Hipster devs are now asking from letsplayers to tell people to donate to them so they can create more feelz.
http://www.thatdragoncancer.com/thatdragoncancer/2016/3/24/on-lets-plays
Will facecam people and western devs go to war?
>>332110360
At least something good is coming out of dead cancer kid game, fuck lets plays
If you get incurable highly insufferable cancer would you off yourself /v/?
>>332111661
what are memes if not metastasis of words?
>Cultural Marxists are biggest panhandlers online
How strange. It's almost if they'd like for the state to subsidize their 'content creation'. They probably see youtube as an estranged republic with facecam people as the undeserving lumpenproletariat.
>>332111230
>fuck Let's Plays
Why? I'd rather someone else waste money on a game and show how worthless it was than me having to waste my own time/money. Especially when it comes to pretentious indie games.
>>332112103
>I'd rather someone else waste money on a game and show how worthless it was than me having to waste my own time/money
yet you waste your own time watching it
we have reviews for a reason
>>332112272
>we have reviews for a reason
Would rather see the game in action for myself than believe reviews these days.
>>332112272
>believing reviews
Yeah. 1.5 for DoAX3 was a totally unbiased score from a SJW triggered by a companies marketing ploy
>>332112404
>>332112549
Stop watching shit reviewers
There's enough good ones out there that honestly you should already know and trust at this point
LPs are the new piracy
Reminder that Nintendo was right.
>>332112709
>stop watching shit reviewers
So, do what I have been doing then and keep watching LPs of games I'm uncertain of, gotcha.
>>332112767
Only if your game is a walking simulator. If there's gameplay they are free marketing. There's a reason why even big publishers suck up to facecam people and it's (what a surprise!) pretentious from these nu males to claim anyone would be even viewing their gameplay if not for the person 'playing' it.
/thread
>>332112883
They are always about the personality, hence the face part in the cam people. Most of horror and survival genres today should come with dedicated screen space for the screaming face.
>>332112807
Funny about the whole Nintendo thing is that those LP/youtube channels that have signed up along with them are getting a lot of benefits. Early copies/demos to games, paid trips to NoA HQ, interviews with developers, etc. Shit they wouldn't have gotten even if Nintendo never did anything.
>make a "game" that is actually not a game but just a walking simulator (and a linear one at that)
>be surprised when people just watch it on youtube
If a player does not need to actually play your game in order to experience everything it has to offer, you're doing something wrong. You set out to make a movie or a picture book and somehow accidentally started working on the wrong medium.
I don't understand why developers continue to think this is a good idea. Like, there are LPs of tons of games that sell many copies, and that's because there is a big difference between playing them and watching them.
>>332113450
>Early copies/demos to games
This is something that consumers should revolt against, and I hope Dark Souls 3 release is the first step in that direction.
>>332113631
Visual novels have even less interactive content and yet they tend to sell just fine. It's about the quality of a product. Look how good Journey is for example, I wouldn't want to experience it on youtube.
>>332113757
VNs also provide several options and paths that lead to different outcomes, people can't really watch an entire playthrough of most of those and get the full experience. But a walking simulator with no branching paths, simply holding forward and a couple of button presses is worse than a VN.
>>332113638
Yeah, they are basically becoming just another arm in the industry/marketing area
>>332113757
>Visual novels have even less interactive content
What are you talking about? Most VNs have choices which lead to alternate endings thus adding the main component of gameplay (choice) and also replay value.
A linear "game" with no choice that impacts the story and no mechanical challenge is way less of a "game" than a VN that at least has one of those things.
>>332114220
but their baby had cancer, anon
doesn't that make you want to buy the game? so you can learn about the baby getting cancer?
>>332113757
>Visual novels have even less interactive content
That's not true, I have never seen a walking simulator with as much content as the average VN has. These shitty western indie games last like 2 hours, meanwhile even a visual novel without a lot of choices can take ten hours or more to complete all the routes.
>>332113638
That in itself is a double edged sword I suppose.
Did Bandai not limit the amount of content that early adapters could show? Or are people just butthurt that someone out there got a copy before them?
>>332114659
If your purchased copy of a game is held back so a facecam screamer can 'market' it, that's not butthurt, that's making you into a second class citizen.
>>332114220
VNs are even less interactive than choose your own adventure books. Hell, you can call those books interactive video games with haptic feedback.
>>332110360
>But we underestimated how many people would be satisfied with only watching the game instead of playing it themselves.
How the hell would they not have known this. This isn't something new, especially for indie shit. If people don't think "this game looks good, I should try it out" then you have no one else to blame but yourself.
>>332114904
>VNs are even less interactive than choose your own adventure books
They are literally the same thing.
>>332110360
If you make something that isn't a game, you shouldn't be surprised when people don't really want to play it.
Both of them can rot for all I care.
>>332114659
Of course they didn't, and even if they did, what the fuck are they going to do if a streamer decides to show off the entire game? Cry about it?
A large part of the Souls series is discovery. Those first few weeks where no one knows anything about the game are the best times to play it.
Now all that's out the window because the entire game is out there in multiple streams weeks before the people who actually paid for the damn thing can even play it.
It's absolute bullshit and it completely soured me on DS3.
>>332112549
It's still not above a 4/10.
It has minimal content and no gameplay.
Hey guys, want some pizza?
what are they going to make? zombie Joel?
>>332111661
work all I can before being completely unable to do it. Give all the money to my family use a little of that money to buy some weed, smoke weed. Then buy a gun, summon Persona
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>>332112549
It got a 1.5 because it was a shit game.
>>332116203
>make a movie
>call it a game
You know, it's about time for another crash.
>>332116203
>people that share a genetic structure with me think that the witness is worth fucking $40
>>332116819
>it's managed to sell over 500k
>>332117392
only sold tops 100k on pc
>console niggers
>>332116203
>value of a game is still unreasonably focused on raw play time
Wow, it's almost like people want to get their money's worth. What a crazy fucking idea.
>>332116819
>indie devs make shitty overpriceed game
>nobody plays their shit
>call gamers entitled
Why are developers always projecting like this?
They aren't entitled to anything if there is no demand for what they are doing. Do they even know what a free market is?
>>332118216
Didn't this happen not however long ago?
>>332118216
more like
>indie devs make shitty overpriced game
>sells 500k
??????
>paradigm shift happens here
>>332110360
Nosferatu was an ace movie.
>>332118347
What?
>>332118568
Some other indie fags tried making an orange tinted Gone Home clone IIRC, and when it didn't sell, they threw a hissy fit and blamed Capitalism.
>>332118383
>Still whines about muh pirates
When will California's tech hipster bubble finally burst?
>>332118216
If they were smart they would look at WHY it isn't selling. Not blame gamers.
>>332118679
>even have access to handouts/patreon
>>332111820
>>332112272
>we have reviews for a reason
The best thing about let's plays and streams is that they are cutting into the reviewers traffic. At least with an LP or stream you get a long, undoctored look at a game. With a review you still have people shilling for shit like all expenses paid trips to play the next game. Not that streamers are without bias, but fuck those glorified bloggers.
>>332118732
possibly never because they are backed by the kike illuminati
The game isnt even about a baby getting cancer. Its about the father struggling with his faith. That makes it even more disgusting.
>>332115525
>super thick dough
No.
>>332113185
>implying the LP audience cares about gameplay
>>332119720
Italian scum. Deep dish is the shit.
>>332119720
>Expecting american pizza to not be shit
>Expecting american anything to not be shit
They don't make pizza over there to make something that tastes godlike, they make pizza to fill the fat gullets with as much shit as possible. I bet they don't even use a bit of semolina for the crust.
>>332120571
Apparently you have never gotten a pizza from Marco's.
>>332116203
>gamers are entitled for wanting their money's worth and having standards
>>332120571
Don't you have hordes of refugees to worry about, eurocuck?
>>332110360
Looks fun.
Hoping to see more late game Orc gameplay before release.
>>332120173
That's not deep dish and deep dish doesn't have thick dough. You're a moron.
>>332120571
>Italians unironically thinking ANYONE likes their shit "mediocre sauce on cardboard" pizza
There's a reason American style pizza is the global standard, eurocuck. Now go tend to Mohammad while the rest of the world enjoys actually good food.
>>332116203
>I'll make a strawman to better support my argument
every time
>>332116203
They are trying to make a special snowflake category for their 'games'. Steam Trust and Safety Council when?
>>332116203
>gameplay is not the sole standard for definition of a video game
valuable insight
>>332118419
Herzog's is even better than Murnau's.
>tfw no one donates to my 4chan post patreon
God damn you privileged capitalist SWINE, being able to quote it and apply (You)s is a form of gameplay. I'm producing content here, acknowledge me with shekel or two.
>>332119463
reviews (non-gaming media ones) are still better than let's plays which is the laziest form of 'entertainment' and just a crutch for shoddy reality tv-like 'content'. it's panhandling and it's funny that devs who call them out also want a slice of panhandling shekels.
This is exactly like 'pirated copy = lost sale' fallacy.
>>332112103
>Not pirating to try
What are you some sort of faggot?
>>332126359
>pirating in a not-shit country
It's like you want to pay hundreds in fines or something.
>>332126931
>Countries which uphold the tyranny of corporations over the well being of their citizens are "not-shit"
You crack me up anon, you really do.
>>332126931
I hoard multiple TB of pirated media, in commiefornia, on comcast, and have never even been served a C&D letter
I can't believe these developers are actually retarded enough to think people are watching LPs of their game because they want to see what the game is like, and not because they have a particular LP personality they prefer to watch all of the content they shit out.
>>332120571
>I don't know anything about American pizza
There's so much good shit here, even Papa John's(which isn't even close to being in the upper echelon of USA pizza) is fantastic shit.
Anyone who says that American pizza is all bad probably went to Little Caesars or 7/11 and went back home to their blood sausage and maggot infested cheese.
>>332128612
>i'm a no taste pleb
>>332129053
Yum yum, Euros love the cum!
>>332129115
you're doing nothing other than proving my point by projecting like a 12 year old
>>332128612
You need to get some taste, boy.
>>332129185
>>332129249
My taste is fine because I live in America, not a third world(aka European) country and have access to food that isn't smeared in blood, maggots and olive oil.
>>332128039
Cultural marxism is always a mixture of obliviousness and agenda.
>>332110360
>Will facecam people and western devs go to war?
THAT SON OF A BITCH BROUGHT THE
WAR.
TO.
US.
You know what is the problem? The problem is thoses games are shit, so people watch LPs not because the game is good, is because they like the youtuber.
>>332114659
>Did Bandai not limit the amount of content that early adapters could show?
only on pc.
oh and the xbone version (bought on the jap store but with english text through some exploit or something) is apparently a nerfed press version because it didn't get the day one patch yet
This is how you tell the artists from the hacks. A real artist doesn't care about money, sure, they'd love to make millions like that chink fellow who got paid in Facebook stock, but they're happy with just expressing themselves in their chosen medium.
