Fates Thread!
How's online? Does it require skill?
Also, is Azura the most important unit in this game?
I benched Azura, that a good thing or bad thing?
Rather use the other royals than azura desu, she's terrible.
Azura is a pretty important unit, since she can give another turn to any other unit, which is amazing in battle. Haven't tried online yet because I haven't gotten around to installing the update cia yet.
>>331540892
Bad thing. Sure she gives 0 damage most of the time, but her singing is invaluable.
>>331540913
Can we even play together? I think you're using the fan translation, while I'm using the Treehouse version.
>Online Fire Emblem
I swear it wasn't a good idea in FE11 and 12 and it was never a good idea in FE14.
i can't beat conquest on hard and i am a meme, i don't have enough good units, nothing left to use to grind, and i am a meme
i am a meme and i started a new hard playthrough to do things like use suzukaze to make him good, make sure i use leo and camilla to make them good, and get a CamillaxFlannel Velour because she's supposedly insanely good
i am a meme and it is okay
>>331541497
forgot to mention that im stuck on the endgame and can't get to takumi, slime daddy on the previous chapter is easy and requires no effort to beat
>>331539914
>dancing/singing
How do people even use this? There was this dancing unit in Awakening and I never used her because enemies would always priority target her and she would die with a single hit. It was impossible to make meaningful dances because the units that actually needed two turns would usually always be under siege.
>>331541748
you make a wall around them. Dancers become one of the best units in terms of utility in harder difficulties.
>>331541985
>make a wall around them
Just so mages, archers and even melee units with ranged weapons can pick them off?
>>331542052
your own fault for putting them right in that range then.
2 spaces apart is enough.
>>331542169
They are useless if the enemy has a pegasus with ranged weapons (and most stages later on got those) because of their capability of picking off units
>>331541748
>How do people even use this?
get fucking good, Dancers are by far the best units in SRPGs, especially in Fire Emblem. Giving any unit on the field 2 turns is invaluable, whether it's a tank, a damage dealer, or a healer.
>>331541748
>I never used her because enemies would always priority target her and she would die with a single hit
get good desu
>>331542321
>be game
>5 enemies close together
>send 3 units
>each unit kills 3 enemies
>send dancer
>dance for one unit
>that unit kills one enemy
>end turn
>that one enemy left kills dancer
>????
Every
time
>>331542272
then pair them up to save them from certain death if they are in range.
It's not rocket science.
>>331542452
It's impossible to dance and right after that switch so your partner can take the damage though.
>>331542440
>leaving your dancer open to attack in the first place
Spotted the retard.
>>331541748
There isn't a single mission I've had where Azura wasn't useful at least once for me. She ain't the best offensively, but at higher levels, her singing will actually boost stats, AND she has exclusive items that can heal multiple characters around her. She's lame as hell as a character, but useful in the field.
>>331542440
don't send a vulnerable unit into a situation where they'll very easily be picked off and die you mong, that's the entire point of making tactical decisions.
you don't send your healers into enemy ranges do you?
>>331542559
why would you attempt to dance when you know your dancer is in enemy range in the first place?
>>331542597
>>331542602
But there is nearly no situation where she is useful if I can only dance to units that are not withing enemy attack range in the first place.
The thing with healers is that I can place a healer in a safe location, and then make units retreat when their health pool is low so the healer can heal them while in a safe position. And later on there is also high range heals. It's different with the dancer, though, because it'd be extremely retarded to pick a unit that can attack an enemy, retreat, dance for that unit, and then send that unit back to the same spot.
>>331542597
>>331542602
How the fuck are you supposed to get your dancer in range to dance for the unit that just moved and simultaneously not be in danger? If you give that unit another turn to move by dancing for them then it's probably to kill more nearby enemies, and if not, then why bother unless you have to do something in low turns or something.
Fates has Dark Souls 2 tier problems that aren't enough to ruin it but enough to make people like Aqua useless late game unless you're going for some gimmick, and that problem is that enemies aggro in groups, there are almost never lone units, and since you most likely can't beat them all in one turn your dancer is vulnerable the next turn or they gang up to kill someone you may have put up to "wall" her off. There's a problem, if you need to wall her off so she doesn't die the next turn, the units you used to wall her off could have been used to instead go try and kill the remaining dudes, and Aqua stopped being useful after chapter 10 unless I wanted to use her for a gimmick like beating the endgame in one turn or whatever in Conquest.
Your relative comes to you wearing a bikini, what do you do?
Azura is a sanic and lucky af. She shouldn't be getting hit at all unless you're a cuck, and she literally eats magic attacks.
>>331542801
>>331542915
holy fuck i didn't know it was possible to be bad at fire emblem. dancers have always been the most useful units in the series. especially because they always get loaded up with skill, speed, and luck so they can dodge attacks. if they're getting attacked more than once a turn your tactics are just shit.
you don't send the fucking dancer in the middle of a gang rape situation, you use them to pick off stragglers with strong units like cavaliers or you use them to give healers or mages an extra turn to wail on people. this allows you to finish off a strong enemy in one turn or pick off multiple weak enemies to clear your area.
an extra turn is literally invaluable as every single unit on the field can benefit from it
>>331543262
Past mid game or chapter 15 there's literally never a time where using her is more effective than bringing someone better
Send in a unit with shelter if azura is still in danger. Problem solved. The lead unit should be able to track a few hits from the nearby stragglers
>>331540892
Bad idea senpai. Player turn is super important.
Also she has some nice support skills. Azuras probably the best refresher in the series.
>>331542801
Just the extra move command can be invaluable.
You can pick off an extra enemy from an attacking wave, have a unit with a good match-up deal with a problematic foe twice(like a guy with tomebreaker attacking twice instead of risking a unit that cannot dodge or is more inaccurate) or depending on position, extend a unit's movement almost to double it was originally.
Aqua remains a top tier unit even in lunatic.
This does not factor her passive aura that mitigates damage by 2 for eberuthing AND her song giving buffs to a unit.
I won't even mention reclassing her to give her rallies if you want and have double support capabilities for any situation.
You not knowing how to use Aqua properly does not make her a bad unit.
Half of your complaints are mitigated by pairing her with a high mobility unit
>>331543080
I marry her of course!
>just got to chapter 9 Conquest
>see Azura on map
>level 1
This is going to be fun. I hope to find a fast/beefy unit to pair her with so she doesn't die all of the time. I paired her with Subaki in Birthright and that worked out well since he turned out fast and has high mov, but was shit at killing anything so was good for basically nothing but support.
>>331543262
>you use them to pick off stragglers with strong units
Why not just replace that dancer with another strong unit? That'd be much more useful.
>you can heal more than once in a turn
Why not use two healers? Again, that'd be much more useful.
Sounds more like you are using a dancer to be a jack of all trades, yet a master of none.
>>331543080
Ask her to sing 2 different songs
>he didnt give Azura the boots
>>331543367
In conquest especially, you do most of your killing by luring waves (either to proper placement whered attack or defense pair up units take the attack, or just outside the range).
So her passive aura and her allowing your best unit to do a second attack are easy to abuse.
I have also been saved by having her singing for my staff user for a double heal or a heal+freeze.
Too many good combos
>>331543110
>Azura is a sanic
>one of her support quotes; "You're too slow!"
mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-w9PukG97oQ
>>331543406
>Aqua remains a top tier unit
For you
>You can pick off an extra enemy from an attacking wave
No you can't unless you manage to clear the ENTIRE wave in a single turn. If at least one enemy is left, they will probably one hit KO the dancer which would necessarily be in range if her dance was useful to take down one more enemy.
>b-but muh wall
So you are wasting a bunch of units just to wall her? It'd be more useful to literally remove the dancer and let the units involved with the wall attack the enemies
Uhh did the modders uncensor the game yet? Haven't really followed this shit. Been playing other games.
>>331543516
>Sounds more like you are using a dancer to be a jack of all trades, yet a master of none.
Except she is not the one doing the healing or fighting dumbass.
She allows a master to move twice.
>>331543682
>leaving enemies alive in range
I have found your issue
>FE
>requiring skill
As fun as these are for me, the skill ceiling is incredibly low.
>>331543516
Why not use azura, so when I need 2 heals i get them without bringing 2 healers and when I need something dead I just sing my assraper unit?
>>331540892
She's only super important in CQ hard or higher or in Lunatic any version. Otherwise she's just convenient to have.
>>331543552
>Level 41
>16 HP
>>331543751
You couldn't kill them all in one turn because you wasted a slot on the dancer and enemies aggro in groups so you can't kill them all in time
>>331543262
Not gonna lie, I've beaten PoR like 4 times and basically never used Reyson. Half the time he can dance four guys at once and I'd still rather use someone else.
>>331542801
You just described a situation where a dancer is extremely useful, you can move your unit out to heal it, dance, and move your unit back to the front lines all on one phase. And you can do this every single turn. How is this not incredibly efficient?
>>331543891
>Dancer gives your best killer a second move
>essentially making them a second unit
>wasted slot
>>331543812
....Is this an adult image?
>>331541748
I use her for ganging up on static bosses.
>attack
>heal attacker with staff character
>sing
>attack again
>>331543812
It gets better
>mfw Effie blocks out magic and has bullshit defense
God, how is she so OP?
>>331542768
If that's the case, you're using a capable meatshield entirely to have a mediocre pair-up partner when you could be using someone who doesn't need to be babied.
A dance requires being in range, and being in range means being more exposed to enemies if it's so necessary to do this dance. And it'll just give you another turn, which doesn't mean as much as what a unit does on the enemy's turn instead.
>>331543682
>For you
No for most people who have been playing FEs through the years.
>No you can't unless you manage to clear the ENTIRE wave in a single turn. If at least one enemy is left, they will probably one hit KO the dancer which would necessarily be in range if her dance was useful to take down one more enemy.
That would imply you overextended and lured too many units , or that you broke formation and allowed the dance to be open when they should not. Not different than leaving a frail mage or archer out. To put it in very blunt terms, since you say 'bring a better unit in', it's likely that allowing my paired up Corrin to move again would be much more effective than any other unit I have.
Or any of the Nobles in either game
>So you are wasting a bunch of units just to wall her?
You are supposed to have a proper formation when you attack and defend regardless.
Do you leave your mages open like a fucktard?
>>331543951
Still not enough to kill the obscene number of enemies thrown at you at a given time that won't slip through and kill her on their turn
>>331544013
Her Res is 30%, so not that great.
If you are blessed, that's good.
>Chapter 10
I can get to like turn 10 or so reliably but every fucking time someone gets killed
FUCK ME
>>331543996
People seriously underestimate Azura?
>>331544027
So how is that any different from over extending a mage, except Kamui gets to move twice?
I'm playing 7 right now. The guy who thinks you can't use a dancer to dabce for a unit while keeping the protected is a retard. Multi layered walls is completely basic.
>>331544185
Muh HP and muh Defense scare people.
>>331544027
If there is an obscene amount of enemies that slip thorough, you have fucked up, dancer or not.
Because if you leave out strugglers with cracks at your formation, they can go attack your helpless mage/archer or a magic user goes to attack your meatshield.
Which means you fucked up before the dancer was part of the equationm, who in this case with her passives allows for a stronger formation
>>331544020
>Do you leave your mages open like a fucktard?
Yes because my mages can destroy almost any unit that attempts to attack them, save a few exceptions. The only actually frail units are healers, archers and dancers.
>>331544162
So just keep going? I mean, most units at that point aren't worth keeping anyway, unless Nile has a homo child that isn't half bad. Sacrifice Arthur. He and Percy both suck.
>>331539914
Who the fuck is azura?
They changed her name? Why?
Dancers are extremely useful, moving twice on player phase (MUCH MORE IMPORTANT THAN ENEMY PHASE) is invaluable and thats not even considering how pretty much every dancer is going to get a number of buff spells. Ninian's Grace in 7 is fucking broken
>>331544221
You have to basically "over extend" in conquest to bait any enemies because they aggro in groups, and you either send in Marx or Effie to survive the attack or you send in someone else and let them die because they can't take hits from 3 enemies in one turn and survive, >lol just dance dood
have you even played it on lunatic?
>>331544402
oh please. It's not like Aqua was anymore original name.
>>331544224
That's not the game he's talking about though.
The dancer in Fates will literally be one hit killed in a single hit by every single physical enemy in the game, with map and enemy design that incentivizes doing things fast for maximum reward or attacking you from a lot of areas or with a lot of gimmicks.
>all these people complaining about Azura being too squishy
>they don't know the pain of using the Herons
At least Azura can sometimes dodge.
Im at chapter 13 in Birthright and so far i've lost:
Takumi
Saizou
Oboro
The villager girl
That little brat who is the son of wind village chief
So far so good right?
>>331544372
>Percy
>Suck
Percy's paralogue is one of the most useful ones in the game and as a unit he's really solid.
>>331544420
Enemy phase is a million times more important than the player phase.
>>331544371
Archers are much better than mages in Fates, for starters.
In Lunatic, having a mage who will survive more than one attack and be reliable enough to dodge is unlikely
>>331544430
She is usefu especiallyl on lunatic where fewer units can actually survive and deal good damage.
Having a royal or Kamui move again is more valuable than bringing in a second stringer.
On Lower difficulties, even on hard, you can bruteforce maps even using mediocre units like Peri and Laslow
>>331544530
Ironman or "I reset if I feel it"?
>>331544608
Depends on game.
It is more important in the vast majority though.
>>331544530
>Takumi
Not so good. He's a very good unit.
>Saizou
Eh. You can do with Kaze.
>Oboro
Replaceable with Shiro
>Mozu
Another excellent archer.
>Hayato
Garbage, but his daughter is good.
>>331544592
I forget what his paralogue is, and I probably won't ever remember it because Percy sucks and I have no motivation to get him back.
And I tried. I married the retainers together for maximum STR and DEF, and he still sucked.
>>331544530
I am pretty sure you will end up only with Ryoma and Corrin at this pace
>>331539914
>>331539914
LOOK ME IN THE EYES!
>>331544530
>losing units in Birthright
>at all
kys you f*ckin scrub
>>331544529
>sometimes dodge
She dodges all the time familia. Get her lance rank up and watch her go to town on the retaliation. The STR gains dont lie.
>>331541145
Funny you say that considering she is almost guaranteed to cap str/speed/skill
And her str cap is highest on songstress.
>>331544530
>losing units in BR
>losing Takumi
>>331544530
>Losing all these decent or great units
>Hasn't lost Rinkah yet
How is that possible?
Who were your mvps?
>>331539914
Fates is shit
>>331544813
Yeah I use her. I just don't put her on the front line because she got hit by a 2% hit chance OHKO once. I use her to finish off enemy mages.
>>331544786
His original def growth before class are applied is 55%.
You must have really fucked up if he is not a good mobile tank
>>331544329
I time her just right. she can be stupid fast, have bullshit luck, and okay resistance. But the fuck skill, holy shit.
>>331544786
>Paralogue with loads of money
>An extra flier that completely out classes Beruka and can be obtained stupid early even with no grind
You're doing something wrong
>>331543552
>Aqua with Line of Death
I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ONE FOR WEEKS WHAT IS THIS GUY'S CASTLE ADDRESS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Seriously, bubble cannon Aqua is the only thing that can make the trash that is Revelations fun. I'm at Chapter 13 Lunatic with a level 21 Aqua that has 26 Speed and 24 ATK. I picked Lancer as my class to make her a Holy Lancer but at this rate it won't be necessary. I should've picked Samurai.
>>331544968
Aside from OUGI, Aqua, Corrin?
Saizou ended up amazing in my run.And Mitama was an incredibly durable healer with enough strength to OHKO fliers
>>331545073
Nah. Beruka has been a hard hitter for me with her Opportunist skill. She stays.
>>331544968
Rinkah master race.
>Oni Chieftain
>Bolt Axe
>Pike-Rune Club
>>331544694
Can you show me a video or something of someone using aqua lategame in conquest? It doens't even have to be lunatic, I just want to be wrong so I can use her better
>>331544981
Agreed. The writing's bad all around, the royals are too strong compared to regular units and you fight the same units way too many times.
>>331544948
Rinka actually isn't that bad. Flame Blood means that she basically has a free +4 Str/Mag once her HP isn't at max.
Just give her a robe.
>>331545196
Ruin*
>>331544968
I used these the most
>Velour
>Nohr Noble Kamui
>All the Nohr Royals
>Ryouma
>Keaton
>Fair finger of fate
>Shiro
>Lesbian
>Ass pirate
>give her a seraph robe and boots
>shes good to go
>>331544734
Full ironman, Xcom style anon, i want to feel the empity space left by the smiles i couldnt protect.
>>331544775
>Takumi
Yeah, his bow was really good, too bad he was killed alongside the blue haired archer in the ninja village map, he got surrounded by neverending enemy spawns, thought he could take care of it.
>Hayato
>His daughter
>His
w-wait what? womans are the ones carrying the children right? the men are just for the skills, r-right? dont tell me that...
>>331545196
>>331545267
I kept Rinkah to the very end. I tried making Rinkah work. She never worked.
>>331539914
Last time I went online I was matched against some guy who had +9 weapons on all his units and every tomebreaker on one unit
It's basically Korean MMO pvp
>>331544452
At least it's appropriate.
>>331545196
You aren't kidding? She was useless for me on both revelation and birthright.
Like, the only unit that got fucked even more by range in my team was Mozu.
>>331545205
No, because I play the game and discuss it.
I do not watch videos of playing others.
But seriously, I can think of like 2 FEs total where a dance is not amazing and this game is no exception.
People have highlighted the tactis and utility in this thread
>>331545205
https://youtu.be/hkPw7SXzJZg?t=1433
Not any of the people involved in this debate but I was just reading the thread and I'm convinced you're just bad or not using your head.
>>331543548
http://trabeate.tumblr.com/post/141186939673/aqua-kanna-motherchild-convo
http://trabeate.tumblr.com/post/141209744698/hoshifest-kamui-shigure
She knows more than one song. She just won't ever sing them for you.
>>331545346
Hayato has the lesbian mage as his daughter.
Also the only unit who can handle a horde is Ryouma.
>>331545364
But you can only forge up to +7
>>331545349
Give her a robe. Competition can be stiff between Hana and Hinoka.
Try to avoid healing her all the way up to max.
Go Blacksmith on promotion first and then you can class over to Chieftain.
Partner wise, she's an excellent stat stick but if you want her to fight then abuse the Bolt Axe with a few dusts for back up or the Killer Axe.
>>331541497
Just start over, be a good goy and give nintendo some shekels for that XP mission and have funpansy
Is it bad to make my avatar become the Hoshido Noble Class? I have an Exalt Brand but that doesn't seem to be any better.
>>331545196
rinkah is a terrible unit with awful strength as a fucking fighter
The only thing she has going for her is defence in a campaign where you get like barely any tanky units because nips can't make armor worth a shit. She's best off as a pair-up slut, boosting others.
>>331539914
Azura is best girl!
guys, is revelations worth it?
is the story good?
how's the map design and difficulty?
for what it's worth i finished birthright (liked it), and am on chapter 24 in conquest (love it)
Does the XP map make conquest as much of a joke as it did in awakening? I mainly picked it up so that I can level up the characters I don't regularly use.
>>331545312
I want to cum on her feet
>>331543996
The amount grinding to get Azura to that level, that early, is stupid
>>331545786
At least she's the bestest girl.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wML3LMnLpI
>>331545889
Well considering that Revelations is the only canonical story, no, it's not worth.
>>331545725
I prefer Nohr Noble because it can take more than 2 hits, but Exalt brand will be fine for Kamui.
>>331545889
>is the story good
No. You just kill the disco ball and become the king.
>map design
Good. Real good at times.
>difficulty
Lower than conquest by a bunch.
>>331545591
i dont get it, you are telling me that the men are the ones that carry the children, not the woman like in awakening? so losing the male unit means losing the children and not just the father?
>>331545889
>guys, is revelations worth it?
Yes, if you like shipping and/or Azura (and want her to live).
>>331545889
Revelations is only slightly better than Conquest in terms of story and almost all of its maps are shitty gimmick fests.
If you're starved for FE, I guess you should buy it.
>>331545889
Revelations has a bad story and bad balance because they didn't change units bases to account for when they join (Nyx, for example, joins late and has dogshit stats)
That being said it's by far the best mode to child autism and minmax on
>>331545927
I find that as long as you get her to level 10 by the end of Chapter 5, you're pretty much good to go. It's not crazy high grindshit so it won't take long and keeps her at a reasonable area of protection and defense for the enemies to come.
>>331544372
Wait Nina's gay? She seems like she can't stop spying on men showering.
>>331545889
It's weird in terms of map design (think Gunter's conquest chapter) but I found it enjoyable. My Castle is the best in this version and it's fun to fuck around with supports.Scarlet and Izana die.
>>331546082
Nah I mean in the linked images. Azura is level 41 at like chapter 14 of revelations. THAT is a stupid amount of grinding
>>331546092
I don't fucking know. I didn't keep Niles. But he's gay, and that shit rubs off.
>>331539914
Azura is a pretty helpful support/glass cannon unit. And by glass cannon I mean GLASS.
She starts at level 1 though and you don't get her back (at the same level) until everyone is around 10. I would highly suggest using the mission you can use her in early to grind her to ~level 5. Just stay out of the range of the boss and have her spam her Sing on your avatar.
>>331546132
>"YOU CAN SAVE EVERYBODY!"
>Welcome to the tutorial
>You cannot save everybody
>>331546092
She's not. She's a fujo.
And a clingy but cute one in her supports.
>>331545714
Is pairing her with keaton or benny in revelation worth it at all?
>>331546241
Technically, he is bi.
And she is a fujo. Watching men fuck is her fetish, women do not interest her.
Her support with Soleil is essentially 'My fetish is better than yours'
>>331546030
Yes that is correct, with the exception of azura and kamui.
So far you have forfeited:
Kiragi
Asugi
Rhajat
>>331545346
>Ironman
I did an ironman run on conquest. Made it to chapter 19 before I realized I was probably fucked.
The only ones left were Corrin, the 4 Nohr Siblings, a lvl 4 villager Mozu, Khaden and Jakob.
>>331546252
>~level 5
would recommend 10 desu, just to be /safe/
>>331546092
She's a fujoshi. A starved fujoshi who'll pretend inanimate objects are men who should be a bit more than friends.
>>331546302
Sucks that Scarlet didn't get a replacement. At least Izana got replaced by Fuuga.
How do you guys make Sakura not useless?
>>331546335
That clears my filthy gaijin mind up. I always figured she was just/hm/personified
>>331546045
They get a DLC conversation tomorrow.
>>331546356
>Khaden
Keaton?
>>331546217
The guy did it as an experiment.
Then drew the results.
She beat everything except Hydra's face.
Wait, so aren't all the people you fight in Revelation that are under spell technically dead?
Who are you going to rule? Azura?
>>331546601
>berserker Elise
For what purpose?
>>331546601
pixiv account?
>>331546645
I'd rule her all night m8.
>>331546751
No nuns with axes, so Odin had to improvise.
>>331546338
well fuck, but its not like i was going to let everyone alive anyway, shit happens, now let me check those kids i've lost
>Saizou's kid is the candy addicted thief in awakening
TIME TO FUCKING RESET
Should I bother with doing Conquest on hard? People make it out to be some kind of torturous hell that they'd wish upon their mortal enemies, and this is my first real Fire Emblem game.Also, I know that Camilla is the best mother for Velouria, but could I get away with having FeCorrin marry Keaton in hard mode instead? Or will that completely fuck me over?
>>331545346
What difficoulty are you playing?
>>331546987
If your Kamui has +STR modifiers then Velour will be ok.
>>331544530
I'm not quite as far as you, but I've lost Azura and Saizo.
Both times they gave me the 'I'm gonna retreat' spiel, but still ended up off the roster without me noticing.
I guess Azura can't 'die-die' since the game needs her around for story stuff.
I was in my first castle battle when Saizou got swarmed (I was getting cocky since he was doing well on his own for a good while) When he gave the "For my liege, I shall retreat" stuff, I though he was just removed from the map, cause maybe castle battles work different or something, which turned out to not be the case.
>>331546987
Beat it on normal first and if you want a bigger challenge then do Hard, you still have a lot of the freedoms from Normal to use just about whoever you want and succeed so long as you invest in them.
>>331546987
>this is my first real Fire Emblem game.
You should probably play on normal instead.
>Or will that completely fuck me over?
The game isn't really done with the kids on mind, so you can play without them just fine.
>>331546987
You should try. You can alway lower difficulty when you're stuckor man up
And marry Benny. Child is something else.
>>331546915
Yeah BR has
Asugi (Gaius)
Caeldori (Cordelia)
Rhajat (Tharja)
On CQ you get
Selena (Severa)
Odin (Owain)
Laslow (Inigo)
>>331547130
I'm in the middle of a normal mode run now, I'm on like chapter 24 or something. I wanted to do a hard mode run after I finish this one.
>>331546987
If it's your first FE maybe play on Normal, or beat Birthright on Hard/Lunatic to get a sense of the challenge. You can always do replays later. If you get your ass kicked too bad there's nothing wrong with restarting.
Conquest is hard but the maps are extremely well designed and require good tactics. It's not some kind of hell, it's a legit great challenge.
Children are generally unimportant in Conquest outside of the best ones, and Velouria is good pretty much no matter who her mother is. Corrin is fine, especially if you give her +STR
>>331546987
It's hard but you can always lower the difficulty to normal. And Veloria Corrin is decent. Not to mention that you also get Wolfsennger Kanna as well.
>>331546987
Conquest on Nohrmal already makes people sweat bullets. A new player would ragequit.
Velouria's hard to fuck up eugenically, so long as your Bane isn't ATK or DEF or something.
>>331541748
Dancers are invaluable for grindan units of your choice, getting two kills a turn instead of one is great.
It helps that Fates has one of the beefiest Dancers too, with ridiculous early Skill gains that make her pretty much unhittable until Promotes start showing up.
>>331547119
>My Castle
>permadeath
Were you on a challenge or online?
>>331547197
>>331547217
>>331547334
>>331547357
I'm already doing a normal run, this is for after I finish it.
Should I be FemCorrin or MaleCorrin on my Conquest playthrough?
>>331546765
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=53635538
>>331547485
Fem
>>331547485
Fem. It will be hella gay at first, but it somehow fits better.
>>331547413
It might have just been a challenge that took place in the castle.
I'm still not quite sure how all the My Castle stuff is supposed to work yet.
>>331547485
Female, so you can rationalize all the stupid decisions and sudden crying as menstruation.
>only wears the black dress for one cutscene
its just not fair bros
I'd love my speedy glass cannon more if she could wear the better dress while doing it
>>331547446
Then you should. Enemies actually have skills in Hard. I'm having way more fun on my Hard Conquest replay than Revelations
>>331547590
Challenges and invasions are considered actual stages and will have permadeath
Online battles and seize castles are just for fun and have no permadeath.
>>331547643
Who is this mysterious dancer?
>>331543548
I do get might sick of hearing "Yooooou are the oceans gray waaaaves~" for the tenth time in 10 minutes
>>331547643
You can't even buy the costume? That's fucking bullshit.
>>331547485
Female because she's on the Nohr boxart and Male is on the Hoshido boxart.
>>331547485
Fem because you can look at that ass all day
>>331547716
I dunno man, we should find Azura and ask her, she might know.
Do "Rally -stat-" skills increase that stat untill the end of the enemy turn?
>>331546751
Probably for Rally Strength and her personal skill.
>>331547716
That's my wife, I recognize those feets anywhere!
>>331545349
I got her up to like 88% crit with a Great Club
>>331547829
Yes.
Felicia is such a cutie, every class looks pretty on her!
>>331547054
Hard, with perma death as you can see. Next im going Lunatic with also perma death, but at least i wont be as overconfident as in my current run, because it is a slow and insidious killer
>>331547590
Either randoms who happen to connect locally to your 3DS via StreetPass show up in your plaza, or you connect online to find suggested opponents/friends or enter one's address in personally.
Then you can either choose to visit their castle or battle them from Attack/Defense side. Pretty much everything you set up in the castle area is destroyable so you can't just pen everyone in from the start with a troll layout, but breaking buildings does waste valuable attacks and has no effect on their actual functionality after.
If you beat them, you can take one of their units as an Einherjar or whatever with the same restrictions, you can also get units from visiting but I'm not too familiar with the process, as I've only battled twice thus far.
>>331547829
>>331547861
THIS IS THE ONLY RALLYMAN YOU EVER NEED
RALLY HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!
NEVER GIVE UP
ALWAYS PERSEVERE!
Posting best girl.
>>331545346
>w-wait what? womans are the ones carrying the children right? the men are just for the skills, r-right? dont tell me that...
Children are decided by the men in Fates with the exception of Azura, who has her own ALONG WITH the man's child. They also inherit the last-learned skills of the mother and father.
It's their sperm after all.
>>331546550
I like having two staffers to heal each other, and Sakura has very high MAG when you can promote her.
>>331547971
He is not in Revelations
So it doesn't help in the artist's situation.
It's a shame Revelations and Birthright are so shit.
>>331547707
Yeah, it was the invasion.
Dammit, Saizou's death line is apparently the same as his retreat line.
>Playing on Nohr
>feel good, have fun
>get prison and catch all 3 maids
>get sky knight
>get shrine maiden
>love the ending
>playing Hoshido
>feel terrible in the story
>not as much fun
>get prison
>realize there are maids fucking everywhere
>go insane and catch 20 maids
>have fun
>enjoy game with maid collection
>>331548056
I mean, he at least makes for a good Kana dad with his bullshit magic making Kana a really big dragon.
>>331548274
Forgot pic
Aqua has a fat booty. This is canon.
>>331548274
>Feeling good playing Nohr
Do you just enjoy being a huge beta?
>Maid obsession
Oh, I guess so.
>>331548583
Absolutely m8. Also I really didn't like the Hoshido characters.
>Shura: Heh... So you're the daimyo of Mokushu, eh? We finally meet.
>Kotaro: Who are you? I don't know any generic pirates.
>Shura: I am Shura, of Kohga. And you will pay for destroying my people!
>Kotaro: Aw, so you came here to get revenge? That's precious. I've killed dozens of men like you. Lowly drifters without a home. Don't even bother. Like your pathetic kingdom, you don't stand a chance.
>Shura: Killing you will be no bother at all. In fact, I'm looking forward to it. And one day I will rebuild Kohga and undo the damage you caused!
>Kotaro: HA! That's rich. I killed all your people. Burned your village to the ground. All of your ninja combined weren't enough to stop me. Yet you think you alone can kill me?! HAHAHAHA!
>Shura: We'll see how funny it is when you're begging for mercy. You took everything from me. Before I rebuild, allow me to return the favor.
>Kotaro: Ah, a lovely dream. Let that dream comfort you in your last moments. The last remnant of Kohga ends here!
>Shura: For my friends and family...for my honor and vengeance...FOR KOHGA!*SCHWING* TODAY, YOU DIE!
Since when did this game have boss conversations? This was actually pretty sweet to get out of nowhere like that.
>>331548583
>in the strategy waifu general
>not being a gigantic beta
I bet you aren't even a virgin, faggot.
>>331548832
That's one of the like four.
Saizo has a pretty good convo with Kotaro on the Hoshido route, I believe Ryoma has lines for fightinghis dadin Revelations.
>>331548832
Fucking loved Shura.
>>331548938
I think roughly 12 non-Kamui ones
>>331548832
>tfw killed Shura because I was never gonna use him anyways
Whoops.
Do you fight Kotaro in revelations? I was gonna use him there.
>>331549014
All I know are Saizou and Kaze with Kotaro, Camilla with Hinoka, Felicia with Kilma/Flora, and I'd bet Jakob with Flora.
>>331548938
Saizo has the same conversation with Kotaro on all routes
>2 100% attacks
>they both miss
This game has got to be kidding me.
>>331549135
Oh, really? I never got the Conquest one because I just let him fucking die, and I sorta stalled out on chapter 9 of Revelations.
>>331549198
>2 1% attacks
>not only do they hit but they also trigger vengeance and crit both times
Bullshit is real Hinokafag
>>331548832
>Flora: Jakob…It’s good to see you, though I wish it was under better circumstances
>Jakob: Flora… When I left you at the castle, I never dreamed I’d find you here. Here with your blade raised in anger against she who you swore to protect. I know the difficulty of your situation, but that doesn’t excuse your actions. I’m afraid I have no choice but to settle this matter with force.
>Flora: Jakob… In the b-beginning, I never swore my allegiance. I refused. After all, we were little more than hostages. Taken as children…All to prevent this from happening, to stop the Ice Tribe from rebelling. I often thought of running away, but I never did. I stayed…because of you…
>Joker: Flora…
>Flora: I don’t want or need your pity, Jakob. Let’s finish this!
>tfw they can't support
>>331549120
At least you have his boots.
>>331547919
Takumi is really strong, he crits like a madman most of the tine for ez 3 digits, make sure he doesn't die in lunatic. His bane is RES, so keep him away from mages.
Saizou is also really strong and durable. His fireworks might seem retarded, but they are absolutely chrazy.
HOW DARE YOU LET DIE SMUGFACE. Even on lunatic she gives 0 fucks about enemy attacks and just seals all defences for easy scum cleanup.
Mozu is good but letting her die isn't that much of a problem... if you didn't let also takumi die.
I can't even remember the name of that kid.
If this is your first FE you are doing pretty ok. Ryouma will carry yo ass easily.
Also what are you gonna do when a berserker hits a ridicolously low rate crit on corrin (it will happen, you can't avoid it.)? Just restart chapter sacrificing a random unit instead pretending he sacrificed for the retreat?
Also GET KAZE SUPPORT WITH CORRIN LEVEL A BEFORE CH 15 DON'T ASK JUST DO IT.
>>331549221
You actually get a speedwing if you can keep Saizo alive for that chapter. Could be nice to feed to Nyx if you're trying to raise herlike me.
>>331549198
that's grounds to drop a game
>>331549360
I feel bad for her. She's a permacuck.Married her anyway because she deserves love.
>>331549354
>Lago uses Vengeance twice
>misses
Garon is a faggot for hiring a scrub.
>>331549360
Making Flora Corrinsexual was one of many of IS bad decisions. Then again they made a lot of bad decisions story-wise in Fates.
>>331549120
Azura with Hinoka.
Revelations Camilla with Xander
Azura with her mother x3
Ryoma with his pops
>>331549360
The amount of undeveloped characters is just fucking criminal when there's so many supports that are straight up retarded for characters who already have a shitload to begin with. Marriage and kid units need to fucking go already.
![Aladdin-disneyscreencaps.com-1752[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8WeOaCS.jpg "Aladdin-disneyscreencaps.com-1752[1].jpg")
>>331549497
>Lago
>>331549497
>L
Have you ever watched Aladdin?
>>331549650
Does Shura have one with Yukimura, by any chance?
>>331549360
>Camilla: Hello, Xander...
>Xander: Ha... Camilla... Iago told me you had failed your mission. I never thought you'd turn traitor, too. Are you a still proud Nohrian royal? Or are you just like Avatar?
>Camilla: No, you've got it all wrong. He/she hasn't betrayed us. He's/she's the same gentle Avatar he's/she's always been! Why won't you trust him/her?
>Xander: Trust him/her ? Don't be fool. I won't listen to any more of your lies. You've chosen your side- opposite me. Prepare yourself, Camilla.
>Camilla: Xander , think about what you're doing! is this really how you want things?
So when should I start to change classes? I'm about to start Chapter 10 and still have everyone alive. Never really played other FE long enough to really drive deep into classes. Also I don't really know much about how kids really work.
>>331549779
At level 20
>>331549669
>>331549691
Goddamn it, maybe I'm just blind.
>>331549524
IS managed to patch in an Azura x Camilla support, so it's possible they can add Jakob x Flora.
I doubt it though, since Flora's a bit character that you have to go out of your way to get.
>>331549360
>Flora: Felicia, my foolish sister. Did you really think this rebellion could be solved by a few pretty words?
>Felicia: I'm no fool, Flora! You're the one who wants to fight without hearing us out! That in itself is a betrayal of the pride and morality our tribe holds so dear!
>Flora: You really don't understand, do you? This goes beyond words. Don't you realize, all of our time in that castle was... I mean, it was just...
>Felicia: What are you saying, sister?
>Flora: Forget it, there's no point telling you now, after all that's happened. Let's get on with it. You may be my sister, but I won't go easy on you!
Why is Felicia so dumb?
>>331549779
Reclass whenever you want, 10 is an optimal level, or 15 promoted.
Promote at 20.
>>331549779
Level 20 for combatants, level 10 for staff users.
>>331549739
Murdering Xander DLC when?
This brat deserves to die already.
>>331549824
Can I class change into anything I want or are there classes characters can only go into?
>>331549994
Guess I'll wait a bit then.
>>331550031
Sakura is 13 right now so I guess I'll change her. She has pretty good HP and Def weirdly enough.
>>331549739
>anyone who insults muh daddeh is a traitor!
Goddamn, it was bad enough in Birthright, but Conquest had to sneak it in too.
>>331548245
>enjoying the door mat version
>>331543516
Holy fuck how can someone be this retarded. You are bad at the game, why don't you just admit that instead of saying that one of the best units in all the series sucks? Why don't you finish any of the games in hard mode first and then come back say the same stupid shit again? How is it a master of none when the dancer makes your stronger unit attack twice, or your best healer heal twice? If you brought an extra healer, you are locked to an extra heal (that'll also be worse than your main healer) or locked to an extra attack if you brought an offensive unit (that'll also be weaker than your stronger unit). Dancers evade a ton of shit too and if you manage to have one get attacked twice in a turn then you really suck bad at the game, the fault lies in no one other than you. And not only all of that, but besides giving your unit an extra attack it ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE AGAIN. If you weren't a simple minded retard you'd understand how useful that is. I could go on with this but seriously if you fail this much to grasp the most basic utility that you can derive from it, there's no point on getting on deeper detail, because it'd just simply go over your head and you'd answer with another dumb retort.
>>331549959
90% of the shit that happens in Fire Emblem Fates could've just been solved had people just talked to each other properly and not like retards.
I'm sure you could've even gotten around the Invisible Fight Club bullshit somehow.
>>331549653
that one conversation gives Flora more depth than 90% of the cast, including non-corrinsexuals.
I don't need 50 supports to know Effie is stronk. 1 or 2 good ones make all the difference. Not saying Flora has that but I'm skeptical that more supports = more development in this case.
>>331550225
Fire Emblem Fates was the worst of case of "telling, not showing" I seen in fiction.
>>331549739
I really wanted to have Takumi fight Ryoma in that chapter but Ryoma could kill him twice or some shit.
>>331549497
>Hexing staff
>infinite staff uses and +10 range
>uses his freeze and enfeeble instead
pleb tier boss really
>>331550272
Triggered
how does azura git gud
i only use her for singing because she barely does any damage
Holy SHIT chapter 23 birthright hard is kicking my arse good. I was literally breezing through the game with ease since chapter 17 but now it's really going overdrive. Is the rest of the game like this? Have I've entered the wildest ride of my life?
>>331550287
did you know that flora's signature weapon (like saizo's star or felicia's plate) is the sacrificial knife?
it's a dagger that causes self-harm whenever you use it.
that's some morbid humor
>>331550373
I don't think they converse.
Saizo and Kagero talk to Ryoma though.
>>331550457
And has the shittest defense ever.
>>331550536
You have to get her gud.Master of Arms with Line of Death.
You'll thank me later.
>>331550536
She doesn't.
