For the longest time, I've wondered why the Street Fighting community and the FGC has long downplayed the success of other fighting games, even resorting to unusual means to do so. For Smash Bros, it was the unusual assertion that Smash wasn't a 'real' fighting game for some asinine reason.
However, now we have Pokken, and we have the same group of people desperately trying to downplay how good it is in order to make SFV look better. Not fighting games in general, just SFV. So now, I think I know what the issue is. Street Fighter babies cannot stand the idea of anything overshadowing their beloved franchise, whether it's overall popularity (Smash Bros is a household name... Street Fighter isn't, outside of the tourney scene) competitive depth, or even something as superficial as a single player mode. According to Street Fighter fans, the mere fact that it's branded with the Street Fighter logo makes it a THE best fighting game out there, no matter what.
I fully expect Pokken to have outsold Street Fighter V in a matter of weeks. It's blatantly a better product to the point where you can't even argue against it. Street Fighter is a dead franchise for casuals who only about how much money you can win at tournaments by playing it.
Sure
>tekken dying
>namco had to team up with pokemon to take down their rival
woah...damn...
>>331428853
>I expect this Wii U exclusive first entry to a series to outsell a longrunner series on PC and PS4
I'm convinced the people who are making these threads play neither game and are just in it to shitpost.
You were on the ball until you had a fucking brain aneurysm and suggested a wiiu game might outsell something. Get your fucking head checked you stupid dumbass.
>>331430262
Pokken's going to be a million seller. SFV isn't.
>>331430402
splatoon outsold bloodborne
I don't agree with a lot of what you said, but I do think that - generally speaking - the FGC has a heavy Capcom bias. If it's not a game they've developed, then most of them won't pay attention or just don't care.
>>331430418
I believe the latter claim but with Pokken's shitty roster I'm skeptical of the former.
If it does do well all I can hope for is that some of my less-pipe dream favorites get in.
>>331430402
Splatoon has actually outsold Halo 5.
It does happen, Nintendo just doesn't point it out when it does.
>>331430402
Anon you can hate the Wii U for whatever reason you want, but most of its games are million+ hits.
MK8 is up to something like 5 million now. Compare that to any Xbox or PS4 exclusive.
I agree that SFV fans downplay the success of other fighting games in general, but Pokken isn't going to outsell SFV. Would be a wonderful world if they did.
>>331430683
The Xbox is a dead console
The PS4 has the largest playerbase in the world, it's not outselling V
>>331430801
>game that is bundled with the console outsells something that isn't bundled
>xbone
Kill yourself.
>>331430958
What is master chief collection bundle or any other bone bundles...
Try harder raging fuck
>>331431350
>any bone bundles
You never see those at local gamestores, only online.
Literally get fucked.
>>331431509
Then why is Microsoft constantly cutting prices on the Xbox One? I believe it's cheaper than the Wii U now.
That's not something you do if your making money off of your product.
>>331428853
pretty much how I feel, street fighter babies ruining everything and being salty as fuck the entire time kinda sounds like inferiority complex to me
>ONLY 1 FIGHTING GAME CAN EXIST AT A TIME REEEEEEEEEEE
>>331428853
Street Fighter has always been a shit game. Why do people like it? Is it because of tits, thongs and ass?
I've played very little fighting games in my life but the fighting games that I have legitimately enjoyed in my life was Pokken's demo (since I do not own the game, but that doesn't I didn't enjoy the demo and from the demo alone, I'd legitimately buy the game) and Bloody Roar 2.
I mean, I did enjoy myself on multiple fighting games that I have played, but among those, these two stand out. Maybe it's the freedom that's given to me to move around the arena or maybe it's because their mechanics adjust to me or maybe it's the whole transformation thing, but I really do enjoy each games' mechanics, more than any other fighting games' mechanics.
Which is why I'm kind of sad Bloody Roar didn't get too far with the franchise itself, but shit happens.
>>331434506
nostalgia
>Street Fighter dying
>Nintendo games slowly taking over EVO
>2 Smash games are the most popular
>Now Pokken Tournament is considered a massive success, probably the best fighting game in ages
That's depressing.
>>331434809
Sounds to me that people are coming to their senses.
>>331430548
>Pokken
>16 slot roster
>SFV
>16 slot roster
>B-BUT DLC ADDS MORE, I LOVE DLC
>>331428853
>only 2k viewers on twitch
>success
top kek anything under 10k is a dead game.
>>331429951
>Tekken running its course
>Implying Namco didn't run themselves into a goldmine by joining forces with The Pokemon Company and trying something new for a change
Nigga you wack, that money goes both ways.
It's funny because Pokken is so different from Street Fighter that it seems stupid to compare them.
Try being an SNK fan. Mark of the Wolves is technically one of the best fighting games around, and KOF hasn't been with EVO for years even though XIII brought a big crowd.
I'd hope XIV would get a spot at EVO but most are shouting MUH GRAFIX and are too young to remember Maximum Impact and understand that they're basing their models off of it. At the end of the day we're gonna see a great entry into the KOF line.
>>331430891
Kek
>>331435265
Actually, Nintendo takes measures to ensure that people don't make money off of streaming it on Twitch, which discourages parasites from streaming it.
I still remember how Splatoon not having a lot of twitch streamers 'proved' it bombed.
>>331435816
>defending nintendo's practices on streamers
wow, toddlers are truly pathetic
>>331431509
I work at an electronics store and we have 9 fucking xbone bundles, they don't sell. Plus were sitting on 50+ copies of a ton of games because they don't sell either. Xbone has been crashing and burning.
>>331436184
Calm down, there is still space for boob streamers on other games.
>>331435265
Where does this mentality come from they're games that sell over 4 mill like mk8 but look where it's at on the twitch list
>>331436731
>he thinks "muh sales" is as important as reach
and twitch is important for this. Your "muh 4 million sales" doesn't matter when nobody cares about the game longer than a month at best
https://youtube.com/watch?v=dNkLzDES7Ww
God like music.
>>331437139
Are you really saying that no one cares about Mario Kart 8?
>>331437139
>spend 1 million on a game
>make a profit of 5 million
>"hurr guys it's about outreach, not sales this is a popularity contest"
video games are a business, lets see what dies out faster; your street fighter or pokemon.
>>331437260
indeed, toddler shills on /v/ don't count. The game is by all intents and purposes dead
>>331437420
Uh, are you an investor in nintendo? Why do you hold this business perspective? Are you a consumer or a shill?
>>331437720
Not them, but holy shit. Actually measuring the success of a game by how many viewers it has on twitch is the most retarded thing I've heard. You should actually consider killing yourself along with your illogical mentality.
>>331438103
so according to you league of legends, hearthstone and dota 2 aren't all more successful than splatoon and mario kart 8? go suck iwata's dead dick, toddler
>>331437720
yeah, the game is dead
there isn't that many mk8 /v/ threads anymore, it was a generic racing game that sold well and died relatively fast.
SFV didn't sell well at all, and died even faster.
>are you a consumer or a shill?
both my friend :^) I'm here to spread the joy of high quality games that sell like hotcakes.. and to dissuade people from buying low quality overhyped, dlc ridded games like SFV
>>331438236
That just means those games are more entertaining to watch than to play you retard.
>>331428853
why are there so many pokken threads trying to start shit with SF5 players? Like, what is the point here? I'm going to assume that it's shitposting because trying to compare them gameplay wise is dumb considering how different they are from each other.
Second of all, yeah Pokken sold a lot and I won't say it's a bad game. But the thing about games like Pokken is that the competitive community dies out before the year is over. If Pokken manages to still be considered hot stuff for that long after the EVO boost then I'll be impressed.
>>331428853
But Pokken hasn't even sold 100k copies in the west yet...
>>331428853
I would say street fighter is a house hold name on par with Smash Brothers
>>331438236
So according to you, every first party title from any company that has brought in more money than it's production cost, isn't successful?
Also
>watching lol, hearthstone, and dota
>>331438236
holy shit you are a retard
those games are all incredibly popular because of their universal appeal
and they've made enormous amounts of money. Those games are major fucking outliers, twitch is a good indictation of the popularity of a game, not it's actual profits
>>331438391
Is MK8 really dead? I was actually looking forward to picking it up soon. MKWii still had full 12 person races all the way up until the servers were shut down.
>>331438103
Why are you responding to a pea brained faggot?
>>331438391
>SFV didn't sell well at all, and died even faster.
Where is any nintendo game here?
>>331438236
Is this bait?
>>331438236
they are more successful because they made more profit
at one point pokemon RED was by far the single most popular game on Twitch. It wasn't exactly the top selling game that month.
>/v/ hates division
>/v/ hates SFV
>/v/ is already hating Dark Souls 3 and it isn't out yet
>/v/ loves Pokken
ABSOLUTE, MADMEN.
>>331438642
>first row is pure casual games for babbies
SF confirmed once again game for babbies.
>>331438407
Interesting point, but unless you can provide an objective barometric for what is and isn't more appealing to watch than play, this is moot
>>331438552
>>331438580
>>331438694
Literally
>muh profits
Learn to read, you're completely missing the point
>>331438642
You do realize that those companies dont get money from people watching a stream.
>>331438813
it's called nintengaf for a reason
>>331438642
>>331438884
I'll never understand the people on twitch who watches other people play cards and flip them on other cards. I really can't see how you get enjoyment out of it
>>331438961
Do you know how to read? Do ypu even know what success means?
>>331438583
It's not. You find games almost instantly and there are mk8 threads weekly on /v/
>>331438961
so a videogame company is missing the point when they consider sales the primary measure of success?
anon pls never set up your own business, bankruptcy is a bitch
>>331438813
>Instead of a rehash or a casual game, /v/ enjoys a game that tries to do something ever so different.
Hell, I would love if Tekken played as good as Pokken.
>>331439094
I'll try and help you. Go up the reply chain and read my posts again, perhaps you'll understand what I'm actually talking about. I'll ask again, are you an investor or a customer?
>>331435735
i can't see it being good with 50 characters at launch....
Pokken isn't killing SFV, SFV being a rushed, unfinished piece of shit is killing SFV.
>>331438961
You do know games can be at the bottom or the top of the twitch list at any time right? Yesterday pokken was on top of twitch list it's just a matter of how many streamers there are
Street Fighter 4 BOMBED. Street Fighter 5 did even worse. Not even tits and ass could save that turd. Rest in piss over-rated shit game.
>>331439263
^ this is the actual facts of it.
>>331438961
>objective barometric
What does atmosphere pressure have to do with anything.
>>331430521
Splatoon is not a WiiU. It's a game
>>331435107
You also forgot pokken is a simple fighterfighter, has a pretty awful roster of 16 and is on the Wii U.
Not saying that V is good but pokken really isn't either.
>>331438813
Namco makes better fighters than SFSoul Calibur come back pls
Shitposting threads like this make it seem like Pokken will peter out quickly and its players realize this.
>>331439293
>Street Fighter 4 BOMBED
sorry for this kinda off topic question,but i don't want to create another thread,but how much a game need to be popolar in order to get in the EVO ?
How can 16 pokemon be justified. Fucking seriously.
It is sad how much more of a better and complete experience Pokken is compared to SFV, even the online worked perfectly day one.
>>331439290
that may be true, but why should I care? I'm going to play a game that has an interesting and alive community, not some obscure shit or flavour of the month game. Again, reach > sales, in the long run and short run and all other runs
>>331438642
>SFV is only popular when Tournaments happen
Did you even click on any of those?
>>331439398
Not saying Pokken is great but honestly I don't expect a crazy big roster for the first iteration of the game. I'd rather have less characters but a more balanced and thought out game. However with that said I would really prefer them to fill those 4 missing slots.
>>331439293
Can I get a source on this? Genuinely curious I didnt follow the scene when sf4 came out
>>331439175
No. Let me help since you apparently are mentally disabled.
>suc·cess
>səkˈses
>noun
>the accomplishment of an aim or purpose.
>"the president had some success in restoring confidence"
>synonyms: favorable outcome, successfulness, successful result, triumph
>the attainment of popularity or profit.
And according your post >>331435265 popularity is the only thing you go by.
>>331439564
Okay, where's the mario kart 8 or splatoon tournament?
>>331439398
>Ive only played SFIV
>>331439465
Nigger, if Street Fighter 4 was successful Street Fighter 5 would be on everything including smartphones. Cacpcom wasnt willing to even fund the franchise anymore. R.I.P.
>Street Fighter isn't a house hold name.
Street fighter II was the pac man of its era man
>>331430262
I expect Pokken will drastically outsell Street Fighter V. Street Fighter V Super/Ultra on the other hand will probably net more long-term sales, and vanilla V will piggyback on those.
>>331439573
So you're only point is muh profits? gotcha, still, you've missed the point entirely.
>>331439524
Easy. Go look at the first iteration of pretty much other fighter.
>>331439551
The game just came out its community is alive as alive can get
>>331439515
Not at all really, a company can really just buy their way in if they want to promote a competitive scene with their game (which seemingly Nintendo has already done with Pokken since its on the lineup). There is no set popularity a game needs to have to be at EVO, it just needs to be more popular than the alternatives.
>>331439524
Fighting game first, pokemon game second.
>>331439687
>not saying V is good
If I played or liked V I wouldn't be saying that you fucking idiot. V is shit. It managed to be worse than MKX. But that also doesn't automatically make pokken good. Because its not. Its fine as a game but to take it seriously as a competitive fighter is silly.
Its a shame the wii u is on it's last year of being relevant
>>331439702
Jesus fuck you're dumb as shit.
>>331439263
SFV having decent competition does make it so they can't get away with lazyness by being the only option
>>331439710
>Vanilla V will piggyback on those
Holy shit someone who realizes that any "Super/Ultra" re-releases will simply be the base game with the DLC? It's a miracle
>>331439709
I dont like Street Fighter but you cant deny a fact like that
>>331439710
>Street Fighter V Super/Ultra
Hell no. The fan base is so small that even repeat buyers will help.
>>331439807
>Fighting game first, pokemon game second.
Then why I should buy it? There are far better fighters.
>>331428853
Can we please stop the false flagging Pokken threads? NeoNeoGAF is just going to use it as more fire for their console war bullshit.
>>331439709
and Sonic was the Sonic of its era
look at where its now
>tfw harada had zero interest in pokemon before pokken
>tfw a genre-first in a kids series out-performs an established genre-specific fighter series geared towards competition
>>331439398
>simple fighter
It's obvious who hasn't played the games
>>331428853
OP I'm pretty confident that more people know Street fighter than smash bros. SFII is one of the most popular arcade titles of all time. In fact just Google it right now, it's the third most popular arcade game after space invaders and pac man
>SFV now consistently not in the top 100 played steam games.
Only a couple thousand people are playing SFV on PC worldwide at any given time. It's a good thing matchmaking is cross platform because that version is already dead.
Do we have any PS4 numbers?
>>331439843
>SFV only came about because Sony was willing to fund the game
Tell me again why Capcom couldn't cough up the money from all those amazing SFIV sales
>>331429951
How´s Tekken dying? Tekken 7 coming to consoles, and office ladies playing Tekken 7 in the arcades (they´re too fucking good, what the fuck). Also Tekken 7 in EVO.
Pokken is really pretty good.
It's super accessible for a fighting game, even handholds you through combos.
>>331428853
You DO know that Capcom employs marketing agencies to slander others and defend their product? It's not something new, game companies have been doing it since the 90's. Capcom's overdefensive marketing agents have been shilling here for years, and it works well because they can hide themselves among the normal capdrones. It's fucking pathetic but that's the game industry right now.
I mean, yea it has gotten worse in recent years but not by much. It's just recently that people have woken up to these corporations bullshit.
>>331439881
>Holy shit someone who realizes that any "Super/Ultra" re-releases will simply be the base game with the DLC? It's a miracle
I was almost going to say it'd be suicide for Capcom to put out the updated version of a fighting game as a standalone release, but they already did it with Ultimate Marvel 3 and Super Street Fighter IV so
>inb4 someone has to post the article where Ono says they'll never make a Super or Ultra Street Fighter IV
Is Pokken really a success?
I hope so, that way they will make some DLC. I needs more beef
>>331439747
Why do you focus on popularity so much. Both ASSFAGGOTS and the games you mentioned are both successful. Just that the mobas happen to be more successful but tgat doesnt take away from the others success.
>>331439906
Then go buy them and stop shitposting instead
>>331440214
>You DO know that Capcom employs marketing agencies to slander others and defend their product?
And yet, Shit Fighter 5 still bombed. That sure does tell you something.
>>331440083
Capcom was close to bankruptcy, and would've been insolvent it if weren't for monster hunter selling so well in japan. There's a reason why they've re-released, remastered and ported so many of their games these last years instead of making new ones. SFV was probably a cost they didn't have an appetite for yet
>>331440184
After a while into the campaign AI starts doing combos not in the dojo too, pretty cool that they handhold for a while and then show you what else you can do but kinda make you figure it out.
I'm new to fighting games but this is super accessible but at the same time I see a lot of potential depth. I'm hoping this gets me into other fighting games too.
>>331439807
>Fighting game first
DOA5 has what, 36 characters or something?
Doesn't Tekken have fairly large rosters.
16 pokemon is way to small you will get bored way to fast.
>>331440258
I can see it being a slow burner success, not to much of an initial kickoff but as its popularity spreads it'll get a steady stream of sales
>>331440029
not op, but fairly confident youre an old man who knows not of what he speaks
kids dont even go to arcades on the norm anymore (in america)
smash is definitely the more common/spoken/played
>>331440362
Thats why they've been out in force lately. They're defending their employers product. Capcom made a multi million dollar investment into sf5, of course they're gonna have it defended.
>>331440337
t. pokken shill
follow your own advice
>>331440386
A larger roster isn't necessarily a better one.
>>331440214
>You DO know that Capcom employs marketing agencies to slander others and defend their product?
Does DMC Devil May Cry count as more of a Capcom product or more of a Ninja Theory product?
>>331440386
People are thinking they are going to add 4 more as DLC but assuming the game is successful I am very excited for the sequel with a proper roster
>>331440315
I've already said so like 3 times already
reach is better than sales for me because it gives the game perpetual value. The original post was "hurr twitch doesn't matter because nintendo makes da profeeetz!!", yeah, that's swell for nintendo, but I don't care unless the game lasts. It's this exact reason why I don't care about splatoon and mario kart 8 which was brought up by not myself
>>331429951
Tekken is actually flourishing and since Crapcom shat the bed with Street fighter Tekken will only get more fans.
I'm picking up ky copy of Pokken today because Street fighter is fucking boring and unbalanced shit. Stay mad.
>people saying it will sell less because its on the WiiU
The WiiU has 20 times the attach than the ps4.
The ps4 has the worst attach in mainstream console history.
A game on Wii U will somehow affect game on the PS4 and PC.
>>331440591
That's because there are no other games that what nintendo makes for the wii u. It's nothing to boast about
played some pokken yesterday
game's fun as hell, a lot more fun than any tekken game ive played
although i enjoyed street fighter games pokken is so much more fun than both VI and V for me
keep in mind that i am not a competitive-level player
>>331428853
We don't even we have sale figures yet for Pokken. Stop trying to start shit with other communities because all it going to do is make people less likely to want to start playing Pokken competitively because they have to deal with asshats like you. Then your game will be nothing because there won't be any new people to play with and then the game is slowly going to start dieing.
I haven't seen a single person that plays SFV talk shit about Pokken because they don't care. I don't even think they care if other people don't care for the game. They just want to have fun playing the game at a competitive level. Maybe you should learn that from them.
>>331428853
>Smash Bros is a household name... Street Fighter isn't
>>331440740
You can tell it's doing bad because of all the fucking shill threads. Welcome to the new age lad, instead of commercials we have shitposts on /v/.
>>331440591
>The ps4 has the worst attach in mainstream console history.
Arent people buying PS4s only to play COD and watch blu rays?
>>331440587
hilariously enough splatoon and mario kart 8 have outlasted a vast number of popular twitch games by now
so nice going shooting yourself in the foot there
>>331432259
>My warehouse store is selling Xbones for $290 dollars
>Still dont want it
Boyght one on amazon for 350 and it was fucking awful. Returned it after buyers remorse set in thank god for Amazons return policy
>>331440740
>dont be an asshat, there are NONE of those on the competitive level!
>i havent seen it so it doesnt happen
nigger youre retarded. buttblasted sfv fans have been shitposting in literally every pokken thread
>>331440740
>They just want to have fun
Why did they buy SFV then? lmao
>>331440719
>amazing attach rate is not as good thing
The shit /v/ says. Theres a reason why Splatoon outsold bloodborne, despise both of them being great games and the ps4 having three times the install base.
>>331440518
>say they're better fighting games to play
>tell you to go buy them
>call me a shill
>>331440823
>Street Fighter isn't
I mean....if you're not in an arcade....who cares?
>>331440884
you're pretty desperate now, because none of them are on like the top 50 games even
The first iteration of every Street Fighter game ever is always hot garbage, I fucking told you guys that it'd happen again yet you decided to hope for change anyway
>>331440884
Heh, I just finished doing hours of Mario Kart 8 online, with full 10, 11 and 12 player games. The game is addictive like crack.
>>331440974
>image.jpg
not worth any response but a simple (You)
/v/ will celebrate when scum like you are banned
>>331440258
Seems to be sold out a lot of places. Multiple friends have tried to pick up a copy in my area and failed. That's nebulous proof of course
>lame faggot shitpost thread
Yeah, nah
POST POKKEN MAIN AND SECONDARY/RANK
POST STREET FIGHTER MAIN SECONDARY/RANK
>>331440910
I've been is basically every Pokken thread since I got it Saturday and the only butthurt I saw was from rosterfags.
>>331440951
>It's not fun to me so it isn't fun!
>sfv cant even break half a mil opening sales
B-b-but its more popular than smash!
Holy shit take off the nostalgia glasses. sfv was a flop. havent seen pokken sales but 400k aint hard to beat
>>331440587
So you actually decide what game you are interested in playing not if they are good, but instead on how popular they are on a sute like twitch? You are actually missing out on a lot of good games, but to each their own.
>>331440953
You seem pretty thick so I'll explain it simply
Everyone who bought a wii u bought it for the same reason
Everyone who bought a ps4 bought it for a myriad of different reasons because of different sub-cultures and genre interests
there, stop posting now, retard
>>331441050
hey did you know that every person watching a twitch stream is a person not playing a game?
funny how that works
>>331440854
Yes actually. How much has the ps4 sold now? 40 million? Bloodborne only sold 1 million on a 40 million install base which goes to show that literally no one is using their ps4 for games
Shit roster, shit game.
>>331437259
>Ferrum Stadium
Mah nigga
>>331441175
>main
Just swapped to Mewtwo today
>secondary (former main)
Weavile
>>331440910
Learn some proper grammar before starting some counter argument retard
>>331440854
Pretty much, that why people boast about the ps4 console sale but not its exclusives sales.
>>331441220
PS4 has shit attach rate because half its owners are poor euros who only buy FIFA.
If they bought lots of different games the attach rate would still be good.
>>331441213
its a pokemon related something
the god damn pokemon typing lessons game sold like a million
>>331441175
>Pokken
Blaziken
Luchachu
>Street fighter
Dan (When he is in the roster)
R. Mika in SFV
>>331441242
>is a person not playing a game?
how can you be so absolutely sure about this? You do realize there's a thing called having more monitors, right? Jesus you're dumb, stop posting
I hope Harada removes Akuma from T7 in response to this
his goofy character-specific jumping mechanics look awful as it is + there's no need for them to piggyback off of SF anymore
>Loved Pokken last night
>Was doing excellent online
>Today
>Can't keep fighters away from me
>Everything I do gets trumped by the other person
>Hate Pokken today
Why does everything feel so fucking slow and laggy? It's like if Monster Hunter's devs made a fighting game.
>>331438884
ACTIVATED ALMONDS!??
>>331441220
Yeah, that watch netflix and buy like 1 or 2 games max. Thats such a good thing for developers!
Having a 30m install base means jackshit if they dont buy games.
>>331441138
>Ilostanargument.jpg
>>331440910
Literally where? The only SFV posts I see in Pokken threads are those calling those playing Pokken assholes for going "IT'S GONNA BE THE STREET FIGHTER KILLER. EVERYONE IS GOING TO BUY IT, IT WILL OUTSELL THE GAME AND CAPCOM WILL FALL TO THE MIGHT OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOR NINTENDO"
Like jesus christ calm the fuck down this isn't goddamn Highlander
>>331441248
It's almost as if you buy Nintendo consoles for just Nintendo, and Sony consoles for the huge pool of third party games that don't have overlapping fanbases
>>331440910
It's not SFV fans. It's the diehard SF4 fans who are buttblasted SF4 isn't in EVO anymore. Plus they also shitpost SFV threads.
>>331441323
not necessarily, more games lead to wider spread of sales. No matter how you spin it the software sales are a lot better than the wii u, at 200-300 million in retail at the very least, not counting digital store downloads
>>331441149
Nice. But it sounded too complicated to make it work as a local multiplayer. Maybe people dont know that
>>331440996
I never entered an arcade in my life and I know exactly what SF is
>>331441460
not a fact, you're deluded perception. Stop posting as if it were a fact
>>331441349
>Dan (When he is in the roster)
You are the worst type of person.
>>331441374
Pretty sure Akuma in T7 is partially a field test for TekkenxSF which is supposedly still in development.
>>331440910
This isn't true but alright.
>>331439356
What? Are you retarded? The post he's quoting literally says "a WiiU game".
>>331440440
Oh I didn't know the term household name only referred to fucking toddlers who know jack shit. When SFII was at its peak it was much more relevant than smash at its peak and the people who played it in the arcade... Guess what, their still alive. People who never even played sfII knew of it. I might be down playing the relevance of smash a bit but sfII is absolutely a house hold name
>>331440589
I'm so fucking glad about this. Back to the fucking PS2 glory days of fightan.
>Tekken and Guilty Gear at the helm
>Mortal Kombat is good for the casuals.
>SNK is making games
>Nintendo has their own competitive fighter
>>331441407
I don't have that problem but try being a little more patient. Its easy to get frustrated and then just play worse and worse.
I'd recommend finding people geographically close on the general or something and playing against them, lag might be your issue
>>331441374
Dude chill, it's just one guy and i doubt he will be in tournaments.
>Pokken fags gloating about franchise popularity
>ArcSys fags constantly butting in to shit on SF's artstyle and shill their meme-style as if every game should look like it
>Smash fags don't even need saying
>Tekken and their Superior-Limb-Based-Combat retards
>KoF14_suplexing_SFV.jpg
>Mortal Kombat fags actively encouraging casualization and shitty filler content by gloating about their sales and content
>Killer Instinct fags quickly becoming the new Skullgirls fags
Name ONE fightan fanbase that isn't shitting all over Street Fighter right now
Just ONE fucking fanbase, because if they exist, I wanna shake their hands
>>331441718
Forgot to add
>Street Fighter is where it belongs, in the past.
>>331441217
I'm pretty flexible, but in general when it comes to online games, yes, that's how I make my judgement. Anyone who doesn't is retarded, because you're wasting your time with a dead game or flavor of the month game
>>331441718
what about soul calibur?
>>331441758
Both DoA and Soul Cal.
But you wouldn't want to shake DoA's hand whilst their mid-image dump
>>331441721
I hope so
Whats the recommended supports/cheer thing for Chandelure?
>>331428853
>This thread has this many replies
What a surprise. FGC is a bunch of manchildren that get riled up over the tiniest amount of bait.
>>331441886
Yo, Soul Cali is awesome and needs more love
>>331441886
You may be right about Soul Cal, i never hear them talk trash about other games. Except Tekken because they think TTT2 made SC5 worse.
>>331441942
Ninetales and Lapras help with the zoning a lot.
DIglett should help you get a beam in and charges a lot faster.
No experience with Chandelure, but I also main a zoner
>>331437259
Love the shit out of this theme. No surprise it plays when you get to the end of a league. Would fit perfectly as the theme for a gym leader in a generation.
>>331441758
what's wrong with shitting all over a bad game that promised great things?
>>331441814
>anyone who doesn't play a game by how big the community is, is a retard
>any other game is a bad game
I really don't think you're capable of being saved. You're the cancer that is killing videogames. You lead a very sad existance anon.
>>331442062
THat's because they spend so much time trashing SCIII or V
>>331441220
>Everyone who bought a ps4 bought it for a myriad of different reasons because of different sub-cultures and genre interests
Do you even remotely know what you are talking about?
Literally the only reasons most people got a ps4 was either because they needed a bluray player that could also play CoD or because of Bloodborne (which is why I personally got one). That's exactly why its attach rate is so stupidly low
>>331441758
Skullgirls
>>331441084
>Heh
I can smell the nintentoddler sweat and grease through this post
>>331441580
>but I still care about street fighter
okay
>>331442238
All right post your source on your claim
And again, the attach rate isn't bad, it's at over 5 games per system at least without counting digital (which btw is pretty nonexistent on wii u)
>>331441758
>SF was top dog for years
>Surprised the abundance of fighting games is killing it
>When SFV is completely phoned in
>When there's shitloads of competition
>>331441758
Jojo's
>>331441217
If a multiplayer game doesn't have a competitive scene then its a ded game jim
>>331428853
>Street Fighter babies cannot stand the idea of anything overshadowing their beloved franchise
You're acting like this isn't common knowledge. People have known that since SFIV came out and was worse than 3S but got defended by SF loyalists anyway. They were willing to just bite their lip and suffer through like 4 re-releases of the game to make it passably competitive, and EVO finals still ended up being overly-defensive and boring matches where they threw projectiles at each other and hid in corners or blocked everything and chipped each other to death
not even getting into Ultras
3S was better but it sold like piss. I think that sent a very strong vibe to many devs that most players are idiots and want to be treated like they can barely dress themselves.
>>331441758
Limb based dude was one guy tho. Limb based combat is pretty sweet tho.
>>331430891
Largest console Player base doesn't matter when the fighting community isn't that big regardless. Pokken has the Pokemon fanbase advantage and that number is huge...it is also casual friendly from the get go.
>>331442238
hmmmmmmmmmm
>>331442182
why should I waste my time on an online game with no community of note to speak of? I don't get why you're so obstinate about this, I liked counter strike back in the day, but I'm not gonna still play it when there's like a handful of loyalists still playing it today and when it's not topical
Does nobody really care about 30FPS for local play?
>>331428853
I'm not even going to read your whole post. I like Smash Bros., but even I have to admit that Smash's skill ceiling is nothing compared to games like Tekken, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, SoulCalibur, Guilty Gear, King of Fighters, BlazBlue, Street Fighter IV, or any others I'm forgetting. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and assume that the same can be said of Pokkén Tournament, even though I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy it, too. That said, the fighting game community, or at least the Street Fighter community, is shit, and I have absolutely no doubt that they're going to try and shit on Pokkén. But fuck your post. Street Fighter V is shit, but as much as I hate Crapcom, as wellas SF's fanbase, before SFV, SF was a solid game.
>>331442531
You need a small dose of cyanide in your life, that's the only thing that will save you from how stupid and delusional you are.
>>331441758
MahvelBut it's a shit game just like SFV
>>331442608
What point are you trying to make? ZombiU was a terrible game.
>>331442953
It's not what I circled, lad
It's what I didn't
>>331442814
You can insult me but that's breath you could've wasted proving me wrong instead.
>>331442169
>>331442440
None of the cross-fanbase shitposting has anything to do with SFV being "bad" and you know it
They're just taking advantage of the current situation to let out all the animosity they've held for years
>>331442493
Well I play 3rd Strike on fightcade and it has a moderate amount of people. Does that mean the game is dead? No. Just because it doesn't have cancerous twitch retards all over it doesn't mean it's a dead game. I'd actually argue it would. E better to have a smaller community since there will be less shitters and retards and more people who are passionate about rhe game. I seriously don't get how you could stand any of the moba communities. They are so fucking cancerous. Unless of course you like that kind of stuff.
>>331441637
you can literally pinpoint where his brain got fried over how reasonable that statement was
>After Pokken's success
What, did all 10 people who own a Wii U ended up buying a copy of Pokken?
>>331428853
All memes aside, from your actual experiences, is SFV fun?
Like, do you play it and enjoy it? If so, can you call it a bad game? What are you comparing it to in terms of being more fun?
I'm curious. From the footage I've seen from the game I feel like anyone who's good at Street Fighter or Mortal Kombat etc would be able to stomp the fuck out of most people playing Pokken. Is this true?
>>331428853
Is this a new type of pasta?
Whoa, man. What's the ingredients?
>>331443104
3rd Strike is dead scrub, no one plays it anymore but a select few.
>>331443191
Honestly nobody can say how well it sold, from what I am to hear many people have had trouble finding it because its been sold out everywhere, but then again Nintendo is notorious for under-stocking.
>>331443191
Even one of those 10 would be a miracle. There isn't a single non-Nintendo published game that has broken a million globally. This may do it thanks to the Pokemon brand, we'll see.
>>331442991
>>331442531
When Street Fighter 4 came out, people raged and cried about how shit it was and how much better Street Fighter 3 was (it wasn't). Mind you I don't like Street Fighter in the first place, but the biggest standout is
>They were willing to just bite their lip and suffer through like 4 re-releases of the game to make it passably competitive
Let's ignore that Street Fighter 3 was an utter disaster across two iterations, there's a reason why people talk about 3S and 3S alone. Even then 3S isn't exactly a stellar game.
>EVO finals still ended up being overly-defensive and boring matches where they threw projectiles at each other and hid in corners or blocked everything and chipped each other to death
This statement further drives home the point that you have no understanding about the game or its flow whatsoever and are just another hollow skull that sings the praises of a game he did not play nor understand. Fuck you.
>>331442692
I want you to tell me something. To you, what is the appeal of a large community that a smaller community dsn't have?
>>331430396
That's /v/ in a nutshell.
>>331443427
More retards. You're trying to communicate with one.
>>331441358
>destroying your own logic with your own fucking logic
You fucking moron, YOU need to provide the proof of people watching AND playing said game (or another) while watching a stream. We already have the answer to WATCH theyre watching, So unless proven otherwise they are ONLY watching.
>>331443338
How does that make it a bad game? I get to play with people who are actually passionate about the game and are decent at the game as well. Why would I wanr it to be bigger when it doesn't positively impact my enjoyment of the game?
>>331428853
tl;drfaggot
>>331428853
DO NOT REPLY TO FALSE FLAGGING SHITPOSTS
DO NOT REPLY TO FALSE FLAGGING SHITPOSTS
PLEASE /v/ STOP REPLYING TO FALSE FLAGGING SHITPOSTS
>>331442038
It's too bad Bamco will probably never stop shitting on it in favor of Tekken, especially after SCV.
>>331443672
/v/ is dead
there's only neo/v/ my friend
>>331442062
Nah, Bamco mad SCV worse by redirecting resources and shit toward Tekken. I like SC more than Tekken, but both are still cool.
>just want some comfy Pokken threads
>everyone has to shit on SFV
Why. I just want to talk about the game.
WHOS YOUR MAIN
WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE STAGE
WHO DO YOU HATE FIGHTING
I main R. Pika, Magicarp festival is my favorite stage, and fucking garchomps are the worst.
>>331428853
>Street Fighter is a dead franchise for casuals
That is some piss weak b8, m8.
>>331443887
Someone already tried but it's useless. Seems like people prefer to have arguments than talking about both games.
>>331442205
>implying SCIII wasn't great and that SCIV was to SCIII what Banjo-Tooie was to Banjo-Kazooie
>>331443649
Didn't say anything about it being a bad game, I played 3s competitively and enjoyed it. Don't go into moving goalposts now. Pokken will simply not be as big as Smash or Street Fighter.
>>331444043
SCIII was fucking garbage and so was IV, fuck off.
>>331442697
Wait what? PT is 30FPS?
>>331443759
>Pokken is eventually going to be revealed as only a modest success
>neo/v/ will parade around for hours about NintendoGAF getting BTFO because they fell for stupid fucking bait
>>331444185
Local multiplayer is 30. Everything else is 60. I think that's a typical thing for the Wii U.
>>331443887
>implying op isnt shitting on both and trying to start a shitstorm.
>>331443887
>WHOS YOUR MAIN
Best girl Chandelure!
>WHAT'S YOUR FAVORITE STAGE
Magikarp Festival because of that music.
>WHO DO YOU HATE FIGHTING
Garchomp. That attack where he digs underground and is invincible until he comes up is bullshit.
>>331444169
Please elaborate.
>>331443887
Just go to /vg/
/v/ is filled with redditors and shitposters nowadays.
>>331444323
What the fuck? Why? Does it do some weird gimmicky shit with the gamepad in local MP?
>>331444559
It was a buggy, poorly made piece of crap and introduced CAS which is a tumor and something I wish never happened. The single player modes sucked too. It was a poorly made game through and through.
>>331439962
I don't agree with his opinion on the roster, but it is very simple compared to most fighters dude. Simple doesn't equal bad, it just means simple.
>>331444650
It's because the 2nd player plays on the gamepad.
If you really need to play 60 FPS locally, there's LAN cables you can buy.
I want toimpregnateBraixen'suterus!
>>331444815
yiff in hell furfag
