Are there any good first person dungeon crawlers on PC? I've played through Wizardry 6-8 and both Legend of Grimrock games.
I know the 3DS and Vita have plenty, but I'm really looking for something on pc or that can be easily emulated.
>>331602375
Eliminage Gothic. Etrian Odyssey 1-3 are on DS and can emulate easily.
>>331602375
The entire Might and Magic series (1 through 10)
All the SSI D&D gold box games (Couple dozen, aren't there?)
That ought to keep you busy for the next 10 years.
>>331603003
I thought might and magic were rts games.
>>331604513
Heroes of Might and Magic are turn-based strategy games. Might and Magic proper are dungeon crawlers.
Anyone here ever beat Wizardry 4?
>>331605767
Never played it, was it really unfair or something?
>>331606443
You have absolutely no idea.
>>331605767
I'd like to give it a try someday, just for the hell of it. I'd want to play the first three Wizardry titles to have a "real" run as opposed to following a guide, though.
Get yourself a DS emulator and download The Dark Spire.
You can thank me later.
>>331602748
>Eliminage Gothic
Nice, I didn't know that series made it to PC
>>331602375
Have you gotten around to playing Dungeon Master? It's a classic and it's definitely worth a playthrough
>>331608443
I always thought DS emulation was totted as impossible?
>>331610248
DS emulation is easy, most phones these days can handle it
>>331610248
xbox dreamcast saturn are the ones you can expect nothing from. Almost everything else is extremely well support or has a budding community. DS has one of the best emulator`s if not the best.
>>331610248
You sure you're not mistaking it for the 3DS?
>>331605767
Nope, it wasn't even worth the effort getting halfway through it. It's unfair to the point where it wasn't even fun to play.
>>331611034
Wasn't there level 1 mobs that could kill you in one hit?
>>331611560
http://crpgaddict.blogspot.com/2010/10/wizardry-iv-everything-about-this-game.html
I think so, here's a whole bunch of other bullshit the game throws at you
>>331605767
I have. It's insanely unfun and the only reason I beat it was because I was poor and couldn't afford a new game. I called the old help hotline, and everything.
>>331611560
There's lots of things that can kill you at 1, but you're probably thinking of ninjas who appear through the game, and have insane agility to go first and are extremely likely to crit (ie instant kill)
>>331611560
>Wasn't there level 1 mobs that could kill you in one hit?
Most stuff could kill you in one hit. It's just that, at the back of your party, most stuff wouldn't target you. A lot of bosses could easily one-shot you.
Also, if everyone in your party was dead and/or paralyzed, it was a game over.
Oh, and one more thing: you only controlled the main character. The other stuff in your party was AI controlled.
>>331612175
It's like the worst SMT ever
>>331611927
>>331611560
>>331611034
>>331608003
>>331606443
>>331605767
I always love talking about this game just because of the amount of insanely unfair bullshit in it.
There is a point where game design can be challenging and difficult but IV can become literally impossible to beat.
>Another major example that seriously hinders unfamiliar players is the seemingly impossible task of exiting the very first room. The only way out is a hidden door which may be revealed by casting a "light" spell called "Milwa". The only way to do this is to recruit a group of Priests. This seemingly-simple task is made unintuitive due to the lack of any evidence that there is a door to begin with; the necessity of recruiting a group of Clerics, which are ineffective in combat and take the place of effective combat recruits; and the need to enter combat until the Clerics cast this spell. There is no suggestion in the context of the game as to what Milwa or any other Cleric spell name means; only players familiar with prior Wizardry games would understand its function. To a player unfamiliar with these earlier Wizardry titles, it would seem that the Clerics cast a useless spell. Furthermore, the Milwa/Light spell eventually expires, meaning that there is a limited time to find the door once the spell is cast. (Acknowledging the difficulty of this very first puzzle in the game, Sir-Tech included a sealed envelope in the game package containing its solution, to be opened if the player couldn't figure it out on their own.)
>>331602375
Ultima Underworld you fag
King's Field & Shadow Tower
>>331602375
Elminage Gothic. It's on Steam and GOG.
Pros: Mechanically similar to Wizardries 1-5, but a lot more complexity. 8 races, 12 classes, lots of dungeons. Pretty inexpensive, lots of value. I'm 80 hours in, still discovering new stuff.
Cons: Wall texture in the dungeons is hideous, UI is shit, shit, shit. Basically a straight PSP-port. Music is alright I guess, some neat , some pretty bad.
>>331612539
I love that the monsters were actually people's parties they mailed to Sir-Tech
>>331612539
Good God, that's horrible. I never played the pre-Bradley Wizardries (1-4), but now I know what to expect from 4.
>>331612519
No, that's still Ronde.
>>331610248
DS emulation has been solid for like 6 years.
>>331609338
>1 meg memory required
I'd play it if I didn't need a 6000 dollar computer to run it.
Eye of the Beholder series
Lands of Lore
>>331612539
That's not how you green text, FAGGOT
Is there a translation for the Playstation port of Wizardry IV?
>>331609338
Fucking this and the sequel. GOAT dungeon crawler.
>>331614402
I don't think so. Then again I'm not very sure.
>>331613620
>Doesn't have a 10MB HDD
Get a load of this peasant.
The Dark Spire and Etrian Odyssey for the DS. Just emulate them.
>>331615620
Saving up for one, in 3 or 4 years I'll be able to get one!
The Quest.
>>331615620
>>331612519
no that grimiore m8 Clive's never going to release it
>>331615620
PC MASTER RACE LOOOOOOL
>>331617649
SIX SPEAKERS OMG
>>331605767
I beat 6 but got burnt out halfway through 7,was great
>>331602375
Lands of Lore 1&2 are great, Eye of the Beholder games are good also
>>331608443
>>331602375
Fighting Fantasy: The Warlock of Firetop Mountain on the DS is pretty fun too, it's completely in 3d space though so you have to aim and shit. check it out
>>331617649
I love how they don't tell you what's actually inside it. Perfectly geared towards normies who will be dazzled by six speakers and that lens flare background to happily shell out $3000 buckaroos.
>>331610248
lucky you, I just delved into DS today
get DeSmuME X432R for it
retroarch's Desmume doesn't support custom scaling like image related so this is the way to go.
get normal desemume if you don't care about higher resolution 3D.
>>331612539
You can play this game for free in here:
https://archive.org/details/msdos_Wizardry_IV_-_The_Return_of_Werdna_1986
Enjoy it, faggots.
>>331619806
>Start the game.
>Give two steps. Literally.
>AN ENCOUNTER!
>Fight.
>You're dead!
>"Wait, what?!"
>Game over, better luck next time.
What the...
>>331617649
Man, I love the simplicity of PC advertisement back in the day. Super comfy stuff.
>>331602748
>Eliminage Gothic
Can you customize it as well as you could in the original?
>>331612812
Bonus points for being the hardest game in the series as well.
>>331621740
Ghostlight couldn't do it for some half-assed reason, so it's a lot less customized then, say, Elminage Original.
>>331621740
I think there's a mod that lets you do that
>>331622303
Well damn. Elminage is cool and all but the customization was pretty much the best thing about Gothic in particular.
If you like anime stuff there's also Class of heroes 1and 2 emulateable on the PC with 3 being released later this year
>>331617649
>3 graphics processors
You wot?
A 3D only Voodoo card, a 2D only card and ... what? An unused onboard video chip chewing up your memory by 'sharing' it, were those even a thing yet?
>>331620042
I'm not kidding when I say 'get good'. That death was avoidable.
>>331612519
I'm pretty sure Wizardry 4 is actually the game that inspired Megami Tensei's mechanics.
>>331625570
Unlikely, considering release dates. The inspiration for the demon summoning mechanics are pretty easily explained by attempting to emulate the books it was based on.
>>331627315
either way, the japanese fucking love wizardry. they got lots of wizardry videogames, animes, manga, even a god damn mmo.
>>331605767
>Game must be beaten with a limited number of keystrokes
>Also has a secondary invisible timer that can only be stopped near the end of the game
>>331605767
"The Dark Souls of Wizardry games"
Sell me on Wiz6-7, anyone?
>>331611927
dats a pretty comfy site senpai
>>331602375
Try mind zero
