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>it's a nobody can play their class correctly episode
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>>331287496
Ah good, was waiting for tonight's thread
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cactuar
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>>331287496
I can't help but feel like the people who can't play properly are having more fun than those of us who do. Some of these classes feel like a total chore to play with all this ability bloat. Unless the next exp only adds utility, things are going to get out of hand.
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>>331288158
Reporting
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>>331287496
So this has gone beyond a discussion and is basically just shitposting at this point right
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>>331288202
I can't see the next expansion adding more skills. If it was all traits building up what we already had that'd be great

>Greased Lightning 4
>Aetherdam 4
>Astral Fire 4
>enhanced AST cards
>traits that further buff existing skills
>SCH and SMN unique traits
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>>331288202
>>331289238

I would expect them to mirror WoW and start combining abilities as they raise the level cap. Its not like they haven't copied everything else.
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>>331287496
>>it's a nobody can play their class correctly episode
I'm sick of this rerun.
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>>331289238
>Gauss Barrel Barrel
>Damage increased by a further 30% but you're rooted in place until combat ends or you die
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>>331289238
>>Greased Lightning 4
Oh god please no.
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Man this patch has been a windfall for people like me who don't craft/gather/jew the mb.

Prior to all this my only income was literally random drops from quick ventures, and doing battlecraft temple leves for the white gear to sell. IV materia from beast tribes on the other hand (and the void ark V) is an easy 1-2mil a week.
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>>331289897
Don't you wanna go fast
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>>331288202
What I want them to add for the next expac is ability choices/specializations. i.e. instead of just getting more abilities you would get the option to replace some of your current abilities with alternatives. Might just be situational stuff but could also include rotation changes. Could potentially go a long way in helping the classes not feel so damn stale.
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>>331290016
I don't want to lose another 10% of my DPS in every other fight because of bullshit mechanics that prevent me from attacking.
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>get weaver mastercraft book IV
>can now make some allagan replicas
>high allagan coat of healing goes for 1 million on the market
>the materials also cost 1 million

How the fuck do endgame crafters make money?
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>>331289897
C'MON STEP IT UP!
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>>331290003
>IV materia from beast tribes
I'm assuming this is incentive for doing ARR beast tribes still but I just can't be damned with whopping 5 rep per day

meanwhile I get 50/70 from Vanu Vanu and Gnath
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>team needs a medic
>no one on the team is worth pocketing/ubering

>team has a medic
>he never heals you
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>>331290137
you make a high quality version of it and sell it for even more even though it means nothing for glamours.
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>>331290003
Can I ask a question?
How much do the Allagan replicas and i230 crafted gear go for on your server?

I heard the value of Gil skyrocked in 3.2 and I'm interested to know how much money I'm gonna haemorrhage when I finally resub on Monday (lazy ISP was supposed to hook up my new place two days ago). That said I'm on Tonberry which has a pretty fucked up economy.
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>Leveling AST
>Aery
>accidentally use Ewer on the DRK instead of SMN because they had similar names
>DRK doesn't use DARKSIDE for the rest of the dungeon
>tell him to put it on for Niddhog
>"dude fuck off, dumb ass AST, don't use Ewer on a DRK, dumb bitch"
>Tell him I'm the one keeping his bitch ass alive
>he fights last boss without using any cooldowns like a dumbass
>proceed to keep everyone alive intentionally use Ewer on him throughout the fight
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>>331290137

>mfw selling replica t9 fending chest for 11m

Could have bumped it up to 16m but i was too cautious.
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>>331290437

>play ast
>have to decided whether to give the enchanced balance to the retarded MNK doing 0 positional movement or the BLM spamming blizzard
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>everyone plays their class perfectly because they've done the same raid 500 times
>squidward_cannedbread.jpg
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>>331290437
But SMN don't need Ewer either.

Ewer should only be used on healers, like yourself, or to be Royal Road for party wide buff.
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How many subs is this game at?
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>>331291505
Datamining estimated that subs are around 700k.
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>>331290345
I'm on Tonberry too, actually, I've always been under the impression the state of our economy's nothing compared to NA where they have inflation out the wazoo, see >>331290978 I doubt you'll find any replica allagan stuff going for more than a mil or 2 here.
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>>331291505

Last major announcement by SquareEnix was it had 600k subs. And this was back in 2014. Since then, they won't release any official reports. Probably because the subs kept decreasing. Especially after Heavensward released, you saw one month of like 1 million people jumping back on the game, then quickly quitting. Now most servers are a ghost town. With the majority of people just sitting at the end game.
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>take it to /vg/

Seen that mentioned a few times in these threads, but I never checked the general until now.

Holy shit.

It's far worse than I could have imagined. I don't think I saw a single topic relating to the game itself - it was just an avatarfag-fest, clamouring for waifus and talk of ERP. Anyone that says to take these discussions to /vg/ should be banished to the FFXIV general, never to return
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>>331290176
Yeah ARR beast tribes only, I lucked out since I never had them leveled (I'm post-heavensward babby) but went back to level them for anima weapon stuff in 3.15.

IIRC it's 20 days straight doing the maximum amount of quests from them every day (3, and then 6 later on) to get to the rank which awards IV materia.
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>>331291152
I insta commend any AST that gives me balance. Since I'm MCH and the only reason they would do so is if they have ACT running to see how much I'm blowing the other dps out of the water.
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>>331291735
>Now most servers are a ghost town

That's because most players transferred to the big servers for free carries because they couldn't clear Alex Savage. That raid has done much damage to the game.
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>>331291353
It's worth using on a BLM since it lets them cast fires longer. but yeah besides that it's best used on yourself.
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>>331291821
Thank you for repeating something already known and not discussing the game. Sounds like /xivg/ corrupted you already.
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>>331292065
BLM can't benefit from Ewer effect when in AF because it only enhances natural mp regen
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>>331291984
Yeah, I think ast get lots of free comms just for making people feel special
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>>331291987

They were pretty empty even before Heavensward. We obviously don't have exact figures. But I'd estimate 80% of the players have left since the games initial release. And while Heavensward got a lot of people to come back, very few of them stayed more than a month.

FFXIV is in trouble if this keeps up.
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>>331289238

>running through a dungeon as BLM
>keep getting lightning procs everywhere
>Thunder 3 every few seconds
>mfw the tank literally had a seizure

More thundercloud traits please!
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Who Leviathan
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>>331291734
Thanks.
I kinda want the pants, chest and AST weapon; and currently I have 8'ish million on me so that should be enough.

I'd just farm them, but T7 triggers me after having spent over 100 hours of my life wiping to Melusine thanks to shitty NA server PUGs.

Never got to practice T9 as a result, so I can't farm that properly either.
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>>331292513
>BLM gets Thunder 4
>it's an AoE dot
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Just resubbed recently after not playing for over a year. I regret not having done these post-story ARR quests, and also only leveling WAR to 50.
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Post gardens
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>>331293029
So cluttery and chaotic
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>>331292128
True that. Talking about shitposting is still shitposting.

So, on topic - I main warrior. Not been playing for long, but I'm at 60 with full eso gear and have cleared most content blind as MT with little issue. Where do I go from here? Is it literally just grinding Void Ark and the like until I get better gear? Should I bother with beast tribe quests? I don't even know where to get started with regards to materia.
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How to get into PvP for quick tomes?
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>>331293158
Void arc gives one l5 materia a week. Alexander's son is a lot of fun unless you get a party of retards, you better have voke,and be lucky with rolls
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>it's a shit meme thread epsiode XDD
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>>331293276
1. Queue as Astrologian
2. Spam Nocturnal Benefic
3. ???
4. Profit!!
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>>331293295
>you better have voke
>all these tanks in midas who have obviously never tankswapped before
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Posting by far the cutest and most competent of Scions.
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JUSTICE
GASSHIN
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>>331293350
>>331293295
>voke
Why even abbreviate provoke? That's fucking retarded. But yeah, I have it. Only encounter I've fought that required tank swapping so far was Ultima hard - honestly surprised there hasn't been more. Used to raid in WoW back in the day, everything so far has been clearly telegraphed and easy as shit.
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>>331293350
It have only been a few instances where the tanks didn't swap, in some cases we even cleared it with no tank swapping. It wasn't fun to heal as me and the other healer had to preheal so much
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>>331293519

Go do some extreme primals and raids, like half of them require it.
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>>331293587
Yeah, I guess I should get in on the ex content. Only one I've done so far was Garuda.
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>>331293029
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post cats
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>>331288158
Sabotender.
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>>331293685
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>>331293029
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>>331293693
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>>331293685
>have 10 mil saved
>really want a little house for myself
>dread 3.3 and the murderous rush for plots in patchday
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>it's a people are still playing this no fun allowed autism simulator episode
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>>331293349
This reminds me:
I'm fantasiaing.

Icelizard or Indianlizard?
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>>331293860
There should open up a house ever more and then from now on. Don't give up!
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did some runs of midas tonight cause i still need some tokens, forgot how trash people are if you aren't trying to get tokens on reset day
WIPING ON A6 ISN'T FUN YOU FUCKING CUNTS
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>>331293693
ok
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>>331293693
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So we have this giant enemy crab...
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>>331293926
Im not playing right now but i know that pain back in A1-4 Months ago. It because such a hassle to get Alex gear for alt jobs since late week players were shit and for fuck sakes it was common to have groups disband at Alex 1 cause they could not understand the fucking idea of handling the bombs and looking at both bosses health.
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>>331293693
Post slutcats.
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>>331294084
>East La Noscean S Rank spawns at the same time as Cancer
And suddenly everyone's playing Eorzea Defense Force 1578
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>it's the end of the week and you still need to cap your lore episode
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>>331294634
>not capping it by doing two roulletes and the rest through midas getting your drops
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>>331294631
I had no idea that was possible, I just assumed hunts were programmed to not occupy the same space as FATEs and the like.
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>>331294821
It's always random. You can even have A and S spawn right next to each other. It's interesting when this happens in Outer La No's caves
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>Miyuki Sawashiro
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Oblivion is the best track in the game. Fite me.
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>>331295954
I unironically like Shiva phase 2.

Also as cool as Ravana, Fiend, Ramuh, etc. all are, Penitus is still my favourite piece of music in the game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx3QPiTcXa4
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>>331294634
I haven't even bothered to get my gear from A8 this week.
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>>331296115
What is the name of the song you like only get in the story mode when youre on the beach, waiting to fight Garuda for the first time?
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>>331296785
Just do it. What else are you going to do? Afk in front of your house? And you'll get that weapon gear that was poorly implementet.
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>>331296810
>beach
You mean that weird little spot in Natalan you fly to with Alphinaud and Cid?
I don't recall that having any music. Also I was shocked to learn that place is actually an overworld zone you can encounter other players in. Ditto for that place where the Amaljaa take you before they plan to sacrifice you to Ifrit.

Weird as that is, it's surprisingly not the same for the place you and Ysayle are taken by the Gnath.
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>>331296880
>put a 8 week lockout on Lore weapons to keep Sephirot weapons relevant
>except poopsockers can do savage and get their 245 Midas weapon if they want
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>>331294634
Just today's expert roulette and i'm fucking done.
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>>331297091
So you can get better rewards for more effort?
WOW what a foreign concept
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>>331294631
Holy SHIT, someone saved one of my screenshots.
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>>331294634
I hit 60 for the first time 2 days ago and lore capped today playing like, 3 hours a day? Is it supposed to be hard to lore cap? Because you get roughly 1 a minute playing PvP.

I have no fucking clue what to do now that I hit 60 though. I just keep upgrading my gear, I have a mismatch of Halone, Antiquated and Asura stuff since I'm doing hunts alongside PvP.
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>>331287496
>Show off this artwork on stream
>Oh that's nice
>Hi-res released
>Minfillia pantyshot

Oh that's nice.
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>>331297058
I think it's was on the umbral isle, it had this music box song. You just watched Garuda from far away while she stod still. In the nighttime on the beach with the forboding music playing in the background. I can't for the life of me find it, I think it's the only time that music was used.
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>>331297381
You're thinking of Siren.
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>>331297372
But then you notice Minfilia's mile long thighs like damn son what is this, crystal treatment?
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>>331293918
They actually both look great. I prefer darker skin, so my vote is on right.
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>>331297381
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVaDB9PJyMk
This one right? Yeah, I've never heard it anywhere else either.
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>>331297358
They probably don't PvP, which is their loss because the daily frontline is one of the quickest sources of lore after the ex roulette (40 lore for ~15 minutes).

You just need to know when to queue so you wait 5-10 minutes at most instead of hours. Well that's here on JP anyway, maybe frontlines are dead over at NA.

I only ever do like one ex roulette a week and the rest gets capped naturally by the week's end from midas/frontline/trial roulettes. I only rush if there's something I want to buy before that week's raiding.
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>>331297973
You found it! Ive been looking non-stop since I last postet trying to find it. Thanks!
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>>331297973
Pretty sure it plays in Tam-tara HM when you fight the elf and the body
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>>331298180
continuation of Edda plotline when
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>>331289897
Just give us hundred fists ffs.
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>>331298257
Tam Tara EX
She'll come back by possessing the body of her older, more-smug sister
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>>331298305
>not wanting Simian Thrash back
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>>331294634
>Reach the end of 3.0
>After 2 weeks I'm already fucking sick of expert roulette and trying to cap my tomestones
>Picked the game back up 3 weeks ago
>Only sitting at 500 lore because I can't be assed to go through that shit again every day

I only really have fun with Void Ark and even then I'm still getting mad at people.
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>>331292513
It would be great if thundercloud procs could stack, so when i get several in a row i don't lose them.
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>>331293452
That's not MC
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>>331293685
Wow, this looks great. Gonna try it with my garden tonight.
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>>331293452
>filthy suncat
>pommie accent
>magic equal to cancer
>blind
>probably enjoys exclusive anal from all the beast tribes in Eorzia
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>>331298708
Pommie accent?
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>>331293918
Both a shitlizards, pleb
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>>331297861
Thanks.
I was actually leaning more towards that one.

Not sure I like her current skin tone, but I definitely want her that sort of brown. Finding the right colour is hard with the dumb character creation lighting.
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>>331287496

This is why FF11 was best MMORPG

If you can't play your class correctly, good luck getting past level 20.

you cause a wipe? you cause everyone in the group to go down a level / get kicked out of the group, and it takes 4-5 hours of grinding IN A GROUP in order to level.

people shit at the game didn't last long.
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>>331296810
Garuda on the beach? Do you mean Siren?
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>>331298331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Z8lHu1a5Dg

Never ever. Rip 1.0.

http://ffxivclassic.fragmenterworks.com/

Hopefully one day, right?
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>>331298890
I prefer the la noscea background for character creation, has the best lighting imo
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>>331298973
>http://ffxivclassic.fragmenterworks.com/
I've been watching it like a hawk. Guy's a genius, doesn't even need help. Only thing I look forward to anymore, I hope it pans out well.
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>>331298962
We found it out. It had been a long time since I did my main story. It isnt too much of a stretch to mix up siren and Garuda
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Midgardsomr
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>>331299028
>Guy's a genius, doesn't even need help


If he had a patreon I'd give him enough money to buy more than a few beers. Might hurt his progress though. I just hope he stays motivated throughout the whole thing. If nothing else it'd be great just to have all the NPCs in the world with working cutscenes and quests.
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Question:
Blue mages in FFXI use curved swords
In VIII Quisitis used a whip.

If, god forbid Yoshi added BLU to FFXIV, how would you feel if they used snake blades?
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>It's an episode episode meme
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>>331299271
Would be cool but is probably too hard to animate for them.
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You know, it didn't occur to me until now, but has anyone ever typed out what the official lyrics to Heroes (AKA HW's final boss theme) are? Almost all the other songs have official lyrics but that one, sounds like Latin but I'd have no way of knowing whether it is or not.
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>>331299623

It's the same fake latin as the Ultima theme. They just used a random lyrics generator.
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>>331299784
Oh, well that's disappointing.
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>>331294634
>capping lore
I only have 600 after 4 weeks.
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>>331298390
>Occasionally get the urge to play again
>Remember it's still the same shit of grinding tomes for gear that will be obsolete in the next patch
I'm surprised people stick around to do that all week but I guess every big game will have its core dedicated fanbase.
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>>331294760
I dread getting the last bolt next week. I should've been done with Midas (aside from the cogs I need for my lore weapon) this week but I fucked up and accidentally greeded a random part I didn't need (and rolled fucking high) on A5 when I meant to pass it, and before I could reach the exit in time it game me the part. I had been trying to get a bolt in A5 for hours, always rolling super low, and it was all for nothing.
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>>331300506
>and accidentally greeded a random part I didn't need (and rolled fucking high) on A5 when I meant to pass it, and before I could reach the exit in time it game me the part. I
I have two Shiva horses because of that.
I didn't think the game would even let me Need on it since I already had the horse, but lo and behold it did; then about a second later when I realised I'd rolled a high 90's I quickly moved my mouse over to pass button only for the last guy to cast his lot.

I felt like such a fucking asshole.
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>It's a Yoshida making another thread episode
Fix your game already, Yoshi-P
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>>331299271
I wouldn't even want Yoshida to touch Blue Mage
>Adventurer those goblins are causing trouble and your mysterious blue crystal is reacting to them
>Duty where you beat up goblins
>Wow you've learned a new skill!
>Can look at the next quest to see what skill you're gonna learn

Either do Blue Mage right or not at all, Yoshi.
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>>331288202
Fuck that attitude entirely. I cannot imagine a single fun thing about not shitting out a constant stream of fire iv as a blm.
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>>331301368
>Learn moves by getting hit by enemy abilities
Is that how BLU would work?
>Unlocking Bad Breath
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>>331301368
Within the context of xiv that would be right, dumbass.
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>>331301635
You can always eat monsters.
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>>331301635
Seems like a nightmare to balance because you know that YoshiP would make "hard" bosses immune to most blue magic.
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>>331301049
Two fc friends of mine were farming pnoies togheter. A nightmare dropped and the one that didnt have it rolled like 96, and my other firend who already had it rolled 99 and got it. My friend was so broken, bitter and sad. He really wanted that one, and after that he kinda stopped playing.
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>>331301049
You can change a greed to a pass just by re-selecting it.
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Reminder that Raya-O-Senna is the shroud's number one cumdump and regularly takes dick from anything with a pulse.
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I love playing an AST, but there is so much shit you can do that I get lost during a boss or whatever. Doing the buffing, healing and some dps on the side is pretty fun honestly.
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>>331301750
your other friend sounds like and asshole.
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>>331301847
Why would you say that?
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>>331301368
This, I hate how none of the job quests are intuitive or innovative at all, it's always "hey kill these monsters, cool here's an ability, come back in 5 levels".

If only farming dungeons was more fun, or there was some other way to get exp. FATEs are absolutely mind-numbing.
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>>331301898
It was by mistake, and he was real sorry for doing it. But he thought, like xiv have teached us, that you can't have to unique items. Turned out that don't apply for ponies
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>>331301930
Because that ain't aether plastered all over her face and thighs, anon.
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>>331301854
I love AST.
>Is the tank taking a shitload of damage?
>yes
Heal that mother fucker, he's an idiot for not pulling CDs.
>no
>Are they taking so much that you can't get in any DPS?
>yes
Heal man, DO YOUR FUCKING JOB
>no
>swap to CS
>DPS

>Draw Cards
>Tank taking damage?
Bole
>Tank not waiting for your bitchass MP?
Ewer
>Dumbass MNK/DRG not getting any TP, and you're doing trash pulls?
Spire, but only if there's not any AoE needed later on.
>DPS doing a shitload more than everyone else?
Balance
>Draw Arrow? nice desu-ne, best card 2k15
I KNOW there's someone you can put that on
>Draw Spear?
REDRAW THIS
>Waiting on anything/someone afk'd?
Hold Card/Royal Road for later

Fun things include:
>Double carding DPS
>AoE carding everyone
>Playing yu-gi-oh between pulls
>pissing FC members off with card macros
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>>331301837
I know, and that's what I tried to do. But if everyone finishes rolling before you change your lot to Pass then it's too late.
In the span of about 2 seconds after hitting Need (upon realising that I was probably going to win) it was already in my inventory.
If even one person had waited to roll then someone more deserving would have Boreas right now.

Also as much as I feel like a dick I saw at least 2-3 mounts drop while farming for a BLM staff. The droprate can't be that low, so if they really wanted one they could probably get it.
Unlike Eagles. Fuck you and your """"""midcore content"""""" Yoshida.
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>>331302142
It really is nonstop with this class.
It sucks that people just hate it and would rather not bother with the randomness of it.
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>>331301847
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>>331302346
Raya-O-Face
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>>331302142
These are so cringeworthy, please fuck off.
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>>331302406
You're cringeworthy desu senpai
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>Arboretum
>NIN dps immediately whips out his sick Replica High Allagan knives and runs through the whole dungeon like a retarded Naruto
>Pulls half of the dungeon's mobs because he kept running ahead of the tank and jumping around
>Proceeds to vote dismiss the tank after he waited for the healer to regain some MP before the second boss

NIN was a mistake
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>>331287496
>episode meme
stop this shit
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>>331302780
Shitter tanks need to pull more.
>waiting for healers ever
They can restore their own mp in battle.
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>>331302346
They call her Raya-O-nahole for a reason
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>>331302780
He would just have rolled a dragon instead.
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>>331302927
Padjals are so pure they would die if they lost their virginity!
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>loved playing AST
>only expected better mp refresh in 3.2
>got that and buffed ewer and spire

I'm a resource maniac never running out of mp and shitting out tp to the melee if I need to this is amazing
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>>331303051
Raya-O must be undead, then
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Cape Westwind farm, call 1 loot, TS required, don't be bad.
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>>331301690
And that's what will make it shit because "muh trinity" Yoshi cock sucker.
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>>331303051
She might not be one anon, she was pretty loose when I rode her.
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>>331303384
You had a problem with the job quests, though? What the hell does that have to do with muh trinity?
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>>331298973
Holy fuck I hope they never finish. There are somethings that deserve to stay dead.

1.0 launch was the biggest mistake and vile thing I had to play.

I even came back during...1.6? or whatever when yoshi p started trying to fix the piece of shit.

It was still shit. So many things wrong with the games. The only decent thing about the game was some of the 1.0 music. Just burn the whole game down and anyone who said this game was good is fucked in their head.
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>>331303607
>Just burn the whole game down and anyone who said this game was good is fucked in their head

Was better than 3.0.
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>>331302780
Not all ninjas are retards, I promise
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>>331299028
Wanna try out 1.23 myself too.
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>>331298973
Ah 1.x combat, where you mostly stood still and switching jobs took extensive macros and 10 seconds of waiting for the server to switch all your gear.
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>>331303607
BUT ASSES AND 2 HANDING CANES
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>>331303740
Yeah no. I quit heavensward on launch and can say that shit was better than 1.0, and thats saying a lot.

The people who said 1.0 was good never fucking played it. You have to be mentally challenged to think that game was anything but a complete broken mess.

There is a reason it got 4/10 and honestly it deserved lower.
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>>331303740
If it was any good then they wouldn't have scrapped the entire game, issue a public apology to everyone for how bad it was, and get rid of Tanaka for letting this train wreck happen.
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>>331298973
>1.0

lol

https://youtu.be/lW5DnpidMiY
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>Main DRK
>Queue as DPS for VA because lower queue time somehow
>DRK Tank
>Battledance Materia everywhere
>GRAVE V BATTLEDANCE
>Doesn't know what to do
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>>331287496
>>it's a nobody can play the game at a basic level episode
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>>331303998
What the fuck? That looks terrible. Why are they all standing around not doing anything? Why are the casting animations awful?

What the fuck this looks so terrible.
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so I'm still confused on what the fuck the differences are between relic, zodiac and anima weapons are.

I'm playing as a MCH, which to my knowledge they don't have the "relic" weapons since MCH was introducted in 3.0, so exactly which weapon/questline am I looking for in regards to these things?
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>>331303983
>>331303940
>>331303821
>>331303998


Most of the issues with 1.0 were engine issues. I really think the overall design principals of the game were better than what we have now. If you wanted to go do a primal you put together a party and then rode out and fought it.
If you wanted to go and gather you just went and did it, no need to fuck around waiting for unspoiled nodes or go do stupid aetherical reduction stuff.
If you wanted to craft you just did it. No need to worry about capping your redscrips for the week or anything.
It was a slower more, and I hate to say it, "comfy" game than the ADHD game it has become.
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>>331303998
>thundara, blizzara
It did at least one thing right.
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>>331304190
Relic was from 2.0. It's level 50 and you did the whole quest chain and got a zodiac weapon (zeta weapon)

Anima weapons are 3.0. Level 60 weapons that right now the cap is ilevel 210 but will be updated throughout 3.0. If you had a zeta weapon from 2.0 you could skip the crystal collecting part from fates, if not no big deal its pretty easy.

MCH had no relic in 2.0 so they made it so you can turn in any zeta to skip that part of the quest. Honestly just work on the quest at a slow pace, no need to rush since its still il210 and the last part is really grindy. First two parts are easy.

You do fates to get crystals (can do it on level 50~ish characters and on a different job and still get the crystals). Next part is just doing 10 dungeons with your new weapon equipped. Third part is grind city though.
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>>331303998
>Ara, Aga spells
>2.0 onwards II, III, IV

Thanks WoWfugees, wouldn't want you getting confused.
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>>331303998
1.0 looks like fucking hot garbage, i see why it was called 4.0 jesus
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>>331303998
>that handwave casting

THESE are the unique casting animations people are missing?
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>>331303998
>that targetting
>that sitting around doing nothing
>those casting animations

fucking kek

holy shit what was wrong with that piece of shit game there are people not doing anything for 20 seconds? fucking kek
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>>331290125
If you're losing GL3 at any point you're pretty shitter tier desu. Theres only a handful of times in the entirety of HW that you physically can't maintain GL3.
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>>331304358
The game not only had engine issues, but it had core game design issues as well.

Areas were literally huge copypasted areas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La9nLBfH44c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA7GGnyNwEs

There was a fatigue system where after fighting for about an hour, your character level and class level EXP rate was reduced by half. They said this was done to prevent botting exploits, but all it did was gate actual players who were paying a subscription to encourage them to play less and less.

Gathering was a whole fucking mess, botany was a RNG fest minigame on its own and it was so bad that they even made fun of it in Heavensward with those new Golden Saucer minigames botany/mining minigames as a throwback to 1.0

The combat was definitely slower but had some depth to it, but it lacked the depth that made XI combat unique and it ended up being a pain in the ass especially since TP regenerated way too slow and the awful server ticks really made you feel the dullness.

The whole game was designed to played with a controller, they never once gave thought to keyboard+mouse users. Everything was managed through a master menu and a god awful software mouse that lagged.
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>My original retainer was a level 50 ROG
>HW comes out and I'm too lazy to level up NIN to 60 so my retainer can be 60
>3.2 lets you assign jobs to retainers
>remember that I have AST to 60 because I fell for that meme

I forget how much of a treat it is when my retainer brings me back cool shit even if I'll never use it.
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>>331305109
Look, to be fair, all of this shit was not there when I actually played it. I did play the game's beta and it was total wank. 1.20 onwards was great. That was when Yoshida had stepped in. He then started implementing ideas that Tanaka had already designed, and the game was great.

Yeah, the areas were huge and copy pasted. That is definitely a huge stuff up on their part. I tink it was partly an engine issues. The game handled memory very poorly. For example it could only display 40 players/objects at a time. Not great when players are in a city populated by hundreds.

Gathering wasn't really RNG. You just couldn't see what you were hitting. Once you knew where everything was it was all good. I don't think they were making fun of it in HW with the mining/botany minigame in the gold saucer. If you have a look all of the arcade games you can play there are timing based. It wasn't very hard for them to implement it and that is why they went for it.

Gathering, despite the lag, was far better than it is in 3.0.
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Yes? No? Maybe?
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>>331305881
Fuck no
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>>331305881
looks like every other lizardslut. now fuck off to /xivg/
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>>331305881
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>>331305881
I don't know. Can you repeat the question?
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>>331305881
There are an insane amount of Auras already. But, you have the same colours for both eyes, which is good, also no crazy outer ring colours. Tanned is good as well, But again, theres so many auras
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>>331305881
>>/xivg/
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>>331305881
no
>>
You know with all the hate potatoes get, they're at least the only race where two characters at least look a little different from each other. With every other race, every member of it looks damn near the same.
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>>331305816
Except for the fatigue system, all of this shit was there and more even in 1.23b the final fucking patch of the game.

All looting of items require 3 dialogues to pick up, selling items is done one by one with confirmation dialogues.

There's no drag and drop so equipping gear is done exclusively through macros and tedium.

When you die there's not even a release pop-up button or anything, you have to open the menu and scroll down about 10 options and hit "return".

The vast majority of the XP you'll gain while playing is gained through leves. You can only do 8 Battleleves every 48 hours, meaning the rest of the time you're playing you're either grinding or leveling non-combat professions.

Every time you enter a combat "stance" your character needs to stop moving completely. You don't regenerate health in combat stance, so this isn't really optional.

Abilities and skills have no range indicators in game, including the radius on AOE spells

Hell even a few of the tooltips in game were still in Japanese.

The whole game was a huge clusterfuck in game design, the game engine issues only made it worse (this is what happens when you use FFXIII's engine to make a damn MMO)
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>on a small server
>cant ever kill odin due to not enough people showing up
>cant ever kill high S-ranks due to not enough people showing up
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>>331304469
so basically, I'm looking for an "anima" weapon. If i had a relic weapon upgraded to a certain point on a vanilla job then it would let me skip ahead a few quests for my MCHs anima weapon, but if not it doesn't matter.

right?
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>>331306202
just wait for them to add something that makes hunts worth doing again

As of right now there's no incentive to do hunts because there's nothing worth buying with seals.
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>>331294821
they can apparently spawn inside the Novice Hall house too
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>>331306245

You can trade in a zeta weapon (fully upgraded level 50 relic) to skip the first step in making an anima weapon (level 60 relic).
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>>331305384
my two assholes are equipped almost as well as i am and only bring me fish. fuck this game.
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>>331306245
Having your Zodiac Zeta lets you skip the first step for the anima relic by sacrificing a zodiac weapon.
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>>331305881
> playing a syphilitic shitlizard

kill yourself
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>>331306316
>>331306361
oh, so basically it only benefits people who already had maxed out their 50 relic and wanted a jump start on the 60 relic when 3.0 first hit.

So to a person like me, who has nothing, thats completely irrelevant and I should just focus on the anima weapon questline
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>>331306438

Yeah
>>
Who Zodiark here.

Ded server. You would see me often if I told you who I was.
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>>331301847
>can't even browse a XIV thread in peace anymore without someone slandering my waifu out of the blue
feels bad
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Been like half a year since I last played. Still not in hw yet.
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>when 3.0 first hit

lol no, Anima relic wasn't included until 3.1, where the ilvl max of 210 was still a thing for like 8 months.

Had the anima relic been included in 3.0 or early after that, people wouldn't mind doing it but the effort involved to get the actual Anima weapon is autistic as fuck, and most people stopped at the Awoken Esoteric because it had a cool particle effect
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I've seen some people mention beast tribe stuff in this thread. I don't give a flying fuck about their mounts (except for the 3.0 tribes), so what's the reason for me to bother grinding out the 2.0 beast tribes?

Is it at all worth it? I also don't craft and have no intentions of doing so, so if thats a benefit it's lost on me.
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>>331306646
excuse me. I meant to say they were included in 3.15, which was even later. It's ridiculous.

It doesn't help that most Anima relics look like garbage. I really only like the WHM one
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>>331306201
>All looting of items require 3 dialogues to pick up, selling items is done one by one with confirmation dialogues.

Items went into a loot window that would eventually go into your inventory automatically if you ignored it. It was designed so items wouldn't automatically clog your inventory up. Yes, everything was a bit slow and laggy when it came to the inventory.

The "tedium" of macro was a simple /equip "Item Name" line. It didn't take a hell of a lot of time, and you weren't getting new equipment all the time so while it was a bit more cumbersome than 2.0's automated gearsets, it wasn't that dreadful.

The vast majority of your experience was gained by partying up with players and camping monster spawns. Players would carefully pull large amounts of enemies and kill them for experience chain bonuses. I made a lot of friends this way.

It was a bit annoying that there were no range indicators, but not everything in 2.0 has them either.

I legit never saw tool tip in Japanese, ever. I played from 1.20 all the way to its closure and never ever saw one. All the other issues you mentioned were incredibly minor. For example stopping when taking your weapon out, is that really a big deal? I don't think so, personally.
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>>331306646
People actually bothered with relic?
All those weeks grinding just to have your weapon replaced in one day by Sephirot weapons.

You didn't even need the relic for anything either, A4S could be cleared with ilvl 200 weapons and Thordan weapons were even better and easier to obtain.
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>>331306646
that sword is actually the one I wanted to get for my DRK

so what is this now...awoken esoteric? I recognize esoteric as one of the tomes you can get. Can you elaborate more on this weapon? That's basically exactly what I'm looking for, a weapon with neat particle effects. I've seen players using them but am never sure exactly where they're from, all I've heard was that relic weapons get effects eventually.
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>>331306681
2.0 beast tribes apparently start giving you Rank IV materia which you can sell for a pretty penny or whatever.

Ixal is the crafting beast tribe if you wanted to know.
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One more round of gnath quests and my anima weapon is done.

I bet it will be very helpful the next time I go farm Sephirot.
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>>331306810
current Anima relic steps are

>Animated Esoteric (a 170 version of the Esoteric weapon, visually looks the same)
>Esoteric Awoken (a 200 version of the Esoteric weapon with a particle effect
>Anima Weapon (a 210 weapon)

the Animated and Awoken steps are super easy to do while the Anima Weapon requires this shit.
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>halfway through finishing it
>3.2 hits
>weapon is wildly outclassed by just about everything

I've lost motivation to go on.
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>>331307047
Relic weapons were always 'catch up' gear and never ever BiS except for 2.5 when they just slapped on the Zeta step for Zodiac weapons to make them 135.
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>>331306681
I'm not sure about 2.0 beast tribes, but 3.0 beast tribe gives some nice EXP for leveling alt jobs.
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>>331307047
>main MCH
>only motivation to do relic was for how awesome it looked
>3.2 hits
>Revolver of the Wanderer

Dropped the relic like a sack of shit.
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>>331289692
Holy shit this is my life. Fucking pets need to be fixed so bad. Can't believe how shit they still are like 2 years later.
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>>331307159
There's always that one weapon that just looks sweet as fuck
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>>331307157
oh im definitely going to level 3.0 beast tribes, but 2.0 beast tribe rewards look pretty fucking paltry
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Anyone on cactuar trying to find a small house in lavender beds?
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>>331307208
To this day I often look back on why the fuck I even bothered to do 2.0 beast tribes when they were a thing.

Was I starved for something to do?
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>>331307206
too bad it's ruined once you turn on gauss barrel.
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>play in windowed mode so I can watch shows/movies while I play since MMOs are grindcity
>HUD doesn't scale when I fullscreen
>have to constantly be checking back to the game when I have it tabbed whilst I'm waiting for a duty to pop

are there any solutions to this, like a way for the game to push a notification or for the tab to pop up when a duty pops or something, ffs
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>>331306469
me. Server is fine.
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>>331306778
Nothing beats bard's retarded looking anima relic. Holy fuck wtf were they thinking.
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>>331307724
Go into the sound options and enable system sounds in the background. So when you're alt-tabbed and your duty pops, you will hear the sound effect and ticking noise.
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>>331307890

But that's one of the better ones.
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Anyone experiencing fucked up audio from dialogue and cut scenes or is it just me?
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>>331307890
I'd say the SCH/SMN ones are bad too, but that's mostly because books are boring as fuck. It's one of the cases where I really prefer particle effects because it keeps them from looking so bland.

But yeah the shit looks like it's made of porcelain
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>don't want to play anymore
>still have 60 days available
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>>331307724
these settings at the top here
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I heard we're going to save Alah Mihgo. I hope it happens soon, the Ala Mighans are our ally.
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>>331308071
just you

probably have to update your audio drivers
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>>331307423
Gauss Barrel ruins everything.
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>>331308263
it looks like diarrhea on the hot dogshit sundae that is the mch anima
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>>331308208
I only want to save ala mhigo so I can deport those ungrateful bastards back to their shitty country
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Does anyone else try to keep their appearance as simple and clean as possible? I feel like a lot of armor in this game is just gaudy.

Oh sorry for the phone pic btw
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Have you guys ever queued for a trial without a job stone as a challenge?

PGL with 10 cross class skills reporting in, hope you like getting cured and swiftcast raised by a melee.
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>>331308732
Kill yourself.
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>>331308743
NA everyone
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Is there a less stressful PvE class than white mage?

All I'm expected to do is top people off and occasionally toss rocks and dots on stuff when nobody needs healing. Plus, I leave mechanics to the DPS and just mindlessly sit somewhere in the arena and spam cure while playing the floor is lava.

I really like being an essential part of the group who keeps people alive, but I want to be even lazier. Is there a healing/support class that has even fewer responsibilities?
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>>331308808

Oh ok
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>>331308845
Scholar.

Your pet does most of the healing for you as you DPS or AFK.
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>>331308845
sch
>turn on cleric stance
>pretend you're a shittier smn

if its a dungeon, right click and follow the tank while you do something else until its over
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>>331309130
>>331309195

Spotted the Mentor shitters.
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>>331308732
I try, then they come out with cool crafted glamor gear and I have to use that for a while.
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>>331308743
>swiftcast raised by a melee.
>raise without CNJ trait
>raising anyone
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