Did this game fix Invasions?
Gonna rant a bit, but my introduction to the Souls series was some faggot from DeS with a Scraping Spear invading me, breaking my shit, rolling off a cliff, and then messaging me on Psn telling me to suck shit. I loved it. Mad as hell, but I loved it. Ever since DeS though, it seems like they have intentionally tried to make invasions worse and worse. You can't get the Red Eye Orb in Dks1 until endgame, Dks2 had no Red Eye Orb and Soul Memory, and don't even get me started on Bloodborne's mess of an invasion system (though I do appreciate them at least trying to do something different there).
I've heard good things about Dks3 and admittedly I play these games like 95% for Pve, but will I get to show noobs the Souls experience I had? I always thought invasions was supposed to be part of the experience, but has crybabies who whine about these games being "hard" ruined invasions for the series forever? Please tell me its at least a little better...
DeS to Dks invasions are so much of an improvement that something as simple as a red eye orb [which I'm pretty fucking sure you could rush to get it if you wanted to] should hardly matter
not really
>>332137615
Dks1 had the best quality invasions for sure, but my point is more that you had unlimited invasion potential in DeS right out the gate. Every game since has consistently limited it more and more until there is hardly a point to it by Dks2/BB
>>332137819
>>332137395
Guess I should have clarified that a bit more. I'm aware DeS and Dks1 had some busted ass invasions, but at least there was a point and at least you weren't severely limited in how much you could do it. Thats what I was wondering if Dks3 had fixed. Sorry if I didn't make that clear in the OP
>>332137819
All you needed to do was kill sif and then go and kill 4kings and offer 10 humanity to get the red eye orb, which took at most 2-4 hours to do if you know your shit
>>332138094
Yes I'm aware, but that isn't my point at all. If you read literally any of my posts you'd see that I'm not complaining about Dks1, I think it is the best one, it just is unarguably limited in how much you could invade until you got the orb (something you won't know how to get first playthrough) and that has gotten worse over the series.
>>332137395
It seems like Dark Souls 1 but busier with more phantoms to help kill invaders and more limitations on your pool of invadees(must have lower upgraded weapon).
Judging from what I've seen it's
des(most dickability) > das 1(rather normal requirements) > das 3 > the other games that have just shit invasion mechanics.
>>332138610
Well that's something at least. So is invasions unlimited like in DeS or is cracked orbs still a thing?
>>332138857
Unlimited and I think you get the orb fairly early. You can use it regardless of what covenant you are in, from what I've gathered.
But because the host can have 4 people helping him kill you though, kind of ruins it. And you can't twink unless you're okay with having less potential invasions.
It looks really laggy too, like every strike has +1 foot beyond where you should be able to hit.
>>332139069
Just so long as I can consistently do it throughout the game already makes it leagues better than Dks2 and BB. Shame about the lag and shit though.
What is this about weapons though? Like, you can't invade people with lower level equipment than you?
>>332139419
You have to have a lower weapon enchant than them or something, like +4 longsword can't invade a +1 longsword host.
It does seem leagues better but it doesn't seem as captivating as the two first Souls games, to me anyway. The dreary graphics get to me too. I'll be trying it this week so hopefully my mind changes, else I'll justpirate it.
>>332139419
You can't invade anyone whose weapon has less upgrades than you.
you can literally only invade people if they summoned a phantom
so it's all a forced gankfest
>>332139887
>He fell for the reddit meme
>>332139594
>>332139592
That's really stupid. I also just read that you can't be invaded unless you are in co-op? If that's so, then its BB all over again. I've done like 3 playthings of that game and I've only ever been invaded one time because of the way that game handles invasions, its asinine. Kind of a bummer...
>>332139887
ninja'd me
>>332139974
Elaborate. Or are you being an ass?
>>332139592
>>332139594
Can you change your weapon after you invade?
>>332140105
>>332140184
You can invade someone alone. Someone who summons two phantoms can be invaded by TWO people.
>>332140268
That's a relief if true. Gankfests are one thing cuz you are kind of the one being a dick as an invader, it isn't supposed to be fair. But it'd really annoy me to play through the game without ever being invaded myself, love that shit.
Nothing feels better than wrecking someone trying to ruin your game
Posting shitty invasion webm!
>>332140676
It gets better.
>>332140883
Did he just...? I like what I think i'm seeing here
>>332140797
ugh, i hate how the characters appear to slide around like that
what is this, fucking oblivion?
I will never understand what the hell was so wrong with Demon's Souls multiplayer system that they feel the need to keep fucking with it.
Or even the Blue invaders from DkS1 to go after the reds.
How about this:
A reusable friendly "summon me" item (blue eye stone)
A reusable invasion item (red)
A "go help so-and-so who was invaded by a red" item (dorkmoons/blue sentinels)
A "summon a coward who's running around in spirit/hollow form into your world to kill them" item (variation of gravelords/rat kings that is actually implemented right)
A dueling item for fight clubs and tournies.
You can only summon in human form. You can only be summoned in undead form.
No more of anything more complicated than this is necessary. What would be wrong with this?
The thing that annoyed me about invasions/PVP was it was just the same old shit everytime.
>Some idiot with a aku aku mask appears
>Try to have a cool, skill based fight
>He just tries to circle behind you for the easy back stab
>Circle him opposite to prevent the back stab
>Oops, he got the back stab anyway due to lag
I have had some good/fun fights that made Demon/Dark souls some of the best PVP around, but 95% of it the time it's complete rubbish.
>>332141468
Its bad connections.
>>332141501
>You can only summon in human form. You can only be summoned in undead form.
This is retarded.
>>332141649
I hope you're right, I don't remember any of the other games having that problem
Also does anyone know if blue sentinels actually work this time? I might join them if so
>>332141501
>human form and undead form
Other than this, I agree. Like I said in the OP, its just gotten progressively worse throughout the series. All the games needed was better balancing, they never had to change the damn summon system for EVERY game.
>>332140883
>>332141185
Pretty sure this guy got a glitch that made him a red in his own world.
Can you keep playing after beating the final boss, like DaS2?
Is the Raime Armor set back?
>>332141962
Yes
Don't know
>>332141947
Figured it had to be something like that. That would have been hilarious to do...for like...3 times I guess.
I would post the webm of PvP where there's at least 6 or so people going at it with Sunbro's, and dorkmoons, reds, and dank GR@P3S but I dont have it on file for ya
>>332137395
>not killing the 4 kings at the beginning of the game at sl1
git gud
>>332137819
>best quality invasions
>the worst netcode
>INVASION FAILED
>half the covenants didn't work
>the gigantic backstab hitboxes
Nigger, what?
>>332145291
Retarded nostalgia. Everyone knows DS2 had best PvP
>>332137395
In DaS3 you can get the red eye orb fairly early. Everyone can use it, it's not limited to a certain covenant. Soul Memory is gone, it uses Soul Level again like DaS, but also looks at the highest level weapon in your inventory. So you can't be invaded at SL5 with a twink with a +10 Zweihander. You can only be invaded in "ember" (same as human) form. So it's basically DaS1 with easier access to invasions and less twinks
post crazy weapon art webbum plz
>>332146659
>bippity boo time for hex mile long katanafags
>>332137734
>netcoding STILL complete shit
c'mon From
>>332146783
>Highest level weapon in your inventory
So what happens if you drop your Rapeblade +20 on the ground and then pick it back up after the invasion search locks onto somebody?
Watching somebody streaming invasions showed that they could still interact with the world right up until they hit the loading screen.
>>332137734
Did they bring the fucking hornet ring back? Are you for fucking real? God damn it.
>>332147025
nah, much more varied than that
>>332137734
>That riposte animation
Is that the hornet ring?
>>332147514
yes, its back in. But there is one that reduce backstabs. It doesn't block it like jester armor in dks2.
>>332141671
So's your mom, but she still works the street just fine.
But yeah, I guess I'm the only one who liked the way that worked in DeS. What form you were in made a huge difference in gameplay, so the multiplayer worked well this way in my opinion. But *only* my opinion, from what I hear everywhere,
>>332140883
>>332141185
>>332141947
I'm 95% positive this is a ring or spell that gives you the appearance of a red phantom when you're not one.
>>332147025
>bippity boo time for wog mile long katanafags
Did you forget 1?
