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it's agreed that the Sahelanthropus is the worst Metal Gear right?
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What's wrong with it?
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Worst in that universe's real world applicability post psychic voodoo shit.

Best in series' designs after Rex.
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The creation of a cuck.
No different from a BLACKED.COM premium subscription.
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>>331987793
Yes

>No buildup
>Dick gun
>Stupid noises (more than usual for Metal Gears)
>All its attacks were retarded (flame sword/whip was retarded)
>Shouldn't have existed
>Worst and most underwhelming fight in Metal Gear history

And lets not get started on Psycho Mantis' role in MGSV, that was just straight-up full retard on Kojima's part.
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Ther biggest ruse Kojima ever pulled was making you retardeds believe he still cared.
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I didn't even realize it was a boss fight.
I didn't even realize you could actually fight it.
I just tried to run away from it the best I could.
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>>331987793
Worst fight, yeah.
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nah the original MG ones are worse
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Looks cool, but it's not nearly as impressive or interesting as any of the other Metal Gears from the 3D games at least. Plus it doesn't fucking work without your easily manipulated psychic child, Skeletonman, you fucking idiot.
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>>331988239
Reply
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>>331988665
what?
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All of the Metal Gears have been pretty good fights.
I did liked its design.
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What the fuck? I thought the boss fight was one of the best in the series
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>>331987994
>No buildup
we all know there would be a Meta Gear in a MGS game, the appearance was awesome, you felt like a shitty ant in front of this monster.
afterwards I agree, we kind of detroy it (?) a few seconds after it, it's not a threat without nuclear, it's the weakest metal gear, retarded whip sword that spawn explosive obsidian (??) morale of the story: it's used by an angry child
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>>331988665
He's talking about D and TX-55 which are complete garbage no matter how you look at them.
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>>331989348
Isn't the point of it to be the weakest metal gear?
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>>331987793
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>>331987852
It couldn't fucking work without using a psychic moving it and only a kid could pilot it because of how small the cockpit
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>>331989479
At least they worked under their own power.
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>>331987852
Can't even run properly without Psycho Mantis
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I think one of the biggest issues with it is how advanced it is compared to REX or RAY. It just doesn't make much sense. Even MGS3 did it right, by making the Shagohod have that ridiculous start-up to even launch a single missile, on top of it's design being just a tank with retarded treads.
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>>331990836
>I think one of the biggest issues with it is how advanced it is compared to REX or RAY
And damn near none of it worked besides the weapons
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Reminder that Sahelanthropus is an allegory for MGSV:TPP itself

>unfinished piece of shit with functions and features incomplete or missing entirely
>created by a hack who lied to himself and everyone around him and convinced himself and maybe a few gullible fucks he's not a terrible person
>rushed out the door by the evil bad guy who had different ideas of how to use it
>takes literal mental gymnastics for it to stand on its own two legs
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>>331987793
Coolest looking one and the most frightening though
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>>331991219
It's like pottery
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>>331987793
This shit looked a lot more threatening when I saw it at night.
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>>331988135
THAT was a boss fight? i really, literally thought i had to get away and that i get to fight it later...fuck me
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>>331988135
>>331992345
confirmed for not having beat the game
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Ray is literally worthless cannon fodder and completely failed its one mission of being able to beat Rex
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>>331987793
I love that it's completly fake and only works 'cuz Mantis makes it work using his powers. That's why it looks so advanced despite being made in the 80s.

I also like how it relates to Skullface's whole bullshit persona. Skullface bullshit everyone at least once, for exemple, He pretends to infect Code Talker's tribe but he doesn't. He says he wants to kill Boss, but is given the chance to do it pleantly of times, but doesn't.

This would probably have been developed better if Kojima had had the time to finish the game and expand this side of Skullface's personality.
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>>331987793
That fucking mission was fucking scary though, so I would say its the scariest Metal Gear.
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>>331991219
BRAVO KOJIMA
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>>331993521
>time to finish the game
This isn't an excuse anymore, the game was in development long enough to be a goddamn masterpiece but Kojima failed to deliver in every way, he's a liar much like Skullface.
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>>331993521
>This would probably have been developed better if Kojima had had the time to finish the game
5 YEARS

Y
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And additional 2 for engine, while he was working on PW. There's no fucking excuse.
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>>331987793
>design
It's just Rex standing on his legs + skull tattoo
>boss patterns
it's shit
>verdict
worst MG ever
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>>331987793
I thought It wasn't finished when you faught it?
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I want to fuck that Metal Gear.
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If non-canon counts
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>>331993521
>had had the time to finish the game
I feel like the biggest reason they didn't finish the game was because they were making Phantom Pain an open world game and the team just didn't have enough experience with the genre. Afghanistan and Africa were huge areas, but with nothing really in them.
A lot of the missions feel like filler episodes, even in Chapter 1, or barely add anything important to the overall plot, and Side Ops weren't nearly as interesting as the ones in Ground Zeroes.
I also think Camp Omega was more interesting than a lot of the bigger locations in Phantom Pain, and a lot of the stuff you could do in Camp Omega wasn't nearly as useful or viable in the big base areas in Phantom Pain. Did Phantom Pain even have guard patrol shifts?

So in the end, I don't think MGSV gained anything by going toward an open world and probably just hurt it instead
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Design:
Rex=Ray>Sahe>>>Shagohod>>>Zeke

Fight
Sahe>>>Ray>>>Rex>Shagohod>Zeke

Excelsius doesn't count, never played MSX games
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What is the purpose of making a robot that can roar.
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Its funny, in 7 fucking years of development nobody of the team tought about what the fuck Metal Gear really did in the game despite being in the literal title. That includes your own Metal Gear that ends doing literally nothing.

Or developing a good antagonist

Or why the fuck Huey did what he did and develope it properly

But hey, there is money for fucking leopard turtle hunting.
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>>331996245
this one makes sense though, it's shitty because it's the late 60's/early 70's and it looks like a moon lander, which was gonna be something mgs3 focused on a lot more

it actually fits the timeline instead of this WE WUZ SUPER SCIENCE BUT DEN DA PATRIOTS TOOK OUR MAGIC PARASITES AND ANIME SUPER ROBOTS AWAY horseshit from peace walker and mgsv
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>>331996779
Because
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>>331996779
in mgs1 it was because otacon loved anime

in mgs2 it was because everyone just copied his design

in mgsv it's because fuck you
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>>331987852
Runs like a girl
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>>331991219
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>>331990836
It ain't advanced, nignog.
Needs a fucking help of a child to make it move an inch, armor is piss poor for "muh bipedal mode" which makes it weaker than the other MGs, and it was created with the sweat and piss of some loser cripple.

Huey was shit from the beginning to the end.
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>>331987793

I'm still in denial that MGSV is such fucking garbage, still can't believe how disappointing this game was, it's literally one of the most tragic event of my entire life.

I loved MGS so much, and it ends like this, feels like I wasted 15 years of my life.
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>>331997063
He may be the shittiest but holy shit he is terrifying. Just a walking tank coming for you.
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>>331997063
>senpai wa doko da...?
>ah! senpaaaaiiii! o-hayoooooo!
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>>331996779
To scare people?

Lowers morale when soldiers hear the noise, I imagine.
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>>331987793

It's the 80's. Can't expect it to look like some ultra cool sci fi futuristic mecha. The concept of this thing probably had to stay true to some robot design of the 1980's.
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>>331997334
>feels like I wasted 15 years of my life.

But you did. Regardless of TPP's quality, you did.
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>>331997351
It was done downright pants-shitting scary when it was chasing Venom. Why did they make the car driving a cutscene? Or even carrying Huey, they should've placed it somewhere with more variety rather than a fucking straight road with some stones on each side. Just look at it, there's so much stuff it could've been used in, and they just chose the blast it with missiles in the chest a dozen of times to win.

>>331997674
>80s concept
>make a bipedal walking tank
>give it a fucking sword
No
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>>331997921

The difference is that I would have at least knew a period of hapiness is this piece of trash was good.
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>>331997063
Nothing wrong with running like a girl with those hips
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>tfw Shagohod had the best music and worst functionality
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>>331987793
Its easily the best looking one.
Its pretty much a Orbital Frame.
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It really was sexier when it was assumed to be an ealier prototype of REX. I did go apeshit in hype when it was leaked to walk upright in that magazine but it was so poorly implemented outside of one cutscene that it should've just remained as a proto-REX
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>>331987793
The worst was easily this incarnation of Metal Gear.

I mean, it couldn't even launch nuclear missiles. (though it COULD play Marky Mark Make My Own Video)
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>>331998879
>can play Genesis games
>can play Nighttrap
I think that's the best Metal Gear.
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>>331999047
>>can play Nighttrap
You're right, I have clearly under-estimated the offensive capacity of this weaponry.
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>>331996779
>What is the purpose of making a robot that can roar.

Give it a wild guess.
Come on, no one is that stupid.
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>>331991219
Huey does start wearing Kojima's glasses latter in the game so I think you are on to something.
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>>331997334
your favorite franchise ended on a high quality note you fucking manchild. Imagine being a silent hill fan. MGS fans are the biggest faggots. Mine ended with fucking homecoming, and then the tiny glimmer of hope I got got shoved up kojimbo's ass by konami, fuck off.
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>>331999376
Fuck off, imagine being a ZoE fan you entitled prick
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>>331999494
Joke's on you, I'm a Boktai fan.

OTENKO!
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>>331999494
fair enough, but mgs fans are still crybaby faggots, their shit came full circle and got a nice AAA goodbye and thank you from the creator.
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>>331999494
>one boring highly repetitive button mashing game
>one above average highly repetitive button mashing game
>GBA game
The only reason to be a 'ZoE fan' is for the robot designs
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>>331999670
I feel sorry for your shit taste, but i do agree that the mecha designs are god-tier
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>>331999494
>you have to imagine your a fan of this franchise to forcefully like this other franchise
you're worse than capeshit fans
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>>331999934
what
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>>331997063

> Suddenly "RULES OF NATUREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"
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>>331998049
The story structure in this game was really weird.

Sally is fully revealed far too early in the game. And it seems like the final confrontation with it was originally supposed to also be the first time we stand face-to-face with it (Skull Face saying that he'll "show you my demon" like he hasn't before, the way it transforms from Rex-mode to fully standing up doesn't carry any real impact as it was already shown standing up 20 missions earlier).
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>>331997334
>still can't believe how disappointing this game was, it's literally one of the most tragic event of my entire life.
That's such a pathetic sentence to read, it made me laugh but the thing is it's true. I feel the same. I'm not even joking when I say the shittiness of the Phantom Pain genuinely affected my mental health. From September to December I was genuinely fucking worse than I usually feel, the game genuinely affected my psyche. Since December I'm a bit better but it still lingers, the phantom pain.
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>>332001774
>load up the game
>the plane crash with mantis on the radio happens
>waking up in the hospital, man who sold the world playing
>the whole hospital scene
>grinning like a retard through the whole thing
>Horseback ride with Ocelot, this game is going to be god-tier
>Rescue Kaz mission
>Sneaking around, so much shit to do, can't wait to discover all the things there are in this game
>Get to Kaz, run away from skulls
>holy shit those RAD deliveries are off the charts, my expectations are exceeded
>Next mission, suddenly it takes a fucking nose-dive
>going through the entire game thinking 'is this it?', wonder what happened
>Kill Skully, game feels like it ended
>get some more re-used missions and the worst fucking twist in history
>play 100 hours more, doing side-ops,upgrading MB,hoping there's something more to it
>find only emptiness
I stopped playing video games altogether, i wonder why i even visit this board anymore
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>>331991219
holy shit
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>>331987793
Its the most menacing IMO, so no.

Doing that mission at night honestly scared me.

Also its the best Metal Gear design in-universe.

The further Metal gears were just aping Huey's brilliance. Sure he was an ass and a cuck but he made the best Metal Gears.
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>>331987862
Sally would actually shrek Rex. Its faster and has proper melee combat capabilities. Its only downside is being unfinished.
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>>332003872
>Its faster and has proper melee combat capabilities
Someone didn't play MGS4
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>>332003756
>Brilliance
>couldn't even get the thing to work without a psychic child who obeys whoever is the angriest about something
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>>331996245
Fuck you I liked Portable Ops.
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>>331998625
Rex was a bunch of blithering fucks reconstructing Huey's work on Sally. It was a rip-off.
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>>332000806
First time we saw it when BB got grabbed by it seemed like a fever dream. Wish we got more of that in the game.
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>>332004074
But REX actually works
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>>332004074
reconstructing Zeke*
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>>332003950
Being able to attack in melee because the pilot decreed it is not the same as having a fucking Gundam sword.

>>332003954
>designed to run on an AI like the Rays in Revengeance
>forced to scrap that plan and make it piloted
>has only literally just started working on the cockpit when big boss kidnaps him
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>>331987793
yes. no. who cares? what difference does it make?
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>>332004182
>had time to finish REX

Of course it did.

Huey is kidnapped immediately after being forced to scrap AI-piloting for manual piloting. The cockpit and control systems literally aren't finished.

A finished Sally would be a contender against Ray in a direct fight.
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>>331987793
THICK
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>>332004074
>Rex still reigned supreme without a rail gun and a radome 9 years later
Its the best and solidly built MG in the whole franchise without any flaws, unless you count the one Otacon made on purpose

>>332004230
>being able to attack in melee because the pilot decreed it is not the same as having a fucking Gundam sword.

ST was never fast in melee, you can see that by how fucking slow it swings that fucking sword, it can go for a faster jog and thats about it. REX on the other hand can fucking dash so fast it fucking avoids missiles, not to mention it destroyed RAY that was made specifically to destroy other MGs.

ST's armor also serves to power up a nuke, its by no means as tough as REX's
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>>332004484
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>>332004462
Cockpit was finished, just never made to fit an adult. Huey never made it actually walk on its own 2 legs, and even if he did , there's no merit to it. The REX design is superior as far as the whole concept of bipedal weapons is concerned
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>>331987852
>What's wrong with MGSV?
There's your answer.
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>>332004484
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I'm not sure if I love or hate this design.
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>Requires the use of psycho mantis' asspull magic
>Required psycho mantis' powers to be massively exaggerated in the first place.
It was super stupid.
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>>332005208
Cockpit was small because a big one couldn't fit the design, but no one expected Sahelantrophus to actually work anyways. Skull Face just needed a trophy that followed him around, Venom just used it for a trophy until the content was cut and the kids steal it or something.
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>>331991219
> takes literal mental gymnastics for it to stand on its own two legs
top kek
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>there was never little things like this in TPP
Where's my attention to detail?
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>>332004484
Are we posting THICK robots now?
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>>332005680
Looks like an autist went ham in CAD or something. Way too busy.
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>>332005910
>niggerbots
I prefer my mechas slender
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>>331999494
>got rid of the 'cockpits'
>got cancelled
Fucking Konami
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>>332006180
Its just concept art, the bottom right Anubis has one apparently, but it really was interesting

>biomechas
>revered as gods
>alternate timeline or distant future
>glorious FOX engine

Konami deserves to burn
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>>332006165
>being a futafag
wew good taste
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>>332005870
why did he do that
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>>332006525
Checking for booby traps
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>>332006943
I know this is sped up, but I don't remember Snake completely wailing Liquid like this.
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>>332006515
Anubis is one of my favorite designs in anything.
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>>331997063
that's fucking terrifying
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>>332007405
It goes both ways
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>Can only be operated by a psychic fuccboi because it can't work properly on it's own or be operated by an adult

Well gee, I wonder
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>>332007743
>said fuccbois throws around flaming fucking whales that swallow choppers
>lifts god knows how many tons of whateverthefuck material ST is made of
>degrades into an S&M gimp that can toss some furniture around with some light mind reading

Funny thing is, MGS1 Mantis was 50 times cooler too
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>>332008134
I think this is the aspect of Phantom Pain that I hated the most, it completely ruined one of the best villains of vidya history by making him an edgy ginger kid.
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>>332008574
Why is he so cool?
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>>332008898
The artist actually bothered drawing him a penis.
I'm impressed.
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>>331992345
>>331988135
did you retards not see the giant health bar?
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>>332009148
He does that from time to time
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>>332009214
There's no bar when you're rescuing Huey
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>>331988135
>>331992345
>/v/
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>>331990223

That's not the idea, Huey didn't design it that way. It was commandeered by the psychic
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I didn't like it

>looks goofy
>sword and whip?
>earth spikes coming from the ground?
>looks cell shaded
>not at all similar in the realistic sci fi realm the other metal gears were, which I could see being actual weapons
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Is there any villain in MGS worse than Skullface? Even Yes Noman was more interesting
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>>332010483
>walking tanks
>being actual weapons
top kek
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>>332010897
Skully was pretty interesting/mysterious in GZ, he had a great VA too. Him being shit is thanks to Kojima trying to shoehorn him in the whole 'he was there for Snake Eater' thing
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>>332010897
>design Skullface
>"yes this rooks good"
>walks away
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>>332007415
But that's not the ultimate fusion of LEV and Orbital Frame
though really I love just about everything about ZOE and it hurts there isn't more to love
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>>332011102
"Before Konami shits on my beloved franchise, I'll do it myself."
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>>332011792
>tfw Viper was harder than Anubis on extreme
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>>332011818
>I'll do it myself
Its like Kojima was sending us the subliminal messages of how TPP is going to be shit. Was it a warning or a cry for help?
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Destroy the characters of volgin, mantis, big boss and ocelot in the same game.
Kojima should japan himself.
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