how does SE get away with this?
Suggestion: quit the game
Have a data mined map of a 3.3 dungeon.
>>331821723
IT'S ANOTHER HALLWAY
WOO, HALLWAYS
>>331821548
I don't get it. I'm at a loss for words
>>331821723
Do we know where the dungeon will be located?
Do you have any more of these?
>>331821876
It's just that map which has no identifiers tied to it, and this one which looks like the second Void Ark area.
>>331821168
>Wanting long, stupid, obnoxious twisting turning dungeon paths to essentially what is a raid boss.
>Not wanting the shit done and over with as quickly as possible so you can grind.
Id rather it just be the 15 minutes and done with then spending 45 minutes clearing out trash mobs.
Reminder that this cancerous tripfag is a ban on sight.
Report and move on.
>>331821956
The first one you posted is interesting. I wonder what the 4 platforms on the rights represents. Might be some kind of ships or something like that.
>>331822042
God forbid we have twists or turns with the typical trash pack distribution just to break the tedium of lane -> lane -> lane -> circular boss arena -> repeat.
>>331821168
filtered.
fucking xiv
>>331822240
Ok hows this.
Instead of posting shit thats from what is essentially short raids, why not post the map from some dungeons.
Tam Tara Deepcroft is fucking one of those with multiple pathways.
>>331825049
>multiple pathways
>three side rooms
>>331821168
Dungeon runs would be linear regardless since the community will just go for the most optimal paths.
>>331825521
Moron.
Thats why you build the group yourself and run as the tank!
Man, the dungeon finders fucked everything up.
>>331825186
>moving a goal post.
That's fine, shit post away.
>>331827869
I am not the original guy you replied to,
>>331821168
>>331821548
>>331821723
>>331821956
Is this fucking XIV?
>>331825606
>dungeon finders ruined everything.
Ya you keep telling yourself that, working your ass off spending 30 minutes to an hour trying to put together a dungeon run for it to be ultimate shit.
Or
>Random dungeon run ready in 4 minutes or less.
>Done in 30.
>GG.
you sound like a fucking pleb, and thats coming from my loud faggit mouth who enjoyed vanilla WoW.
Running dungeons gets old as shit.
>>331822234
Three bigass coffins that you fight the final boss on.
>>331827935
yes unfortunately
>>331821168
because mmo dungeons aren't about exploration, they are about killing bosses, wow's old dungeons show that players hate wandering through dungeons forever, they want to get in, kill the bosses, and get out, there is no need or desire for huge winding dungeons, exploration is put into other parts of content for players who want to do it instead
>>331828170
Completely. Its about running in a straight line killing things you already killed before with people from other servers are quickly as possible.
>>331828143
What the fuck happened?
>>331828412
Lowered budget while most of the game's profits get funneled into XV/SO5/KH3/etc.
>>331828334
pretty much yeah, for its genre thats what its all about
i wish there was an mmo that could take that rng dynamic to dungeons and bosses/elites from diablo 3's expansion and make it into an mmo, i think it'd be pretty sweet, but it certainly wouldn't work in theme park mmos
>>331828496
I just want more MMO dungeons like the ones in TERA which have multiple routes, some which are randomly locked, and others which require speed running to make in time.A shame TERA's endgame was shit-tier and eventual F2P model ruined it further
Hallway maps are nothing new to SE
>>331821168
The line isn't perfectly straight therefore it's non-linear.
Checkmate atheists.
>>331829718
That hallway map made sense though. It was the literal hall of the gods that led to the god's realm.inb4 someone argues ru'aun gardens is a giant hallway
>>331821168
Yeah but if they added branching paths I'd have to deal with running the dungeon multiple times and having new players get lost just so they could grab a chest or some shit and then waste 5 minutes for an x-potion so what the fuck ever.
The map layout fits the game it is in, changing that isn't going to suddenly fix the all the problems that 14 has. Branching paths for no reason aren't going to make it better.
>>331830415
People bitched about Tamtara having branching paths so they started going linear.
Now people are bitching that they are going to linear and not having enough branching paths.
The correct thing to do would have been to have branching dungeons with different potential boss fights depending on which path you took. Even then, at the highest level people would always fight the quickest one to fall. To fix that, you could make the cool branching dungeons either low level or tie a token drop to certain bosses to incentivize the acquisition of sidegrade gear.
Oh wait, I forgot modern vidya hates horizontal progression.
Video games suck.
>>331831557
Well the truth is, that this game went through a serious redo and had to shut the game down just to relaunch it. They've been strapped for resources for a while now. That leads to basic designs in level layout and number of bosses. Yoshi has been on record saying things like not being able to release new classes outside of expansions anymore, and that while the game would be better if the main raids had three difficulty settings, they don't have the resources to create three different fights.
So one of the main reasons why dungeons are straight forward hallways with bosses in them is because they aint got shit for resources.
>>331831862
Yeah, that's also true. It cracks me up how people always say "b-but they had up to 7.0 planned! They know what they are doing!" and wonder why the content is so garbage.
Just because they planned that far ahead doesn't mean they put any substance behind the actual planning. It's literally the same thing over and over with a new number over it and some different flavor text.
>>331832280
So your telling me not being able to check a map is a positive thing?
You can have 3 groups per raid in some of the content, and in world content you can have as many as an entire server ganging up on one world boss.
Who would ever think being unable to check your fucking map to see where you are is a good thing, or getting constantly LOST!
If FF11's map was in a regular Final Fantasy game id be ok with that, provided I have a map to check, but in an MMO where you are dealing with fucking retards, no, I am not.
>>331831557
It's thanks to those whiners the game is as 'streamlined' as it is.
