>was one of the best selling GPUs
>completely BTFO the 290 and 290x causing AMD to lower the price
>holds up pretty well to the 980TI
Why does /v/ always shit on the 970?
>>332185918
>holds up pretty well to the 980TI
A 980 Ti is almost as fast as two 970s in SLI tho.
>>332185918
>Sold at a 4GB card
>only has 3.5 GB
>>332185918
v shits on 980 and ti too.
v shits on everything
I have one with the reference cooler and holy shit its noisy as fuck
>Why does /v/ always shit on the 970?
3.5
I wouldn't know, I have a650 Ti Boost
>>332185918
You'l eat your words once the X70 is out in few months...
>>332186052
>>332186069
>we consulted a number of top-tier developers - including a number of architects working on their next next-gen engines, and others who've collaborated with Nvidia in the past. One prominent developer with a strong PC background dismissed the issue, saying that the general consensus among his team was that "I wouldn't worry about performance degradation, at least in the short term: 3.5GB of VRAM is actually quite a lot of space."
The 970 is great. It was the first time in years that you could buy a top of the line GPU for a midrange price. Hopefully Nvidia continues this trend.
>>332186252
Explain how people noticed then?
>>332186438
>top of the line
No.
It's fairly high-end, but not top of the line
>>332186505
None of the reviews at launch noticed. It took months for the story to break.
>>332185918
>2 GTX 980 at release 1400
>3 R9 290 at 980 release = 840
>>332186625
People noticed slowdown when it used above 3.5 gb
I got an Asus Strix 970 right before Christmas 2014 and it's been holding up perfectly fine. I don't think I'll ever find a reason to upgrade it until I decide to get a 4k monitor.
>>332186252
>at least in the short term
i want games to makes use of unified vram so my GTX 770 SLI rig won't be buckled down
>>332186657
>synthetic benchmarks
>>332187057
>thinks this makes any difference
Rendering is rendering anon, your graphics card isn't a psychic
>>332185918
Why would you compare it to a 290 or 290x when you can get a 390 for the same price which goes head to head with and has more than 3.5 gb and so far performs much better with dx12
>>332186252
>pay for 4GB
>recieve 3.5GB
>ITS OKAY 3.5 IS STILL ENOUGH FOR NOW :^)
>>332186746
Yeah because they maxed out all the settings on their shadow of mordors expecting buttery smooth 500fps on a fucking entry gaming card.
>>332186657
>3 R9 290's
Christ whats your energy bill like.
>>332189060
>970
>entry card
nani?
>>332189538
3 College guys, in a house during the summer with AC running I peak at 120$ a month, So 40$ a month for me at most. (that's with other fees and shit)
The cost for this month on actual usage was 59.89 USD. so it cost me like 20 bucks to run all the electronics I own.
>>332185918
> comparing 970 to the older 290
Nobody does this since 290 is cheaper and older.
Everyone compares it to the 390 instead. Why aren't you?
Because once its flaws were revealed anyone who bought one was a fucking moron.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdwUsalwBJ8
970 is the best selling card out there.
It just means there are more idiots than smart people. And that's nothing new, look at how many people flock to overpriced Apple shit. Nvidiots are the Apple fanboys of PC building.
Because it's shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IghcowGhRBc
>>332185918
>Best selling
>So it's good
There's that meme again.
I'm just glad its getting replaced soon. Us gamers deserve better from the most popular card on the market.
So should I upgrade my 7950 to a 390/Fury X or just wait
>>332190241
>completely different screenshots
>proof
ok
>>332185918
It gets completely shit on by the 390
>>332186252
>Game works fine with 3.5GB
>Needs to load an extra texture
>Assumes there's .5GB more VRAM at the same speed
>5 seconds later the frame is rendered
I wish it was just 3.5GB.
>Got mine for $150 because some fag with heavy buyers remorse wanted another card
>>332190612
I'm having the same and I'm waiting. No reason to upgrade it now.
>>332190969
>he didn't return the card for the $100 980 upgrade
My friend needed a new card and was considering AMD shit because of what his inferior friend told him.
I steered him to buying a 970. I wonder how mad this makes amd fanboys...That I'd rather have my friend use a card with an engineering issue, than an AMD product.
This isn't due to bandwagon fanboy hate in any way, it's due to ATI/AMD making inferior graphics cards for their entire existence, with the exception of the radeon 9x00 generation.
>>332191425
Nigger, 7950 outperforms 680 and 770 in recently released games, even Nvidia sponsored. I don't know how those "superior" cards get worse with each year.
>>332191425
The 390 is a faster card and more future proof thanks to DX12/Vulkan, you fucked your friend over
>>332191660
>outperforms
that word pops up a lot but the thing with AMD/ATI is even in situations where they have higher performance (rare), you are constantly dealing with drivers and incompatibility issues on game launch
>>332191765
>future proof
there's that meme again
>>332191765
>DX12/Vulcan
What do you think Vulcan has to do with Dx12 and why do you think AMD parts would have any advantage in Vulcan?
>>332191805
>you are constantly dealing with drivers and incompatibility issues on game launch
Just no. Not more than Nvidia at least.
>>332191865
Probably the async compute dipshit.
>niggers didnt even watch every 970 vs 390 video on DigitalFoundry who are literally Nvidia sponsored
their commentaries are extremely biased but nvidiots get blown the fuck out every benchmark
>>332191805
>you are constantly dealing with drivers and incompatibility issues
Nice meme. In last 4 years and I only had one problem and that's because I was using HDMI and old drivers. The game was MGR. 24 hz bug on HDMI, which after updating drivers worked flawless, while people with Nvidia still have that problem and have to use workaround. And guess what? It was Nvidia sponsored game.
>>332191870
It's factually true and isn't in argument. It happens with multiple AAA games every year. Happened with just cause 3 just a few months ago.
You can argue against it all you want, I am presenting a fact, not an opinion. I've been buying video cards since 1995. There is a strong pattern with ATI stuff.
Pascal is about to thoroughly crush them btw. They're going to lose significant market share next generation, including basically all laptops.
>>332192114
>It's factually true
Provide them facts then boy.
>>332185918
It was great at first but recent games have been destroying it. I expected a lifespan longer than a year.
Feels like my card has been gimped honestly.
Doesnt really hold a candle to the 980ti though
>>332192114
>pascal
>16 nm
>winning against polaris 14 nm
top kek
also
http://www.thecountrycaller.com/59284-nvidia-corporation-nvdas-pascal-reportedly-facing-issues-with-async-compute/
>>332190616
truly retarded
All the competent developers have adjustable VRAM caps in their games anyway. Not to mention the fact that you can just lower a setting if you start using too much anyhow.
>>332192181
I already told you it isn't an argument. I know you're used to people being a certain way here
I told you facts, you can accept them as fact or live in a delusional reality. The history of AMD/ATI driver issues and launch day incompatibility is very very long and very full. People typically respond with "nuh uh nvidia" which just doesn't make sense; nvidia doesn't have launch day issues in games
>>332192784
>I already told you it isn't an argument.
I know, I'm asking for the facts not the argument.
>I told you facts
Nah, you posted some claims without facts.
>>332192423
they chose not to focus on async compute. this isn't an "issue", it simply means the strengths of the card lie with vulcan, not dx12. Nvidia is trying to steer the industry away from MS, who wants to "walled garden" the home computer with app stores and shit.
>>332185918
>>completely BTFO the 290 and 290x causing AMD to lower the price
>>332192846
I don't have to support historical facts, anon. You have to support positions in an argument. I am talking about historical fact. Things that happened. I do not have to support my position because you aren't informed about historical fact.
That's the last I'll say about it. I really try to save people from themselves but people don't learn
>>332192978
>I don't have to support historical facts, anon.
I know, you have to post them though. All you did was post claims.
>That's the last I'll say about it.
Good, I was getting bored of repeating myself anyway.
>>332193091
>you have to post them though
world war 2 happened.
>nuh uh post link or it didnt happen
>>332192784
>Nvidia doesn't have issues
Their day 1 "game ready" drivers cause more troubles though.
https://www.vg247.com/2016/03/08/the-division-nvidia-364-47-drivers-issues/
inb4 b-b-but the game is shit
Please show AMD evidence.
>>332185918
>btfo the 290x
are you actually retarded or just pretending?
>>332191865
A-sync dummy
>>332191828
AMD cards are better suited for DX12/Vulkan, when more games release with the new API AMD cards will get a big boost in frames per second
>>332192881
>buying gimped cards that can't handle a-sync
>>332193532
>no multires shading
>worse tessellation performance
>worse DX11 performance
Okay. I'm sure it'll be relevant when more than 2 games use DX12!
>>332185918
>holds up pretty well to the 980TI
This is a blatant lie. When I upgraded to the 980Ti I got close to 20-30 more FPS for ultra settings on games like ARMA III, Witcher 3, and China Rising at 1440p.
I'm pretty certain that even at 1080p there should be a significant difference. I'd test it but I'd have to borrow a 1080p native res monitor.
>>332192881
>they chose not to focus on async compute
>http://wccftech.com/nvidia-async-compute-directx-12-oxide-games/
top kek
you are a shill if you think async compute is dx12 only
>>332190241
Why did it at the same point drop FPS for the 390 but gain FPS for the 970?
>>332194016
I'm assuming he meant 780 Ti.
Don't even need DX12 or async compute to kill a 970 with baby hawaii these days.
>>332194346
That's still not much of an accomplishment. Seeing as 780Ti is way better in OC and was the flagship card of last gen, unless you count those retardedly expensive classified 780Ti cards.
>>332193146
Without any facts to back it up you can't expect people to just believe it, no. Difference is, for that you only need to google one thing to see that it's true.
>>332194479
The best part
>game featuring Nvidia Gameworks
>>332194571
Being on par with the flagship of the last generation is not an accomplishment? And the 970 can easily overclock to 1500+ MHz with the VRM unlocked.
I kind of regret getting a 970 since 3.5GB really isn't enough for some games but it was a nice in between card for the changeover to current gen.
Still not sure if I want to go AMD or Nvidia next time. I'm definitely going to actually wait a bit till after Pascal and Polaris are out to decide and not buy on impulse this time.
I see AMDfags are cherishing being ahead for once.
>all these benchmarks
>powered by nvidia gameworks
nvidiots defend this shit
>>332185918
>holds up pretty well against the 980 ti
Do u even have both cards, bro?? :^)
>>332195161
Most of the games don't use Gameworks though.
>>332195123
>But we won last time!
>>332195161
>>332195251
some of them do but still lose to the same price ranged cards
how do you explain this?
>>332192914
>completely btfo 2 year older cards
Wow, it's nothing.
>>332195161
>Nvidia fanboys go out of their way to spend more money in comparison to an "equal" tier AMD GPU to get less frames per second
O I am laffin
>>332192881
>THE Nvidia game
>AMD is faster
>>332195360
Probably that Nvidia isn't sabotaging AMD like people think and the effects don't purposely cripple AMD cards in favor of Nvidia cards. But I'm sure that's too logical for people and it's just another dastardly scheme by Nvidia to do something by making their cards run worse which will with some mental gymnastics make AMD look bad.
Oh wait I know. It's to get people to upgrade to Pascal even though we're quite a ways away from that. That's obviously it.
>>332194568
>780ti
>barely ahead of 960
>planned obsolescence isn't a thing guys!
>>332192978
With that same dumbass logic I can safely say that nVidia is shit because they constantly overheat and have terrible drivers that break cards. I mean, it happened in the past so it's 100% true now and forever no matter what.
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>>332195645
>he doesnt know the crysis 2 fiasco
Will get pascal this summer.
>mfw 750ti for sixty bucks
feels good. Only wish witcher 3 ran better.
btw amd shit eaters. you should buy up some of that $2 stock.
>>332195161
>posts single AMD GAMING EVOLVED benchmark: Ashes of the Singularity
>IT'S OVER, NVIDIA IS FINISHED!
heh
>>332195908
>posts single AMD GAMING EVOLVED benchmark: Ashes of the Singularity
are we even on the same thread?
>>332185918
Dude, the 290x shits on the 970. Kys
Not to mention the 3.5gb fiasco
>>332195275
Lol that's so wrong though. I have an standard clock 970 and I maxed out graphics on Siege with a constant 60+
>>332195993
What is even more amusing is Oxide have admitted they have worked more with Nvidia than AMD on the game.
>>332195848
Talking shit when you have a terrible card
>>332195819
>an 8 year old game is still relevant today
>It's obviously Nvidia's fault despite Crytek being proved incompetent and just shoving DX11 and tessellation support into their game at the last second
>Nvidia is shitting on their own cards on purpose to make AMD look bad despite there not being anything to upgrade to at the moment
So you are telling me that Nvidia is pushing for these technologies to make Nvidia cards look worse even though the whole thing about people being forced to upgrade isn't relevant here since there's nothing to upgrade to at the moment. Nvidia is just doing it for the months of bad publicity until their new cards are out. I guess that makes sense.
>>332185918
>3.5
>buying 970 meme card when the 390 exists
huh?
>>332195123
>for once
Anon, like every major game release in last two months with exception of GoW performs better on AMD. Even Nvidia sponsored games with GameWorks.
>>332196175
nvidia gimps their older cards in favor of maxwell sales
since AMD is shit on improving drivers, they just caught up in recent months and improves performance on some games while nvidia stays the same
>>332185918
NICE FUCKIN' BAIT THREADER KIDDO
meme70's and meme7's for all the teenagers in the house! on mommy! IT'S A PARTY IN SHITTER TOWN TONITE!!!
>>332195908
>any game that uses DX12/Vulkan/Mantle is AMD Gaming Evolved
hahahahha Nvidia blown the fuck out!
>>332196175
when the fuck did i ever stated that they are gimping their maxwell cards?
all that i implied are new games are better for their competitor
>>332196432
After patching GoW now runs better on AMD.
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/gpu_displays/gear_of_war_ultimate_edition_performance_retest_-_the_game_has_been_fixed/3
>>332196583
WOOO NOW WE'RE ROCKIN BROS
GAME ON GARTH, GAME ON!!!
>>332196734
Even better.
>>332196747
Just GEFORCE that SLI into my ASS ONICHAN
NO, THE VRAM IS TOO BIG NI SAN.
>>332196546
>nvidia gimps their older cards in favor of maxwell sales
That isn't relevant to Maxwell cards also performing worse when there's nothing to upgrade to.
You're telling me Maxwell cards aren't performing worse but it's AMD is just netting lots of performance with driver updates?
>>332196692
I'm wondering what your answer is to why AMD cards are performing better than Maxwell cards in these games with the supposedly AMD-gimping Gameworks options. It can't be that tessellation isn't a part of every Gameworks tech and that's what usually kills AMD. Nvidia must have some evil plan for letting AMD get ahead right now.
>>332196890
THE DRAKE POSTERS ARE READYING THEIR GREEN WEBMs CAPTAIN, WE MUST PREPARE OUR RETALIATORY SALVO OF HUGBOXES AND AUTISM BLANKETS.
>buying Nvidia
>muh drivers
>>332195365
It doesn't even do that though lol
It's about 5% faster than the 290 and 10% slower than a 290x. The 290 was the better deal at the time and the 390 made the 970 entirely useless
>>332196969
>You're telling me Maxwell cards aren't performing worse but it's AMD is just netting lots of performance with driver updates?
yes? probably because of all of these open world memes that they need more vram
>>332187057
Who is this semen demon?
>nvidia
>muh drivers
196.75
never forget
WE'RE NOW GETTING REPORTS OF 970 OWNERS NOT BEING ABLE TO BE "WOKEN UP INSIDE" PROBLEMS POINT TO GFexperience.exe causing a mental memory leak in the owners frontal lobe.
A PATCH IS FORTHCOMING.
>>332197528
>196.75
>>332197360
If AMD driver updates can counteract the evil of Nvidia Gameworks then why is it everyone was throwing a fit over it a little bit ago? Are people going to stop blaming Gameworks for any game that runs bad on AMD now since apparently AMD has gotten over it? Nah, I doubt it. We'll go back to the same bullshit once AMD is behind again and repeat ad nauseum.
>>332197662
AMADs have a lot of bitterness and resentment bottled inside.
>>332192073
>annie with tits
oh boy
On a somewhat related note, If I intend to build a new rig with a 390 in mind, what should I be looking for in a mobo?
>>332195367
It's really hilarious how bad the 970 performs at 1440p
Proves that it's only good at gimmicks like tesselation and goyworks than actual graphics processing
>>332197985
literally anything
why the fuck would a motherboard matter?
>>332197985
One that has lots of lights and says GAMING or else it won't work
>>332196734
Huh, too bad I already got a refund. Used the money for dark souls 3 though so I doubt I'll regret it
>>332198087
Different anon, but overclocking relies heavily on motherboards.
>>332197985
How do I build Pc
>>332186657
I had enough issues running two r9 290x in xfire. Wouldn't even want to imagine the work arounds I had to deal with to get eyefinity working in most with 3 of the piles of shit.
Fuck AMD, I want to play my games. Not spend hours trying to get them to work with AMDs god awful drivers if I'm doing anything other than a single monitor setup. Nvidia, it just werks man.
>>332198357
Cool story, Unlike you I know what I'm doing and don't have problems with 3 cards.
>>332197985
Make sure you get a sapphire
At this point I honestly recommend getting a nano. It's probably the most amazing card on the market atm. No it's no 980ti but it's small as hell, quiet as hell, and has the specs of a fury (not non-x) and it's only $500
Some day I plan on having a laptop with thunderbolt and a nano egpu enclosure. Small enough to throw into a backpack
>>332198357
The only problem is crossfire, which is a hair worse than sli. Multi gpu always has been a joke. Strong single card all the way
>>332198663
For raw performance crosasfire murders sli these days since AMD went bridgeless.
>>332198663
>actually thinks CF is worse then SLI
It is known by EVERYONE that SLI is worse.
Hell, Nvidia still needs a bridge.
>>332198663
>I have no clue what I'm talking about.jpg
>>332185918
it's a cash grab for people who can't afford a 980 but want a nvidia card because of marketing
>>332198789
>>332198819
>>332198923
My experience with multigpu ended 2 years ago. What I remember is every new game having an sli profile at launch and not working at all for weeks to months on amd
That being said I admit my ignorance and know about bridgeless crossfire. Looking into it for an upgrade to my current single 290x down the road if I don't wanna go through the trouble of selling my card and buying a new one
Would a 290x crossfire with a nano?
>>332192881
They could've just doing it by, you know, supporting Vulcan which is platform-free. Instead they make sure that DX 11 will stay here for longer.
>>332199767
Nvidia is supporting Vulkan. They're one of the companies that are part of the group. But Vulkan is being rolled out slower than DX12 so there's not much they can do about that. There isn't any newly released game that supports it yet. The only game I know that does support it right now is the Talos Principle.
>>332195251
The ones before your post:
AoS - not gameworks, AMD gaming evolved
RotTR - both Gameworks and AMD hair tech(but since it takes 2-3 frames regardless of card I think you can ignore its contribution)
Need for speed - nothing as far as I know
The Division - I don't know but Ubi generally uses gameworks in other games so they may use it here
Far Cry Primal - gameworks
Hitman - gameworks
Blops3 - nothing
Far Cry 4 - gameworks
>>332197582
I love the 8800gt it was Nvidia's golden gpu.
I still have mine although it goes unused at the moment.
>>332200343
>112 stream processors
And we are now competing with 5-6k on a card.
>>332185918
>was one of the best selling GPUs
>hurr dur
> its popular therefore it's good
>>332200148
The Division uses some Nvidia soft shadow tech but GTAV used the same tech and wasn't Gameworks.
FCP doesn't use Gameworks according to Eurogamer.
I can't find anything about Gameworks with Hitman
FC4 does use Gameworks. Or at least some of the tech usually associated with it.
>>332199491
>That being said I admit my ignorance and know about bridgeless crossfire.
The tl;dr is AMD has the cards communicate across the pcie slot with each other (this when combined with some newer hardware in GCN 1.1 onwards is what gives the better performance).
>Would a 290x crossfire with a nano?
In the here and now? No.
If DX12's crazy multi-gpu options take off (possible, but unlikely) then it could do.
>>332200721
Hitman is SE, so shouldn't have anything with GW.
>>332200343
>BFG
holy shit theres a name i havent seen in a whilei used to own a 9800gx2
>>332200852
If I recall, they have already been benchmarks of combine cards.
Even across company platforms.
>>332200973
You mean like the one in the post you replied to? As well as this chart?
>>332201050
Well I was talking more about with analysis, we can all edit images.
>>332201104
Not as bad as that Tessellation Sea below the map.
>>332200924
I bought their 8800gt bundled with their 650w power supply for around 200USD back in 2007.
The power supplied died in 2010 and I was able to get it replaced under warranty right before BFG went out of business and were bought out.
>>332201104
>>332201329
>make your game for consoles and have it only support DX9 out of the box
>surprised that shoving in tessellation support with DX11 after the fact ends up with retarded results
I'm not necessarily denying that Nvidia had a hand in it but people seem to forget that Crytek shat the bed with Crysis 2's release and that the way tessellation was implemented because it was in a patch later on might just not have been implemented well and so caused those kinds of things.
>>332189538
nvidiots are retarded
>>332201492
That isn't how that works. You don't just push a button and add a million faces to an object, they each have to be manually done.I mean, you do pretty much click a few buttons to add divisions, but you can't just tell a game engine to do that, they are exported objects into the game engine. It doesn't make these changes.
>>332201646
So you're saying Crytek had to manually remodel everything in the game with millions of polygons for the patch for PC? I'm not sure I believe that though I'm pretty sure like you said you can't just push a button to do it. Still doesn't put the blame entirely on Nvidia since Crytek was probably damage controlling after people were complaining that Crysis 2 was a huge step backwards from the first game technology wise.
>>332201847
They could do it with a simple program to automate the process. Then you just have 1 model with two save versions.
Wouldn't be difficult.
I put the blame on Crytek for being a shitty dev, but I also blame Nvidia because they had their hands dipped in the project and knew they had better Tessellation capabilities.
Personally Tessellation is shit, the limited amount of shit it can do for the cost in performance isn't worth it.
You are better off manually crafting certain details by hand, but just like programmers, modelers and texture artists are lazy sacks of shit and take an easy way to complete the task.
>>332201847
Tessellation has its own knobs like everything else does. You have control over what part and how much something is tessellated. You don't end up with solid wireframes by accident.
>>332201194
> we can all edit images.
Read for yourself.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9740/directx-12-geforce-plus-radeon-mgpu-preview
>>332202081
The best thing I think tessellation can be used for is lod transitions. So instead of stuff popping in it will smoothly transition from low quality to high quality. Overgrowth does this to some extent. It's generally not that large of a performance hit though and most games don't use it to any great extent.
Sniper Elite 3 for instance uses it and that runs like butter on almost anything. Max Payne 3 also uses tessellation and runs fine. I honestly think tessellation isn't used enough.
>perfectly fine 970 thread, talking about the 970, ways to properly prep a bull and black breeding
>suddenyl AMDrones show up and post benchmarks
Why the FUCK is this allowed, bros?
>>332202845
Because you are supporting the wrong company. Supporting Nvidia is supporting trump.
>>332203017
Nvidia is the Apple of gpus
Overpriced, inferior and corrupt. They sell to tech illiterate people who just want the next shiny thing that's been marketed to them
>>332187167
>hurr durr what is cfx scaling and profiles
Why do I think you bought those cards just to show off? I see your build posted fucking constantly.
Tri-crossfire is a total waste of money. I've tried it myself when I had a extra two 290s buying and selling cards for some side cash.
>>332190472
>the ecommunist
>>332203263
Not my fault you are a dumb fuck who doesn't know what he is doing.
>>332186068
>bought a reference card
Literally why
>>332203371
What is there to "know"? You get shit performance without a profile. It's simple as that. You can try to google for workarounds or trial and error with crossfire configs but you're going to get a sub-par performance either way. The vast majority of games have a clear scaling drop after the 2nd card even with a profile.
>>332203628
>game releases
>check the engine
>switch to profile to game using same engine
or
>switch to AFR
Only Dx9 titles give me any issues. Considering it's 2016, that doesn't even matter.
So apparently I'm pretty retarded; I'm upgrading my 6950 to an r9 390 but when I plug it in and turn the computer on, the computer never makes it past post to booting up. I've got all of the power pins plugged in and I should have enough power, I believe. Any idea why this would be?
>tfw got the 780ti when it first came out
>It still runs everything pretty well
>>332203787
Goes more like this
>game releases
>AMD hasn't released the driver
>try to find workarounds
>usually work like shit and a single card is better
>wait 2 months
>check the engine
>switch to profile to game using same engine
>already beat the game
AFR even when it "works" gives terrible scaling 99% of the time. The other half of the time you get all sorts of artifacts.
And seriously don't bullshit me on this. I tried to play through TW3 and it was garbage with AFR. Same shit with FC4. It took AMD months for a profile with both of those games.
Also again, third card gives garbage scaling for almost all games with few exceptions, if it even works at all.
>>332203965
>>332204107
Right, well let's see, someone who owns the system with 3 cards. or someone with one card who gave it a try and was too stupid to figure it out.
I win.
Not going to arguing with a dumb fuck who can't even do simple work arounds.
I like my 390.
>>332203965
You sure your psu is capable of feeding a 390? Hawaii is a thirsty beast.
Side note: you best not be using molex adapters.
>>332204107
>TW3
I bet you didn't even manually disable Tessellation. You dumb nigger.
>>332185918
>3.5
>3.5
>3.5
>>332204259
I'll make sure next time I open it up, but I think so. Problem is I gotta pull the sucker out since the sticker's on the wrong side.
Alright boys, I need a new card for DS3 and The Witcher 3. I've got a radeon 7700 series.
I'm thinking R9 280 since new shit is coming out and it should be good enough.
1920x1080, everything else is great but the card. 500w.
>>332204230
I had three cards for a good 6 months before I gave up and sold it along with two other 290s. I ended up getting two 290x cards for what I sold the two 290s for so I still do crossfire now. Most of the time they're in seperate systems though. So no I'm not "someone with one card who gave it a try". I still have two cards.
Defend your shitty epeen purchase to the end. All it does is show how dumb as shit you are to the informed.
>>332204302
That had nothing to do with the AFR artifacts for CFX. It was more the temporal AA. Then it still had issues with shadow flickering. It did finally get it to work but then the scaling was so erratic it was more distracting than anything.
>>332204579
280 should be god for med settings
>>332192881
Vulkan relies on Async compute as well. Vulkan and DX12 share the same core API; Mantle.
>>332186252
If I pay for 5 cars I don't care if 4 cars was enough I paid for 5.
>>332204584
Sorry, I see no reason to "defend" my purchase.
I have no issues with it, and haven't since I built it. Again not my problem you are a dumb faggot.
>>332204706
> Vulkan and DX12 share the same core API; Mantle.
The denial over this across the web is staggering as it really brings the team green fanboys out of the woodworks.
>>332204706
>Vulkan and DX12 share the same core API; Mantle.
>>332204718
You don't need to defend it. Your Post-purchase rationalization is quite obvious as you don't even have any solid rebuttals. Just angry ad hominem attacks stemming from the fact you know you're wrong.
>>332205015
>hurr my ad hominem
Only directed at a faggot who doesn't know what he is doing and won't listen to reason.
It's a pretty reasonable response actually. You are a dumb faggot who couldn't figure out how to work a product, and instead of manning up to it, you blame the product.
Similar to people who pull the whole "AMD MUH DRIVERS" thing you kiddos love to do.
>>332204641
Hmm, any other suggestions for above mid but good price? Or is this the best idea considering the inevitable new shit?
>>332204579
Get a 380 or 380x
280 would suffice but you'll wanna upgrade soon again
>>332205274
> doesn't know what he is doing and won't listen to reason.
Pot meet kettle.
What reasoning have I not listened to? You said you can just find other game profiles or use AFR. This has sub-par results even when it "works". Or are you really saying this is just as good as a profile? That would be even more delusional.
You didn't even bother trying to defend the 3rd card's scaling which is a complete waste of money. Scaling drops of nearly half at best even with the games with the best scaling.
>>332205015
>ad hominem
Oh your first Rhetoric course?
>>332204858
>XB1 is an AMD core
>AMD made Mantle
>AMD released Mantle
>MS is forced to rush DX12 to market
>Mantle already works on XB1 due to XB1 OS being a stripped down version of Win10
>DX12 is basically an off-shoot of Mantle, but with other tech MS threw in there to respond to the Khronos Group stating they'll release Vulkan which is very similar to Mantle
>AMD cans Mantle development, tells devs to focus on DX12 and Vulkan
>>332205539
>third card scaling
>He lives in 2008
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnS0xWtoRzk
>>332205782
Did you just post a video to try to prove my point? There are few exceptions for games with great scaling, like Tomb Raider or BF4. They're far too few to make a 3rd card worth it. This is what you get most of the time, this is even with Nvidia's better support for SLI profiles.
>>332206131
>posting watch dogs as evidence
AND YOU LOST EVERYTHING
>>332185918
>slower than a 390 which is just a 290
>>332205683
>>AMD cans Mantle development
It's not that they stopped development of Mantle, it's that it's already completed.
>>332204706
Claiming they "share the same core API" is baloney. That would be pretty much plagiarism if they did that. While all 3 do have low level API as the main focus, it's not the same as sharing the same coding.
>>332206246
Why? Because the truth hurts too much?
Seriously, you should sell those cards before Polaris to at least get something for that waste.
>>332185918
>AMD vs NVIDIA fanboys war begins!
Should I buy this card or fuc*ing wait for the 1070????????????
Consider I dont want to wait for more than 6 months
>>332206439
Well first off, watch dogs is horribly optimized. And 2nd everyone knows and this thread already spoke about how AMD CF is ahead of Nvidia SLI.
>>332198429
>hurrdurr I pretend AMDs well known problems don't exist
Holy shit the shilling is real. As an owner of 290X xfire I can tell you, it's a huge let down as I too ran into all the problems AMD is known for. No, you don't know what you're -doing-. You're running a single display system, you're not running VR, you're not using any kind of 3d capture input. AMD sucks donkey dick at all of these and everyone knows it. Stop being a shill, or did you get those as review samples aka the shilling is real?
If you're building a basic rig with one monitor (Don't into freesync it's bad) without doing anything that isn't considered just basic use outside of gaming... You don't go AMD. You're just gonna have problems.
Nvidia isn't perfect but they build their flagships keeping in mind whom these are being sold to. Enthusiasts, devs, designers etc. People who -are- going to run crazy setups like 5 monitors, VR HMDs, shit like windows kinect or other 3d capture input. And it all just works until you're getting way out there.
Fuck off AMD shill, you triggered me with your blatant disregard of AMDs issues which do not apply to most - But those that they do, the product isn't worth a dime and you'd know this if you weren't some sperglord gaymer who does nothing with their hardware.
>>332185918
A part from the 3.5GB meme...which is the best mark of this card?
>>332205279
For $200 you get the performance you pay for
A 280 will play a lot of things on high, but for very demanding games like Witcher 3 you'll need good hardware to run them with a decent frame rate
If you want to max AAA games coming out this year, $300 is the starting point
>>332204302
I bet he didn't even own a amd card and he's just making up a bunch of bullshit to shit on amd as hard as he can.
>>332186245
X70?
few months? HOW Many? 2? 4? 11?
>>332206565
I'm running a system with 2 1080p monitors and UHD display.
Still no problems. You just don't know what you are doing. deal with it.
>>332206708
Sometime between now and December
Nvidia will most likely announce it at a conference next month, but when it ships we don't know yet
>>332206550
AMD CF is ahead of SLI, it's one reason why I even bothered. Where they aren't ahead is actually supporting it. Nvidia still releases profiles faster than AMD. And even with them being ahead, 3rd card scaling is still shit.
>>332206565
> claims amd has issues
> keeps shitting on amd without actually naming a single issue
Just your usual nvidiot shitposting post.
>>332186438
970 is also the best card with emulators
>>332206727
Uhh pretty obvious they're talking about eyefinity bro. You autistic or something?
>>332203383
I bought it used, it was cheap as dirt.
>>332206871
>eyefinity
Of course, but that is goal posting, and goal posting deserves a shit posting response to trigger.
>>332190241
You have to upgrade nvidia drivers, dood
>>332206820
havent tried any of that but it sounds like the issues were stated? multimonitor gaming, vr, 3d capture? dunno if its any better on one or the other but you just cant read i think anon
>>332206859
I honestly don't know why nvidiots always claim they are the best with emulators. I've never had a single issue running emulators on amd cards.
What exactly makes nvidia cards better than amd for.... emulators?
>>332206814
Indeed....Dec...atm the X70 is the best way
>>332207026
>multimonitor gaming, vr, 3d capture?
This is a bunch of bullshit lies. I run 2 monitors and one hdtv all the time on my card. Passed the VR steam test with very high and I regularly record my gameplay while I play.
The poster is just a typical nvidiot making up lies about amd like in every thread.
>>332207056
OPENGL :D
>amdiot
>>332207026
>claims CF is a meme
>brings up multi-monitor gaming
That my friend is called retardation.
>VR
Again retardation which we don't even fully have yet
>3d capture
More retardation
>>332206974
>goal posting
Except plenty of us here use NVSurround/Eyefinity anon. And I can tell you from personal experience stay the fuck away from AMD if you want to do pic related. The amount of ini changes, executable hex editing, constant crashes in anything with goyimwerks + 5760x1080 or higher is a nightmare. It's fine for single monitor but my god, who gets flagship cards to use on a single display?
I'd go AMD again if they pull their heads out of their ass thinking they can charge $700 for a GPU that can't run 3x 1080p properly. What the fuck is the Fury / Fury X even for?
>>332207056
If you play snes emulator is pretty much the same...you should try PCSX2/Dolphin and newset Xenia/RPCS3
AMD cards are turds
>>332207293
What's so great about OPENGL ?
I still run all my emulators with no issues on amd regardless of this OPENGL or not. What makes this OPENGL so much better on nvidia cards that amd suck at emulators?
>>332207387
>thinks Nvidia is any better
As someone who has owned Nvidia Surround and AMD eyefinity systems.
AMD is the best choice by far.
>>332207435
OGL is the most accurate backend
>>332207387
>TW3
>multi-monitor
>shit loads of forced Tessellation
This is a meme post, only respond further with
>(You)
>>332206565
No use arguing with AMDcucks, anon. They are so triggered by negative statements about their cards that they can't form rational arguments.
>>332207387
Support is garbage on both sides for that setup.
Triple monitor gaming is dog shit anyway though so who gives a fuck. I wasted money on a third monitor that I never use to try it out. I wish I got a 3440x1440 monitor instead. Better experience and far less hassle.
>>332207478
Ever tried emulators?
>>332207231
>Passed VR test
>Doesn't own a VRHMD to actually attempt
Let us know when you actually -use- one. My DK2 had tons of issues on my 290x. Works fine on my 980Ti. HUH WHUDDATHUNK.
>Again doesn't know what people mean when they say multi monitor gaming
You retarded bruh?
> record my gameplay while I play.
That isn't 3d capture input you fucking plebian retard.
Are typical AMD customers this autistic?
>>332206415
>It's not that they stopped development of Mantle, it's that it's already completed.
Mantle is currently pwoering AMD's LiquidVR tech - a factor into why AMD is generally beating Nvidia for VR.
>>332207687
Yup, no issues there.
>>332207650
I resent that. We aren't all as stupid as that cuck with 3x290s. Multi-gpu is just a shit workaround no matter what. Maybe things will change with DX12 but I still have doubts. It's just too niche to bother with.
>>332207663
I have no issues with 5760x1080... Maybe you should lrn2computer? Using nvidia, never tried amd cards since like early 2000 when they were still ATI.
>>332207707
Prove you own 290x and 980ti.
