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Illidan has mocked the Scourge long enough. It's time we
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Illidan has mocked the Scourge long enough. It's time we put the fear of death back in him.
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BLUE WIZARD IS LOW ON HEALTH
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Look, brothers! The traitor king!
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>>331318218
Glad you could bake it Uther
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>That feel when the Illidan novel for Legion reveals that everything we did in TBC at the Black Temple actually only served to help the Legion
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>>331319310

What feel is that?
Even in TBC we knew that Illidan has turned against KJ and the legion, so killing him and defeating the illidari was obviously helping the legion.
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I feel...edgy
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>>331319310
Why did we stop Illidan?
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I will attract them with my human call...
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>>331319664
For loot n muh evil looks.
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>>331319646
oh shit instead of cgi hollywood garbage
why not a disney animated Warcraft movie ?
I NEED TO PITCH THIS IDEA
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>>331319432
Yeah but in TBC, Illidan was also going around and fucking up shit elsewhere too, so he was a threat. He wasn't solely attacking the Legion.

Some things the Illidan novel reveal:
>He destroyed the the Dreadlord homeworld. The novel says this was the worst defeat of the Legion in recent memory.
>The Naaru were originally going to work with him, but chose us (wrongly) instead
>He had plans to siege Argus with his demon hunters and army to kill Kil'jaeden and Archimonde then blow the planet too, but was only stopped by the players at the Black Temple
>Akama was wrong all along
>Illidan had nothing to do with attacking Shattrath and that was Kael'thas alone, who went rogue shortly after TFT apparently
>When we killed Illidan, he was essentially on his death bed in terms of power. As full power, he's actually probably as powerful as Kil'jaeden or Archimonde.
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Prince Arthas, I'm silver hand
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>>331320515

That's a big hammer
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>>331320457
lol that sounds incredibly lame
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WC3 Jaina best Jaina
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>tfw https://youtu.be/45wyxUPt_2I?t=131
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>>331319646
This is idiotic. Why would KT be dismissive of magic? Also, to compare KT to Gaston is ludicrous - he was a fucking fedora tipper Nice Guy in the Arthas novel. Surely, putting Arthas there as Gaston would be better, considering how arrogant he was.
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>>331320760
she killed her dad for that big orc penis
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>>331320457
>As full power, he's actually probably as powerful as Kil'jaeden or Archimonde.
hah
No.
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Daelin Proudmoore n Garithos were right.
Tell me why Humans can't accept that.
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>>331320760
Maiev is still best girl.
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>>331320515
uhh you don't get to bring knights
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>>331320515
PURGING THIS CITY

WITH NO SURVIVORS
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>>331321828
Reminder that Maiev raped illidan for ten thouysand years
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>>331320997
Calm your man-tits, autismo.
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reminder that the lich king is dead and warcraft died with him
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>>331320457
On one hand, it's kinda lamely constructed.

On the other hand...let's say that both Horde and Alliance screwed it up along with others.
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>>331322087
The rape of male prisoners is a topic not talked often in our society. They may be criminals, but still have rights!
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>>331322087
>you will never be chained up indefinitely while your powerful Night Elf mistress rides you until you pass out
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>>331322502
Maiev is probably into some serious sadism as well
she wears a robe lined with fucking blades
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>>331320457
I don't like this kind of "it wasn't at all like you thought it was" kind of storytelling.
Come to think of it, Blizzard's storytelling has kind of gone down the drain, especially considering what happened to Starcraft 2.
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>>331322813
This is called "retcon"

Illidan was clearly supposed to be evil and full powered and dead by the time we were through with him.

Now they are retconning it so "well he was weak and sort of evil but mostly misunderstood also you fucked everything up lol"

If Illidan was actually doing all this, he would've either found a way to prevent you from reaching him or just fucking shouted in Shattrath
>Hey faggots if you want to come fight me and kill me that's fine
>Just wait a few weeks whilst I teleport to Argus and permanently kill Kiljaeden
>I might die in the process, saving you the trouble
>But if I survive, then you can come fight me
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>>331320457
>So why didn't he tell us this like in TFT, worked for Furion?
>Why didn't one of the scryers say "Oh yeah Illidan is actually fighting the good fight with his demon hunters, he just blew up a demon world"?
>What was Vashj's part in this master plan, drain the world's water with no survivors?
>How could he plot against Kil'jaeden when the first time he conquered black temple Kil'jaeden just casually appeared on his face?
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>>331321814
lel, nope.
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>>331319664
Have you seen his weapons? Best thing an edge lord could have.
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>>331320457
>Illidan as strong as big A or big K

No.
NO.
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>>331320457
>He destroyed the the Dreadlord homeworld.

thats stupid as fuck

>When we killed Illidan, he was essentially on his death bed in terms of power.
why?
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>People have been saying Illidan has done nothing wrong since Warcraft 3
>We go to kill him for no real explained reason in BC despite everyone saying he's doing nothing wrong
>What a tweest, he did nothing wrong
BRAVO BLIZZARD
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>>331320515
The shipping plan i filed with the crown list me, prince arthas here, but only one of you!

first one to talk gets to stay on my watercraft.

tell me about the lich king! why does he wear the helmet?
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>>331324006
HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>331319664
He escaped from that prison that one time.
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>>331323554
>Mana addicted, troll half breeds
>Master race
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>>331323736
>why?
He got kicked in the dick by Arthas in front of his entire army and followers
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>>331321828
princess luna :3
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>>331324103
Lok´tar!
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>>331324589
He also kicked Illidan's entire army in their dicks
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>that feel when no one ever remembers the nerubians

maximum bro tier race
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>>331323452
This thing triggers me in these WoW threads. I thought most anons on /v/ was on the same page. when it came to, how badly Illidan was written in TBC and the strange reason for him being the last boss in Outland. Atleast when you compare him to WC3.

>>331323626
Well, he was gifted a lot of power from Sargeras himself and then he did consume one of the strongest artifacts known in Azeroth. (aka Skull of Gul'Dan)
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>>331324884
Anub'Arak is pretty awesome but there's nothing else about them that's truly noteworthy, to be honest.
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>>331320457
>our dumb as fuck corruption plot was actually really smart and it was just you who was dumb all along
Metzen, no

Just no

You have to write better than fanfic level alternative dimension/timelord/retcon bullshit to pull this kind of shit writing off
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>>331324929
He never really seemed to be doing anything other than minding his own Business recovering from being kicked in the dick by Arthas.
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>>331318218
DK Arthas is best Arthas.

>You dare enter my lair? I am Sapphiron, ancient servant of Malygos the Spellweaver. Explain yourselves.
>Sorry we don't have time to chat, great wyrm. We've come to murder you and steal whatever artifacts you've hoarded over the centuries.

>Are you still upset that I stole Jaina from you, Kael?
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>>331320997
Honestly this is the best vidya-related Gaston edit I've found.
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>>331324884
Were they bro tier before or after they were made into undead slaves for the Lich King?

The Anub'Arak we see in WC3 and after is not the "real" one, just acting to the bidding of the Lich King. Hell before he died he was at war with the undead forces.
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>implying any other retcon is as bad as what they did to make Draenei playable
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>>331324929
I'm not saying he was written well or that TBC made sense. I'm just saying they retconned TBC with this book.
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>>331324884
Strangely this>>331319189 is the most memorable quote in the whole WC3 for me
>Who? Me??
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>tfw not prepared for this level of bullshit
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>>331324381
>shit flinging monkeys
>Master Race
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>>331320997
Kael is dismissive of Dalaran magic, not all magic.

Gaston was a fedora tipper Nice Guy too, the only thing that makes it appear like he's not is that he's in shape.

Arthas fits Beast because he's a disgraced royal who's correct decisions turned him into a monster.

There are no good guys in Disney movies.
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>>331325339
At least we got God tier porn out of that.
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>>331320457

When I think about it, why DID we assault Black Temple? Why do we give a fuck about these aliens in Outland? And he was barely even fighting them, just holding the one useless wasteland zone and training demon hunters. Illidan was never hiding the fact that he was fighting the Burning Legion.
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>>331325681
I counter that with we also got so much retarded "hurr female Draenei have ten-foot horse dicks totally canon why doesn't Blizzard show this reality?!" idiocy that the Sonic fanbase looks normal.
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>>331321828
Fucking this.
My nigga.
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>>331325681
Yeah that was nice at least, but warcraft lore was unrecoverable after that.
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>>331325931
>hurr female Draenei have ten-foot horse dicks totally canon
I never got this meme
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>>331325556
The fact that everyone kept yelling "Traitor" at Arthas as he came across them made it even more amusing, he was surprised by a fucking nerubian that he sees for the first time in his life knowing the fact too. I also miss Anub'Arak, they didn't get him fucking right at all in Heroes of the Storm even though the VA was actually present in the game. I preferred his matter of fact strictly business attitude to whatever retcon bullshit in their retarded fanfiction they call "books" blizturds came up with. Not to mention that Anub'Arak betrayed nerubians willingly, as evidenced by that single conversation.
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>>331326169
Degenerate fags
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>>331325721
Because Maiev couldn't handle Illidan being free. She's such a bitch really.
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>>331325721
He pissed off Maiev and the players in WoW are basically bounty hunters
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>>331326289
Yeah but how did it start? Why horse dicks and not normal dicks or knots or dragon dicks or something? And why on the females and not the males?
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>>331325206
Well, he did create some kind of pool that made Demon obey him (Warlock Green fire quest line ) and the Skull of Gul'Dan started to whisper him. So he didn't really just sit around and do jack shit.

>>331325351
It's really not a retconned that /v/ tries to make it out to be.

According to Nobbel that got an early copy of the novel. The book revolvs around the time of Illidans escape with Tyranda from the Warden prison to the Black tempel where he is defeated.

It's more about filling the gaps and "fleshing" out him as a character that we should have gotten in TBC.
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>>331325313
>Hell before he died he was at war with the undead forces.

Thousands of years before the events of Warcraft 3...

"Glad you could make it, Spider-Uther"
"Watch your tone with me, hatchling, you may be my future King, but I'm still your superior as a webspinner."
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>>331326316
She's faithful to her man and don't want to share him with other, that's all. Some find this kind of obsession cute.
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>>331326207
>Not to mention that Anub'Arak betrayed nerubians willingly, as evidenced by that single conversation.
Nigga by the time Anub Arak meets Arthas he is already undead and under the will of the Lich King.
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>>331325931
>It's another "futa is the worst thing ever" episode
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>>331325313
That's a retcon too. We know jack shit about nerubians other than the fact that they hate religion in all forms because of "the old gods" and that they fought a war against the Scourge and lost, which resulted in nerubian technology and architecture being incorporated into whatever fuckery Ner'Zhul performed because it was just that good. The ziggurats, obelisks, the floating citadels - all of it is nerubian tech + human magic.
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Why are both Nelf Campaigns so shitty?
Delaying Archi is the only mission I actually remember.
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>>331326642
Same as Arthas, who did it willingly. There is no evidence to support that Anub'Arak or his personality is somehow suppressed. No more than that of Arthas. It's a shit retcon made by incompetent writers that couldn't make up a convincing storyline that would explain why would Anub'Arak betray his race willingly or take part in the events that could have led him the same way Arthas went.
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>>331326774
>That's a retcon too
>they fought a war against the Scourge and lost
What?
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>>331327007
its like pottery
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>>331326849
Nah, the waking the druids missions were good
And the play as Illidan mission
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>>331327008
Disregard that, I suck cocks. Only the Anub'Arak part is a retcon as far as I can figure it.
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>>331326849
I remember the stealth mission as Mirana, delivering Illidan, and the ones where Illidan angrily go gets the skull of Gul'Dan before angrily killing that demon then is cast away from the night elves because Furion got triggered by his bat wings
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>that mission in Maiev's campaign after you escape the tomb
>blink to a secret area, destroy a gate
>infernal falls from the sky
>faction name is Kil'jaedan's Seekers
dat 4shadowin
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>>331326391
Hooves
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>>331327007
>There is no evidence to support that Anub'Arak or his personality is somehow suppressed

Right in the game. It's one of the dialogues between arthas and anub'arak, arthas ask so do you x the lich king instead of your own? (x is like serve, submit to, betrayed your own for the LK, I can't recall)

and Anub' Arak replies
>x implies choice
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>>331326849
They were great, what the fuck are you talking about? Though FTs campaign is the weaker one of them.

Vanillas orc campaign was the only boring one.
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>>331327092
>that fulbog that straight up admits he thought you would abandon them
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>>331327007
>nerubians can't wear the lich king's swag because they're spider people, so he needed to find a humanoid to make into his bitch
wow that was so hard to come up with.
blizzard should hire me as metzen's replacement.
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>>331327409
>orcs will NEVER EVER get ogres again
Literally one job for FT and they gave us another shaman
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>>331327368
I actually don't remember that, thanks anon. Ought to revisit the game.
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>>331326672
Tell me exactly why we should all love dicks on chicks. What's the appeal of the male sex organ on a woman? And don't say "It's not gay to love dcks on chicks", the dick is the definition of what male a male a male and if you like dicks you like males which means you're at the very least bisexual.
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I'm blind, not death.
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>>331327628
Ya.
Anub while bro-ish, is bitter about it.
I think it shows in one of his wow encounters too -which is a rare case of wow not fucking wc3 lore- when the players kill him he goes
>free at last
or something
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>still no WC4

Uh blizzard?
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>>331327870
>wanting WC made by actiblizz

Uh anon?
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>>331327702
We had this discussion a million times. You are right, he's a fag. Now please stop.
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S-sorry.
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>>331327969
shit, good point
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>>331325681
you mean GOAT tier haha because they got hooves, get it? haha
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>>331325721
Because loot
WoW is now a meta commentary on video games
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>>331328194
I can already picture what it would look like.

>Preorder the game to receive an epic item BOOMhammer that would crush your foes!
>no expansion or wholesome content updates - every mission released and sold separately
>either no mod support and constant online at all or the modkit being "delayed" until the "expansion" is released that is a shitshow hastily cobbled together
>humans are actually evil and it's focused on Thrall and his band of rejects
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>>331327702
>why am I forced to like a fetish
you're not, but if you will be whining about not liking a fetish and porn not centered around your tastes you come out as a bigger homo
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Official Campaign Tier list
W3 HU>W3 UD>W3 NE>W3 ORC
FT UD>FT ORC>FT HU>FT NE

FT UD>W3 HU>W3 UD>FT ORC>FT HU>FT NE>W3 NE>W3 ORC
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>>331327409
>Vanillas orc campaign was the only boring one.
>that one level where you have to collect lumber
fuck me, I hated that

I did like playing with the Fel-empowered orcs through!
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>>331328447
He's more looking for the mental gymnastics involved in >dicks are not gay.

probably so he can fap to it
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>>331328816
>tfw you researched all the shaman tech beforehand
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>>331328424
Come on anon, they are not Ubisoft
It would more likely be
>preorder wc4 and get a hearthstone cardback and a wow mount
>Story is something something corruption
>every custom map belongs to blizzard
>the mapmaker is completely useless
>we want the esports and twitch crows
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>>331328776
W3 nelves campaign is better than FTs
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>>331328424
>humans are actually evil and it's focused on Thrall and his band of rejects
>being an alliance shill

Neck yourself
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>>331328927
You forgot
>To bring you the most compelling and innovate story in Warcraft Franchise history, the story of Warcraft 4 will take place across 5 separate campaign bundles!
>The first campaign 'Irrelevant McGuffin' will start the world famous Knights of the Silver Hand staring everyone's favorite, The Guard Captain in a new and exciting adventure!
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>>331329130
>green niggers invade a land murdering and butchering everyone and doing the same thing to the planet the came from, culminating in them blowing it up
>humans band together even though some of them actually betrayed them like the fucking Perenolde family to give dindus passage
>win and instead of executing them all right there on the spot when they all fall asleep thanks to the demon crack wearing off they actually scoop them up, put them in camps and keep them fed and clothed and more important alive
>lelele neck yourself

How about you start with yourself, subhuman apologist?
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>>331327007
I overhead a co-worker defend this, but I can't remember what it was exactly the dude said. Probably because it was bullshit.

>>331328123
I remember you
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What ever happened to Strange Acquaintances?
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>>331320457

That's pretty lame
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When are the Darkspear going to leave the horde and form a new troll empire with the night elves?
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>>331330034
Never. Their glory days are in the past, they got wrecked by the sundering, then by Hakkar and then by murdering their own gods and having their culture essentially destroyed and left to rot.
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>>331321828
>you will never be raped by a yandere Warden for 10k years, and see her birth your rape babies, only to have them killed off by Tyrande
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>>331327715
He says deaf anon.
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>>331330234
But muh Vol'jin
The trolls will rise again
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>>331320457
>>When we killed Illidan, he was essentially on his death bed in terms of power. As full power, he's actually probably as powerful as Kil'jaeden or Archimonde

You're either a lying illidan lover or blizzard really are total shit (more than usual)
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>>331330335
That's the joke.
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>wc4 never
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>>331324103
Add Kossak to this.

Metzen simply nods at every idea of his while being too busy snorting coke.
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>>331325351
>I'm not saying he was written well or that TBC made sense. I'm just saying they retconned TBC with this book.
Its not really a retcon though. TBC was done before blizzard decided they wanted to do good storytelling ni WoW. Before it was just, Character + Encounter = cool. WoTLK changed everything because they got the little in game cutscenes going and decided to push story telling a little harder than they had.
So now they're bringing it all back into line because TBC was basically: Yknow what'd be cool, outland and fighting illidan!
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>>331319310
>being this much into this shit
wew lassie
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>>331319257
Watch your tone boy, you may be the waiter but Im still your superior as a chef.
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>>331330737
>TBC was done before blizzard decided they wanted to do good storytelling ni WoW
They got really fucking lazy, and MMO's just ain't on the same field in storytelling as RTS games

Their current 'good storytelling' is pretending the players don't exist and just writing a book where 'Thrall, x faction, x group and a bunch of adventurers defeated x/took care of x' and pretending your contribution was important. Riveting immersion you can just feel yourself becoming part of the backdrop as Thrall/NPC finishes the final boss
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>Sylvanas will never go away

Who is the Sylvanasfag on Blizzard? There's no way all the shit about her would be allowed otherwise.
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>>331329734
She started making gay night elf porn instead.
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>>331331951
It's Cocaine Chris's daughter
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>>331331951
>autists whining about sylvanas will never go away
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>>331330434
>Vol'jin
buddy..
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reminder that WC4 is soon
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Is it worth it to play all the Warcraft games, or should I just play 3?
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>>331331986
gayyyy
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So, are there any characters who act like normal people and get married and have kids, or are they all living a weird sexless life like most anime and people here do?
Thrall's was extremely forced and shitty and Jaina has a barren womb, but are there any others?
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>>331318218
Fear.
The only thing Death got coming for them against Destruction.
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>>331332845
Just play Wc3 and the expansion. There is really no need to play the older ones when they aren't really canon and gameplay wise a lot worse compared to Wc3
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>>331332845
Skip the first, it's horribly outdated. Try to play the second, but don't feel bad if you can't enjoy such an old game anymore. Maybe watch the story on youtube or read some wiki if you want the story.

Warcraft 3 aged like wine in comparison and is still fun.
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>>331320457
>>When we killed Illidan, he was essentially on his death bed in terms of power. As full power, he's actually probably as powerful as Kil'jaeden or Archimonde.

lmao fuck off metzen
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>>331326472
kek we need a full on nerubian edit for The Purge, some literatefag get on this ASAP
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SPEAK FOOL
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>>331320706
For you.
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>>331319189
Don't worry Senpai Arthas.
They are talking about me.
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>>331332723
xd
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>>331327309
Really? First time I've heard of this and I've played WC3 forever. Care to find a link or something that showcases this?
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What is this? What are you doing, my son?
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>>331329734
she finished that one. Strange acquaintances 2 got canned, she closed down her site, and stopped drawing except the occasional gay shit,
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>>331334174
>dat crown fall
>dem whispers in UC
It was our fault. we could have stopped this, but we all carried out the deed with our own hands
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>>331325339
what'd they do?
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>>331320457
That's among the most obnoxious and nonsensical retcons I've ever seen.
AND THEY PUT IT IN A FUCKING NOVEL
IT'S LIKE THE FUCKING EMERALD DREAM ALL OVER AGAIN
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>>331334038
Chapter 4
You can blink to the place from the first Naga Excavator
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>>331321828
>not Sylvanas
kek
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>>331334712
Oh shit son, I actually remember this now that you posted it, just didn't know it was named Kil'Jaeden's Seekers. Thanks a lot
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>>331334453
That's Uther's and Jaina's faults for not going with Arthas and trying to act as the voices of reason to him.

Also I'm betting that a century later, Alliance historians will actually say that Arthas was right about Stratholme and that if the purge was not enacted, then Lordaeron would've had an even more severe undead problem from the start.
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>>331332845
There's a decent remake for WC3 of the first one that tries to bring together the first game and the plot they later wrote. At least initially you're playing this nasty piece of orc working for Gul'dan. I can find it for you if you want, don't remember the name of it. I found it alright.

There's another remake that does it like the first. Exactly like the first.
DOWN TO ONLY BEING ABLE TO SELECT 4 UNITS AT ONCE
AND IT IS FUCKING TERRIBLE
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>>331330502
I get it

It's not funny

but I get it
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>>331332845
Look up 1 and 2 cinematics and the lore and events within those two and then play Warcraft 3 (RoC first, TFT second). Maybe there is some short novel or comics book out now that covers the first two but I don't really think you miss out on skipping them, its only important to know what the previous events were.

Warcraft 3 is a timeless masterpiece and you are definitively missing out on not playing it if you like Warcraft in general. It really stands out for a game that is 14 years old and still plays and looks so well.

Also, thanks to the rising player numbers in China, Blizzard has started patching the game again and there is a chance of it becoming a relevant esports game again.
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>>331324381
>Mana addicted

Its like we're really in TBC again
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>>331332845
Warcraft1 doesn't have much lore and it's pretty clunky.
Warcraft 2 is pretty okay control-wise (pretty similar to Broodwar, still pretty intensive mechanically), the plot is still humans vs orcs but a ton of plot-relevant characters that get mentioned in WC3/WoW appear.

I'd recomment Warcraft2, is a good RTs game and the campaign is fun, but don't expect to see many similarities between the lore you know from WC3 onwards except names and factions.
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>>331333457
But it's not that too far fetched. Illidan did get a power boost in the War of the Ancient by Sargeras . At the same time he was a really gifted as a mage and was supposed to be a special snoflake night elf because MUH AMBER EYES

>"Illidan was born with amber eyes at the time, this was regarded by the elves as a sign of a great destiny"

Later he consumes the Skull of Gul'Dan that have been part of the lore for a long ass time and been seen as a really powerful artifact.

>>331334708
How is it a retcon ???
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>>331327715
Darkness called… But I was on the phone, so I missed him. I tried to *69-Darkness, but his machine picked up. I yelled "Pick up the phone, Darkness!," but he ignored me. Darkness must have been screening his calls.
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>>331335147
hmu senpai

>>331335179
The rumor mill has it that they may be adding them within the battle net launcher with some updates.
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>>331325721
Because Illidan's demons stormed through the Black Portal first and began trying to fuck shit up.
So we went and fucked his shit up instead.
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>>331335434
Who the hell is "Darkness" anyway
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>>331335094
>implying they'd be able to say that after Arthas became the Lich King
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>>331335403
That implies that Arthas is as powerful as Kil'Jaeden/Archimonde, because he soundly kicked the shit out of Illidan.
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>>331335597
Daily reminded that Doomhammer did nothing wrong :^)
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>>331335403
Of course it's fucking far-fetched and goddamn retarded.

If Illidan with the skull of gul'dan+eye of sargeras was as powerful as kil'jaeden/archimonde, how the fuck did you manage to capture him in the TFT NE campaign?
Why did he act like a bitch when Kil'jaeden found him in The Black Citadel (when he had no way of being summoned into that world in the first place)?

Everything we've seen until now puts Illidan far below Archimonde and Kil'jaeden in powerlevel, this is fucking retarded and it's goddamn awful pandering.
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>>331335597
They won't hide that he was the Lich King, but it will be grudgingly acknowledged.
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>>331335557
>Illidan's demons

Weren't the ones in hellfire just legion demons? IIRC the portal quests are there because they want to summon more of the legion into the world?
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>>331335597
>>331335849
Also Alliance historians will say that Jaina and Uther leaving Arthas was one of the factors that made him become the Lich King, further cementing their fault.
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>>331335887
Yes, the ones in Hellfire Ridge were just leftovers. However, the launch event for BC was his own army invading through the portal
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So, uh, I never played anything but WC3, were the first two as good/worth playing? I never see anyone quoting them so I just kind of didn't think much about it.
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>>331336052
>people are still assblasted about the Woltk event
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>>331335951
Yes, and they will acknowledge that Lother was killed in a fair duel with Doomhammer.
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>>331332845
Don't pay attention to WC1 and 2. It's basically Orcs are evil and want to destroy Humans so war happens.

WC3 started the dindu nuffins epidemic so those games barely matter by now.
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>>331336124
WC2 is definitely enjoyable unless you're too casual for old RTS games.
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https://youtu.be/RmLglw0wmlk

>will never play this or other maps again
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>>331336124
WC1 and 2 have aged far more than 3/TFT.
They aren't bad for their time and they are functional, they're just not that memorable, and it doesn't help that pretty much all lore events in them got retconed one way or another.
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>>331336124
WC1 was meh, WC2 was pretty good but it's outdated now.
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>>331318218
Jesus fuck christ I love Arthas. No homo.

Glad you could make it, UTHER.
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>>331335483
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/1-coming-horde-80430/
I think this is it. Part one, don't remember how far it goes
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>>331336362
>>331336361
>>331336330
OK, thanks anons. Might try 2 out later then if I have the time.
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>>331336238
Actually nobody knows how Uncle Lothar really died.

Some did say that he was indeed backstabbed by Orgrim. In reality nobody knows how it really was.
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In case something like WC4 happens, would you like to have orcs going back to be demon-worshipping, undead summoning barbarians or do you want them to be noble warriors with shamans and spirits and shit?
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>>331336124
Wc1 is not really good nor important

Wc2 is very aged by today's standard, use an old narration system but is well written, has a kickass music, but the maps are meh.

The story can be enjoyable.

>>331336629
>falling for the old horde apologists propaganda
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>>331336667
why not both
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>>331324103
>satan of games.jpg
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>>331336504
>Arthas' VA will never do the voice again because Blizzard tried to Jew him

Why though?
Arthas' voice is one of the high points of WC3. it makes no sense to try screwing him over
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>>331336629
Of course you know.
Lothar dies in WC2, and not in some mission briefing, you see how his unit gets murdered by a bunch of orcs/ogres while you can't do shit because you're too far away.
Lothar was ambushed and murdered, Doomhammer wasn't even here (he didn't had an unit in WC2).

This is why you fuckers should all play WC2.
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when is the wc3 patch?
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>>331336712
>Wc1 is not really good
fair opinion
>nor important
It's the most important RTS ever made you double nigger
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>>331336667
Both are tropes who can be either good or bad. I just want the epicness and good writing of WC3.

>>331336783
And also for Bill Roper's voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbSWPB0tMSg
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Press F to pay respects.
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>>331336880
He was talking lore-wise I guess.
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>>331336712
Yes, yes, we are all homo for the Horde.

>>331336783
I'm kinda ashamed because I never got to finish WarCraft 2.
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>>331336783
Retconed.
Now Lothar died in an epicâ„¢ duel against Doomhammer that lasted for days.
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>>331336775
you mean like with sylvanas' va
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>>331336916
>good writing of WC3.
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>>331336880
>The most important RTS ever made
That would be Dune, fag.
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>>331336916
>that glorious ham of the mission brief voice
also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TknF4UODXCc
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>>331337005
The Warcraft that mattered finished with WC3.
When they decided to turn a great RTS series into a shitty MMO every respectable person stopped caring.
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>>331336954
>all those hours spent in jurrasic park
>all those friends I murdered inches from the escape
>all those long weekend nights filled with racial slurs over ventrillo
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>>331336880
For the story I meant sempai

>>331336954
Why ?

>>331336984
I cheated my way through it but I was 9 at the time

>>331337050
But it's true anon. Yes, there are obvious tropes, but the dialogues are good, the story is entertaining and it has a good pacing/story telling.
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>tfw this campaign
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>>331337050
Not that anon, but compared with what we have with WoW and other games that lately Blizzard does, WCIII's writting is far superior.

>>331337271
Well, I think I'll need to dust out my copy of the game and finish it then.
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>>331336954
>How to be Black
WC3 really had the best custom maps
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>>331330950
> Acting like a fag towards someone who enjoys something
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Ugh.. I hate these running gags..
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>>331337378
I thought this is what the custom games would be like when I finally got online. I was kinda right.
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>>331337378
Actually pretty enjoyable.
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>>331325647
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>>331337378
Pretty fun. Shitty ending
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>>331337378
How did you get Chen?
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DRESSED TO KILL, BLEH!

>tfw no Warden plate in WoW
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>>331337790
Not my screenshot Iunno lol
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>>331337665
>Proodmore apologists
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>>331335796
>I don't know the lore the comment

The eye of sargeras was not something Illidan was able to draw power from, it was the tool to destroy the frozen throne. But Maeiv interfered and was able to destroy it.

And the reason why Illidan was afraid of Kil'jaeden and Archimonde was because Illidan didn't have any kind of army if they would attack TBT. He had a bunch of addicted elfs and a few Nagas with him when he traveled to outland.
He later grouped up with Akamas ragtag team of broken dreanis. Enslaved a pitlord and fed Orcs the fel blood. Got that pool that was able to make the demons obey him. This was after the events when he failed he started to panic and build a huge army to defend himself.

The reason why Illidan didn't outright attack Malfurion was because it was his own brother. But I wouldn't be suprise if Kael'thas wasn't there to mention about Tyranda before Maeivs wish to execute him on spot. Illidan would have broken free from the roots and been able to defend himself.

Illidan is not stupid. Why would he oppose Kil'jaeden when Outland has plenty of demons that are part of the Burning legion?

And as I said before. Sargeras himself gifted Illidan some of his own power.And he was able to kill a Dreadlord without breaking a sweat.
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>>331323554
The High Elves have failed to flourish on their own for thousands of years, and are bailed out of all their problems by someone else. They are also a bunch of dirty addicts who are easily controlled by dark forces and caused most of the worlds problems to begin with.
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>>331337790
What, people missed him?
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>>331337790
Wander on the top of the first map, do a secondary quest and get rolling

Then complain about the Pandas in WoW
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>>331337379
>WCIII's writting is far superior.
I think it's just the story platform. A good story in MMO format, just ain't that easy in comparison, and the writing flaws fucking shine

>>331337790
He's somewhere a bit north in the first map, do his quest and he joins you for a brewsky
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>>331319310
It's sort of a sad story, right now, thanks to the green fire quests we've learned Illidan was hard at work trying to keep his promises.

He was trying to recreate a well of eternity out of souls and pure emotion for the Blood Elves to use, as he promised them power and a cure for their addiction. The energy was blue as well. If you notice a lot of the demons in the Black Temple use a blue flame, especially during the green fire quest. This is important because the way Fel energy and Arcane are represented by Green and Purple respectively. It was a whole new way to feed their addiction to magic, and as it turns out, a lot of demons are just creatures who had their home planets devoid of magic. They become slaves to the legion for because of this, they feed off of the Fel magic they produce.

Becoming Illidari is a the simular to being a refugee, a blood elf who wasn't welcomed in the Allaince, a Naga that isn't really welcomed anywhere. I wonder if Lady Vash had a falling out with Azararha and the Old Gods, and that's why the Naga heard Illidan's summon. The Broken Draeni who at the time had no allies or friends to think of, their own people disgusted by them, and finally demons who were able to escape the Legion, and join Illidan who had promise everyone freedom. Illidan as far as we know is just someone who really wanted to make his brother proud and help his friends.
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>>331337929
Can your blood atone for genocide, orc? Your Horde killed countless innocents with its rampage across Stormwind and Lordaeron. Do you really think you can just sweep all that away and cast aside your guilt so easily? No, your kind will never change, and I will never stop fighting you.
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>>331337929
He was proven to be right.
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>>331337378

do you still have to download the levels?
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>>331336954
notd was the fucking best
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>>331335218
They're feeding on the Sunwell again.
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>>331325339

>that texture stretching on the boobs
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>>331337930
>And he was able to kill a Dreadlord without breaking a sweat
Never killed Tichondrius, did you?
Also Archimonde was an unstoppable rape machine who could destroy your entire city by himself while Illidan was a bitch boy that got captured by Maiev.
No way were they equal in power.
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>>331320997
>taking meme images seriously
thats some industrial retard strength autism
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>>331337930
>I'm a rabid fanboy that can't stop sucking Metzen's green dick the comment

It's fucking retarded no matter how you spin it.
There's no way for a group of ragtag humans and night elves to stop a being of the power of Archimonde/Kil'jaeden.
The campaign that came before had you sacrificing the immortality of an entire race and the tree of the world just to expel Archimonde out of the world.

He was just a little bittch that got stomped by anyone that mattered, the only thing he did was killing Tichondrius and he was nobody compared to the big shots of the Legion.

It's not consistent, is garbage writing that just panders to the Ilidanfags that never grow past the age of 15.
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>>331338110
>>331338146
>your kind will never change

But, we was chamans and shit
Proodmore acted like Thrall was responsible for the acts of corrupted orcs, that's stupid
And he gets his men killed
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>>331338110
Ironically, Proudmoore has been proven right with the events of WoW, more often than not. The orcs and the Horde really are warmongers, except for the few hippies.
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>>331338110
>REMEMBER THE 6 GORRILION
Fuck off Jewmore, you're just mad we're not stupid enough to pay you "reparations".
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>>331338586
That shit becomes a lot less convincing when the Horde Chimps out the moment Thrall takes his eye off them
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>>331337829
Forget the plate.

WHERE ARE MY ANGRY, MOON WORSHIPING, DRUIDIC, SHAPESHIFTING, SHADOWMELTING, PURPLISH-SKINNED ELVEN BARBARIANS!?

They were so awesome until WoW butchered them.

>>331337896
Darn.

>>331337970
I did.

>>331338030
>>331338042
OK, thanks.

Also to >>331338042
Yer right. But If WoW had more decent writing behind it, then people wouldn't leave the game.

>>331338110
To be fair about the Admiral, he did have a point.

On the other hand he wasn't around when the Burning Legion was descending.

If he appeared when the Legion's invasion was a go, then he would've at least saw that the Orcs tried to change.

On the other hand WoW did show that he was right...kinda.
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>>331338598
It's all Garrosh's and Varian's fault
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>you will never be prince kael'thas and wake up to find Vashj coiled around you sleeping soundly

;_;
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>>331338608
THE HORDE ARE GOOD BOYS THAT DINDU NUFFIN
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>Gul'dans plan was to use his home world as a base of operations and create portals to unknown worlds then sent wave after wave of orcs into them to conquer an die in honorable battle.

Lets be real, this is one rad ass Valhalla ass plan if you remove the demons and world destruction elements
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>>331338863
OY VEY IT'S ANOTHER STORMWIND
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>>331338761
Garrosh hardly represent all of the Horde.
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>>331328321
heh
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>>331337829
Why aren't nelves so fucking metal anymore?

I mean look at them. Even the women.
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>>331338990
Early Garrosh represented the ideal horde. Strong ass warrior mother fuckers but they still retained the sense of orcish honor

Then blizz completely reworked his character and made him a saturday morning cartoon villain
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>>331338881
>We got our ass kicked in one world, let's find one that's weaker than us so we can feel cool!
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>>331338110
There's no such thing as "your horde" chum
People are individuals, even if they're a member of a group. You can't blame someone for an act they didn't carry out themselves.
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>>331338859
The mental image after reading your post makes this heartwarming and deserving.

Considering the shit Kael went through, I wish people went in time to save the Prince from his fate.
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>>331338859
this picture makes me so hard

the look in her eye, you just KNOW they banged

Kael'thas Sunstrider is known to be THE most hung guy in Silvermoon, possibly one of the biggest in Azeroth. his cock has been described as "like a greater healing potion", with gargantual thickness that would rival Arthas Menethil and Malfurion Stormrage. im estimating his size to be at least 8.5" bone pressed, with OVER 7" of girth. he would have absolutely destroyed Vashj's pussy.

they would have spent hours and hours on foreplay, getting herself wet enough just so she can take it. i can just imagine her begging for it, with Kael barely able to force it past the knob, and Vashj moaning and squirming, demanding him to force it in deeper. she would have orgasm'd within seconds of taking the entire length, being filled and stretched right up to her cervix.. the orgasm would have been powerful, with her vaginal muscles clamping down on Kael's throbbing monstrosity, her whole body quivering in euphoria..

i bet she still masturbates to the memory of it
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>>331336875
patch A got out a few days ago.

next couple of patches will come out in a timely manner
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