Ignoring the lack of community features like forge, custom games and fileshare, and talking only about balance and gameplay, was Halo 2 the best console multiplayer expirience?
No, it's worse than Halo 1 in both balance and gameplay.
And Halo is still worse than Perfect Dark and Timesplitters.
>>331647490
Why is that?
>>331647780
More than a single weapon was useful, the Sniper wasn't a straight upgrade to your spawn weapon, there are at least 2 powerups and Rocket Launcher per map, and the spawn system can be manipulated to provide consistent and predictable results without enemy interference.
The guns were also harder to use.
>>331647330
I'm going to say that Mario Brothers, not Super Mario Brothers, is the best console multiplayer experience.
>>331647330
Tied with Timesplitters 2
>>331648034
Are you talking about Halo 1 compared to Halo 2?
What are you talking about with the spawn system?
>>331648345
>Are you talking about Halo 1 compared to Halo 2?
Yup.
>What are you talking about with the spawn system?
You would always spawn at the closest available spawn point to your teammate, within an 18 meter bubble. There is no enemy influence on your teammate's spawn, so it's entirely up to you to spawn them properly.
https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/84ad72a8b51847978545f685f651fc15/topics/halo-ce-spawn-system-explained/7cc5095f-8703-43ed-abee-fb39a642fb98/posts
Have a long read.
>>331647330
Halo 3 and Reach were better than Halo 2
>>331648573
What are the best fan made competitive maps for Halo 1?
>>331648701
>Halo 3
>better than Halo 2
>>331647330
>liking memes the game
>>331648573
So how does the spawn work in other Halo games?
>>331648759
Exhibit and Downrush are pretty good.
>>331648959
I don't know the specifics, but there were specifics added in like line of sight detractors, death weighting, and enemy proximity.
Basically it became less about you and your teammate controlling your team's spawns, and more about the enemy influencing where you will spawn.
>>331648701
Halo 3's maps were shit compared to Halo 2. you are retarded if you cant notice that
>>331648767
What's the point of the webm?
>>331648767
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungie-we-screwed-up-on-halo-2/1100-6164579/
>>331649142
A weapon designed to kill in 4 shots has enough random spread to make shots not even halfway across the smallest map in the game to miss.
And even then the amount of damage done is inconsistent. How can a game with so much RNG when shooting be better than a game without?
>>331649278
>it wasn't done on purpose so it couldn't possibly be better than something that was
See >>331648767 again.
>>331649278
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/bungie-we-screwed-up-on-halo-2/1100-6164579/
>caring about campaign in a Halo game
>>331647330
>Halo 2 the best console multiplayer expirience?
No, because 2-player Legendary was impossible.
And the 2-player Legendary is the only reason to play Halo
>>331647330
Who even cares about Halo anymore after 343 killed it?
>>331647330
Halo 2's dual wielding was stupidly broken especially pre patch with the plasma pistol. Halo 3 is still the best MP experience.
>>331649118
I wonder what happened to Chris Carney (the multiplayer map designer for H1, 2, 3, Reach)
>>331649818
Was duel wielding even a good addition to the series? Everything after 3 doesn't have it at all.
r-remember me /v/?
>>331649895
i think he works on LOL now
>>331649294
But isn't random spread a good mechanic? You can't just have everything be perfectly accurate.
I want to say so, but I never played past 3 so I wouldn't know.
I did prefer it much more over 3. I liked the maps more since they weren't cluttered as much, and some of the bigger maps were a lot of fun in BtB.
And the weapons in general felt a touch more smoother. Like, they added some extra delays to animations and such to weapons in 3. Maybe for balance reasons though.
Small things, but they added up. Also the servers for 3 were shittier for some magical reason, for me anyway. Instead of getting full 4/4 ping bars in every match, it became 3/4. Which is frustrating as fuck to deal with.
>>331650254
>But isn't random spread a good mechanic?
No.
Halo 2 is the best
>>331650429
The SMG would be overpowered as fuck without spread
Certainly one of the best
>>331650452
It had a great story.
>>331650571
It's not good on weapons meant for precision.
What's a good amount of weapons for a game like Halo to have without making things redundant, like Halo 4 having a covvie carbine, DMR, BR and Binary Rifle that all do the same thing pretty much.
And how the assault rifle is always tossed away in favor of the BR or most other guns.
How do you acheive optimal weapon balance and avoid putting in useless features?
>>331650186
The Mexicans do.
I sure hope you like 24/7 Blood Gulch, snipers only. Because that's what you're playing.
Why don't we have a /v/ server?
>>331651071
Halo 1, sans Needler, was fine. Everything had a use in specific situations without becoming like Halo 5 where there are many checkmate situations(Storm Rifle/SMG up close).
So somewhere around 7 depending if you want an alternate headshot weapon, or fun guns like the Grenade Launcher.
>>331652242
>7
SMG(or AR in Halo 1), DMR (or pistol in Halo 1), shotgun, plasma rifle, plasma pistol, sniper, rocket launcher?
The grenade launcher from Reach was a lot of fun too, and the energy sword. Can't think of any other weapons that are really needed, except for gravity hammer being needed for Griffball.
Did you always spawn with a plasma pistol in Combat Evolved Slayer mode or did it depend on map?
No, SOCOM II was
>>331652757
>Reach
>bad story and gameplay
Nigga what?
>>331652742
>Did you always spawn with a plasma pistol in Combat Evolved Slayer mode or did it depend on map?
It was dependent on map and mode. I believe the options were "generic" and "custom", where generic would always spawn you with an AR and Pistol.
>>331652912
For some reason I remember the plasma pistol being the starting weapon.
>>331652742
Some people prefer the BR over the DMR. But those people are wrong.
>>331647490
>balance
it's the most balanced Halo game, do I have to remind you that balance in Halo CE was so shit that everything but the Pistol and the Power weapons was useless?
>gameplay
>dual-weilding
>vehicle hijacking
>best maps in the series
>>331654259
>everything but the Pistol and the Power weapons was useless?
Is this not more true in later games?
