit fun to play and win with.
Mull hard for serpent lady/pit snake transformer/counter spell
Plan to play counter spell before his turn 3 staff piece play to make him autoconcede
Transform their 4/5 5/4 bearded fags and play a control game
>tfw pull a deathwing and kill their entire board
>tfw you play with noob kels and their turn 2 haunted creeper/mad scientist plays
feelsPOWER OVERWHELMING
>>332250290
Hammock
>>332263907
>what is power creep
ok
>>332264008
>not playing limited
actual faggot
>tried playing again recently after not playing since gnomes vs goblins came out
>get shit on 90% of the time
>no way to get any of the cool new cards to improve my shitty outdated decks without spending money or grinding forever
>you still only get one quest a day
>still only get 10g per 3 wins
>still no real way to get dust besides running arena
Oh yeah, now I remember why I dropped this game.
>>332263932
>play Kel
>get Heigan the Unclean
>do nothing but hit hero power and play spells
>win every time
L
O
L
>>332250794
>Or eats
We do eat like pigs.
>>332264064
>my game isn't bullshit you are just playing it wrong
Funny how it's always the wrong format. MtG is fun with friends, but then so is sitting around doing nothing.
>>332264250
You have very little knowledge of how mtg works and should therefore keep quiet on this subject
>>332264064
>I play the toteskilled, not luck at all! format!
Go scam somewhere else faggot.
>>332263932
So it's fun to pray for 2 specific cards, and for kel to not have enough minions to keep up until you have dominance?
>>332249269
>332249269
Thats usually when i stop playing ranked because freeze mage is too slow for me.
>>332262798
Ragnaros was the firelord before the old gods came to Azeroth
The Old gods enslaved him and him being released from their will would not turn him into some retarded light elemental
>>332251391
This.
I went on tcg looking for Kajus and to finish my fluffal and looked at the Infinite Gold sets, holy fuck. Kozmo Dark Destoryer is 10 fucking dollars.
Dante is 2.
Jesus.
I'm going to build Burning and Kozmo for fun, I know Kozmo is gonna get hit hard eventually, Japan already dealt with Burning Abyss.
Dante at 1 - jeez.
>tfw primarily Fluffal player
>>332264387
You're a limitard, your opinion is worthless.
>>332263932
>playing against fatigue warrior
>wait until turn 35
>17/18 against his empty hand and board
Too bad he sucks icy rotten penises in this brawl
>>332252560
>duplicate
>standard
>>332264387
>subject is Magic the Gathering is a collectible card game that has been going on for 20 years and thus is reasonably expensive to get into and stay into if you have any interest at all in playing with people who are not your friends
>this investment of both time (to research a deck that speaks to you, buy said cards from your source of choice while shopping around, break into a clique at a local store, and then change decks as time goes on because you aren't going want to use the same deck forever) and money is several steps above baby's first card game
>U NO NOFIN BE QUITEES
k
>>332264510
I will refer you again to the post you quoted as very little has changed since I posted it
>>332264637
He's a limitard, he lives ff scamming new players telling them that "limited takes skill!!"
>>332264664
I refer you to the fact you're a limitard, hence not a human being, more like a proto kike.
>>332250538
Reminder that Gwyn was the lord of light before he was the lord of cinder
>>332264450
Nah he's a corrupted naaru.
>>332255342
>not an 0/10 wall with taunt
u fucked up bro. How does a wall even attack?
>>332264992
Turret emplacements.
>>332265036
>0/10 wall with taunt
>When this minion takes damage, summon a 2/1 turret
congrats Trump is now as balanced as he is irl.
>>332264992
>>332255342
Still loses to Dr.Boom sometimes.
How does this make you feel?It makes me feel angry.
>>332265204
>>332265036
>Trump, Battlecry: Add "The Wall" to your hand
>The Wall. 0/10 with taunt, Battlecry overload (2) opponent's mana.
>When this minion takes damage, summon a 2/1 turret
>>332263060
>divine shield is better than a 4 mana 7/4 or 6/5
>>332265467
Big Game Stumper
3/4/2
Battlecry: Destroy a Minion with Delegates of 700 or more.
>>332263472
You need three cards and even then having your Hero Power fully upgraded is a must during that too. You need the card that make s a minion into a pit snake, Entomb, and that minion that changes the current minions on the board.
I have over 60 wins so far and I play nothing but KT, while you can win with Rafaam it's not worth the time, luck, and anger you constantly go through getting stomped 9/10 times.
>>332265817
it's like the hunter v mage thing, mage was broken and very consistent, huntard was literally luck-or-suck.
>>332246882
This looks really stupid. Is it a fake card?
>>332265676
Yes. Scarlet crusader is decent, just got decent enough to be viable in constructed, and that +1 hp so that it can't be pinged down is huuuge.
For comparison argent commander is a 4/2 ds charge 6 mana and that is pretty decent.
>>332255342
It should cost your opponents mana crystals
>>332266006
I think Trump said Rafaam was ''a control deck with no control''. KT's hero power is his fuel and if you can't remove or change his first strong minion that dies you're pretty fucked. Out of all the games I stomped someone the one there I had a constant stream of Thadius' stands out. Hero power resurrect one of the other two and I get a Thaddius when either die, it was marvelous.
Are mech decks still viable? I liked playing a mech warrior deck back when GvG was new.
>>332266403
I came a cross a Mech Rogue yesterday that stomped me so yeah.
>>332263359
>>332263472
>play it three times
>rafaam twice, KT once
>win all three times, get the feeling rafaam has the advantage but it's reasonably balanced
Is this wrong?
>>332266496
Rafaam is hilariously luck dependent, while KT is extremely consistent, if you abuse necromancy when you only have on thing in your graveyard you can fill the board with heigan or gothik easily and Rafaam can do absolutely nothing to stop it if they didn't get a chance to turn it into a pit snake. Even if Rafaam does well you can pull out Razuvious if you got them lower than 20 health before they turned things around and just win in two turns.
>>332248023
That's because regular MtG is garbage that is dominated by flavor of the month decks and Blue+White or Blue+Red or whatever the new hot meme to combine with the always broken Blue is. The real fun comes when you play stuff like EDH/Commander.
>>332266496
Yes. It sounds like you are either amazing or incredibly lucky.
The problem boils down to a few major points.
>Requires at least TWO FUCKING TURNS of doing nothing to get your, still inferior, hero power. Before you staff that shit up it's complete garbage
>Requires specific removal (pit snake) and large amounts of AOE
>Is built like a control deck, but lacks taunt, healing, and has a very low amount of direct removal. While KT's deck is a rushdown/midrange deck with minions that self replicate or cause insane damage
>hero power is completely random, while KT can basically negate the entire randomness part
The secret to winning every game as KT is to never play anything besides his broken legendaries. Even if he waits until turn 5 or higher Raf has no real ability to gain board presence, and then you are going to face a never ending army of high powered shit forever. KT even has fucking removal if you do manage to get something on the board.
Really your only hope is you draw all your AOE and hard removal in your opening hand. Then you get some really high quality legendaries from your power. If you don't get both you lose.
>>332246882
people still play this garbage?
>>332266879
To add to this, you can use a spell KT has to destroy your own minion if you want to be a dick and completely remove Rafaam's chance to ever turn it into a pit snake
>>332266975
Unfortunately, yes.
>>332267191
truly there is nothing more unfortunate than someone enjoying a video game I don't like
>>332254686
Not trying to be a shill since I already quit playing it, but Earthcore: Shattered Elements was really cool for the few days I was playing it, I like it a lot more than HS, just stopped playing all digital CCGs because of the infinite time waste that they are.
Duelyst is pretty good on PC too, I was playing it back in November before Trump and Hafu and Reynad and JustSayain and all these fuckers started streaming it. Even Shadybunny. Lol.
It's lots of fun for a while, but balance issues are holding it back (s-rank player here). Anyway, they have an "end of march" patch coming that's going to rebalance a lot of cards and it should be really cool then. They add a fourcards every month to shake up the meta. Great ideas desu.
How do the new modes and shit work? Can you like, no longer run GVG cards in ladder or something? Or is it just an option for friendlies / tournaments?
>>332267954
You have standard. Which only uses Basic and the 3 newest expansions.
And Wild. Where you can use what the fuck ever.
It's fucking dumb cash grab. Just implement a fucking ban list. And let Wild ignore it.
>>332268057
So is there 'Standard Play / Wild Play' and 'Standard Ladder / Wild Ladder'?
That's so dumb.
>>332263060
>>332266281
>Dude piloted shredder is being replaced with a 4/2 divine shield minion. That's insane powercreep.
Shredder's main strength is its effective immunity from unfavorable trades. Few situations exist where an opponent can trade 1-for-1 with shredder, and they can't wait for a better hand because of its high attack value.
The new card has nowhere near the resilience of shredder. Silvermoon guardian, a nearly identical card, doesn't see play because it loses to 3/2s plus ping when played on curve and lacks offensive punch. The new card is even easier to destroy, but it's likely better overall because the +1 damage is essential for trading upwards. I think the card is good enough to see play, but it's a clear downgrade from shredder, and that's a good thing.
>>332251262
I like this, it looks pretty interesting
Looks better than dominion and star realms, which I have both of and enjoy a bit.
>>332268237
It also doesn't trade for shit.
I mean I completely agree, but the difference between 2 and 3 health is almost nothing. While the difference between 3 attack and 4 is fucking huge. And the difference between 1 and 2 health is almost immeasurable.
Shredder is still a much better card because of it's immunity to hard removal. This new divine shield card is fucking amazing and will perform better than shredder in any trading capacity.
>>332249558
A $60 deck won't.
>>332263907
Please tell me how to build a competitive $60 modern deck. I'd love to know. Or perhaps it's Legacy/Vintage where the $60 deck really shines?
>>332263472
If you can't win as Rafaam, you're an idiot.
>>332265817
>You need three cards
Not really.
There are generally two lines of play KT players take: the rush approach and res approach. Former involves throwing out minions on curve and not caring about how bad your hero power becomes, the latter involves filling your hero power with Heigan / Gothik.
The former requires aoe to counter, the latter requires transform spells. After watching some other people play, I think the most common mistakes they make are hastily using their aoe for the former line of play. Killing two 1/1s with the 2/2 naga's aoe might seem good value if you were playing constructed, but it's pretty bad for the brawl. Using your aoe too early will make you get overwhelmed later in the game.
The other major mistake people make is killing Heigan / Gothik. Don't do that. A turn 3 Heigan doesn't need to be answered on the same turn. You can wait until turn 5 to naga it away. If he plays Gothik on turn 4 as well, you'll get double value.
I just started instaconceding when playing as KT. Rafaam is more fun, and I got a 75% win rate with him anyway.
>even then having your Hero Power fully upgraded is a must
I've won games without a fully upgraded hero power. Unstable portal ends up giving more value than resurrect unless you've been stupid with what you've killed.
>>332268937
Now all I need is pit snake, Naga witch, and all my AOE every game and that my opponent is an idiot and I'm set.
Thanks man!No one is saying that It's impossible to win, just hilariously one sided.
>>332269390
You know, I was going to be a condescending asshole. But, this is actually a pretty decent card. Maybe 4 attack.
>>332269191
KT has one copy of Heigan and one copy of Gothik. Half of the time he doesn't have either of them before turn 4. Usually a single transform spell is enough for the early game. You also wouldn't need all your aoe if you were using it right.
I think the two are reasonably balanced, since my win rates for both are similar. Rafaam is clearly the more difficult one to play though.
Stop blaming the game. Maybe the problem is you.
>>332264487
>Tfw could have made $50+ if I sold my PePe Sorcerer before the banlist
RIP PePe
>>332269521
>I think the two are reasonably balanced
I think you are an idiot. You act like these are the only two cards he has. You also completely negate the fact that you're entire strategy requires you have access to a grand total of 4 cards in your deck.
I gave a laundry list of reasons why this is so unbalanced. In 26 matches I've never lost a single time as KT, while I won about half of my games as Raffan. Feel free to look up others experiences as well.
Rafaam's deck is terribly designed. It's a control deck with less than 8 cards that are actually control oriented. His Hero power is terrible and stays terrible unless you roll some really fucking lucky dice.
In contrast KT's deck is great. A good mix of legendaries and spells. Good comeback mechanics and overall stronger cards. Really the only flaw in KT's deck are the traps the developers left in partially as flavor, probably, partially as a balancing mechanic.
The fact this process requires 8 mana to preform (6 for staff and once for the button, not to mention you are basically skipping two card draws for the staff pieces) before you see any benefit is hilarious. You can pseudo control KT's power as Rafaam, but the randomness factor you can impose on him is nothing to the randomness factor that you must endure. In the end Rafaam relies far, far more on very specific card draw and luck. Which makes him far weaker.
>>332268578
>This new divine shield card is fucking amazing and will perform better than shredder in any trading capacity.
That's assuming the opponent lets you trade favorably with minions
>Rogue dagger + backstab
>Mage ping + frostbolt
>Warrior slam + axe
>Shaman spell totem + earthshock (a man can dream)
The reason this card is so much worse than shredder is because a 4/2 divine shield gives the opponent many more ways to reliably counter the card from their hand. Imagine playing this turn 4 and a paladin responds with knife juggler + muster. It can even die to a 1 drop if you're in a losing position. Compare this to shredder, where the worst thing that can happen is getting a doomsayer from a winning position at a 2% chance.
It trades up better than shredder in situations where the opponent can't rely on weak minions or pings to remove the divine shield. But in pretty much every other situation shredder is superior. You will never regret playing a shredder on curve while you can't say the same for the new card.
>>332268057
Standard is never going to be 3 expansions
At the start of every rotation it's gonna be classic plus 4 expansions then cycle again after 2 more expansions
This standard for example is gonna be BRM, TGT, LoE, and Whispers to start then its gonna add two more and cycle out the first 3 on the next set
>>332247349
You do know it's almost impossible to play 8+card minions in this game anymore way too much low cost removal
Fuck me for being the only person in hearthstone for playing anuburak in my nerubian deck
>>332271498
Once standard rolls in and BGH gets nerfed only Priest and Warrior are gonna be left standing on the pedestal of bullshit removal
>>332248023
just play xmage
>>332270105
>You act like these are the only two cards he has.
Let's see.
>Haunted Creeper, all secrets, frostbolt, mad scientist (10 cards total)
Extremely low level threats.
>Dark Cultist, Maexxna, Sludge Belcher, Necrotic Poison, Horseriders (6 cards total)
Low level threats.
>Feugen, Loatheb, Gluth, Grobbulus, Sapphiron, Patchwerk, Faerlina (7 cards)
Mid level threats.
Rest are high or very high threats. Half of his cards are shit that you barely need to deal with. Some are rng based (Darkness Calls into razuvious generally loses you the game), while some aren't always that threatening (Noth).
>requires you have access to a grand total of 4 cards in your deck.
You generally draw well enough. It's just rng, just like all decks in hs.
>Feel free to look up others experiences as well.
I watched Trump try to play the brawl. It was embarrassing. Misplay after misplay as rafaam.
I wouldn't trust the experiences of others that much. /v/ and /hsg/ were the same people who were claiming that rogue was a bad or mediocre arena class at the time it was actually the best one.
> with less than 8 cards that are actually control oriented
That's just plain untrue. Flamestrike, Keeper, SWP, SWD, 0 mana aoes, naga archers, vial, entomb, pit snake. That's already 14 cards, and doesn't include the direct damage cards.
>His Hero power is terrible and stays terrible unless you roll some really fucking lucky dice.
The average legendary is pretty good, especially for a -4 mana cost.
>A good mix of legendaries and spells.
KT's spells are rubbish, excluding Darkness Calls and Necrotic Poison, and frostbolt to a lesser extent. The secrets are basically trash.
>Good comeback mechanics
How can you say this to the one that doesn't have a 0 mana deal 5 to everything and 0 mana deal 3 to all enemies? KT's comeback mechanics include filling the board with minions, Patchwerk, Necrotic Poison. That's rubbish compared to what Rafaam has.
>>332254686
If you want something quick and cheap there is card city nights
![36834502[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ujjMcSQ.png "36834502[1].png")
I don't know how many things you'd even want to play this with but I thought the idea was neat
>>332271850
Rafaam has zero ability to establish board control before he assembles the staff
in order to assemble the staff you need both pieces AND a sacrificial spell to trigger counterspell
by that time KT can have easily gotten two or 3 high value legendaries out
>>332259120
Too bad the Naxx cards are all getting removed so deathrattles are back to being shit.
>>332271850
>The secrets are basically trash.
>tfw counterspelling his staff
>>332264612
>duplicate
>paladin
>>332272060
I'd run that in a freeze mage deck and play it with doomsayer
>>332269191
you have 3 single target removals for heigan/gothik
>snake transform
>2x Entomb
you have 4 super strong board clears
>0 mana 5 damage hellfire
>0 mana 3 damage consecrate
>2 mana 2/2 naga that deals 2 damage to enemy board
and you have lady naz'jar to transform heigan/gothik/stalagg/feugen into something harmless
winning as rafaam takes some thought, but it's nowhere near as hard as you make it out to be
>>332273651
entomb is 6 mana to the 3 or 4 cost for their's
and generally speaking the board clears are going to do absolutely nothing to KT thanks to his ability
>>332246882
Holy fuck that's just a copy of Skorne from Gauntlet: Dark Legacy
>>332273975
THAT WAS AN HEROIC EFFORT
>returned back to HS 2 months ago, didn't play since GnG came out
>slowly doing dailies and brawls
>finally get enough gold to finish Naxx
>literally two days after they announce "standard"
>>332246882
>actually playing hearthshit
>>332254686
Hex tcg is the only worth playing since its basically magic+ but half the price and ez to go infinite
>>332246882
Huh? I stopped playing WoW after vanilla. What the hell happened? Did Ragnaros turn into a paladin?
>>332265348
Thank you so much for that anon
>>332271498
>way too much low cost removal
Getting nerfed in Standard.
>>332263060
4/2 divine shield isn't power creep you fucking moron. Those are the same amount of stats and effect as Silvermoon Guardian.
>>332248662
Shut up, Bullhorn, nigga.
>>332246882
game is getting sloooooower with control decks dominating meta. I like it.
I don't understand why they decided to go with Standard format. The game exists in an entirely digital format where you can change cards at a whim.
>>332247575
Yeah you play this 3 turns later and has 0 guarantee of going face unless it is the only minion on board
>>332247186
underrated post
Why is Raggy a lightlord now?
>>332271498
it looks like it is choose target for heal though.
Could work with Freeze Mage etc?
>>332246882
does that include himself?
because that is the only way I see that card kinda being useful?
otherwise it´s almost never going to be played since it´s effect is only good if you already have the board.
which at a 8 mana crystel stage already means that you have won
>>332264572
those this deck work?
looks like fun
>>332255342
>Summon wall
>Not Battlecry: Your country is now bankrupt - all your cards cost (10) more - this effect continues even if The Trump dies.
>>332282980
whatever bernie
>>332263472
If you get shitty cards with KT you can lose... if Rafaam gets his staff fast.
>>332268913
i own 3 modern decks, red deck wins has more ffecient versions for more but mine was around 40 bucks, a blue ninjas deck that costs maybe 20, and a very competitive esper evoke control deck around 60 that you could make more consistent with expensive lands, but it gets by just fine. RDW is common but ninjas and evoke based control are rogue decks, they arent the common shit in the meta but they are perfectly viable. thats what i love about mtg and modern, yeah the guy with tarmogoyf is gonna do pretty well but so many different ways to play the game exist that the meta is lubed up and ready to be fucked with all day.. whereas hearthstones deck archetypes are almost all you can do, there are only so many viable ways to play
>>332282321
>it looks like it is choose target for heal though.
It's the same text as light well, and that's random.
