Why does /v/ hate this game so much?
it's just a meme
it's basically the best game ever made and the closest thing we'll ever get to a true adventure
>>332167038
>>332166931
>>332167038
But Oblivion's better
>>332166931
TELL ME LIES TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcjpags7JT8
>>332167224
>a literal disaster
>>332166931
YOU SEE THAT MOUNTAIN? YOU CAN GO AND CLIMB THAT MOUNTAIN
>>332166931
Because it's shit.
>>332166931
NEVER SHOULD'VE COME HERE
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xq5lu8_the-elder-scrolls-v-pokemon_videogames
THEY BELIEVED THEY DIDN'T EXIST
>>332167038
>it's basically the best game ever made
I don't think so. It has some very, very good aspects but also some flaws.
>A couple boring quests
>some annoying dialogue
>uninteresting hand to hand combat
>ugly armour designs
>some broken quests (Arniel Gane's Endeavor)
>other stuff I can't remember now
Its very popular, very overrated and its probably the closest thing to a RPG a lot of normies and gamers have played. It can be midly entertaining until you ralice its awfully mediocre and shallow, not even loads of mods will fix it, only make you waste more time on it
i play skyrim every winter, leave my window open so it gets cold then i load up the good survival and camping mods that makes traveling an actual adventure. set up camp by a river, do some fishing, sit by the fire, watch the auroras, and listen to that god tier jeremy soule ambient music.
>>332166931
great game for about 7 hours because you spend 5 of them dicking around 1 hour on story and 1 on random quests, then you realize that its nothing but fetch quests and dungeon crawling fetch quests. The game is a disappointment after the initial new game wonder, thats why people dislike iti still have 400 hours play time on xbox and PC
Altmer master race.
>>332166931
because it's "too casual" and "too popular".
/v/ hates popular shit.
>>332167607
>broken display cases and weapon racks in Hearthfire
>mannequins that don't load in the right spots
>invisible items on mannequins
>not so good AI for followers
>fucked up prices for things that should be valuable, such as jewellery, which makes looting less fun
>Towns are ridiculously small
>landscape is pretty empty
>Parts of Skyrim don't fit into how they were shown or described in previous games
>>332167641
this
The game's basically the equivalent of eating potato for every meal of the day.
Combat is main reason for me. So boring, no satisfaction Fighting was mainly spammng attacks, with little to no timing.
No athletics skill.
>>332169014
elder scrolls have always had shit melee combat
they know this which is why they remade the magic and why stealth archery is the most used method
>>332166931
It's unplayable without mods
I've got it modded so that I basically get 2-3 shot by strong enemies. It makes combat fun since if you fuck up you die. For added difficulty I try to avoid using potions unless I can get some distance between me and an enemy first.
It's entertaining to stun lock and time block, since I don't have a shield I either land a timed block or get staggered and take lodsadamage.
I also have it on Master difficulty because it was still too fucking easy on Adept.
I also don't use stealth archery or sneaking.
>>332166931
I recently installed requiem and a bunch of immersion mods.
I was having a blast going around hunting animals, having intense fights with bandits and being a poor fuck.
Until I was high level enough to take on the next challenge.
Sadly the immersion vanished as soon as I tried doing some quests or speaking with NPCs because everything and everyone is just a hollow husk.
I've never seen a game that has so much potential and yet is completely ruined by the horrible writing.
>>332166931
i hate it because 255 mod limit is not fucking enough
why do half of these mods need 23924 patch .esps
>>332166931
I know I'm going to get shit for this, but I like skyrim and oblivion equally.
They're both fucking fantastic.
modding the game is more fun than actually playing
The vanilla game lacks features of the previous entries, it's a mix of less content and those who don't like change. Fair enough I say.
It's PC it's a different story. You can make the game pretty much whatever you want it to be, whether it be more of a survival experience where the weather can kill you and combat is fast and brutal or the best roleplaying fantasy porn game of all time
Reminder that you can't use the Zelda Cycle excuse because it's not the newest one anymore
Skyrim was total fucking garbage. When the only way to improve the game is to ignore the Main Quest so the fucking dragons never appear you know you made a shit game.
Because it's shallow as hell.
You fight a rat the same way you fight a dragon... or a bandit, bear or mudcrab.
The only way to get some enjoyment is to be a stealthy archer, as you actually have to pay attention to enemies' locations, shadows and aiming.
And even that gets boring pretty quickly.
>>332170721
I think people are really giving the game a much harder time than it deserves. It's not an amazing masterpiece by any metric, but it's hardly a turd either.
Most people probably got too hyped for their own good and the resulting disappointment embittered them to the point of shunning the game.
>>332169852
I never understood the class argument. Weren't classes just pre-set configurations of skills and attributes?
>>332170884
No it really is a complete turd of a game.
>>332171082
No, a game like Big Rigs is a complete turd. Skyrim is perfectly playable, has a lot of content (quantity-wise, quality is of course debatable) and the world design could even be called great.
>>332167224
>More is better
>Quantity over quality
Anon, we covered this on school already.
>>332169852
Please see >>332171326Faggot
the todd method:
>add some graphics
>gut some features
>never explain reasoning
>never respond to criticism
You have to experience the true lies of Todd and Bethesda to fully realize where the complete and utter resentment for Bethesda comes from. A lot of people don't share it, I for one think Oblivion and Skyrim have good parts. Skyrim's flaws are woefully apparent post-play however, I don't know why I didn't notice the glaring flaws the first time I played it but it's there now: the complete lack of consequence and choice, the lack of content that was probably planned and much more.
Remember the "preview"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSL-r9AIEEU
"Sabotage economies", "radiant questing", buzzwords to spark hype that we forget while playing. It's what Todd always does. There's no real economy in the game and almost nothing you do affects the world with some few minimal exceptions. What you do, generally, doesn't matter one fucking bit. Winning the civil war? Change of guards and a jarl or two. The tech demo makes it seem it's not nearly as casual as it is.
I'm sure someone with the same assets as Bethesda could've made Skyrim into an amazing game. But we're dealing with Bethesda. I guess what pisses me off is the wasted potential.
>>332169852
>Having pre-defined classes is better than just doing the fuck you want
And people then complains about games being linear and limited.
>>332166931
I don't hate it, I put quite some time in and had some fun with it I must admit. But there are a lot of things wrong with it imo. But what I was most dissapointed with is that the quests (that includes just about every major questline) just weren't very good and certainly not on par with previous TES games imo. They should never have bothered with those shit radiant quests and focused more on the writing. Also a lot of things were dumbed down, lack of unique feeling equipment, shittier destruction magic, + a thousand little things i was just a bit bothered with.
>>332171481
That's the way they do it.
Remember hyping up the fight with dragons?
Remember Oblivion's Radiant AI?
Remember blowing up Megaton in F3?
Remember building your own fort in F4?
They lure people in with some gimmick, which always turns out to have little-to-no impact on gameplay or story.
It's just there so people will buy the game.
>>332167670
You're an idiot.
>skyrim comes out
>everyone on /v/ suddenly loves oblivion
>fallout 4 comes out
>everyone on /v/ suddenly loves new vegas
Don't worry /v/ will love this game when TESVI comes out.
>>332171620
Dragons are fun though, better than settlement building.
>>332172741
>>fallout 4 comes out
>>everyone on /v/ suddenly loves new vegas
Bullshit, a good portion of /v/ always loved NV.
>>332171552
choosing a class is one of the options in Morrowind, you can also pick up whatever skills you want and create your own class
faggot
>>332173703
yeah anon, let's rewrite history together!
>>332173805
You're already trying to do it by speaking out of your ass.
>>332166931
Ignore the haters. /v/ will continue hating popular new franchise. Even if they made TESVI like Morrowind 2.0, they will still bitch about the game, and how the game is bad compared to TESV: Skyrim.
It is just a continuous cycle of hating new games of the series while being blinded by nostalgia of older games of the series.
>>332173703
This is true, but the cycle is real. It has nothing to do with /v/ being contrarian, just with underagefags growing up, discovering 4chan, and romanticizing games from their childhood.
>>332173717
so basically classes are pointless?
>>332174057
This has nothing to do with a shitton of anons liking New Vegas pretty much from the get go, because of Obsidian working on it and because it was an overall improvement on FO3.
>>332171481
thicccc
>>332173885
everyone on this board complained about the map pushing you in a certain direction to follow the sory in the way they want you to and the SJW writing
sure, you always had a few vocal contrarians and trolls, but the general opinion was that NV was shit, not worse than 3 though
>>332166931
I dont hate it. Skyrim is amazing.
Works perfect as barbie dressup simulator and for people who want to RP by artificaly limiting themselves. With mods ofc
>>332174607
who is this pizza geisha
>>332174443
>map pushing you in a certain direction to follow the sory in the way they want you to
There was a push? Granted I only played NV once when it released and then dropped and forgot about it, but I'm pretty sure there was no push as to where you're supposed to be heading.
>SJW writing
What was SJW'ish about it? Also, wasn't 2011 the year when the whole SJW shit started blasting all over every board and not 2010?
