https://www.twitch.tv/capcomfighters
Its time for the finals
Time for absolutely no Giefs again
That nigga needs to block
>that Ryu hoodie
God damn that last match
meek ruse and le awkward sexual innuendo kid of autism
shouldn't these two just stick to unimportant casting like team tournies?
>>331422506
>>>/urmum/
GIEF TIME NIGGAS
Does the stream piss itself at source for anyone else or just me?
>>331424784
Nah, same here, I've been using "High" quality instead
>>331424842
Glad to hear, guess we're stuck with it like this then. Yesterday was just horrible when the hotel internet fucked them over. They must still be using 4G like they said yesterday.
this shit is so fucking boring
i could watch people play SF4 for hours on end, even early on when the only footage came from japanese arcades or Arcade Infinity. but for some reason watching SFV is putting me to sleep.
why is this?
>>331422076
2 F.A.N.G's in the top 128
>>331424953
People are so obsessed with it playing "like it supposed to" that capcom has been systematically stamping out anything that doesn't play according to the meta they prescribed. So now you've got a game where very little surprises happen.
We went from the SF game with the most variety of playstyles to the game with the least variety.
>>331424925
>Yesterday was just horrible when the hotel internet fucked them over.
They need that furry to come back, they fixed it by letting him touch them
>>331425124
SFV sounds like its the Sm4sh of SF games
>>331425124
>tfw fags always cried or quit when I picked Abel
SFfags are the fucking worse
>>331424953
Every match is 100% scrambles, when somebody gets opened up the average decent player will need all the reactions and all the faith in his combos in the whole world to confirm that shit to something flashy and/or damaging. So to the majority of players that can't do that, the matches become a series of out-poking each other and silly options on wakeup like jabs because people still have difficulty landing their meaties. Quick rising out of everything plays a big role in this, you can't really do meaties consistently when quick rise is there.
SF4 while much more combo/vortex/setup heavy had safe pressure options for almost every player so the defending side always had to pull through a serious onslaught and that in itself was impressive. Even zoning was impressive over there. 5 has no zoning after they neutered fireball game in general.
At least that's how I see it.
>>331425558
>5 has no zoning after they neutered fireball game in general.
But that's wrong.
>>331425660
Glad you agree on everything else though. Tell me why it isn't btw.
>>331425558
Fang and Dhalsim are still great at zoning m8, Plus their is mid range fighters like Birdie.
>>331425761
FANG is less zoning and more make time to set up the real shit. He's more like Rachel from blazblue than a real zoner.
And shit, have you seen any good dhalsims? zoning is like 30% of what gets him his wins.
>>331425918
>Fang is less zoning
Have you ever fought a good FANG? He wants to stay at max range and have poison tick you down and poke from behide the poison. Rushdown set ups won't work past silver once the player know what fang is going to do it isn't hard to react.
>>331425761
Dhalsim has okay zoning at best. That character is pretty much a rushdown/mixup character now.
>>331425761
That really doesn't tell me why it isn't though. The fireballs in this game are much more unsafe in comparison. Seeing Bonchan and people at his level tearing people up with them doesn't automatically make them any safer. They're still a tool in the game but nerfed generally.
Also Sim is a rusher now if the people I see him playing with are any indication.
>>331425761
>dhalsim
He's as zoning focused as he was in marvel 2.
>>331425761
Neither FANG or Sim are zoners
>>331426101
Top fang in the world plays him as a zoner....
>>331425983
>He wants to stay at max range and have poison tick you down and poke from behide the poison.
lolno, what are you bronze?
>>331426143
Isn't that the guy that got kicked to bronze from DQing until he got up there?
>>331426143
lolno, watch any high level fang, its all rushdown setups and frametraps,
>>331426143
World_Combo? Ragequitter.
>mfw watching that top Mika ebar|cIAw to learn something
>>331425983
His buttons are pretty bad and poison doesnt do nearly enough damage to play a zoning game.
>>331426221
I dont know who you are talking about I am talking about a Russian named Fidoskin.
>>331426269
>World_Combo
>Ever
kek
MARCH PATCH WHEN
>>331425983
>max range
With what? What does he have to push the opponent all the way to max screen? His horizontal fireball with no hitbox? His arching fireballs that will only hit you if you're at full screen already?
>>331426312
>Russian named Fidoskin.
>>331426221
>>331426269
He got right back up there like 3 days later without ragequitting.
>>331426337
You have been told 100 fucking times already you retard.
>>331426386
I saw him up there again and watched a replay. Didn't saw anything amazing from him.
>>331426441
Nigga I haven't been on 4chan for two weeks and none of the gaymen websites I browse have any articles about it.
How many chuns in the top 128? I saw one okay one yesterday night that was still double checking notes on his phone.
Is Xrd top 8 gonna be on soon? Is that on Spooky's stream?
>every new game a bunch of whiny cunts come out and say how the latest game is actually the worst in the series and has the least variety
Do you ever get tired of being faggots?
>>331426386
>without ragequitting.
So do you fags find SSF2T boring and shitty too?
So we can all agree Birdie is the most hype character?
Mika fags need not respond.
>>331426337
Alex trailer today, patch and Alex next friday.
Capcom are really retarded about marketing. They should've put up a trailer in the beggining of the month showing all the stuff they're putting in the game on this patch with a little Alex at the end, release his trailer this friday with a build with Alex available on a booth at Final Round, and then release him next week.
It is like they want the game to fail.
I'm watching the Tekken exhibition because it looks pretty af
>>331426685
Even ST had more than just stilted footsies.
>Skisonic and Magus on commentary
it's like they WANT people to stop watching
>>331426718
Laura is much more hype desu senpai.
ARTURO DICK RIDERS BTFO
SANCHEZ ON SUICIDE WATCH
SIM PLAYERS BTFO
EAST COAST BTFO
>Showing Arts despair live on stream
Pretty funny but dick move.
>Sonic faggotry
>Furry is somehow one of the best players in the world
>>331426840
Regardless of your opinion on the game itself, Iron Galaxy with KI '13 has got to be the standard-bearer for how fighting game community outreach should be.
>here are literally all of the patch notes
>fuck it, we're also doing a stream reading all the patch notes with fans and super-hardcore players freaking the fuck out for miniscule stuff like frame timings
>here's the trailer for the new character, showing all the cool stuff about the character and their stage
>oh and here's a taste of the next character
>>331427178
>arturo wanted to hide his sim tech in order to try and win Final Round
>Gets bodied nice and early
good, fuck people who dont want to share tech.
NOT LIKE THIS
>>331427329
Is he the perfectlegend of SF?
>poison cloud slide crossup
>fireballs used to make pressure in oki easier
Boy look at all this zoning fang is doing.
wtf i thought sonic fox was only good in dead fighters
>RayRay, a tourmament player doesn't even try to zone with FANG and keeps pressuring with buttons, does every projectile from mid-close range for mixups and tries to open up opponent.
Yeah, zoning. Inb4
>But RayRay only plays MVC3!
Why can this furfag retard play FANG and win while I can't ? I use exactly the same combos and setups yet I get my shit fucked up
This is making me unecessarily jealous
This furry needs to stop.
>>331427416
SonicFox is playing FANG, m8.
>>331427402
You're right, he's playing SFV
That was some great FANG you never really see him ever
And that's how you play FANG, ladies and gentlemen.
Rushdown.
>>331427529
epic
The fuck, RayRay, you stuck with Sentinel on Mahvel, I expected more from you instead of going with the top tier.
>>331427526
Oh shit, you're right my bad. An EVO champion of another fighter even. Point still stands.
>>331427492
That furfag retard is a much better player than you, and possibly better than you'll ever be.
>>331427492
Because he literally plays fighting games for a living and you're just some guy who plays video games occasionally?
>Not a single Birdie so far
feels bad, man
>>331427581
and he switched from Ryu to Doom in marvel. he's not some low-tier hero or something.
Damn guys, lookit all that Ryu zoning.
>>331427657
LPN and KnifeLife are playing Birdie. Don't know if they already played.
>>331426840
PS Store updates on tuesdays, leading some people to suspect that's when it'd be
I'd love to see a trailer tonight with 'available tuesday' at the end of it
>>331427757
Karin has so many tools to go through "zoning". Heck everyone does.
Karin is OP.
Ricki's got some boobs
>>331427909
Hence "nerfed". Or everything else is "buffed". Whatever tickles your fancy. Fireballs are neutered. Raw fireballs on block were safe in SF4, guess what happens here if you're close enough.
WAAAAAHHHH IT DOESN'T PLAY EXACTLY LIKE THE GAME I WANT SO ITS BAD.
>>331427492
>Furfag and transfag are top tier SF players
Fucking hell
>>331427768
LPN did earlier, switched to Nash after losing first match, think he lost the set as well.
>>331422076
Let me know in two years, when the game is worth watching. Is there any stream for the SFIV tournament?
http://strawpoll.me/7134866
Kare-in faggots can go to hell.
>>331428028
>Raw fireballs on block were safe in SF4
Yeah. Fuck that bullshit.
Oh hey, its time for Filifaggot Champ
i hope he gets randomed out with dps
i want to see the salt
>>331428098
I can't wait to see some ZONING from dhalsim.
Brackets?
>>331428097
Glad you finally agree they're neutered though. Liking or not liking it is an entirely different conversation.
>>331428037
Are people not allowed to criticize a game that they think is shitty?
Just because it's Street Fighter doesn't mean it's immune from criticism.
>>331427865
It won't be a store update though. Alex will be available on the in-game shop. And I think Capcom Unity said the patch will drop on a friday. I don't have any proof to backup that claim, since I saw it on shoryuken.
>>331427721
I know, but he stuck with Sent, a mid-high tier, and played beautifuly with him.
>>331428159
Doesn't look like rushdown to me
Has dieminion been playing V?
>>331428096
>Blonde Jap
>Lives in a fancy 19th century home with 19th century furniture and dresses in 19th century fashion
Why the fuck does japan always do this?
>>331428283
Everyone except one anon here is being ironic.
>>331428159
The moment he couldn't maintain range and zone he lost.
Rate my gf
>>331428179
Wait there are actually people that enjoy watching "zoning"? When capcom announced SFV was going to be Esports, 99% of the people knew that the zoning we saw in SFIV was the first thing that was going to go.
>>331428362
They literally hate themselves
>>331428212
Most the criticism against it is "it isn't SF4" rather than anything else.
>Some retard says Fang and Sim are zoners
>Immediately after top Fang and Sim players on stream rushing shit down
BTFO
T
F
O
>B-But muh random nobody on ranked
So the tierwhoring/braindead selecting started? Fuck, FChimp, I was rooting for you just to see some Dhalsim play now that Art is gone.
>>331428425
quality slag
>>331428482
>Fchamp sim
>Rushing shit down
Did we watch the same fight>
I assume all Rashid players already got eliminated?
FCHIMP GOING NASH AND GETTING BODIED. O I AM LAFFIN.
>>331428438
If that makes it easier for you to digest, sure.
THE CITY OF FILIPINO CHAMP
>>331428362
With SF this sort of topic doesn't really stick since most if not all the characters are parodies, expies, caricatures and references so there's little internal logic to their appearance and lifestyle.
>>331428482
>Fchimp sim
>Rush down
What?
>>331428626
No that's the reality. All the complaints are that "this doesn't play like the SF I like" rather than legitimate complaints about the game having technical flaws.
>>331428529
Changing characters for a better matchup have been a thing since forever.
FREELIPINO CHAMP
>>331428685
You mean like all the complaints that the range of options is very narrow?
>>331428425
he looks like a dog humping his owner's leg
>>331428438
Well that's possibly because SF4 really was a well-designed game in comparison to SFV. It was also probably a lot of people on /v/'s first serious fighting game and is therefore their biggest reference point for the genre.
>>331428757
Do you not remember how barebones SF4 was at launch?
>west cost vs east cost
>four wude
Fuck you skiisonic
>>331428757
People forget how broken and unbalance vanilla was. SF4 got how many years of patching and characters before it became the game it is today?
>>331428670
Well this shit isn't exclusive to SF though.
>>331428852
Broken as it was, it still had variety to it.
>>331428953
>Vanilla SF4
>Variety
M8
>K-Brad doing work
POST CUMMY YOU FAGS. I NEED ME SOME 4K BOOTY
>mfw they didn't unlocked the colors for tournaments
See, capcom? Fuck survival.
>>331429007
Well for one, it had more than 1 playstyle.
>>331429025
>tfw slow at drawing
Gotta get good and fast
>>331429079
>Needing more then base colors for a tournament
Fuck off faggot
>>331428953
>Broken as it was, it still had variety to it.
>Bonchan eliminated
>>331429025
pshhh
>>331429169
I'm imagining a training montage where no matter what you're practicing, there is always a picture of cammy's ass for you to look at and inspire you.
>>331428953
The rose tinted goggles sure got created fast. Usually this kind of delusion takes decades. If you want to pretend SFV won't be improved (just like SF4 was) then I have nothing more to say.
>>331428085
>Let me know in two years, when the game is worth watching. Is there any stream for the SFIV tournament?
Its time to move on from your fraudulent trash game grandpa
>>331429206
>meanwhile SF4 had fur costumes on tournaments
>>331429025
>Faggots kept saying K Brad was going to be exposed in SFV
>He plays better then ever
Kek you faggots are never right about anything.
>>331428621
POST MOAR THICK KARIN
>>331429339
That doesn't make it ok anon
Who has the best chance of winning?
I was really hoping for Alucard but now I'm not so sure.
HADOKEN
HADOKEN
HADOKEN
HADOKEN
HADOKEN
>>331429428
My waifu Ricki Ortiz gonna take it all
>>331429348
Well to be fair his ass was bitching non-stop about SFV for the first 3 weeks of it being out. I'm glad he is sticking around.Now the question remains will smug get exposed.
>>331429348
If anything I expected him to excel at it. His reactions and conversions in SF4 allowed him to go as far as top16-8 an almost all events with a neutered Ultra Cammy. All the better for me, always good to see Cammy up there.
This taquito guy is pretty good
>>331429519
Worse then the furfag
Aw shit, Abuello Valle
>>331429519
>My waifu Ricki Ortiz
not even a qt
>>331429580
Horrible tranny voice.
Rekt
>>331429540
If you like CA with goo and mike they have a whole SFV episode on youtube of them fighting smug.
>>331429572
Should've picked Rashido.
>>331429572
>twitch chat is full of atpRtsd
Jesus fuck, Aris must be making bank.
T H I C K
>implying you wouldn't fuck this glorious boy pussy if you had the chance
I bet he has people at every tournament wanting a go at his fine ass.
>>331429698
>>331429540
EA not CA my bad.
>>331429237
Sonicfox is Shokio's alter ego?
>>331429764
looks like a dude with a shit load of makeup on
>Perfect
>>331429236
He lost to Fuudo, so it's not all that crazy.
Furfag VS Flowchart Ken
hoo boy
>>331429764
>he/his
>>331429774
I understood what you meant, I saw a lot of medoicre play on both sides. I don't think Karin can carry him in the same way dudley did.
Either way too early to call.
America free once again!
>>331429760
What's with all the guys holding onto women like they'll run away otherwise?
Pls Juan get rid of the furfag
is there a bracket anywhere for this?
>FANG's up down fireball
Why would you not do this anytime you wanted to set anything up? There's literally nothing they can do about it without at least trading.
>>331430086
type !bracket in the stream chat
>have to watch Sonic Fox win SF tourneys in addition to MK tourneys now
>FANG
WTF IS THIS DAMAGE
>Fang
>Zoner
>>331430117
>There's literally nothing they can do about it without at least trading.
That trade can be in their favor.
EX reversals and some of the command grabs in the game will go right through.
Some weird moves like EX tatsu can be timed to get through it, or at the very least deal more damage than you'll take.
too many sonics
>>331430172
He doesnt do all that much damage, he just severly outplayed that other guy, julio just did lots of dumb shit like whiffing ex srk 3x times
guys what are tips for getting close to fang he always zones me out full screen
is this lil nigga the one who came dressed full furry yesterday? he has a fucking tail on right now
>>331430167
>don't care about MK
>can enjoy seeing a Fang putting up work
Don't like rooting for a furfag though
>>331430167
Sonic Fox doesn't stand a chance against the Japs
>>331430330
Both you and the FANG are bad, you need to get better
>>331430339
Nah, the full fur suit guy is someone else, but sonic fox was coaching him
>>331430368
On the other hand it would be great to see them lose against something that seems like a complete enigma to them. He's black and a furry.
Holy shit, that round was over in like 10 fucking seconds
finally
>>331430297
Even if the opponent wins in damage, you still end with them poisoned.
THE FURRY IS KILL
is lauras overhead really that good cause its fucking destroying this furfag
I forgot Wolfkrone even existed, when's Viper?
YO ps4
Top
Fucking
Lel
Oh shit
Let's get this shit started
L M A O
OOOOOOOOOHHHHHHH
RAGEQUIT
WHAT ARE YOU STANDING UP FOR
Wolfkrone hasn't changed at all
Salty Pause option select ayyyyyyyyyyyy
>>331430532
Damage and positioning...depending. Something like lp or dp shoryu will put ryu at a worse position after eating the fireball high up.
There is a decent variety of moves throughout the case that have armor/horizontal movement to make it something you have to think a bit about using.
I NEVER SEEN THE RAMEN ON THE HEAD THING
NOW THIS SHIT
THIS IS MORE INTENSE THAN THE SUPERBOWL
Damn, that chubby white guy looked pissed
MY BABY HAS THIS IN THE BAG. EVEN THE CONSOLE AGREES.
I love how the crowd went silent
explain yourselves fgcfags
furfag getting chewed out by fatty
That dude was fucking pissed and yelling at Sonic Fox
Drama incoming
Why is the game not in tournament mode?
share button was a mistake
>>331430864
Seeing a black furry just confuses me.
>>331430864
awful
Hilarious
>>331430954
Because most don't know that the game even has that.
>>331428852
I don't mean that vanilla SF4 was balanced, vanilla Sagat is worse than anything in SFV in terms of unfairness
I mean that the two games and the way they both tried to solve certain issues are very different, with SF4 having the smarter solutions. In SF4 zoning was a real threat, but you could still jump over and punish a poorly spaced fireball or focus attack through them to close the gap without risking too much. In SFV, zoning is essentially non-existent. Characters still have fireballs, but every single character has very obvious and very strong ways around/through them (Nash's/Bison's v-skill, Chun slide, Necalli berserker slash thing) alongside all of the usual ways to punish a poorly spaced fireball.
It's in part because Capcom is catering to an audience that can't STAND getting zoned out and is very vocal about how much they hate having to deal with fireballs and the like. And it's that same pandering that's informed most of the decisions in SFV, resulting in a much more straight-forward and boring game as a result. People didn't like having to learn about different kinds of oki or setplay so they added quick-rise in an attempt to get rid of setplay altogether (although all that did was just give only a few characters actual oki and the rest of the cast gets nothing). People didn't like the strict combo timing of SF4 so Capcom added a 3-frame buffer and now you can literally mash out your combos with 100% accuracy no matter what, effectively removing the need for execution entirely.
Those are only a few of the things which are disappointing about SFV, and they're mostly problems on a fundamental level with how they chose to design the game. You can make the argument that SF4 had plenty wrong with it too and I might agree with you, but in terms of how the two games were created and how they ended up, I'm sure you can understand why SFV is disappointing by comparison.
I think this was clearly SonicFox's fault. The other dude just looks pissed and SonicFox is frantically trying to defend himself
G a m e p a d b o y z
>>331431035
Called it
>>331431025
post cfn
>>331431043
ima long time d pad player, but this ps4 dpad sucks balls. fucking indent in the middle makes execution as chun li way harder than it should be
Didn't Mike Z say that you can do a software-side lock on the share and PS buttons?
In any case, pad players should take the 30 minutes to open your damn controller and cut that button.
>>331430864
The furry is pretty good at fighting games and his friend is ok.
He was fun to watch at evo 2015. Ran a train in skullgirls.
Was fox in winners or losers?
Finally
FURFAG BTFO
How does your thumb go down so far to hit the PSN button?
I didn't even consider the balance implications of the stage extending into the Chinese restaurant.
>>331431219
Apparently the touchpad will do it too.
What have happened ?
>>331431219
He hit the share button
>>331431219
he didn't hit the ps button he hit the share button. He's still a fucking retard but it's next to the D pad.
no honor amongst furfags
yiff in fucking hell
>>331431258
Ski said that, never trust ski
>>331431219
he was shook af
>>331431175
winners
>>331431154
eat shit, casual.
>>331431235
The stage boundaries change when you break the doors.
>>331431025
1 frames links didn't exist prior to SF4
Zoning was removed for esports purposes imo.
>>331431235
There are none. The casters are retarded. The stage doesn't expand.
Stop at Dairy Queen and pick these fuzzy niggas up some DQ,
>>331431235
>>331431360
Haven't tested it but I believe the boundaries just change, the stage doesn't get bigger.
>>331431346
Nice dodge anonydiaper
>>331431450
The stage gets longer.
>>331431450
Remember when it was implied that stage breaking and interactables would be a common thing in SFV?
The fuck happened?
>>331431235
It doesn't, the bus moves
Once again Skisonic is a fucking moron. He doesn't know anything about any game
>>331431390
>1 frames links didn't exist prior to SF4
>want to watch FANG players at FR and steal tech
>only good one is SonicFux
>he still uses stHK instead of coward crouch to apply pressure
>he loses his losers set to a pause anyways
Umm
>>331431539
>interactables would be a common thing in SFV?
I'm so fucking glad they aren't I hate that shit in fighting games
>>331431539
they rushed release for CPT
>>331431360
>>331431414
>>331431450
>>331431560
Ah, fair enough then.
>>331431539
Capcum ran out of time from the corporate deadline. Its pretty obvious from stage designs that at the very least forgotten waterfall was supposed to have extensions as well. You can see the inside of the temple clearly modeled on P2 side
Why do they make it so hard to play local multiplayer?
no chin
>>331431390
VSav has 1-frame links, homeboy. Bishimon can't cancel his buttons if you chain them so his bnb is short > forward. 1 framer.
>>331431595
That was winners wasn't it?
>>331431576
3S didn't have 1 frames links m8