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>"you should pick up a hobby if you're depressed, anon"
>i play video games all the time, its all that keeps me going
>"no, a real hobby"
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for normies the only hobbies are watching tv and clubbing
fuck them
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>"Just snap out of it."
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>"no a real hobby"
>"okay i'll start rebuilding cars"
>"no, i mean a REAL hobby"
>"okay, I'll start collecting sports memoribilia"
>"no i mean a REALLY REAL hobby"
>"okay, i'll go get drunk and pass out at parties i wasn't invited to"
>"THERE YOU GO HAVE FUN ANON"
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>>331608218

>"what do you even have to be depressed about?"
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>>331608048
>clubbing
Mighty Zoroaster, how horrifying.
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>>331607960
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If you 'hobby' encompasses your life, its no longer a hobby, it is your life
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>>331607960
Consuming media is not much of a hobby though, you are neither exercising nor are you really creating anything. The closest to a hobby games can get is if you are playing something competetively.
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They all seem like bullshit responses because there's nothing someone else can say or do to make you magically not be depressed. That's on you guys.
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>>331607960

When they say that, they just mean getting something you can actually show off your work to other people, like carpentry or something where you make stuff.

Do you go around showing off your pokemon collection to people?
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>>331608512
>Consuming media is not much of a hobby though, you are neither exercising nor are you really creating anything.
?

>A hobby is a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time.
Where does it say it has to be any of what you mentioned?
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>>331608629
People who try to show off their hobbies are the worst regardless of what it is. If I went to my friend's house and all he wanted to do was sperg about his cabinetry I'd leave.
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>>331608512
A hobby is a regular activity that is done for enjoyment, typically during one's leisure time. Hobbies can include collecting themed items and objects, engaging in creative and artistic pursuits, playing sports, or pursuing other amusements.
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>>331607960
You need more than one hobby, anon. Otherwise you'll most likely tire of it after over exposure.
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>only other hobby is writing
>only way i express it is by writing for a video game i'm planning but will probably never make because i'm a piece of shit

i really wish a train would run me over
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Depression isn't real you goddamn snowflakes
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>>331608492
What kind of shitty Facebook tier quote is this?
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>>331608945
>only source of passion in entire life was writing
>haven't written anything since 2013
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>>331609116

Yeah, because medication and million of people doing research on it do not exist, its all in our mind.

Next you'll probably talk about how vaccines are just a ploy for pharma to get rich.
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>try playing video games when I'm upset to calm down or cheer up
>end up messing up and losing constantly because of my mental state
>this just makes me even more upset
>start thinking about why I'm upset and lose more
>just give up and lay in bed
What are some cute and happy games where I can just chill out and have fun? Something where my reaction time is irrelevant to gameplay.
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>>331609116
>just dont be depressed lol
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>>331608945
>have months of fun writing and drawing a couple hundred pages of design documents for a dream game
>it's a sequel for a long dead series owned by a company that's gone to hell in recent years
Kill me.
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>>331609379
fucking stupid weeb, so easy to find game like this. not my problem. try a puzzle game or something stupid fucker. and do not watch anime any more. will be big help to you. i promise
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>>331609379
Animal crossing is a great comfy game when you're bummed out. Or just fuck around in GTA or bethesda rpgs
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>>331608945
RPG Maker Ace is on sale anon.

If To The Moon can captivate so many people with its bullshit puzzles, you can hamfist your story into some gameplay no one will remember.
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1. you probably have an ok life if you have plenty of vidya. oh no you don't have a gf wow how sad and depressing. and you never will unless you grow up, stop feeling sorry for yourself.

2. vidya is not a hobby. tv isn't a hobby. going to the movies isn't a hobby.

3. You care more about (You)s than actually posting about vidya. Hence another shitty feels thread. or a filename thread. or a kotaku thread. pathetic.

4. the reason people don't relate to you or feel sorry for you is because you are so self centered. you may not think it but it's true. it's an awful way to cry for attention. you lack empathy and so you actually alienate yourself.

5. what are you doing except enabling your own disease? just sitting there crying about how depressed you are. nothing changes if you just sit there. inb4 "oh just don't be depressed lol" that's not the point. you need discipline if you want to get anywhere. nobody will save you except yourself
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>>331609351
Hey, fuck you
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>>331609482
>could potentially write hundreds of pages for my dream game
>every time i try i second guess myself constantly and end up deleting entire pages of shit
>hate myself and my writing so much that i almost never work on anything

serious question, how do i stop this. i hate this self-loathing shit but i just hate myself absolutely so much
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>>331609643
get drunk and write. That's what I do. then when you wake up you'll be able to edit with a level head.
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>>331609643
write a bit. then save it. leave it alone. don't even proof it. come back to it and review it.
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>>331609545
Each time I've tried this I've stopped because I can't even do mediocre art. Like, I can't even do passable developer art. No one is going to buy my game if it looks like dogshit.
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>>331609712
i don't drink anon, i hate the taste of beer and the idea of losing myself even temporarily

and please dont beer snob me and say i just havent tasted the right beer, i dont have the money to buy these fancy expensive beers
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>>331609643
>writing a video game

there's your fucking problem, retard
writers have a hard time selling a fucking poem and you think you're going to sell a game script? i have never heard anything so incredibly brain dead in my life.
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>>331609643
http://blogs.uoregon.edu/thepropercareandfeedingofwriters/shitty-first-drafts-by-anne-lamott-an-excerpt-from-her-wonderful-book-bird-by-bird/

read this and then get to it. stop deleting shit, you dipstick - tonights garbage is tommorrows diamond in the rough
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>been in a rutt since I dumped my gf
>sister moves away in next few months meaning lost a close friend
>can't find a job since live in the worst area in US
I'm thinking about doing something new. How decent is Rosetta Stone for Japanese or Korean? thinking about pirating it
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>>331607960
>normies talk to you
>yet you think you're still a lost cause
Fucking plebs.
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>>331608260
kek nailed it
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>>331609712

>Write a metric ton of shit while you are shitfaced
>Then siff through it in the morning

Why would you do that, you might as well go pick out corn off shit in the sewers, you fucking idiot. Its corn, yeah, but it was on shit, who the hell wants it once its been there?
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>>331609843
I'm not going to beer snob you dude. Relax. I can only speak from experience, but losing yourself can be a good thing every once in a while.

Either that or go somewhere a little unfamiliar. A place with no distractions where you either have to write, or go home and waste the trip. I usually get drunk and go to diners because of the coffee, but it'll be the same thing if you go there sober. Just go in the early hours when no one will bug you.
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>>331609867
why exactly do you think i'm trying to sell it you mongoloid? i have a job and i'm trying to work towards making my own game. i'm just working on the setting right now

you are a real fucking moron anon
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>>331610075
I didn't say shitfaced, bruh. Just enough to get the inhibitions gone.
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>>331609925

This.

If normies still take the time to approach and talk to you, you are probably closer to a normie than you actually think.
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>Swim for hours and hours, even outside of swim team
>Get severe respiratory infection
>Leads to lung scarring
>Leads to right sided heart failure
>Can't really do cardio exercise anymore
Oh well. At least I have video games
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>>331609379
some Kirby games
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>>331609908
hey thanks anon, I'll try reading this tonight

>>331610076
sorry man, bad experience with people who like beer. usually some annoying fuckers. i like the idea of going to some cafes or diners late night, maybe i will try that
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>>>/r9k/
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THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RACES, THE WORLD WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT IF IT WERE POPULATED ENTIRELY BY AFRICANS!
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>>331608945
You know trains exist right? You can go get run over by one for free you know.
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>>331610171

>inhibitions

Alcohol is a depressant, it doesnt magically make you think better.

You probably believe you drive better when tipsy. Give it a try, maybe you'll make the world a favor and drive yourself into a tree before you kill anyone.
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thread theme


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGFxyrOC7so
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>mfw I smoke weed because I'm depressed as fuck and people barely invite me to hang out
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>>331609163
He's right.
>>331608260
Literally retarded, go learn an instrument or something productive you smelly fuck
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>>331610347
I'm not sure why you're projecting so hard, but whatever helps you vent. I'm here for you. Because that's what friends do.
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>>331610372
Invite people to hang out. TAKE THE INITIATIVE YOU LITERAL ME-STONER
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>>331610372
I haven't been able to buy any because I'm saving for VR
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>>331610372
>>331610467
just give girls weed they'll get on your dick
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>>331610372
Are you sure people don't invite you to shit because you smoke so much and flaked out one too many times?
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>People call me lazy.
>Get diagnosed with MDD.
>People say I have it because I'm lazy.
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>>331610372

Make new friends, it's incredibly easy to do so if you smoke pot
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>>331610372
>can't even buy any because I don't have friends who know dealers
just kill me family
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I come here to escape my problems, you're only making it worse /v/
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Quick! Name the hobby with the most obnoxious people in it. I'll start: Music.
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>>331608578
This
You're not going to get a good response because most of the time people can't solve your problems, or don't have enough of their own not to care about yours
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>>331610609
writing
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>>331608260

If you really hang around people who believe that shit, you probably need to do yourself a favor and stop hanging around said inbreds.

Rebuilding cars is a damn good hobby, I don't know what kind of fucking retard would say otherwise... or who'd let someone else tell them otherwise.
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>>331610609
Video Games
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>>331610075

That could be the stupidest analogy I've ever heard.
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>>331607960
They obviously mean a hobby that can develop and benefit you
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>>331610609
league of legends
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>>331610559
I didn't know JE Sawyer's wife's daughter was a fat bitch.
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>>331610659
op here, i love games, music and am a writing major. there are worse people, trust me

the most obnoxious hobbies are "religion" and "parenting"
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>>331610607

>you're only making it worse /v/

We don't need these self-aware threads to do that. Seriously, /v/ and 4chan in general is absolutely toxic to depressed people.

But that's why we come here, isn't it?
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>>331609920
Bump pls
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>>331610824
>writing major
>can't even into religious texts/mythologies
>uses a gumball reaction image
you could at least try
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>>331610683
It's not a REAL hobby though, anon. You can't rape a car.
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>>331610609
art

>Draws an amazing piece in 5 hours that would take a non-talented artist weeks to draw
>"Hey, look at this piece of crap I made!"
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When people talk about hobbies that way, they mean hobbies where you're a creator, or initiator, or at least a learner. Video games are a consumer hobby, it's okay to have as a timesink, but don't pretend it's just as valuable as making crafts, or fixing cars, or playing an instrument or a sport, or learning a language, or at least leaving the house to jog, or indie development, or making youtube videos, or any number of things.
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>>331609920
>>331610985
it's ok but i wouldnt pay for it
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>>331610912
wallowing about it is much more lethargic than actually doing something about it. That's why these threads exist. I mean it's not a bad thing to find some comradely and to know you aren't alone, but at a certain point you need to do something about it.
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>>331608578
It's just really frustrating when you could really do with some concrete real actual assistance, and people just fob you off with wishy-washy feel-good platitudes, or worse, vague non answers like "Just try harder".

It's like when you're unemployed and people tell you to "Just find a job".
OH GEE THANKS FOR THAT
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>>331608048
Hey, clubbing isn't bad.
Those baby seals never see it coming.
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>>331611042
I know a kid who should be drawing doujins or some shit with his animu art skill but he thinks he's shit
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Rosetta Stone in general is "alright" but I can't really recommend their Asian languages. Better than pimsleur I guess.
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>>331611008

Fuck you, her V8 6.4L engine is more real than some fucking plastic figma figure.
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>>331611042
I hate that shit
Even if your work isn't perfect it isn't SHIT
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>>331607960
Get some exercise, get a fleshlight/make your own using a ziploc bag and put lube in it then place it between your mattress or couch and thrust until you're jacked
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>>331611283
Meant for
>>331610985
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>>331611227
That's correct though. Anime art is shit. If he wanted to be an artist of any merit he would try learning anatomy. But most artists are shit anyways so whatever
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>>331611169
Bruh the only thing that's going to pull you out of whatever you're going through is *you*. I know it's shitty but you'll wake up one day and you'll be over it and wonder why it happened in the first place. No one can help you with that.
that being said if there's anything you want to talk about then go for it.

I'm really not trying to be a dick, anon. But that's just how it is.
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>>331611283

How about Duolingo? I wanna learn weeb.

Ive been trying to learn french and german on it first though.
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>>331611290
She might be real anon, hell you might even be able to get her all greased up, but she can't love you.
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>>331611227

Why the fuck would someone want to waste their art skills on drawing fucking japanese porn comics?
For you even?
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>>331611008
>You can't rape a car.
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>>331611042

There are a lot of composition flaws in hastily thrown-together projects that you probably don't notice if you've never studied art, so what looks amazing to you may very-well look like total crap to the person who drew it.
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>>331611387
Duolingo doesn't have Japanese unfortunately
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>>331608048
>being this out of touch with reality
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>>331610372

day and night
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>>331611387
>trying to learn useless languages
LMAO
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>>331607960
>letting someone dictate how you feel
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>>331611383

>you'll wake up one day and you'll be over it and wonder why it happened in the first place

t. Never suffered from depression.
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>>331611443
I'm sure he would be ok with that
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>>331608945
As long as you enjoy writing then keep doing it, it exercises your mind and keeps you from getting alzheimers and shit.
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>>331610602
>not living in a state with legal weed
I'm so sorry.
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>>331611556
Of course I have. I've tried to kill myself three times. Stop making excuses for yourself.
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>>331611446
cool paintjob anon, i bet it makes your car go super fast
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>>331611519

Yes, why would you wast your time learning a worthless language when you could be spending that time playing video games or shitposting on 4chan?
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>>331610347

Edgiest post of the day
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>>331611619
>he thinks the federal government gives a shit about states rights
LMAO @ Democrats
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>>331611519

At least its not Latin...

Or Esperanto.
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>>331611443
Because drawing tits is fun?
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>>331610256
Man over half the adult world drinks, can't say every single one is annoying.
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>>331610075
>siff

What the fuck that's not a word you dumb faggot
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>>331610767
>wife's daughter
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>haven't lived with parents since 16
>white so welfare isn't actively trying to fuck me over
>finally getting my shit sorted with home life to live cheaply and well
>can't get a fucking job because loleconomy
>haven't completed any high-level certificates so welfare still an option if it's time to work for the dole again
>will soon get replacement computer parts
>will get back into drawing, and start drawing porn and rake in the commissions from obscure-fetish autists
>will have basically all the time in the world to git gud at the competitive vidya i want, with basic home shit sorted

soon, i will be playing outside of normie rules and it will be sweet
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>>331608308
I wish I had a reason to be depressed. I just cry in the shower and don't even know why.
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>>331611763
>tfw Esperanto could be a good thing
>instead it's a fucking meme
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>>331610347
Alcohol does get rid of your inhibitions though, it's the main appeal. It let's you say fuck it and be yourself without stressing.
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>>331607960
>Get a hobby anon
>Few months later I find weapons interesting
>Everyone thinks im weird

go fuck yourselves. a "hobby" to them is just watching fucking tv shows/films/shows in general, i like watching tv but i dont make it my fucking life
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>>331611806

I'm pretty sure he meant sieve, but he's probably drunk. He'll review his shitposts in the morning, and note the errors.
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>>331611806
>>331611941
I think he meant "sift"
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>>331609116
I fucking wish
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>>331610249
Is Kirby the ultimate feel-good series? Will it ever be topped?
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>>331611387
Get a text book that covers baby grammar, get memrise. Do the right 15 words a day, every day with regularity, do a textbook lesson every weekend, once on Saturday, review Sunday. If you're looking at Moon, Count down from the N5 list to like N3 I guess and buy Genki or a comparable book. For Gook there's a list of the most common Korean words arranged by frequency of use in the news already on memrise in decks of 1000 and I liked using the Tuttle series of text books.

After you can make baby sentences use them fucking everywhere to anyone who will listen. Shit like Hellotalk works.
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>>331610372
Same here senpai. Half of my irl friends are busy, the other half are just dicks.
>tfw been smoking for 5 years and no job again but still cant quit
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I'd pick up a hobby, but I'm 32 and it's too late to get good at anything
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>>331610372
How can you be boring while high, just smoke up and invite some other people to hang out/possibly smoke with them if they seem into it.
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>>331611924
>Get a hobby anon
>Get into Gunpla
>They say that I should stop acting like a child by playing with toys
And that's when I stopped letting my family into my personal life.
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>>331610397
I learned to play the violin, it didn't produce me anything.
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>>331611387
>German
Protip: Learn how Nominative (first person) works before you go anywhere.

Also, learn how to pronounce
ü, ä, and ö and how vowels change and make a "Dipthong" when placed like eu or äu (They both end up making an OY sound)

Also, I know you're just starting, but make sure you understand adjective endings and sentence structure before you move on to learning past tense or commands.


EX:
Something regular
Etwas regelmäßig

It is an irregular beer
Es ist ein unregelmäßig[e] Bier

I go to the store
Ich gehe nach dem Platz

I went to the store
Ich hatte zu dem Platz gegangen.
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>>331611479
(what what what)
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>>331612119
>having dick friends
Are you a femanon? It seems to mostly be women that have "friends" they hate.
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This song helps me sometimes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0sy7y54XAE&ab_channel=BowlingStoneDotCom
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>>331611169

if you have any way to just force yourself to do RL interaction with people who aren't awful, do that.

when I was depressed, forcing myself to interact with friends was the strongest way to keep the void at bay.

alternately, try find something to become intensely interested in and be completely unafraid to be sincerely engrossed in it.

it's hard to be depressed when you're too busy doing shit and learning shit.
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>>331612153
>but I'm 32 and it's too late to get good at anything

unless you want to be a professional athlete what's stopping you?
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>>331612053
Forgot to mention, start with the textbook because chapter 1 is always reading and you want to read in native orthography always. You can learn the script before hand I guess but the textbooks typically hide extra shit in there like a really simple word that they'll use often so at least scan those chapters anyway.
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They mean a hobby where you create something or actually move around.

Whenever someone tells you to get a hobby, they mean stop being a lazy, boring piece of shit 9 times out of 10.
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>Have had chronic depression since at least Elementary School where I was bullied a lot, currently 20 years old, will be 21 this year
>For two years I was a NEET after having dropped out of High School and got my GED at the age of 17
>Many things happened in my life over that time period, many relating to online experiences that I won't get into
>Ever since October of last year I've been working at a grocery store, and some nights are better than others, while other nights I get incredibly depressed while working
>Despite it being one of my hobbies, though it turned into more of a lifestyle, I haven't played many video games for what seems like awhile, mainly because I just feel burned out on them
>For the longest time I've been asking myself what I like and what I want to do, among other questions
>Got a Canon SX530 a few weeks back, mainly because my mother wanted me to take pictures during my brother's Firefighting training when it was a family day
>Before I felt like a failure, but over these past few weeks, I've been slowly realizing that perhaps I'm not, that I just feel like one because I didn't know what I was passionate about before, and because I was so hard on myself, and I just needed to find something I love
>Realize that I have a love for photography and nature
>I might not be the best but it's something I really do like, I took pic related yesterday
>Feel like I'm slowly breaking out of my cage and finding who I really am
>Considering dropping my shit job at the grocery store and working at either a plant nursery or in the garden department of a places like Lowes or Home Depot
/blog
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>>331612330
>rilo kiley
my fucking nigger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoBnGXkihu8
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>>331611887

It's an artificial language meant to truncate the development of a pidgin when mutually unintelligible groups find themselves needing to communicate. If you're not learning it for its incredibly niche application, you may as well be learning Klingon.
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>>331612323
Nah they just changed over the years, nice projecting though.
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>>331612350
>it's hard to be depressed when you're too busy doing shit and learning shit.

Pretty much.

This is how you get people off addictions, give em something to keep their minds off the shit they shouldnt be doing.
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>>331612153

if you've got the spare time and the passion/drive, you can get world class at anything in 5 years. Being world class at something at 37 ain't bad.

there was a study recently, forgot where, that showed that there is no significant difference between learning speed at differrent ages, it's just that older people have more mental hangups that prevent git gud, like an aversion for mistakes because they will make them look bad. kids don't give a fuck, they're too busy directly experiencing how awesome doing new shit is.
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>start playing around with rpg maker
>come out of my depression a bit, learning it fast
>looking into game maker
I have so many ideas I want to make into games but right now I'm having a lot of fun learning the software. A lot of people are saying to not bother with rpg maker and I see why it really limits creativity.

Maybe it's my calling or something. Any board on 4chan that deals with gamemaker?
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>>331611383
While the person's mental state is paramount, there is a FUCKTON of things other people can do to actually assist people who are feeling crap.
It's a catch-22 spiral in many ways, you feel crap today because you felt crap yesterday, and you'll feel crap tomorrow because you felt crap today, only worse because nothing good happened today and things are gradually sliding due to neglect.

It's selfish as fuck, but sometimes you need to be selfish and have someone go along with your selfishness to get out of the pit.
If someone's living in squalor, it does little good to say "you should really clean up", when having someone actually clean it up can help kick-start recovery (IE: Well it's clean now so it shouldn't be hard to keep clean).
If someone's having trouble getting a job, it'd be great if someone would actually sit down and really and truly try to help the person get a job, rather than just government form-filling exercises.
Sometimes you just need someone you can unload on without social pressures.

But no, the main method people expect depressed people to use is to simply 'snap out of it' and get better, spontaneously, with no resources or support. Meanwhile everyone just spouts self-help platitudes and "Just do it" slogans, as if they haven't heard them all before.

Luckily I tend to keep above the spiral, but it's a battle sometimes. I know that if I really let myself fall into it, it'd be fucking horrible to try and escape.
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Let's be real, a majority of you are white and at least middle class. Your lives have been easy and you've gotten everything you wanted from your parents. You don't know what it's like to struggle, but you're depressed anyway because you're all socially retarded.

Try to do something other than wallowing in self pity. Who cares if you're genetic trash with rat teeth and a weak chin? If your father got laid, you can too.
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>>331609248
>wrote throughout highschool and beginning of college
>felt like I was naturally talented, could have been pretty good if I really worked at it
>fell for the STEM meme
>fourth year of BSc in electrical engineering, 2.5 GPA, praying that I'll get a response from literally who companies for my first internship

I just want to start over
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>>331607960
>Normies think if you play vidya all day you have no life
>Proceed to use phone for the entire day and god forbid it needs to be taken away for an hour they literally sperg the fuck out
>Texting and making shitty post all day are having lives
>Meanwhile you enrich yourself in video games campaign and strategys
What kind of fucked up logic is this.
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>>331612671
You just need 10,000 hours of practice to be really good at something. At least that's what the book I was forced to read when I was academic probo said.
Outliers is a good book though
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>>331608720
The definition of hobby is entirely irrelevant, especially with the OP post in mind. Gaming looks really bad in comparison to climbing or carpentry, electronics or playing an instrument and so on.
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>>331612490

That's a nice pic. Continue taking more photographs.

What do you like most about photography?

What was the most recent thing you learned to improve with photography?
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>it's a blog thread
commit suicide
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>>331612834
all of Malcolm Gladwell's stuff is good
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>>331612739
Aside from it not being fair to compare something physical like poverty/joblessness with depression, talking about it definitely helps, I agree. But it'll just lead you to deciding for yourself that you want to get better, which was kind of my whole point.
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>>331612350

>try finding something to become intensely interested in
>tfw no matter how many new hobbies/interests I've tried, I cannot maintain sincere interest for more than a month

How do people do it?
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>>331612795
Butthurt nigger detected
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>>331612795
Fuck you anon. Some people are born with it. I have no reason to be depressed, but I am because i have a chemical imbalance thanks to genetics. So now I'm stuck taking meds for the rest of my life to keep me sane. Shit sucks
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>>331611387
Duolingo is shit useless for anything not European.
It has a set way it generates syntax and grammar, which is not catered to any non-European language.
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>>331613089

What have been your obstacles to retaining interest in something?
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Currently, I'm self-taught, but I'd think it'd be fun to take a class to better myself. I really need to better myself in steadying my aim more though, I just hold my breath to try and help.
I think it's relaxing in a way, and it's really fun, there's just something I really like about it that I can't put my finger on.
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>quiet person, generally keep to myself and play vidya
>couldn't be happier with my life and my outlook on the world
>everyone keeps trying to insist that I must be depressed
>people actually ask me "are you okay" out of the blue in the middle of normal conversations
It's fucking weird and getting a little annoying
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>>331613352
I wish I knew someone that cared enough to ask if I was ok
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>>331613221
Kinda true

Learning disability isn't exactly a privilege.
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>>331609843
>hate [...] the idea of losing myself even temporarily

Sounds like comfort zone problems.
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That normie is right, OP. Take up a hobby that you;

A. Enjoy

and B. Can be PRODUCTIVE with (not consuming media).

Voila, you'll no longer be a worthless gaymur.
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>>331613279

Before investing in a class, consider trawling the internet for free resources and git gud guides.

The stress of performing to a graded standard sucks the natural enjoyment out of an activity, and I developed anxiety with my drawing from that when I felt I wasn't improving fast enough for my own (because I wasn't putting in the non-classwork time to draw better).
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>>331608945
why are you practicing writing by writing for the thing in which writing matters the least

write some stories faggot

stories that can stand on their own
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>>331613451
I wish I knew someone

Anyone
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>>331613276

Once I learn the fundamental concepts, I almost immediately grow bored. I get very excited by the initial learning phase, but as soon as you move past that into improving as an informed participant, my interest flatlines.
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>>331613279
You can make good money on weddings you know
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>consuming media is a shit tier hobby

Then why is watching movies normal?
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>>331613352
It's so damn weird.
>Family calls up to wish happy birthday
>Asks if I'm getting out, if I'm okay, do I talk to people, etc etc
>Keep telling them everything's fine
>They call up 3 more times in the next week with vague excuses to ask the same things

Seriously, I'm fine, stop trying to creep me out.
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>>331613670

Because films have a much higher ceiling of demonstrated quality and artistic merit than shiteo gaymes. The same with music and literature.
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>>331613451
Are you okay?
faggot
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>>331612802

this is me but with drawing instead of writing
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>>331613670
watching trash popcorn movies is normal because normies. Watching "weird" movies please excuse the pretentiousness that make you think/have substance is not ok
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>>331612379
>>331612671
>>331612834
>>331612964
Thanks, guys. I was always bullied out of my hobbies and interests as a kid by my asshole stepdad, so it's hard for me to apply myself.
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>>331608945
>hobby is drawing, want to start a webcomic, really good at worldbuilding
>start getting into gear, planning everything out
>get encephalitis
>become a barely functioning emotional mess
>can hardly even do my job anymore, hours cut back massively

and that's why I play videogames all day
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>>331613796
I'm fine, thank you :^)
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>>331612795

Depression can be a result of a lack of shit to do and a lack of meaning. Being white/middle class robs you of opportunities for meaningful struggle, and so you get depressed.

Poverty-stricken people tend to be less depressed because they have shit to do, like avoid starvation and freezing to death. Hard to be depressed when avoiding death is the highlight of your day.

The current structure of "study to get certificate then get a job" has no contribution that gives people meaningful shit to do in their time off. If people were taught how to spend their home time better, either through institutions or through their parents(which are currently shitty assholes who park you infront of a TV and wonder why you can't do anything with your life) they would have less inactivity-induced depression.
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>>331613451
are you okay, anon?
smoking is bad for you; you should try quitting.
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>>331613756

>family knows I'm not fine, that I don't get out, and that I don't talk to people
>they ignore it and change the subject if the conversation starts veering into talking about my life
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>>331611283
What's free or easily piratable for a Japanese or Korean then? Help me out anon
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>have gf
>she works all day
>she needs a hobby
>she doesn't know what to pick
>she's into figures and that ongoing but she wants something more stimulating
>absolutely garbage at vidya but getting better
>still not to the point where it can really be a hobby though
>she wants to take up poledancing
Wat do?
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>>331613607

Why does your interest flatline after you learn the fundamentals?

Could you give an example of something you tried and then grew bored with, and why?
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A real hobby is something you need to work it

Playing video games is the same as going to the movies, it's not a real hobby

>inb4 games need to be worked at

Games are inherently fun. They're like sport except you don't get any exercise while doing them. I wouldn't consider playing sport with friends a hobby.
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>>331613451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyjzPWSMTYo
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>>331613539
Right now I'm not for certain if I see it as anything more than a hobby, but yeah, I figure it's one of those things that is fun when you do it for anything other than a grade.
Drawing's always interested me as well, but I almost never do or practice it, and I should, but I think it's one of those things you can't really force yourself to do, I dunno.

>>331613621
Eh, while I understand that, I can't help but feel it sounds boring.
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>>331614090
Get the fuck over to /int/

http://4chanint.wikia.com/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki
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>underemployed, make barely enough to get by
>spend most of my time looking for better jobs
>rejected by everything
>can't play video games because I feel guilty about not looking for jobs
>inevitably end up here
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>>331614038
I am, actually. I bought a cheap mouth fedora and have been trying to wean myself off
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>muh hobbies
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>>331614181
So are puzzles which are the hobbies of many old people.
Collecting things too.
A hobby doesn't require self improvement. But a hobby that improves your self is a good hobby.
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>>331614097
Hang yourself normalfag.
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>>331610609

I think you nailed it, you should've seen these kids that opened for my friend's band a few weeks ago. Between every song they had to stop and preach about gender fluidity and being accepting and how it's okay to be raped, etc. It was pretty amusing I guess but I can't even imagine trying to have a conversation with one of those wannabe martyrs.
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>>331613451
>Someone asks if I'm doing alright
>Tell them that I'm not doing too well
>"Oh ok then"

>Special friend asks if I'm okay
>Tell him I'm depressed
>"If you don't get better I'm going to move on without you"
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>>331608260
Working on cars can be very rewarding IF thats your thing.


I think people say that about video games because of the crowd. They mostly think of depressed lazy neckbeards when vidya as a hobby comes up.
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>>331608308
People who ask this probably don't watch the news.
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>>331613984
im both white and a minority, and i drift between white privilege levels of comfort and nothingness to 1st world levels of "poverty" and "struggle"

not sure which is worse - having to work to stay alive and relatively miserable, or being comfortable and feeling like existence is mere self indulgence
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>>331614336
>>>/r9k/
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>>331614354
that's basically why I've stopped venting to my friends about this shit. You can see how tired they get when you bring it up. Or how they're apprehensive to hang around you.
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>>331614436
Calm down.
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>>331614212
>but I think it's one of those things you can't really force yourself to do

Being able to force yourself to do a thing and improve at it is possible and a useful skill, and actually frees you to keep doing things you like regardless of your previous emotional state.

If you can try to learn that, it would make using your time way easier.
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>>331614354
"Special Friend"
?
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>>331614354
friends are pretty shit, just look at yourself - thats what i did and realized its time to rely on myself and uncaring, indifferent strangers on the internet

things will (probably) get better, anon. ganbate
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>>331611519
alright then fag, how would i go about learning mandarin then
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>>331614392

> being comfortable and feeling like existence is mere self indulgence

Luckily, this can be changed with enough hard thinking and new thinking. Try check this site out and see if it helps:

http://meaningness.com/
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>one of my main hobbies is fucking hookers
>can't tell anyone

I really do need to stop
I've already spent 3k this year
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>>331614537
But anon, I'm not even upset.
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>>331614354
Dude, fuck that "special friend". Nobody with any sense of humanity would say something like that.
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>>331614582
My partner
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>>331614748
People just get tired of hearing about it. Eventually you're just a bummer to be around.
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>>331614582
dude is a fag I think

Sounds awful though.
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>>331614665
>>331614239
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>>331614714
*upvoted*
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>>"If you don't get better I'm going to move on without you"
Instead of wallowing in self pity and posting about it on 4chins, catch up to him and don't let him outpace you.
All you're trying to do is make people feel sorry for you when in reality you like the addictive attention you get from being depressed.
Your friend probably wants to help you but he realizes that you don't want to help yourself and you just want to consume all of that pity that people give you because it makes you feel like someone cares about you.
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>>331614748
>>331614354
only someone who was already looking for reasons to bail on the "special friendship" would say that in this anon's humble opinion
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Do people go to golf forums to complain about how it doesn't make them happy anymore?
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>>331614950
Stop
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>>331614139

Speech and debate, drama, harmonica, guitar, various competitive video games, fencing, lifting, tabletop gaming, martial arts, chess, go, hiking, several languages, drawing.

Always the same deal. Initial fascination while first learning all of the basics and how to approach learning/improving, but at the point where it might start turning into a routine, I drop it.
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>>331609584
Damn, anon. This is the truth
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>>331614951
thats a misguided view of depression - a lot of people who are depressed can go largely unnoticed for long periods of time, save for of a few really close friends
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>>331615083
no they beat their wives
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>>331615083
Golf is a very social game so I doubt it. I can be pretty sure that most anons here are depressed because they're isolated 95% of the time and don't get any human interaction like me
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>>331615083
Why am I imagining a depressed golfer dejectedly rummaging through his clubs, all alone on the field, contemplaying suicide as much as the next hole, settling on a club, sighing before taking a swing. He takes his hand up to his brow to see how it went. Camera pulls back behind him...

we don't get to see what happened.
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If you have your basic health no disabilities or lifelong diseases depression is a meme. Just feeling bad from time to time and labeling it depression is just invention of women to reason with their own laziness.
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>>331610372
>smoke alone because I hate the stupid crap people say and I like to do it in 4:00 AM
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>>331615106
I'm the same fucking way, no joke. That shit drives me nuts with fighting games, especially.

>Oh hey I'm getting the hang of this!
>Well this isn't fun anymore...

And, like, I want to continue, but I don't WANT to continue.
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>>331614548
Noted. Thank you.
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I legitimately don't understand people who are not engaged in some sort of creative activity.

You don't need to be a writer or an artfag, but for heaven's sake do more than just consume other peoples work. Use your own knowledge and skills to add your own hand to the growth of humanity, or at least be training to do so.
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>>331607960
If you are truly depressed some sort of physical activity can help, also exposure to sunlight.

Videogames are nice, but not physical, unless you bring out your Wii.

Also seek treatment.
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>>331614946
My wife is a scholar and is considering doing research in hispanic places because she's tired of the PC shit up here and can do research in her field in those area.

I've been using duelingo to practice Spanish.
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Do you have a hobby other than games?

My hobby is guns.
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>>331607960
>Vidya not a real hobby
>Should be fishing, sewing, volunteering, etc.

Vidya is the biggest hobby in the world: it's a 100+ billion dollar a year industry.
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>>331615321
>from time to time

well what about from all the time to all the time?
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>>331608260
Wew lad, that's some heavy autism.
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There are tons of fun hobbies that would probably both keep your interest and give you social cred

Take up fencing, Or rock climbing. Or blacksmithing
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>>331615360
I'm the same. After I've done something once I'm kinda done with it, even if it's something you're never really finish.
>hey don't you want to keep practicing that song/make another short movie/keep writing
>what do you mean? I've already *done* it
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>>331615515
No anon, that's not depression despite being depression.
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>That guy that constantly have to remind you that he is depressed if you try to talk to him
I really don't fucking get you faggots.
You come online and join my party just to sit there and spread your bad mood to everyone else in the group

You faggots are the worst
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Take it from somebody who was completely antisocial up until a few years ago, met up with a group from high school and partied damn near every weekend - it gets old fast, especially when you realize how hopeless and idiotic people are. I just ended my friendships and changed the locks on my doors.

>mfw I'm finally going back to a quiet life of work, vidya, anime, and restful weekends
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>>331612834
Wait really? I have that book right now but didn't bother much with it.
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>>331615550
>tfw take up fencing and tea and people call me pretentious and shit
I don't care I'm not stopping. Also slowly learning how to cook and draw.
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>>331615190
I know, because I was one of those people, and it had gotten to the point of being so bad that I'd make up lies to people like someone close to me passing away just to get even more pity from them.
I realized how wrong and disgusting that is, and how much of an addiction something like pity can be, and I want to better myself, but I have to really want to better myself, or nothing will change, I can't just spout it out and hope something will change, I'm the one that has to take that first step.
But some people, for a lack of a better word, are content with the way they are now, I was the same way as well, but I can't be that way forever.
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I tried hobbies, did boxing, and weight lifting, and wargaming, whole time I'd think about being at home playing vidya. Thats probably a sign of addiction right there but screw it, I'm gonna do what I enjoy.
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>>331608308
Every damn time.
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>>331615704
I read it like 5 years ago but I remember liking it. Go for it.
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>>331608048
Fuck clubbing. raves are where its at. much better atmosphere
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>lack of vitamin D (take supplements)
>lack of exercise (just go for a walk every so often)
>lack of friends/social interaction (shit nigga I don't know go to a bar)

These are three major sources of "depression" (not the legit MDD, just feeling like shit all the time). Try to fix these and see if things improve. It'll be alright, anon.
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>>331615693
I can understand this if you enjoy your work. But I take it most here don't.
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>>331615083
>>331615278

Even if you're playing golf alone, it's hard to be depressed when the weather is nice and the course is beautiful. And I don't even like golf that much, definitely get the appeal though.
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>>331615515
I really doubt that you feel down ALL the time. We all have our shit moments.
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>>331608308
>economy sucks
>we dont have a future
>everybody has lost their innocence

why would i be happy?
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>>331615921
I just like driving the cars around
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>>331615874
I take supplements, I walk every day, and I have friends. I still feel depressed almost constantly.
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