*RECORD SCRATCH*
A HUMAN REAPER?!
>>331737912
So forced.
Even the Collectors collecting enough human material for one reaper to fight back...
So forced....
My coach said, never force the shot.
Woah. Freezeframe. This is my life right now. How did I end up here? Yeah I'll tell you, but we're gonna have to go alllll the way bac kto the start...
>>331737912
>Renegade line: "This thing is too big for our guns"
>proceed to destroy it with their guns
>destroy base
>ALL the system blows up
>ME3
>Hey, Cerberus here, remember that Reaper baby? Well, he's here!
>>331738076
Proceeds to go to the point of Shepard dying "whoops! Not that far back!,"
>>331739320
Who gave you the bomb that blew up the base?
I never quite understood the whole Human-Reaper thing in Mass Effect.
Just why?
Why did the Reapers want to create one, why did they need human slushie DNA, why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
>>331737912
>A HUMAN REAPER?!
*fade to black*
THREE MONTHS EARLIER....
>>331739417
And why do all of the other reapers look that same yet this cycle they wanted to model it after the harvested species
>>331739417
Because humans are special. HUMANS BE DA MAN. That's why in ME3 earth is major important. Never mind that complete and utter lack of logic keeps it quite safe.
Man, Mass Effect was a fucking amazing series
>>331739514
It is pretty damn amazing how long after its release it still sparks controversy.
Just goes to show how much potential they wasted. It was a fairly generic concept, but man...
just beat this, that was the worst ending i've ever seen
just shitposting on /v/ until ME3 finishes installing
>>331739682
So you're eager for an even worse ending? Why? Never mind that most of ME3 is garbage.
>>331739497
I don't get it.
>>331739682
>that was the worst ending i've ever seen
>until ME3 finishes installing
Anon, I...
>>331739775
>>331739497
>Because humans are special. HUMANS BE DA MAN
Basically this I remember hearing some hidden voices of Harbinger going through the races and stating why they are or aren't fit. Only humans were deemed a "viable possibility". It was on Youtube as apart of some indoctrination theory video that I can't find anymore. I remember one of the lines was
>TURIANS: Inviable possibility, you are considered..... too primitive
>>331739849
Someone (whom /v/ probably hates, so I'm not gonna post it) laid out in detail why humans are actually stupidly inferior to Asari in the goddamn main plot point of ME2.
>>331739417
>>331739464
There was a lot that got changed and cut as time went on. The reapers weren't all supposed to look the same, and the whole dark energy sub plot was supposed to actually go somewhere.
>>331739514
i miss karen gillen
I think I'm going to install Mass Effect again tomorrow. Does anyone know if the frame rates are capped at 60 or will they go higher?
>>331739940
Doesn't really matter with the first game. Since it's a console port, more or less.
https://web.archive.org/web/20130120045453/http://www.holdtheline.com/threads/me2-writer-chris-letoile-on-the-ai-characters-and-the-reapers.4229/
>what could have been
>>331739940
I am currently doing this, I know it won't end well but it's nice to see the world again
>>331739910
please post it, i want to read it
>>331740051
>we will never get the Mass Effect that was meant to be
Shitty Contra reference.
>>331740334
Not with that attitude.
>>331739514
it's my fav game family
>>331740334
not this year, but next year OH BOY !
>>331740590
I can't wait for my hopes and dreams to be crushed YET AGAIN! Fuck Bioware and fuck vidjya gams.
>Needs a whole new galaxy to make more from the series
For all the pros and cons of both games, I'll still take ME1 over ME2.
>>331740051
Ouch. ME3's ending must have been a dagger to the heart for him.
>>331737912
Of course OP. It's a video game, so it had to have a boss fight in it.
>>331740942
I probably would have skullfucked somebody to death over that.
>>331741019
Strongest boss in any game ever?
>>331741242
I think you mean
>>331739815
>Reapers
>bombarding planets from orbit
lol not anymore did they even read the script for me3
reapers are kaiju now HONK HONK
>>331741415
>lol not anymore did they even read the script for me3
That IS from ME3.
>>331739514
>over complexity of the second installment
>Mass Effect 2
>complex in any way
>>331741464
McBainStandingInFrontOfABrickWallLambastingHisAudience.bmp
>>331739417
>Why did the Reapers want to create one,
I like to think before they went full retard, the human Reaper was going to do what Sovereign tried to do. Then they released Arrival and completely ruined that possibility. Really sucks how Arrival ruined both ME1 and ME2.
>why did they need human slushie DNA
Because Reapers are partly organic and that organic part is derived from the species that is harvested.
>why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
Possibly the internal structure of the Reaper. The outer hull of all Reapers is apparently based upon Harbinger's design.
>>331739514
I miss when RPS was good
>>331741548
>Because Reapers are partly organic
ME1 established they're not, no? ME1 is the only one that matters.
>Possibly the internal structure of the Reaper.
You get to see the internal structure of a Reaper in ME2. No skellington necessary. Never mind just plain logic.
*record scratch*
Whoa WHOAAAAA rewind, rewind!
*freeze frame*
You're probably wondering how a giddy little cowboy like me ended up here. That's right, that's me. Director! Let's rewind to the beginning!
*movie rewinds all the way back to when John Marston was a baby*
Aww, there's baby me! Gosh, I was so cute, with my tiny cowboy hat and boots. Hey, WAIT A SECOND! This is way to far back. Director, come on, let's move on ahead.
*movie forwards to when John Marston was graduating cowboy school*
Ah, perfect. Ever since I was small, I've always wanted to be a cowboy. Well, on that day, I got my wish granted. Little did I know, being a cowboy isn't all fun and games as many make it out to be.
*screen darkens*
*hey now you're a rock star.mp4*
*title RED DEAD REDEMPTION fades in over a panning view of the wild west*
>>331741652
>ME1 established they're not, no? ME1 is the only one that matters.
In ME1 they are referred as 'machines' out of ignorance, there is no way the current generation would know their true nature. Even protheans probably didn't figure it out.
>>331741719
Wrong thread, by now.
I think we can all agree M3>M1>M2
the best record scratch yet
>>331741779
>best record scratch
No such thing. It's just another shit meme.
>>331737912
Is it worth it to play ME1 without playing also 2 and 3?
>>331741776
But of course.
Especially all those sexy ass 90s models.
>>331741860
>M3 better than M1
They're entirely different cars. How can one be better?
>>331741860
>>331741912
BMWs are boring as fuck. They all look the same.
>>331741652
>ME1 established they're not, no?
Uh, no. Quite the opposite in fact. Did you listen to nothing Saren said?
>You get to see the internal structure of a Reaper in ME2
Not from a distance to deduce its shape. Plus you just said that only ME2 matters so why bring it up? :^)
>ME2
>beep boop hold up son only faggots joined the reapers we let them go because we tight like that
>we dont need no reaper junk to make our future were doing it solo all the way baby
>ME3
>HEY SHEPARD HIT ME UP WITH THAT SWEET REAPER CODE IMMA MAKE US ALL PEOPLE YO
>>331741757
>they are referred as 'machines' out of ignorance
I think that was entirely different context.
>>331741912
>They're entirely different cars. How can one be better?
>>331741939
>You were supposed to get Legion much earlier in ME2
>Even has dialog and scripting for early in the game
why bioware why
>>331741939
Legion and the Geth will always make me angry.
>>331741860
>normie shit
>>331741938
>Did you listen to nothing Saren said?
Aside from Sovereign (of which even the name has been lore-raped) contradicting itself in the "conversation", there is enough hinting in both directions. It could be either.
>>331742036
Not as pissed as the guy who wrote them
>hurr durr me3 color endings, broski man, shitty ending, third person, earth-focus!
>but its ok when me2 did all those things!
>>331742150
>that last sentence
Goddammit.
>>331742195 >but its ok when me2 did all those things!
But it's not. Nobody said it is. The entirety of ME2 is pointless. And contradictory stupidity.
>>331739389
You overload the system and the base evaporated behind you, it's also the only thing keeping the location it's in stable so that entire area would be ruined.
>>331737912
how the fuck would that even work? how would it play through space? like superman?
>remove all references to reapers from me2
>collectors now are a race that is trying to forcibly evolve themselves with human dna slurry. Humans are targeted because they only recently joined the galactic community.
How much better did me2 just get?
>>331742150
I feel so sorry for that guy.
>>331742875
Not much. Because Reapers would still be a thing in the overall sense.
Introducing Reapers was the first mistake of the ME series. Especially for a writing team on the level EA buys up.
>>331742875
If they could utilize alien DNA to augment their own, they'd be better off just picking up animals nobody cares about
>>331742875
D-Do you want to build a sn...videogame?
>>331741838
Anyone?
>>331742875
You still get your ass kicked by a blind space ninja in 3. Nothing tops that retardation.
>>331742973
Never mind picking up Asari. Which are much more versatile genetically. Actually infinitely more versatile.
>>331743019
2 is alright, and 3 has fun combat, but if you're playing for the story just forget 3 altogether.
>>331743019
Sure, why not
>>331743019
Yeah, it's fine. Most of the first Mass Effects main plot missions feel very disconnected, though, so it's not really THAT good. But it has a very nice world, with some interesting concepts.
>>331742957
Reapers would have been a lot better if we didn't know why or when, or even how many there were, or if more were coming after Sovereign.
Less really is more when it comes to cosmic horror.
>>331742848
>>331742150
like, tears in the rain, scoob
>>331743232
The problem is that this is a video game. Having (as of ME1) an unbeatable (the kill-Saren-avatar thing was real stupid bullshit) space god as an overarching enemy just doesn't work for the setting of Mass Effect.
>>331743032
Even putting the endings aside, 3 has so much wrong with the story I'm not sure it can be fixed without rewriting the whole game.
>>331743019
>>331741838
ME1 is one of the last solid things Bioware put together. The writing is decent but also feels kind of like its pulled together from 1/3 generic bioware structure, 1/3 babylon 5 and 1/3 star control 2.
My favourite thing about the game is that the tone and aesthetic of classic science-fiction is absolutely nailed all throughout the first game. It looks, sounds and generally feels like pulp science-fiction should. The sequels go full JJ Abrams on everything but ME1 really gets it right.
And call me absolutely out of my mind but I think it's the only one that plays well out of the whole series.
>>331743032
Wait, Kai leng was Blind?
>ME2
>Mordin comes to terms with his doubts regarding the genophage, agrees that it was for the greater good
>Legion refuses to use reaper code to get the geth one step closer to true AI status, says the geth have to get there by their own hands
>Cerberus is a morally gray organization focused on the protection of humanity above all else
>ME3
>SHEPARD THE GENOPHAGE WAS WRONG LETS FIX IT NOW
>SHEPARD I MUST UPLOAD THE REAPER CODE TO BECOME A REAL HUMAN BEAN
>CERBERUS IS EEEEVIL, WE AUGMENTED OURSELVES WITH REAPER TECH!
Mac Walters is a hack.
>>331744080
ME2 is the anomaly with regards to Cerberus' characterization
And even then, they still do a bunch of shit that's justified with "Well TIM didn't know or he would have stopped it"because you were never given a choice about working with/for them and they have to appear slightly better than an organization of Mengele tier evil scientists
*RECORD STRATCH*
a bomb??????????????
>introduce frictionless materials
>2 years later
>guns need disposable, universally applicable "heatsinks"
Uh...wat?
>10 years missing ship crew has them too
>>331737912
ROB SCHNEIDER
>>331744080
Also, what the fuck was up with EDI secretly having reaper code?
When I played ME2 the game just totally skipped this boss fight. Was it fun/
>>331737912
So, can we all agree that as a series it never achieved any of the hype or promise it said it would? That as a series it failed to establish the gravitas of the crpg titles that faggots still hold up today as the best games of all time?
>>331744748
It already failed at simple, logical cohesion. Everything else is just the avalanche following that.
>>331744492
IS
A CARROT!
>>331744816
Yep. Went from fairly hard sci-fi with a consistent tone and world building to Gears of War: Space Magic.
>>331739514
That's just plain fucking Stockholm's Syndrome what this guy is going through.
>>331744605
>Big guy fight on a platform
>Mario-tier obvious weakpoint
>Adds
>Slightly less obvious, but still obvious weakpoints
>Ridiculously easy, since 90% of the time you're probably have the collector laser
Pretty shitty final fight, I'd say even Saren was better.
>>331745132
>fighting Saren
>take out his shields and start chipping at his health
>cutscene starts
>hear shield recovery sound
>back to fight
>his shield is full again
Must have been a lousy boss fight if Saren was better
>>331742448
I don't think "racism" means what he thinks it means.
>Bioware doesn't see the irony in a canon fucking ending to the series being exactly what Saren wanted in the first place
God damn it why couldn't the reapers have been something other than what they were. I'm sure there was some original plan other than "UHH ROBOTS GET CRAZY EVENTUALLY SO WE HAVE TO KILL EVERYONE SO THEY DON'T KILL YOU FIRST".
>>331745307
You have three massive weakspots, a nuke to halve health the first cycle and then just boring point and click.
Yeah, it's bad.
>>331745582
>I'm sure there was some original plan other than
>>331745582
Saren's only mistake was choosing the Reapers as the galaxy's future. If his vision of Synthesis involved giving everyone tech upgrades that weren't Reaper in origin, it would turn out okay.
That said, he'd never even try to do that without getting his brain indoctrinated.
>>331737912
So a reaper is just a very tall robot?
How did reapers wipe out whole civilizations again?
>>331745816
Numbers. And lasers.
>>331745816
By having unprecedented powerful weapons and defenses, a single one being able to stroll through a united galactic armed fleet without (much) damage. Who then uploaded its entire operating system into a piss-easily defeatable, broken piece of machinery.
As in stupidity.
>>331744605
>pc vs console graphics dot jejpeg
>>331745941
>a single big metal machine can destroy tens of thousands of other metal machines without being destroyed in turn
Thats pretty dumb. Science fiction, more like anti-science fiction ammirite?
>>331745950
That is very literally the joke
>>331739417
>Why did the Reapers want to create one, why did they need human slushie DNA, why is a giant skeletal giant better than fly space bugs?
They aren't better or anything. There wasn't supposed to be anything special about the human reaper. The reapers just pick up whatever species they like the most each cycle and use it to make one new reaper to build up their ranks, then ME3 came out and retconned this. I can only guess they wanted their giant space battle an fuck if they were going to make a different design for each individual reaper. Would have been cool getting reapers with different designs knowing they are the shape of species that were in your situation and lost in previous cycles. kind of like your enemy going to battle all dressed up in the corpses of his enemies.
>>331744594
Oh man, look what have Reapers done to those poor people
>>331746008
>Thats pretty dumb.
But it's not. You should play the game, so you know what you're talking about.
>>331746008
The only thing dumb here is your oversimplification. ME may be stupid but your argument as to why is plain retarded.
>>331745950
wow good job you looked at the same image everyone else did and were capable enough to read the words on that image
So I just finished ME1
Can you really not save both Ashley and Kaidan?
Also why is the boss fight so shit? it's literally Green Goblin then it turns into Zombie General Grievous
>>331746281
>Can you really not save both Ashley and Kaidan?
That's the point. Albeit handled a bit hamfisted.
>Also why is the boss fight so shit?
I don't think (modern) Bioware ever could into bossfights.
This is why OP.
http://www.gamewatcher.com/news/2012-15-03-mass-effect-writer-drew-karpyshyn-reveals-original-mass-effect-3-endings
The Reapers were going to kill everyone due to dark matter buildup.
>>331746281
you didn't make saren kill himself?
>>331746494
The bad part is the "processing". That's not much less dumb than what we got overall (as proven in 2).
>>331746575
the option came up but I thought choosing that option might talk him down into joining me so I didn't pick it since I want to kill him.
>>331746410
I enjoyed ME1's boss fight the most because biotic ragdolling actually works on him, which makes it ridiculous
>>331737912
>*RECORD SCRATCH*
>A HUMAN REAPER?!
>AND THE PROM IS TOMORROW!
How do I make a cute Shepard in ME2? :3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbIuOU4l1Pw
>what could have been
>>331747491
http://www.facesofgaming.com/
>>331747491
Play with the sliders. Listen to your dick.
>>331747662
Then leave creator engine and enter game engine, to be horribly disappointed by simple failure of shading.
>>331747604
aaaaayy
>production "quality" ALL the way
>right up to marketing
>>331747848
are those squiggly lines from microsoft word spelling corrections?
>>331747902
what the fuck
>>331747902
>>331747958
Yes, they are.
>>331739514
I'm absolutely fine with people enjoying AAA and simple games.
But this "article" is deprived from any critical thinking and soley based on his own imagination.
That's all fun and well. But trying to sell it as a fact is either a troll or a shill.
ME had a great concept, that unfortunately was only announced as a trilogy, never layouted, or written as such. I think many /v/-people would be ok with the simplification of the games, if the concepts and plotlines were anywhere consistent as its major selling poont promised.
>>331740051
I don't even know what to believe anymore, I mean I loved ME2 as is but after reading this...
>tfw no shiala romance
>>331747848
Mass Effect 1-3 are my favorite games of all time.
>>331748438
My condolences.
the mass effect general on /vg/ made some scientific chemical research bullshit that claims Batarian cum turns into foam
also some guy in the Bioware forums also did some scientific chemical research bullshit and claims Quarian sweat smells good and can be used as energy drinks
>>331748501
It is perfectly fine to like shit. The problem is with not being able to accept that it is, factually, shit.
>>331743019
it's a decent series if you just go with it and do try to think the inconsistencies. changed content or not, Rannoch remains my favorite part in ME3
>>331748512
That map seems like nitpicking though. Maybe they should've named some things differently, but it honestly does not matter that much.
>>331748579
I'll show it to you again tomorrow.
>>331748337
>that kid is a resized adult
>>331744571
EDI was partially made from Sovereign's guts after Shepard destroyed the rogue VI on the Moon in ME1
>>331739514
He kind of has a point, that everyone looks at the ending in a vacuum. Also it is based of the visuals alone rather than the choice made.
yes they dropped the ball with the final cutscene but I think it was more of the implications your choices had for the Galaxy than a right in that moment kind of thing.
not saying they did a good job, but people definitely over reacted.
>>331748773
Your "joke" doesn't work, try again.
WE WUZ ROBOTS AN SHIET
I really thought the entire series came together at the end to teach a harsh lesson about trust.
Like, your favorite devs spend YEARS telling you that your choices are important and will affect the final outcome of the story, and you trust they're going to deliver, I mean ou brace yourself for there only being like 2 or 3 different endings with slight variations of each, but you believe that at least there's going to be SOME effect based on your decisions.
Then the ME3 ending just blind sides you out of nowhere and it turns out oyur decisions didn't matter even a little bit and you're left angry and even confused, all because you let them build up your trust over half a decade only to smash it down within a couple of minutes.
No game series has ever tough as harsh a life lesson as Mass Effect. Trust leads to dissapointment.
>>331749045
But the 90% of ME3 is broken, never mind judging it as a sequel.
>>331749079
I wasn't even mad about the ending
It's way worse how absolutely everything else is shit
Especially after Tuchanka
Still I'm Mad.
I'm still meme
meme I'm mad
Why are Leviathans a thing again?
>>331748780
>>331748780
Don't talk about me or my endings again
>>331749314
>>331749319
sonmind
>>331749287
To sell more content. To destroy more lore. To..."explain" reapers' existence.
>>331749287
Because someone at Bioware thought they needed to destroy what was left of the lore
>>331749287
To give a thing that was made, a thing that made it.
also, they are genuinely freaky and they made them the scary insidious threat that the reapers should have been
>>331748231
>>331749367
>To destroy more lore
the lore with them is fine.
Only issue would be it undermines the reapers, but given everything else it almost does the opposite.
>>331749195
Tuchanka was shit as well though.
>>331748337
Some of these complaints are bullshit and drag down the others with how petty they are. Poisoning your own well with that.
>>331749561
What are the Leviathans? I tried to replay ME3 with all the DLC but I couldn't bring myself to not uninstall it
>>331739514
>Cis Gender Shotgun
Nope.jpg
>>331749628
A deus ex machina is never fine. And that's what the Leviathans are. Except that it doesn't even get used.
>>331739270
Yeah the renegade options were retarded for being renegade alot of the time
Such as cooperating with the people who spent an incredible amount of resources to bring you back from the fucking dead, while the paragon option is just be an asshole and dismiss them for something they may or may not have done
>>331749651
Tuchanka was one of the few places I actually died on Insanity. It was okay.
>>331749314
>>331749319
>>331749771
>And that's what the Leviathans are.
They don't come in and save anything, the entire DLC is building up to them and establishing them, and when they show up its because you hunted them down, they didn't come out of nowhere.
You don't actually know what that phrase means do you?
>>331749714
More or less the Rakata from KOTOR, they were the OG galaxy-spanning empire that had all the original ancient sentient races in their hand, then they got too greedy when they created Reapers, which turned on them, leading to their downfall
>>331750004
>They don't come in and save anything
Hence the "it doesn't get used".
They came out of nowhere, because they were hinted at but once before (pic), which was then retconned into a stupid idea (derelict reaper).
They are an unused deus ex machina, because they created the reapers, thus know their functioning and could thus, if not entirely disable, at least be a huge step to defeating the reapers.
And to top it off, they were introduced in an optional DLC.
>>331749714
>What are the Leviathans?
sea monster things that have a stronger version of indoctrination that they can exert more strongly to the point of killing you, or release.
they used it to subjugate the other species of their home world, have them build ships and then just went around enslaving worlds for fun.
their slaves kept making robots to be their slaves and the robots kept having uprisings. Their abilities didn't work on robots so they made an AI to figure out the problem and stop it, it started making reapers and somehow killed almost all of them. A handful survive, and have been alive since the time of the first cycle.
they can kill reapers using a feedback of indoctrination , but it tires them out and thus they are still at risk of being overwhelmed and just hide from the reapers every cycle.
>>331746102
>Would have been cool getting reapers with different designs knowing they are the shape of species that were in your situation and lost in previous cycles. kind of like your enemy going to battle all dressed up in the corpses of his enemies.
Stop making me sad
>>331750234
So you got exactly what you expected
>>331750240
>>331750141
how entirely predictable
>>331750226
>Hence the "it doesn't get used".
No that means it cannot be a deus ex machina. It doesn't fit any of the definition.
>They came out of nowhere, because they were hinted at but once before (pic)
That doesnt make them a deus ex. not having 3 games of build up isnt the same thing as comming from nowhere in full firce as a first appearance. If the end of the DLC was the first introduction to them then maybe, but it isnt.
> thus know their functioning and could thus, if not entirely disable, at least be a huge step to defeating the reapers.
Could but arent because there's like 3 of them.
Buddy, its not a deus ex, there's more than one way for writing to be bad.
You are just astonishingly ignorant
>>331746102
>The reapers just pick up whatever species they like the most each cycle
They REALLY pushed the extinction angle for the reapers, though. The possibility of harvesting came about by an out-of-nowhere comment of one of the squadmates present at the Sovereign conversation and was never mentioned again until...I think WAY into ME2? If there at all.
>>331739320
>>331742341
>the Reaper IFF system on the Normandy is the only thing that allows Shepard to use the Omega relay without drifting into a black hole
>Cerberus just goes through the Omega relay with no problems without the Normandy
>>331749892
Renegade didn't really get dumb till 3 where it became an actively cripple yourself by not getting resources option cause you said fuck off
>>331750226
If it doesn't do the thing that makes it a deus ex, its not a deus ex.
That would be like a retcon thats consistent, planned from the start that contradicts nothing.
>>331750391
So they're not DEM, fine by me. Nevertheless, they break lore.
God I just wish that Andromeda would be good, even if it's not likely since literally everyone left, I still have a glimmer of hope
>>331750240
>things that have a stronger version of indoctrination that they can exert more strongly to the point of killing you, or release.
>they used it to subjugate the other species of their home world, have them build ships and then just went around enslaving worlds for fun.
>WE LITERALLY CANNOT STOP COPYING STAR CONTROL
>>331749319
>>331747112
I really liked that part. 10/10
>>331750308
But i was not expecting to fall in love with the best waifu ever anon :3
>>331741631
>Hi Shepard, what's up?
>I'm sick, i got some cosmic flu. Wanna come in?
>Make yourself comfortable, I will make some tea.
>OOO candy!
>What a candy?
>WAIT! THESE ARE ANTIBIOTICS!
>>331741939
Legion deserved more love. You know who didn't? The filthy space gypsy Tali
>Talk to Tali in ME1
>Yeah so we had to kill the Geth cause they were getting smart and then we'd have no free labour and have to give them rights and shit
>Tell her that's bad
>OMG YOU JUST DON'T GET IT
She is a gypsy and a nazi
i'm so eternally butthurt about this fucking series
>>331750643
Take it back, Bioware would never copy something from another game!
>>331739913
>>331750678
And then you realize where the thing is located, in correlation to its contents.
>>331750643
no one cares about those old games, grampa
>>331750583
>Nevertheless, they break lore.
Except they don't. The lore around reapers was fucked before they showed up and they help restore some degree of threat and the unknown to things.
>>331750643
>Mass Effect carries SC lore better than SC3 does
>>331750240
>can subjugate races through the entire galaxy to worship them as gods
>can't make them not create killers robots
>create AI because "lol that woudn't happen to us"
>said AI somehow manages to build SOMETHING that drives them to extinction without them noticing
>said SOMETHING is somehow irrelevant and never appears on the story
>>331747112
I fucking loved that bit.
>>331750763
This is retarded, even if it was candy she wouldn't eat it
Everyone knows about species-specific food and Liara is an anthropologist on top of that
>>331750907
>help restore some degree of threat and the unknown to things.
How so? They merely explain that they were created with a strange mishap in their programming (which kinda makes no sense) and make the reapers much LESS mysterious.
Yes the reaper lore was fucked before, of course. But the Leviathans didn't fix anything, just twisted it in a slightly different direction, while removing tension/mystery.
>>331750842
This inst surprising and is very common.
Its the senior staff for a project that you should track, they are the ones who are supposed to guide things. Turnover in a video game company for lower positions is the standard.
>>331748231
>form-fitting shiny outfits
Mass Effect was fun for me. In ME2 Miranda's alternate uniform camethen I did
>>331750931
>>can subjugate races through the entire galaxy to worship them as gods
>>can't make them not create killers robots
>>create AI because "lol that woudn't happen to us"
See this is all fine because I can see it happening.
Arrogant beings that have no interest properly managing their toys? I'm down with this.
but the rest
>>said AI somehow manages to build SOMETHING that drives them to extinction without them noticing
>said SOMETHING is somehow irrelevant and never appears on the story
Right? Fucking no effort to explain it They were the first species wiped out too!
>>331739497
Actually and I will admit I could be wrong but I'm almost certain that the Reapers targeted earth so heavily solely because of Shepard. Shepard basically pissed off Harbringer so much that he got a hard on for fucking up humanity. It's actually impressive that a single man pissed in the cereal of a millions of years old sentient machine eldritch abomination so much that he effectively doomed his species even harder then normal.
It really showed during the battle with the reaper on Ranoch.
"Shepard. Harbringer speaks of you."
That's pretty damn good going from "Rudimentary creatures of blood and flesh. You touch my mind, fumbling in ignorance, incapable of understanding."
To that.
>>331751112
The way their indoctrination works, seeing the mining center under their control and how they twisted people to control them, it gave the sense of fear of this unseen force that was present in the first game and entirely absent since.
>>331742150
>legion was well written as it was
>he could have been twice as good and all the dumb shit with the geth in 3 could have been avoided
Fuck
>>331750697
>>331750234
im gonna need a tetanus shot
>>331751190
>>331751252
>Shepard basically pissed off Harbringer
That just makes things worse. ESPECIALLY with the last bit.
"Sovereign" already sounded like a high-horse school bully, now you have Harbinger being the kindergarten villain.
>>331751287
But we've known about other species being capable of indoctrination (or similar, which made much more sense having ended up being incorporated into reaper form- and would've been more interesting rather than yet another new godlike species) with the Thorian. Hell, even a second Thorian would've been better.
>>331742150
>literally Idea Guy coming with "wouldn't be cool if" and ruining everything
Jesus Christ.
>>331751380
I KNOW YOU FEEL THIS>pump entire Mattock magazine into his head with adrenaline rush
Fuck, I accidentally clicked on a hide-post and now the conversation is gone. How do I unhide things in just one thread?
>>331751727
4chan X has a button on its settings to reset hidden posts
Maybe the vanilla extension does as well?
>>331751727
Press [+] on the stub.
>>331740051
Damn... They pissed away so much great story potential.
>>331751891
For all hidden posts, yeah. But not for just one thread? Eh, it's not that important.
>>331751979
I disabled stubs.
Again, thanks, but not that important.
>>331752046
Then enable stubs.
>>331752062
>it works retroactively
Well shit. Could've thought of that myself. Whelp.
>>331750763
>ANTIBIOTICS!
hehe hehehe heh
>>331750697
Whoever was responsible for her horrible design needs to be dragged outside and shot with a tank.
Probably the same "wouldn't it be cool!" guy that fucked up Legion.
"Hey wouldn't it be cool if we throw away any artistic consistency of our slightly gritty scifi game and put something that looks like a 1950s sexy cartoon robot maid in it!"
"Uuuh... no that would be horr..."
"DO IIIIIIIIIT!"
I think I'll have to wash my brain with bleach to forget what a fucking abortion ME3 was.
The worst part of the ending is that you could improve it drastically by just changing the sequence it happens.
>Have harbinger taunt you as you approach the beam
>Get hit, enter beam as standard
>Immediately get transported to catalyst part
>Argue with starchild
>If you pick destroy/refuse, cut to white and you wake up where you normally get transported with the beam
>pick control/synthesis and you get a harbinger quote as you see Shepard "sacrifice himself"
>This adds indoctrination as a valid plot point and lets you have a final confrontation with harbinger in a battle of the minds
>Go meet Anderson/TIM as usual
>After confrontation have chat with Anderson, sit down, Anderson dies, Shepard has a moment of peace looking out the window while horribly wounded
>Weapon fires instead of Hackett contacting you about "something went wrong".
Suddenly you have a more satisfying ending without removing anything because "muh artistic integrity" and without having to add anything more. Doesnt fix the plotholes or many other failings but eh.
>they stole Garrus from XCom
>>331752816
what kind of alien is that on the right? never played ye olde xcoms
it looks hilarious
>>331752915
A Spitter, perhaps. I'm watching Nook for old XCom, not playing myself.
>>331752915
It's ablowjobber. The next time you masturbate think of what it does.
>>331752421
>horrible design
>>331753068
Nah, it's horrible alright.
>>331737912
>mfw deadpool made cheeky 4th wall breaks not-funny
>>331751380
>>331751380
I disagree. I enjoyed sovereigns dialogue and wished the reapers stayed as unknowable eldritch machine gods from outside of the Galaxy. I wish we never learned why they do what they do. With that in mind I enjoy the idea of a single man actually being noticed and pissing off one of them. The idea that a creature that barely perceives organics as sentient would get so fixated and angry about one is neat to me.
That being said they ruined the reapers after ME1 and Harbringers personal involvement and hate of Shepard shows their downfall into mediocrity.
Also What school did you fucking go to where the bullies talked like that? Sovereign as a high school bully would be
>sup faggot how's your Nerd7 shit class? You ever going to bang that Ashley chick? Oh wait of course not you're always going to be a virgin and I already did. See you later Shepard.
>>331751370
>man-face
Fucken Bioware
>>331750763
>antibiotics? But Asari aren't dextro based....
>antibiotics
>Anti Biotic
Hehe
>>331752997
Doesn't look like the same but this one's even more hilarious
Are X-Com aliens intentionally camp?
>>331753018
hot
>>331748337
Who is the tranny that Ashley is modeled after, I need it for research purposes
>>331753156
>I really don't give a shit about you
>you are less than an ant to me
>but let me taunt you and tell you how superior I am anyway
>let me rub in your face how insignificant you are, because I really don't care about you
Just no.
In any remotely "realistic" setting, "Sovereign" would've simply hung up after "You are not Saren."
He has absolutely no reason to give a shit about you, just because Saren had some plot-armor difficulty of removing your interference.
I know, I know, it's a video game.
mmmmm
>>331753348
Beautiful!
>Sovereign
>in German
>>331753431
He's just a shitposter who wants your attention
>>331752737
The mod endings are a must.
>Shepard gets to the citadel.
>showdown with Tim
>No starchild shit
>sit there with Anderson staring at earth
>destruction ending cutscene plays without the Relays and the Geth/Aigetting fucked up
>game ends with the back shot of Shepard and a (dead) Anderson propped up against the podium staring at Earth
>>331750763
oh my fucking GOD
>>331753587
He's not nearly that bad.
