Holy fucking shit this looks amazing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzFcpQTEVAk
This shit is in alpha?
AHaha
What the fuck
>>332069426
multi-crew seamlessly mixed with FPS is going to be epic. I'm already about $800 into the game now. Should I pledge another $300 for this?
I WOULD LIKE TO MEET THE FULL GAME YOU COCKSUCKING MONEY BURNING JEWS
>>332069426
>its a ship preview
I like where SC is going as much as the next deluded faggot but seriously?
Bugger off.
>>332069539
> dumping cash down the shitter like this
jesus, are star citizen fags are worse than Bernie bros at this point
The butthurt from SC cult members towards anyone even slightly critical in the /r/games thread is predictable as fuck
https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/4c0e2f/star_citizen_alpha_23_meet_the_starfarer_trailer/
>>332069426
I hate all the space ships designs in SC
I really dont know how they did it, I cant think of any other game with space ships where I can actually say that. Even EvE which I consider to have a shitton of ugly ships has a few redeeming ones, but this game is utterly fucking ugly with every single ship.
They are so edgy, and I dont mean that in some shitty meme way but literally have so many edges it looks like a clusterfuck of pointless clutter on all the ships. Or its so utterly smooth it looks like a fucking dildo. And all the ships have these massive indents of space between important parts like engines to the hull creating all these huge pointless gaps.
>>332069732
>linking to reddit
End yourself.
>>332069426
when the alpha gets a economy and i'm able to work myself up from the starter ship is the only time i will get invested into the game.
people paying 100+ dollars just to get ships that are earn able is stupid.
plus who doesn't want to work himself up from a beginner ship, its the journey not the destination.
eve mentality on all these nerds with dispensable income.
>>332069842
this. reddit is for grown men. stop sending stupid fucks from this site there to vote brigade.
>>332069868
>plus who doesn't want to work himself up from a beginner ship, its the journey not the destination.
um maybe because i want to invest in the future of this genre? because i believe in the vision of the project, and want to become part of a world larger than just myself?
>>332070395
>invest in the future of this game
Never ever gonna be released. Keep throwing your shekels at the game though maybe you can play it when your kids graduate college
>>332070395
nigga listen if they had like 100k-1mil our something, our were barely coming making it i would understand. but they get 110 mil, you know what kind of money that is.
and this is before release, at release when or when they show something worth taking like beta people will mass buy it too.
what you are saying is "aah yeah ill buy windows 10 + all their small little things from Microsoft store from Microsoft cause they need the money for their vision"
star citizen is basically Microsoft with all this money they get, and now i understand their vision got bigger but if they are not able to do it with this 110 mil i dont know man.
i will give it the benefit of the doubt because swtor cost 200 mill to make, but a lot of that is marketing & voice acting which sc is also getting.
+ don't think they aren't reinvesting some bit of money they get into getting more.
They make more money now from being in development than they ever will selling copies or subscriptions to the final product. They pretty much have no incentive to wrap up development.
>>332069539
>800 dollars
No, but you can buy me one. All I have is a lowly Aurora.
Is it time to reinstall?
I got 2.0 at the time but it just felt like a glorified tech demo.
>>332071852
The alpha runs like shit still. Just wait a bit more.
>>332069732
> folks argument how SCs newtonian physics flight model is the only pure approach
this is why no one does anything except jousting for combat. who thinks this is fun?
i've done enough heavy hauling in elite to be good for a lifetime on that front. the combat in sc with its radically differing flight model will be the shit, though.
four lti fighters of various sizes should keep my desires sated.
>>332072327
Elite has really failed on instances for me. They're just 100% empty. Your choices are either asteroid fields or stations, nothing else. I hope SC will be able to get that right.
>>332072513compromisednavigationbeacons
>>332072636
See the issue is that falls in line with my other two examples. They're full of nothing but NPCs to the backdrop of a star. I want to see activity in an instance. But unfortunately because of supercruise I doubt that will ever happen.
When is native VR support coming? That's the whole reason I originally supported SC and bought a thrustmaster
>>332072049
All space combat is inherently fucked because its a vacuum, the single most boring type of setting there is.
>>332069868
This nigga gets it. Most of my enjoyment of Freelancer came from starting with a nugget of a ship and slowly getting bigger and better ones. Starting the game already with the best ships is like buying those instant max level characters in WoW, it seems so boring and idiotic to me.
>Tfw paid money for this
Why am I so dumb
>>332072821
ever raided a surface base with a couple other dudes?
fought inside a conflict zone with a farragut or majestic present?
these are a couple other facets of that kind of gameplay. you can argue that it's empty, but what else does it need?
do you want to be constantly other than occasionally bombarded by people seeking your services? political intrigue to play out across public channels of random sections of space? more assassins to be hunting your ass? i've had a fer-de-lance track me across multiple systems before prior to shunting it out of FSD and killing it after it admitted to hounding my ship.
i'm at a loss for what sort of activity you feel is so critically lacking.
defense platforms and different types of stations that can be destroyed and attacked?
even more ships? cnbs can get very, very dense.
other players, maybe? cmdrs are quite spread out.
the game isn't frontier or first encounters, even if its aiming to shore up all of the content to be equally accessibleso long as you've paid the troll toll
water worlds and gas giants that can be descended into are more or less imminent, exactly how interesting each of these facets will be remains to be seen.
i've never been fucked with over a rock before, which would have been cool.
as far as i'm aware, you will eventually be able to descend or land on each variety of world. hopefully there will be more onus to do so, as i've moved past anything related to horizons being truly profitable. the game is far from perfect, but in my eyes it's even further away from being anything close to boring or bad.
the hotas must help.
>>332073432
Some people just have massive, throbbing boners for capital ships and there's literally only one game on the market that really even tries to stroke that woody.
>>332069426
who the actual fuck thinks the flight and combat model of this shit is anywhere near fun? If elite had fps elements I'd definitely buy it but sc is pretty shit.
>>332073591
> butthurt neckbeard E:D fanboy cuck
this is why SC will win
>>332073089
>tfw there will never be a game where you use specialized ships and vehicles designed to fight for specific planets with unique features and environments
>>332073591
Plax get the fuck out
>>332073964
>what is infinity battlescape
>>332073865
i'm in deep with both, and they have individual merits, anon.
elite just has actual progression and advancement as a pilot that's persistent at the moment, and will only grow larger in scope.
sc isn't really out yet, but i've done my part in funding it.
>>332071348
they originally planned for a 200k budget with the kickstarter
with its flight and combat mechanics, I suspect sc is gonna be nothing more than dayz in space.
>>332073647
Believe me, so do I, but I'd much rather work my way towards it over the course of weeks or months as opposed to pledging to get it and having it from the very start of the game. The payoff when you finally get that thing you've been working towards for an extended period of time is more than worth the effort to me.
Some guy posted this today. I don't know whether it is true, but still. What do you think?
>>332073591
>Raided a surface base
No, fuck horizons
>fought inside a conflict zone
You mean an empty zone with a backdrop, possibly two capital ships if you're lucky?
I want to enter an instance which spans a planet. Around that planet I want to be able to travel and encounter multiple things. Ranging from satellites to pirate bases to trading hubs to coriolis stations.
>>332074215
For these people that "extended period of time" has been fifteen or twenty years already, if not longer.
>>332074290
The game even lags on some high-medium end computers on low settings. I wouldn't wanna see the result.
>>332074215
>The payoff when you finally get that thing you've been working towards for an extended period of time is more than worth the effort to me.
this is exactly what ive been tellimg my mom when she asks me why i keep sending money to SC and to bernie.
> it's called a fucking investment you dumb bitch
>>332074404
With the singleplayer Crusader hack a while back, it was running smooth as butter on medium computers, even on pretty demanding settings.
The problem is known to be networking / packet bloat, not graphical load.
>>332074353
your previous statement on how supercruise constrains things does legitimately apply to your desire for a sort of orbital instance which would be peppered with interesting shit.
prior games didn't feature the in-system torus drives described in the lore, and revolved around functionally time skipping to get anywhere serious. this mechanic wouldn't be compatible with anything multiplayer-related, though, so the modern FSD was thought up to bridge the gap.
i think that stray installations might be cool showing up as unidentified, or even clearly identified but not infinitely visible signal sources. what's neat about SC's take on such structures is that you can get out of your ship and go walk around in them, something elite will not have for, i imagine, quite some time yet, if ever.
this is a fundamental thing which renders some of your suggestions a little untenable, not to bash them. it'd be interesting to fly around in such an environment.
SC's definitely your game, though.
>>332074404
Squadron 42 is the single-player game, it shouldn't have lag at all. It will get adowngradeif it is coming to consoles though.
>>332074827
My suggestion is just a generalized idea meant to explain what I would want to see in terms of an instance. Because right now instances feel like they are a small portion of space with a single point of interaction (a station, a select area for mining, a select area where a battle is happening). They portrayed space as empty, which is accurate to real life. Unfortunately that doesn't make for a good aspect of a game.
I only wish they could implement something similar to Starsector. But as you said because of that FSD (combined with the seed system and instances making up the entire game) we'll most likely never see that.
Looks cool. Can't wait to play for 2 years to be able to buy it in game.
>>332074970
releasing it on consoles will only increase the player base though, which is needed for the community to grow to its full potential
Why didn't they just take like 5 million, make a something out of like a proper working prototype so see if this shit actually works. And after that another kickstarter "ok, we could do this now we would like to continue the development"
>>332075203
No, not really.
The last thing thats needed is an infusion of 14 year olds and degrading mechanics so that everything can be done with an XB controller.
>>332074290
>"720p, 20fps on PS4"
top kek. What would it be on Xbone then?
>>332075203
is that Shane Diesel? Is he retired now?
>>332075330
That's really cool, reminds me of Earthsiege.
The current system is total shit, I hope they get it in soon.
>>332075163
>They portrayed space as empty, which is accurate to real life. Unfortunately that doesn't make for a good aspect of a game.
I absolutely, completely understand your reasoning behind this assertion, but I couldn't agree less. Call me fucking autistic but actually coping with and beholding the sheer emptiness of it all, and dealing with the fact that there will be places with literally nothing to do, that will never serve economic purpose, and will never have anything interesting is awesome. I've done a fair amount of exploration in the seed-generated emptiness of its simulated milky way, and it was still very interesting and a lot of fun. this will be far from the case for many people.
while it is a game, and will never escape this, i like to think that the title takes itself a tad more seriously than some all-the-time-fighting-shooty-killy off the shelf space game. it forces you to be patient, to wait, often for no reward, to do boring things, cope with the effects of your actions, and at least pushes you to conduct yourself responsibly, whether you're a pirate in a python or a schmuck in an adder. the setting and atmosphere is very dense, but hugely opaque, and this pushes all of my buttons.
every last one of them.
>>332075658
As far as I'm aware its already in the game anon.
I know you can focus on MFDs and control their output.
>>332075658
It's like this now it every single ship, what are you talking about?
>>332069426
You guys could make your own ships in real life with the money you are backing but no instead ,"lets pay some scammer fag that will fuck us in the ass so we can complain in the end.!!
>>332075823
I could make a functioning spacecraft for $30?
>>332075789
>>332075774
Ah, shit. Last time I played it had some awful shit that you had to cycle through one holo display. Maybe I'll reinstall.
Is it still optimized with 2077 GPUs in mind?
>>332069426
>bullshot
>bullshot
>bullshot
>play game
>nothing to do
>buggy, laggy mess
>filled with potential, none of which will be realized
sign me up
>>332073432
maybe this is the state of gaming, the kids are grown up and lets be honest not everyone who plays video games are good at them.
look at wow, buying end lvl and gta 5 with their money cards. our those people buying high level characters in the past on ebay and shit, there is a market for it.
no one wants to "really" work for there achievements in games it should be giving out easily and maybe even a money paywall.
you and me will never understand it, but we never used cheats as kids when we weren't able to work it out.
>>332076019
Not to mention it looks like shit too.
Every user screenshot i've seen of the game has had aliasing all over the place. No matter what resolution. It's just a shit engine.
>>332069426
i backed this 4 years ago where the fuck is the finished game already??
>>332074290
>trust me I'm an insider, jk xD
>>332076338
2017 :^)
>>332076432
2018 ;^)
>>332076316
2019 ;^)
>Play EVE Online for years
>Know the pain of losing a valuable ship
>Star Citizen is eventually released in the year 20XX
>Buy the base game a month or so after release providing the general consensus is good and no huge bugs or failings have been reported
>Spin around in a cheap ship for a while before buying my first real spaceship
>Fly carefully to keep it alive while making money for a new ship
>Meanwhile all the prepurchase niggers with lifetime insurance on all their shiny ships tard about welping their ships left right and centre
>Get swarmed by these suicide retards in disposable ships and lose my ship
>>332073591
problem with E:D is and still gonna be is it's a shitty singleplayer game that isn't really singleplayer, and its a shitty MMO that doesn't really does the MMO part good to.
they should just get rid of solo at this point, i mean there is literately nothing to do in the game atm.
and imo player interactions should fix that, trading in solo is boring as fuck.
trading in open were pirate players are waiting for ya should spice things up, plus trading ships have a risk will they risk losing their shield and weapons just so they can trade more and easier but be undefended?
basically there are no risks in the game, nothing to invest i, no player interaction.
+ forum dad ED shills are the worst kind of audience ever.
>>332075564
> caring about shane deisel
Lexington Steele > Shane
>>332076564
Shoulda bought insurance, nyukka.
>>332076564
>Not being excited to go whale hunting with friends
>>332076574
i look down on playing in solo.getting frisked by a cmdr python for my cargo in a t9 was the best part of the game for me thus far.
>>332076745
Where's the satisfaction in hunting a shiny ship knowing that the owner has lifetime insurance and will be flying a replacement scant seconds after you blow it up?
The thrill of killing a Titan in EVE is knowing that you've just taken thousands of dollars worth of spaceship away from some nerd.
>>332076854
Steal it.
>>332076854
>will be flying a replacement scant seconds after you blow it up?
..Because that 100% won't be happening?
>>332076985
no, it'll take anywhere from a whole 24 hours to maybe a week.he also has four other lti ships.
>>332076854
heard getting a ship back that big won't be as easy as it being spawned into your hanger and take some time.
+ equipment and shit, but i get your meaning.
really would like to see a number of how many big capital ships were sold, so it will still be semi rare.
there was supposed to be a limit, but they saw the money they got and said fuck it.
>>332076854
>scant seconds
I'm not 100% sure how lifetime insurance works but I know they've stated that you'll be waiting for a replacement for that ship relative to the size of it. Anywhere hours to a week I think
Also if you steal it they're never getting it back
Personally, I think the game looks amazing and all of the "vaperware" shitters need to fuck off.
That being said, why the fuck would anybody spend more than $60 on this?
>>332076985
Are you suggesting the devs are going to let people pay hundreds of dollars for an internet spaceship and once it's gone, it's gone?
If this is actually the case, kudos to the devs I suppose. I just don't see them doing it without incurring some kind of unholy tidal wave of piss and tears from the maladjusted manchildren who pledge so much money for an unfinished video game.
More like Scam Citizen.
>>332077102
>Also if you steal it they're never getting it back
first time im hearing this, not sure if this is how it works.
i mean would be cool, but you really think all these people on SC forums and forum dads would accept that ?
their already crying their eyes out their ship they bought isn't a do it all jack of all trades super ship that can't be beaten.
>>332077102
>Also if you steal it they're never getting it back
>What is self-destruct
>>332077170
No, even LTI ships have a replacement time that exponentially increases the more you fuck around with them, and insurance doesn't cover you in certain zones.
Furthermore, LTI only covers the hull and some basic-bitch equipment, which is meant to be several times the hull's worth.
>>332077102
>Also if you steal it they're never getting it back
this isn't the case.
you will not, however, be permitted to effectively duplicate the vessel by allowing others to steal it and then asking for a new one. systemic shit like that will have its lti revoked.
>>332074290
Well, why not? I am only interested in SP and it that's true, I won't be needing a new PC just because one game (if it is even good).
>>332077246
it isn't that hard to steal ships from what i saw on alpha footage.
most of it happends when you dock.
>>332075773
>with the fact that there will be places with literally nothing to do
This isn't the problem. The problem is that the entire game is like that. I guess I'm expecting too much half the time, but I constantly want to see trading hubs, rest stops, bars, etc. Something to indicate that the universe of E:D is actually alive. Even the bubble doesn't feel inhabited half the time. I feel no different going out to Robigo, Draconis or even further past those areas then when I'm in the bubble.
>>332069426
>>332071852
>>332074827
>>332077349
space isn't alive, anon.
just the 'humans' living and dying inside of it.
>>332077442
There are thousands of space stations. Space is definitely alive. They just need to portray it properly. Maybe that will come with season 3.
>>332077442
its still a game senpai.
>>332077531
fingers crossed.
>>332077531
Only another 3 $60 DLCs to go, anon
then maybe it can start to be a game
>>332077335
>Space truckin' crates of military supplies through lawless space in a barge
>Fuck up and get attacked by pirates
>Getting boarded
>Enemies cut through the airlock door
>Greeted by a hundred small blinking lights each attached to a brick of plastic explosive
>Hundreds more bricks rigged to every structure and system of the ship
>The captain emerges smoking a cigar and holding a dead man's switch
>>332077898
it's gonna be one fuck of a game if they actually remain steady with it until then.fortunately ED is where frontier's passion lies, even if they are readying god damn coaster world
>>332077898
>60$
Don't get me wrong, I'm not paying for that shit full price, if I do get them. I can justify 10 dollars though if I feel that the small extra features are good.
Space whale in action
Look at this big mother fucker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXUegQIZBNE
>>332078064
I was joking, it'll never be a good game.
The only "steady" thing about it is Brabenization.
>>332078089
Its like putting a static model in space anon, it won't behave or look like that when its flight ready.
>>332078147
>he isn't on board with the braben, the bell, and the holy vision
>>332078089
dat fukken underbelly
>>332078227
>Static
Did you even watch it?
>>332078227
He flies it at 16 mins of that video.
>>332078383
>>332078334
Yes, and no thruster articulation or any dynamic animations that come with a flight ready ship.
Its the hangar static model.
>>332077170
>maladjusted manchildren who pledge so much money for an unfinished video game
hurr hurr the only people who invest are manchildren
go fuck off back to r/gaming
So where's the gameplay?
>>332079173
>donating money to a videogame is an investment
No, John, you are the reddit.
>>332079230
Theres thousands of videos of gameplay, considering the dogfighting module came out back in June of 2014.
>>332079173
>invest
Confirmed manchild. You aren't 'investing', you're buying an unfinished product and hoping against hope that it will be good, in a world where super hyped AAA releases flop all the time.
I haven't been on /vg/ in months.
Why did /scg/ suddenly die off?
Is /scg/ a banned general now?
>>332079845
Nothing to really talk about. Same with E:D. People gave up making the threads because they would die pretty quickly.
