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Defend this.
>>331645127
I can't, it's pretty trash.
>>331645127
>make it to late game
>getting wrecked by control
>play doom
>overdraw about 3 cards
>can't tap anymore
>can't kill with any combo within the next two turns
>dead
It's even worse than twisting nether
What I don't understand is why it's a warlock card.
This is a late game card, and by that point warlocks decks are pretty thin.
This card is just going to make warlocks hit exhaustion that much faster.
Why would I defend crap. 10 mana for a brawl+card draw. This card is designed just for top decking to save your ass at the final hour and you shouldn't be relying on that to save you. Yet again, another shitty warlock card.
>>331645442
Twisting Neather+card draw*.
This will fucking destroy arena.
You can just value trade all day, and when you and your opponent are low on cards, you just let him play everything and destroy the board and refill your hand.
To be fair a lot of deathrattle is getting removed with naxx and 8 mana is essentially 10 since you can rarely play anything with it
the self mill is stupid though, given warlocks already deck themselves out
Heard they were removing some cards from the game or something?
Are giant-spamming warlocks dead? I'll seriously re-install if they are.
>>331645604
face hunter confirmed
>Actually playing hearthshit
Defend that.
>>331645604
Dev team is incapable of balance so they're forced to remove expansions for creative freedom
>>331645668
It's <spoiler>fun</spoiler>
>>331645127
>mfw counter spell
kididng i don't pay mage.
This card reks my totem shaman or really any board clear, then again, i'm only rank 14 don't even have 1 legendary in my deck.
>>331645750
how is it fun to feel like every game is out of your control as your opponent rolls a couple 50/50s
Who /pre-order/ here?
>>331645698
>incapable of balance
Literally every major card game has "Standard" and "Wild" type formats.
Not to mention its even more crutial for a game like this since you can't buy/trade specific cards and new players would never be able to catch up at a certain point.
>>331645859
the type of people who play this game are the type of people who'd be addicted to gambling
>>331645859
that's what the game is all about, those 50/50s make your next move either a good trade or a bad/no trade.
When do I have to log in to claim c'thun?
>>331645668
This. Holy fucking shit. TCG is already hard as fuck to defend.
>>331645897
Lets not forget this isn't a TCG
cards can be balanced on the fly without having to ban them
guess who's incapable of doing that
>>331645897
Not when there's like 15 cards in the whole game
>>331645127
it's a shit card
>>331645897
It's fucking impossible for new players to even get into the game unless they drop some serious $$$.
The whole "match you against a player of equal skill" thing is a load of horseshit.
>>331645897
Physical card games, yes, because you can't retroactively fix change and rebalance cards that are already inside player's houses.
This is a digital game though, and back when they launched HS they massively marketed "the great degree of freedom that a digital format allows with balancing the game"
Oh look they were all lies, they're removing expansions every year now because fuck that, everyone does it.
Jackasses
>>331645127
Best card in best game
Will have 2 copies in every warlock deck it's like max value
10 mana boardclear that mills up to 13 cards is so gud
>>331646171
Thats all of TCG. Its an embarrassingly bad genre of entertainment. Competitive TCG was a mistake.
>>331645127
warlocks cant draw enough cards!
>>331645127
where's the mad God that allows us to keep as many cards in our hand as we want?
Because if there's no such effect, this card is pure BULLSHIT. Should straight up be a common or rare card at best.
>>331646389
That would be pretty cool
>warlock with 20 cards in hand and a card active that gives fatigue immunity
Imagine a brann twilight dragon on that shit
I don't understand why they'd want to give a bloated 10mana overkill removal to the ONE CLASS in the ENTIRE GAME that already has a 8mana overkill removal.
Why not give this to classes with notorious problems at drawing cards/establishing board control like Shaman or Priest.
It's shit but as far as card games go it's not bad at letting you do shit without paying
>>331645750Newfags cant spoiler for shit
>he didn't quit after TGT
You guys really believe it's going to get any better with blizzard?
>>331645127
>Pass your turn to draw, on a average, 3-4 cards in the late game
lmao senpai.
>>331646556
>Priest
>problem drawing cards
>>331645127
assuming warlock gets cards that add cards to their deck throughout the game, this card is fine
>>331646661
>One shitty combo you can pull off once every 10 thousand years
>every other draw mechanics 100% useless without board
>>331646661
Power word shield and Northshire are the only ways that a priest can exclusively draw cards. Taken into account that priest have so many auto-include cards, they don't have space for neutral cards that also draw. So yeah, priest does have a hard time drawing cards compared to every class that needs cards like priest does.
>>331645127
my mill rogues wet dream
>>331646645
>all minions
>all
>>331647067
>10 mana
>all
>"I'M GOING TO DESTROY MY BOARD TO DRAW 2 MORE CARDS BECAUSE I'M PLAYING ZOO AND I GUESS WE MADE IT TO LATE GAME WHERE ZOO LOSES ANYWAY"
If the board you have isn't already good enough to deal with the opponent, doom isn't going to save you unless you get a lucky double twilight drake + sunfury for a disgusting 4-8 and 4-9 taunt for only 10 mana.>actually destroys every minion both hands and decks
who else concedes whenever they see a hunter or druid
>>331647447
The point is if the opponent's got all taunt shit you can just wipe everything and next turn fill your side back up with all them cards.
>>331647495
Why would I
I hope there is some new mechanic they haven't shown us cuz all these cards are pure shit.
>>331647563
The highest amount of taunt minions on the board you'll see from any decent player is 2 and that's only a special case with Argus or Sunfury. 1 taunt is optimal if it keeps you alive for the turn. So, You play Doom and then you clear 3 of the opponents minions and 2 of your own, get 5 cards for 10 mana with zero board presence and it's the opponent's turn to just play late game minions. All Doom does is reset the situation and give the player who was winning the opportunity to flood the board and you're still fucked since you wouldn't play Doom if you were losing.
>>331647910
>since you wouldn't play Doom if you were winning.
>>331645497
Nether* :^)
Defend this.
I just want to be able to play hearthstone in wow, like, challange other people and stuff, it would be some yu gi oh shit. Also dungeons where you fight only using your decks.It will never happen.
>>331648816
>Horrible stats
>Useless without a board
>Only use is to duplicate good deathrattle minions
>Really sticky and survives AoE.
It's pretty balanced. Probably won't be in constructed since it's not obviously strong enough on it's own so it depends on a broken, low cost, priest or neutral deathrattle.
>>331648816
Won't be too good
>>331648816
swipe + hero power, if not +1 spell power
>>331648816
Baron Rivendale + chow x2 + Auchenai Soulpriest + circle of healing + 2x flash heal to face.
:^)That'll never happen.
>>331648816
Could work extremely well after Thaurissan brings it's cost, and the other cards in your hand's, down.
Could play Sylvanas and then this on the same turn, for example.
Will need a lot more cheap deathrattle/DS/stealth cards with this expansion in order to make it viable though. Since most of the best ones, like shredder, are out.
>>331645127
Twisting Nether costs 8 and the only deck that uses that is Reno, I can't see anybody using this unless there's some way to reduce it's cost heavily.
>>331645532
>When you and your opponent are low on cards, destroy the board and refill your hand.
>Destroy like 3 minions, cause unless you intentionally let him stack up, he is going to trade you into the dumpster 80% of the time.
And also,
>If the board is notably full and you destroy it, you are now a LOT closer to Fatigue
Plus, we don't know what bullshit other classes have yet.
>>331649948
>4 minions
It's Chow X2+Auchenai.
>That card
>Sac a Auchenai into enemy shit
>Play Rivenderp
>Circle and kill enemy instantly cause
>Riven survives and you have 4 Chows that deal 10 damage each
>Can kill a Warrior with up to artificial 40 HP
>>331654745
>fatigue
>in arena
Dude, seriously?
>>331656070
hitler?
>>331645127
Spellslinger
>>331648816
That could be a decent card in a non-priest deck
>>331645127
I can't. Yet another shitty spell for warlock.
Demonfuse - shit.
Fist of Jaraxxus - shit.
Dark bargain - shit.
Curse of Rafaam - shit.
GvG was the best with dark bomb and implosion, but they will be gone.
So fucking sad, warlock is my favorite class.
>>331656070
Warlocks will always fatigue way before any other class in long arena games and it's not like drawn out value battles are completely unheard of in arena either. Any time you have to play a 10 mana give your opponent a blank board card you're already losing and warlocks will always have card advantage anyway. Not only can the card draw be a liability but Doom is also a garbage tempo play. At least with Twisting Nether you can drop down a Flame Imp or 2 drop after reseting the board.
>>331662732
I wonder if they are going to build on the whole "discard a card" mechanic that they seem to be pushing on Warlocks lately
>>331663469
Poor Grim Patron
It's sad to see a card that has lived past its glory days
>>331663406
I hope not. Losing a card to buff a shitty minion +1/+1 isn't worth it.
>>331664068
A discard deck could only work if they make some cards that actually enable it. For example, a 2 mana 2/2 with Battlecry: Add 2 Void cards to your hand. Void is a 0 mana card with text "Discard this card", so you can either keep it to make your Doom Guard safer or your Mountain Giant cheaper or discard it to trigger some of that sweet discard synergy.
I recently came back to this game, last time i played patron was op as fuck, are warrior shaman or priest decent in the meta?
>>331663406
They'd need selective discarding or its just shit.
>>331664068
inb4 "Battlecry: Discard every card in your hand, this monster gains +1/+1 for every card discarded by this effect"
>>331664394
But we know that's not gonna happen. They just make more shitty cards. I was hyped for warlock in new expansion but they fucked it up already with the first card. I just hope they introduce a low cost (2 or 1 mana) damage spell. Something to substitute dark bomb in my malygos deck.
>>331664636
Still shit
