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For every one of us who falls, ten more will take his place!
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We soar on wings of fire!
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>play against IG
>rush them down
>they can't do anything with piss weak infantry
>turn their assholes into raw sausage meat
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>>331204112
>wake up
>it was all a dream
>IG is rushing you with 2 kommie-sars and fucktonn of cheap infantry
>they have nade launchers
>they are immune to morale damage
>once every few seconds their fire rate doubles
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HAIL HYDRA
amirite?
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>>331204409
>Be Caerys
>Have to go to some backwater Mon'keigh system to put down the Necrons.
>Fucking everyone is here
>Handling Necrons alright, should have it wrapped up soon and be home for dinner.
>Suddenly HORDES OF FUCKING MON'KEIGH
>THEY HAVE FUCKING GRENADES
>THEY HAVE FUCKING HATS
>WHERE DID THEY GET SO MANY BANEBLADES?
>My entire army gets theur shit punched in.
>Save myself by joining a harem

Fucking Mon'keigh.
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>>331203531
No guardsman would ever say that.
They have no fucking clue how fucked their are, and when they realize it they don´t blurt out proudly that they are basically only cannon fodder.
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>>331204409
>IMAGINE YOU COULD DEFEAT US COMMANDER
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I love how guardsmen are more expendable than their shitty gear.
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>>331204758
I think the commissars say that
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FOR THE REPUBLIC!
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Someone post that tg screencap of the planet made out of IG
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>>331205129
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>>331205062
http://youtu.be/FFcogzl_RKY
0:54
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OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ OKRZ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whxcq4I0kAo
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"We do not die, we just go in hell to regroup."
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>>331205730
>when Doomrider scores and this starts playing
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>>331206506
Of all this overdesigned shit what annoys me the most is the normal looking sword.
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I loves gettin stuck in LOVES IT
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>cap a point with a meat wave
>make them hold the line til a heavy Bolter turrent could be buildt
>when that's done they move up again
Emperor bless the good old guards of the imperium
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>>331204112
>Rushing IG without anti-building units
Good luck with that.
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WITNESS YOUR ______!
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>minute 3 of a 1x1 match
>a cheeky Big Mek teleports into your base, looks at your builder unit and licks his teef
How fucked are you?
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Just thinking about the quotes from DoW 1 make me want to reinstall.
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>>331207550
(you)
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>>331207550
(you)
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>>331207550
WARP OVER TAKING ME
IT IS A GOOD PAIN
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>>331203952
Is that a protoss?
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>>331207754
Won't go down without a fight, come get some.
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>>331207754
What base?
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>>331208179
>Wreck an eldar player and kill all his builders.
>He hid a webway gate in the corner of the map
Make me just want to quit every time.
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>>331209552
> WC3
> Smash a night elf 1v1
> he uprooted some of his buildings and ate his way into the forest
> forced to waste time teching to air and patrolling the map
I hated that shit.
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>>331209719
I just realized, I never bothered to look into ideal tech paths for w3
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>>331204758
>Cadians
>not knowing that they're only cannon fodder

You get to pick only one
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>>331207754
FIX YOUR GUBBINS
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> Astra Militarum
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>>331212346
I SHOULD INVENT SOME KINDA MACHINE THAT MAKES WALKING FAAASTAArrrgh
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>>331203531
Stupid mon-keigh.
This means we can place your troops wherever we want them.
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>>331213280
I wanna...
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>>331207754

He chases my scarabs around while my gauss turret whittles him down.
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>play IG
shitty ass reinforcement queue can't fit the whole additional reinforcements so you have to come back to that unit of guardsmen again
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>>331213952

Right click on the reinforcement button.
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>>331213952
You just right click on the button and it will automatically reinforce until the squad is full
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>>331204758
it's from Marvel Comics
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>>331214052
>>331214109
You're fucking with me.
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>>331214571
Works on weapon upgrades as well
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>>331214571

It also works for weapon upgrades and unit production. This works extremely well with Orks, get get Free Slugga!, build ten+ hutz then shit out a never ending tide of Boyz.
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>The escort mission in Winter Assault

Emperor help I'm getting my ass handed every which way
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>>331214928
Sit your commander in your base and have him use Call Escort every time they start getting anywhere near the frontlines
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>>331214571
Hoo boy, you're about to have a fucking treat.
Don't forget Orkz, too.
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>>331214052
>>331214109
Fucking shit, i never knew this was possible.
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>>331215084
Also works on buildings and will keep building units if you have the resources
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An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
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>>331214928
That was a fun one. I don't remember having much trouble with it as IG beyond my baneblade getting stuck in hordes of guardsmen due to shitty pathing, but the Ork version of it was insane. With Chaos you start out with enough money to rush to T2, make horrors and burst the Land Raider as soon as it tries to move past you. With Orks though, you started with nothing, had to build up while dick ass spess elves keep sending their dudes to fuck you up, then fight your way up to their base on a tight time limit. I think the only reason I managed to beat that mission as Orks was because of a bug - the timer glitched out or something and I had unlimited time to do the final part of the mission. Without that it was absurdly difficult.
Never did it with Eldar though, I should replay it sometime.
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>tfw pneumonia as nurglite
Feels good man.
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MFW my ally necron teched up already to restored monolith n carries me late.
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>>331214052
FUCK
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>>331215534

Death or healing - I care not which you seek.
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>>331215534

Funny, since he joins chaos and all.
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>>331215607
>playing Nurgle aligned chaos lord in the middle of the wastes
>kicking undivided and Tzeenchian ass
>only need one more province to create kingdom tier title
>province is controlled by Khornefags
>declare war and assemble levies
>lead army in person like a good chaos lord
>outnumber Khornefags 4 to 1
>khorne leader kills me in single combat event chain anyway
>mfw
>am teenage son now
>all the tribes hate me
Fun mod
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>>331205730
REMOVE XENO SCUM
PURGE THE HERETICS
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>>331216306
>leading armies yourself when you're not either an avatar of war with 10+ personal combat, have a good hier to take over or both
You dun goofed.
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>>331208083
>lets take a builder unit
>and give it Commander armour
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ5s81NRdQE

>I am the Emperor's will made manifest!
>Faith is purest when it is unquestioning
>Blessed the mind too small for doubt
>Redeem them with sword and fire
>Only in war are we truly faithful
>We live and dies as brothers!
>Pay now! Reward in the afterlife

I can't hear you over the sound of the best Space Marine
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>>331216735
RP ing as a Chaos lord is fun
Not the most effective way of playing, but as they say sanity is for the weak
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>>331216930
Would follow to Hell and back.
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>every W40K thread is an Ork Thread

lootin thread
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>>331216930
Your "best" space marines are easiest to sway to chaos. Even easier than psykers
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>>331217035
Objectively best race
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>>331216869
The Omnissiah grants his faithful freedom from the weakness of flesh.
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>>331205129
WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS
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>>331215791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlpWn7w0Z0I
This is probably my favorite quote if we're talking apothecary.
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>>331215028
Not much the issue, but it still is difficult to do that, I want those Dreadnoughts and plasma cannons to wreck the chaos base.

And Power and Req production is too low to effectively keep up.

One time a bunch of gretchins built turrets right outside the first base and blew up the vehicle building. That was nice of them. Then a defiler ate the rest of the base.

And then the Land Raider waltzed off on it's own and got raped by Obliterators.
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>>331217069

Orks fight Chaos for fun
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>>331217207
Orks fight everything for fun
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>>331217346
Da Fightz Da Fing
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>>331217002
Oh I'm rping as well. It's a load of fun in that mod.
Wish it wouldn't run slow as shit though.
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>>331217137
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>>331207754
R8 muh big mek.
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>>331204717
>Save myself by joining a harem
what
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>>331218138
No Red/10

No Klan colours either. You gotta represent!
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>>331217656
>won't forget moot
Just imagining all those halfling little shits getting torn limb from limb by chaos warriors is making me hard
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>>331214052
fuck this gay earth
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>>331218138
nice went ham and slapped mega armour on himself
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>>331214928
If you just hug the left side of the map you shouldn't have much problem
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>>331218138
Good job on the OSL, thats hard to do right
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>>331214571
>>331215084
>>331215684
>>331218514
How the fuck did you guys not know one of the most basic things in DOW.

Seriously, how.
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>>331218394
Khorne pls go.
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>>331218361
His armor is actually a really dark shade of red.
Also, Klans aren't that big thing for meks, as they tend to just serve the groups who pay them the best, or do their own thing.
Clan loyalty is far stronger for ordinary boyz, Nobz, and Warbosses etc.

>>331218534
Well of course.
Why wouldn't any self respecting big mek use mega armor?

>>331218614
Thanks m8.
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BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD
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>>331218163
He is vance mother fucking stubbs anon
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*Rattling*
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>>331218394
Me too
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>>331219250
I always destroyed their stronghold first in DC so I wouldn't have to put up with their shit.
>Attacking Necrons province as IG
>They already have 2 prebuilt bases
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Which game has the best campaign, DC or SS?
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>>331219548

Finish one stronghold with both of them and you'll easily know.
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>>331219548
DC has way better interaction between factions
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>>331219446
>Its the vindicare assasin area
>Both commanders just teleport in and use the blinding orb
>Normal warriors just walk up and murder me, even when I have t2 shit
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>>331219548
DC is better aside from obvious reasons (Karskin troopers with their insane dps and the Necrons) while Soulstorm is lacking in depth, it has Air units and the Necrons aren't as bullshit.
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>>331219747
Air units were terrible
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>>331203531
Actually, a bunch of Chaos Marines took his place. I fucked that mission up so bad, omg.
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>>331204758
Some guardsmen do live long enough to realise this. Not many but some.
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FINALLY FUCKING DID IT

LEVEL 20 BLOODY COLISEUM HAS BEEN BEATEN

FUCK
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>>331219548
DC.
People prefer SS for the multi.
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>>331219629
I've not played them in years, I can barely remember any of the details.

>>331219671
In what way, gameplay mechanics or script?
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>>331219548
DC. It has better designed stronghold missions, better voiceacting on them too. In SC they feel really slow and grindy, I remember hating the Chaos one especially hard. SC also screwed up the defensive game - in DC you get every building that you made during the original fight for the area while attacking AI gets a huge honour guard, in SC you have to buy buildings separately after conquering the area and your choice is pretty small, it's really "fun" defending a province from several defilers and a Chaos Lord while all you have is HQ, rax, 4 gens and a couple of turrets.
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>>331219847
They made the game so piss easy and it feels like they just tacked them on with no concept of what it meant for the other units.
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>>331217118
Absolutely worst race. That position is reserved for the Eldar.
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>>331204112
>Playing IG
>Retard assaults 50 man conscript blob
>blob contains Commissar, Priest, Psyker
>Dies like a bitch to overwatch

Welcome to 7th cuz. In the ShootyGunness of the 41st millennium there is only the shooting phase.
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>>331220036
Does Winter Assault get good? So far it's all invulnerable/infinitely spawning units and Eldar cocksucking.
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>>331219847
They are terrible but at least they can be used as a quick flanking option if you don't have assault marines or something of the sort.
those fucking things are also really useful if you wanna create a deepstrike squad almost anywhere on the map. helped me on the SOB HQ for sure.
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>>331220021
>he couldn't beat the game until an OP as fuck character was added

I don't mean to mock you Anon, I feel too bad for you, I suck balls at games and I've beaten it hundreds of times with randoms.
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>all these people who aren't delivering death to the traitor and the heretic from hundreds of thousands of kilometers away
I shiggy diggy doo.
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>>331220289
We did it with a rank 20 farseer, an underleveled melee cron, and myself as an underleved ranged Nid.

I don't even have fucking synapse or evolution.
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>>331205194
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>>331220289
It's funny that they added Anvil of Khorne as a "harder" option, but it turned out to be much easier due to having no clones. Wave 16 and 20 on the Colosseum really makes you think about your team composition. I had a game as mek stacked for maximum tankiness, I literally couldn't die on the wave 16, but that also applied to my clone. We went on fighting for 15 minutes before I just gave up. Also it was fun when you picked Tau and first thing you saw on wave 16 was AT rockets flying out of fog of war and killing 2 of your teammates in one hit.
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>>331209552
>>331209719
>Red Alert 2
>build Mirage Tank and have him hold his fire
>hide him
Literally the only way to find them was by either destroying all trees on the map or with the stealth detection beacon. Dolphins and Akula had a similiar thing, only a few units could detect them and you could always outmanouvre them on island maps.
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>>331220467
>a rank 20 farseer

They're fucking amazing, but holy shit it's scary when the dopple farseer starts group teleporting after you with a mob of bloodthirsters.

I tend to take fleet of foot and leave my allies to their fate these days.

>>331220572
Exactly, it's a much better balance and makes the whole game more interesting, given all the interactions that can go on.

Me and my friend were playing with randoms and got an eldar who dropped out early on, I cloned the eldar on wave 16 and from then on we just tried to keep out of the melee. That clone soloed wave 20 by itself, it was amazing.

Pic related; best clone build by a mile.
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>>331220104

From a gameplay perspective the Stronghold assaults are quite alright, however the regular conquests are more drawn out as you cannot save buildings while defending provinces, you're forced to move across planets which requires tedious Take & Hold victories, and your mobility is lowered, which makes trudging through them very boring very quickly.

As far as atmosphere goes, it's painfully obvious the SP was left unfinished as there's no dialogue between commanders and poorly made ending cutscenes. The races don't even have their own separate beginning videos. The only commander that radiates personality and conviction is the Canoness, so only play the SoB campaign and skip the rest - the other new race, the DEldar, are a pain to attack strongholds with and not as convincing as far as their voice acting goes.

DC is undeniably superior but giving Soulstorm a chance isn't a mistake. On a plus side, the final Canoness wargear upgrade is absolutely hilarious and broken once you've finally grinded those 5k kills. Just don't run into a pimped out Plot Archon as he will absolutely MURDER every other commander effortlessly.
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>>331220815
>notice tree line where shots are coming from
>shell the absolute shit out of them with V2 rockets or tank shells.
>not salting the earth with small payloads much akin to how russians already do
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>>331220104
both
>DC
>eliphas mocking necrons then realizing they have no souls for him to feast
>tau not even being able to understand eliphas because they have no presence in the warp

>SS
>METAL BOXES
>the pariah talking in place of the necron lord (pretty funny since they were eventually removed alltogether)

>DC
>1 or 2 basses for you to assault
>bunch of other shit standing between you and them
>interactions in-between
>usually get to capture their strategic assets and use it against them

>SS
>METAL BOXES, DESTROY
>TANKS, DESTROY
>INFANTRY, DESTROY
>now you can finish the mission
>the entirety of the dark eldar
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>>331220467
>an underleveled melee cron

Level 7 is all that it takes to make him incredibly useful at not dying and killing single target toughies.

I seriously stopped playing not just him but also every other hero. They sucked out all feeling of accomplishment from that mode.
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>>331221351
I started beating Anvil of Khorne left and right thanks to the cron. Seriously, so long as you have a glass cannon (in this case, me playing as a Lord General), and two overlords spamming suppression fields to your flanks you can just rocket run waves down for days.

I have yet to finish wave 20 of Bloodied Colosseum, though.
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>>331221351
>They sucked out all feeling of accomplishment from that mode.

QFT.

I hope they nerf him, or buff the enemies, or something. It was fun being OP for a while but Necron is just so absurdly tanky you don't even need any of your various methods for cheating death.
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>>331221228
DC has the Pariah

SS has the Necron Lord itself talking
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>>331218873
http://youtu.be/HAdXWM1btG4
Just imagine a peaceful quiet halfling village
Children playing in the grass
The adults feasting
The cheerful drinking and partying
People walking around, enjoying another beautiful day in the moot
There's the old couple, who have spent most of their life happily married
There is a mother, caring for her newborn child
A young lad finally working the courage to ask that girl he likes out
The legions of chaos descending upon this helpless village
The young lad watching the girl he loved getting a axe through her skull, the last thing he ever saw before meeting a similar fate
A chaos warrior ripping the newborn child from her mother, and using the kid to play blood bowl with his chaos buddies
The mother is literally curbed stomped by a champion of the dark gods
The old couple being locked inside their house before the followers of chaos set it on fire
The children are captured and eviscerated, their deaths fueling disturbing dark powerful spells
The lucky adults are either killed very painfully and brutally, the others are turned into mutants and chaos spawn
The village burns, and this pleases me
Fuck the halflings
>>331219348
Mah nigga
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>>331220967
I personally think that classic characters are the best for Blood Colosseum, Sorcerer and all the clonning shenanigans with cloned sorcs that clone more sorcs can get really out of hand, same with extreme bursting potential of Tau. I think my first time beating Colosseum was as a babbysitting farseer - I just teleported around the map and ressed my hapless allies while turning on mass confuse from time to time.
My friend used to grind it with a plasma cannon captain and a bottom left gate abuse that allowed him to phase out of arena and shoot shit from the bottom of the map. Playing it with 2 shooty teleporting meks with a heal was fun too - you needed to coordinate with a friend though and then you could jump around the map ifinitely, giving each other health and energy with 'ave a taste.
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by the Emperor, I want an IG based game so bad
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>>331221575
>I have yet to finish wave 20 of Bloodied Colosseum, though.

I can help with that, anyone else in?
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>>331204409
Pretty much this. If you want to win against IG then the T2 is the best moment. Attacking them early is asking for getting pounded.
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>>331221784
WE STRIKE WITH THE WRATH OF THE RIGHTEOUS
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>>331221190
I meant it as when the enemy is losing and decides to delay your victory. So the Mirage is sent somwhere where it isn't out of place and that forces you to start destroying each tree individually untill you find it.

>>331221228
Tau have a presence in the Warp. But they are so miniscule, non tasty and possibly harder to corrupt, so nobody does it when they have much better targets.
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>>331221754
The originals are far better balanced, but they can also be rather dull, the marine in particular bores me to tears. The difference in power between them and the new characters is obscene.

The sorcs cloning sorcs was patched out a long time ago, now your clone can't clone any heroes AFAIK. It's not a bug I ever got to see sadly.
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>>331222339
I like how he always does that special attack in a different direction each time you reach wave 20.
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>>331219348
sauce?
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Why me?
Fucking orcs.
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>>331221784
I fear no evil, for I AM FEAR INCARNATE.
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how do i use the necron lord effectively?
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>>331222025
The bug worked kinda like this, I spent 41 millenia in paint drawing this for you. You needed to stand on the bottom pillar of the gate as it was closing, if you stood there just in right position you would be able to phase out of the map and shoot shit from relative safety. I think they fixed it late in Chaos Rising's life cycle.
Also yeah, Force Commander was probably the dullest, but also safest pick. I remember when a standard game of Last Stand was just 3 FCs with plasma rifles, artificer armours, jump packs and dread summons. It was kinda fun to jump around, throw nades be a cheesy dick.
For me the dullest character is probably the Lord General. I hate how he has loads of mediocre features strapped to him while excelling in none of them.
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>>331223515
Right click on the enemy.
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>Grey Knights used to have morale
>Grey Knights have unused squad broken voice clips
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>>331222959
STOP
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Oh shit, I forgot to add my greatest work
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>>331223564
Oh I love the LG, I know he's a bit crap, but there's nothing like taking three of them and desperately trying to hold the line.

>>331223684
Did they also fix the droppod from being able to do that?

I fucking hate when people use that glitch, I try not to be all lawful good about it, but why bother playing if you can't lose?
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If you will not serve in combat, then you will serve on the firing line!
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>>331223876
>guard minions
>doesn't equip a weapon with wargear package
>equip a melee weapon instead
Dude should have been shot by a commissar.
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>>331218039
If they're not a playable faction in DoW 3 I'll fucking riot.

At least have AdMech playable period and 2 or 3 Skitarii options.

I don't want any of this fucking bullshit like in the previous DoWs where they're just a singular unit in another army or something. They're not fucking Kroot-tier auxillaries, dammit.
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>Managed to beat BC with a doppleganger sorcerer a few days ago with mekboy and hive tyrant team

I couldn't stop laughing on the last wave, so much bullshit happened and we still managed to win
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>>331223515

He's meant to patch the holes in your army and keep you alive/keep your enemy busy until you get your Death March ready. His upgrades give him a variety of choices, he is very mobile with his teleports (moreso in DC, but Crons really shined there) and does sync kills often, letting you tie up enemy squads for a long time. However, despite his high commander health and good regen, his commander damage isn't very good and will actually lose to most squads without Lightning Field.

You may be tempted to send him solo to distract your enemy which is very risky as you NEED him to cover your slow, short ranged NWs or support Flayed Ones/Wraiths. However, thanks to his mobility and upgrades he can get into an enemy's base and bash some light buildings relatively quickly and force your enemy to send some units back to deal with him. Do NOT try to deepstrike spam Flayed Ones into someone's base, that's an oooooold trick and works only versus inexperienced guys.

Pick upgrades depending on whoever you're facing - Solar Pulse is excellent for shutting down masses of ranged mobs or IG buildings, forcing the former to relocate or get into melee as well as letting your Warriors get into range - this is especially devastating when combined with Chronometron, which is an under appreciated artefact. Lighting Field lets him win every 1v1 commander duel and lets him dish out damage to enemy T2 melee rapists, though he'll still crumble if he gets unlucky with sync kills. Phylactery helps you get back into fight faster, stay there longer or tank some ranged shots, which allows you to pester an enemy by taking down his upgraded LPs solo.
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>>331223632
>Grey Knights used to have a GOAT fluff codex
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>>331222932
The 4chan built in search function is your friend, friend.
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>>331224571
I'm fucking seconding this. I can't even find any mods for the Dawn of War games that let me play as the AdMech.

Tfw you will never spread the glory of the Omnissiah to the unwashed masses.
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>>331215534
beware the mutant, the alien, the heretic...
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>>331224571
>They're not fucking Kroot-tier auxillaries, dammit.
No but they're fucking dick and they won't do a thing unless they are directly threatened and fleeing is not an option or if an STC is involved.

Also I'm willing to bet that they won't be until the last expansion/DLC of DoW3.
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>>331225127
won't be playable
Dunno how I fucked up this one.
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>>331224659
>his commander damage isn't very good and will actually lose to most squads without Lightning Field.

*lose to most commanders in 1v1 duels, is what I meant to say. At least his teleport lets him survive getting touched by the Chaos Lord, fucker's 50% slow pretty much forces other commanders to stay and fight to (their) death, as escape is otherwise almost impossible (unless you attach your commander to a squad and hope the CL goes for something else).

For the record, Lightning Field deals back 90% of other units' melee damage. You may sometimes get away with activating Phase Shift while surrounded by melee units, as LF still gets charged even though the NL is invulnerable during that time. I forgot whether enemies still damage themselves when attacking while it's active. Btw PS's increased regen stacks with Phylactery, so you might combine them to further boost your NL's capabilities but you only get 3 artefact slots and the greatly boost your army as a whole.
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I really want a game where I get to play as a Night Lord doing stupid batshit crazy terrorist things
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>>331218039
Aren't the siktarii just mindless battle drones that have threads for legs and advance in a straight line?

At least that's the impression I got from reading one of the novels featuring them, or was that the author simply taking a lot of artistic liberty in regards to the lore?
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>>331224947
there's a mod in development hell of the admech though
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>>331225127
Just dump an STC on the planet/system the game is set on, then. They've managed to find reasons for every other faction to be somewhere, however flimsy. From what I understand the fuckers are everywhere, so there shouldn't be much issue, right?

I just want my cute mechanical soldiers, anon.
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>>331225740
they aren't drones
they're batshitcrazy humans in power armor who can't find any fucks to give when it comes to taking cover

that said , they're also dickheads
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>>331225740
They aren't mindless, though they do have a cogitator implanted in their brains that allow the higher-ups to take control of them if necessary. They're also just huge religious fanatics, so they tend to fight fearlessly due to the whole logic of "Metal is stronk" -> "I am eighty percent metal" -> "I am stronk"
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>>331225947
The issue with the AdMech finding a working, non-corrupted STC is that it would be too much of an advantage for the Imperium if an Imperial faction win.
And making the victory of an non-Imperial faction canon would cause massive butthurt.
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>>331226435
So just have the blood magpies steal it, problem solved.
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>>331226435
I just had a thought. The AdMech worship STCs no matter what they're actually designed to construct. They could make a kickass tank or warmachine or something, or they could make a combine thresher or a tractor or something and they would fight just as hard for it. It could always be something like that?
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>>331223515

For the record, you were talking about NL in DC/SS, not the overlord in TLS, right?
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>>331226435
Have it be a fragment of an STC that improves the battery life of power swords by 7 minutes or something. As long it's new tech they will stay there.
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>>331226606
>a tractor
The Leman Russ, you mean?
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>>331226556
The Dark Angels are the one who specialize in STC thievery.

>>331226606
They already do that: the Leman Russ is originally a tractor.
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>>331225740
It's 40k, so you can do pretty much anything you want and still be completely in line with the fluff. Especially for AdMech or Rogue Trader and Inquisitor technology.
That said, you are probably misremembering. Skitarii are human soldiers wearing fancy armor, augmented to a certain degree (anything from just minor body and brain augmentations to fully integrated weaponry), shot up with combat drugs and heavily indoctrinated into the AdMech cult. They are not mindless, altough there are some examples where Magos program them in such a way they can later exert their control over them, at least the officers.
You probably read about Battle Servitors. They can be literally anykind of robot you can think of, as long as you throw in a human brain and use technical terms from 40k. Hell, even the brain isn't really necessary, but that makes it an automated drone/turret, not a servitor.
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>>331226435
Could just be a fragment. Or records of an STC's location. They'd go in full force for that.
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>>331226761
>>331227092
Leman Russ was always a tank. Only some tank used by the Death Korps of Krieg is a modified utility vehicle or someshit like that.
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>>331225740
The standard Skitarii troops are basically just cyborgs with some metal brain bits, however they have minds of their own, and some degree of free will (that can be overridden by their admech overlords when they deem it necessary).

Underneath all the cyborg bits and advanced admech gear is however a religious soldier, whose zeal and devotion towards the cause of the Adeptus Mechanicus, and the Omnisiah, rivals that of Space Marines and Adepta Soritas. They are religious warriors first, crazy cyborg shock troops of an elite technoreligious order second.

The more mindless servitor warriors etc, like picture related, tend to be made from criminals and other malcontents, which is part of why they lack free will etc.
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>>331226435
Someone explain to me please why the AdMech would fight against the Imperium and if they even would have a chance.
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>>331228532
>We want this
>No go away
>HARGHABLELELGHBL FUCK YOU WE'RETAKING IT

This applies to basically any inter-Imperium conflict you care to name
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>>331220478
>it's on patrol
Everytime
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>>331228532
>Imperial Guard has orders to destroy Chaos-corrupted STC
>Admech says "no"
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>>331228532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TvN5lCVkRk
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>>331228637
>>331228718
>>331228773
So it's rather a faction-against-faction inside the imperium thing and not a "we, the AdMech, declare ourselves independant and that the emperor is a huge fag"-thing?
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>>331228937
The Imperium doesn't fall apart every time one of its armies fights another
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>>331228532
Are you kidding me?
The Admech are pretty much an independent faction that is just allied with the Imperium, and produces their shit.
If they spot something fancy that they like, that is being denied from them by a bunch of Imperial forces, there is nothing short of a whole freaking crusade fleet bearing down on them that can stop the Admech from just going in, killing the Guardsmen etc that are holding the shinies away from the techpriest, and totally getting away with both the shinies, as well as the slaughter of Imperial Servants.

The Imperium needs the Admech so much that they have to put up with the above sort of shenanigans. Without Admech, the Imperium would crumple totally, however Admech itself could still have a decent chance of enduring in some form even without the Imperium.
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>>331228937
>"we, the AdMech, declare ourselves independant and that the emperor is a huge fag"
Not as a whole, but it has happened.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Mechanicus
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Heretek
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>>331229154
God I hate cog boys.
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>>331229309
Suck it up, meatbag.
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>>331228532
Everyone in 40k will readily backstab anyone, even their own allies. Even Tyranids, which are a fucking Hive Mind, have fought each other a few times. But to be fair, the winning Hive Fleet will emerge out much more stronger than before the fight, because it will have a fuckload of biomass and knowledge from the loser.
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>>331229270
Great, I always wondered where the CSM get their tech from.
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>>331229270
There is also a huge, hidden schism within the admech itself regarding whether or not the Emps is actually the Omnisiah or not.

The Admech are basically a separate empire within the Imperium. The whole "Emperor=Omnisiah is basically them barely paying lip service to the Imperial Creed, mostly just so that the Ecclesiarchy doesn't have as many excuses to fuck with them as they already do. Hell, the only imperial authorities outside of the council of Terra that can actually order Admech folks around are Inquisitors, and even they are fools to actually exercise that power in any real fashion. You don't fuck with the only people who know how to make and repair your basically everything, ranging from lowly flashlights to world ending space faring churches.

>>331229309
Deal with it, fleshbag.
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>>331229601
Most of it is Heresy era stuff

They don't even have Stormbolters
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>>331229590
Hive Fleets fighting against one another is basically just the overall Hivemind of the Tyranids testing out which fleet has the best adaptations and shit. That way, it strenghtens itself, as it basically loses only time in the process, as all the biomass is reclaimed (the nids don't feed on worlds in order to gain energy, they do it just to gain more raw biomass. Their main source of energy is solar radiation that the hive ships collect.)
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The debate rages on.

http://strawpoll.me/6927873
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>>331229945
>Stormbolters
Fucking Loyalists, taking pride in what is basically a twin-linked bolter.
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>>331230307
All Primarchs are faggot manbabies.
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>>331229945
Wouldn't that be more advanced than what they have now?
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>>331230420
Silly you, Older=Better logic only applies to the Imperium and sometimes to the Eldar.

Because fuck Chaos having anything neat.
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>>331230354
>a twin-linked bolter
The Stormbolter is superior in every way to Chaos' shitty "strap two bolters together" Combi-bolter
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>>331230307
I was about to vote but then I remembered the elves are massive faggots and the imperium of man is best
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>>331205730
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHgu_fBlSjk

Orks you say?
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>>331230510
To be fair they have daemons. You have to balance that somehow.
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>>331227285
That Kreig vehicle is literally a K-v2. The only tank in existence uglier than a Leman Russ. Ragnarok I believe it was called
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>>331230853
>dat commissar
I'm in love already.
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>>331230827
You could easily balance that shit pointswise m8.
Make Chaos Marines, and their gear really powerful, to indicate the fact that a lot of them are veterans of thousands of years of war (time works funnily in the warp), and some even got gear from Heresy era, but also make them far, far costly than their loyalist counterparts.
But fuck that, because Spesh Muhreens always have to be the best, and have the best gear, otherwise 13 year old Timmy will be upset that his Ultramuhreen scouts lose to Chaos Marines.
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>>331230813
I am going to be very disappointed if this game doesn't have the Killfrenzy.
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>>331230995
>dat ending
Fuck. I just wanted a qt commissar.
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>>331230995
That bitch missed h
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>>331231228
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>>331231164
Are you buttmad that your favorite faction doesn't have all the neat toys? SM wank annoys me too, but it makes sense that they get all the tacticool shit. They have the logistics, the AdMech, the support.

Though we probably both agree that individual CSM should have the possibilities to be stronger, due to chaos fuckery.
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>>331231674
My favorite faction are the Eldar actually, and I got too much neat shit, to the point that some people refuse to play with me on principle, despite me not even running cheese lists like all jetbike lists etc.

I am mostly annoyed by the Spesh Muhreen favoritism, especially when there is so much potential for really cool and neat shit in Chaos Muhreens, that doesn't just boil down to "lol, chaos mutations!"
You could have all sorts of insane, dark mechanicum gear, Horus Heresy era equipment, dangerous alien devices that chaos fags have no issues with using, unlike the imperials, and in general, just a ton of really interesting shit that could make the Chaos Marines more than just "ebil spiky muhreens with mutations."
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>>331232248
>eldar

They were too busy fucking around literally to make cool shit
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>>331232454
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of muh Dual D cannon Wraith Knight fucking your mother.
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>For every one of us who falls, ten more will take his place!
So why not send eleven in the first place? Fucking GARDSMIN.
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>>331232248
Hey, I don't play tabletop but I like Eldar the most, too. Imperial Guard second

I mean I get your point, but I also think if they have daemons on top of that shit could get unbalanced.
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>tfw this arrived in the mail and we're having a 4 player game on monday
Feels good man.
Dibs on Chaos.
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What are some of the better Warhammer books for newbie? I like the lore.
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>>331232780
Fag, play the real game
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>>331233021
What real game?
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>>331232724
Deamons are actually their own separate army from the Chaos Muhreens in 40k.
They can ally each other, but they have different dexes.
Also, to my knowledge, Deamons aren't even that strong in 40k.
The real powerhouses are factions like the Tau, Eldar, and Necrons, rules wise at least at the moment.
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>>331232972
I don't know about the novels, but the fluff in the codices was great. Look online for .pdfs of the older (2nd-3rd editions) ones and enjoy the great little stories that are dotted around.
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>>331233130
I'm talking a bit about the fluff, sorry for any misunderstandings, especially since fluff =/= gameplay. Let's rather say if CSM had superior technology AND chaos it would be too much.
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>>331233454
That could be migated easily by the fact that Loyalist Spesh Muhreens outnumber Chaos Muhreens with ease, and Chaos is just as likely to fight against itself as it is to fight against the Imperium.
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>>331216930

And I thought playing fuckin' IG was inspiring
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I really hope someone releases a MMO for the Warhammer 40k Universe. One that actually does the universe justice. Has a lot of races (Eldar, Dark Eldar, Orcs, The Imperium, Tau, Chaos, etc) and a big universe.

I hope Eternal Crusade does well, cause that's the closest chance we got.
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>>331232596
>dark age human ships are so powerful they can control time
>fluff where one used its time weapons on an elder ship to force it back into the path of its first shot because it didn't feel like firing a second one

Mankind ain't nothing to fuck with.
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>>331234262
And despite of that, DAoT humanity couldn't do shit against the Eldar Empire. Humanity back then was nothing in comparison to the Eldar of that age.
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>>331233813
Shouldn't be there more CSM because they don't have to obey the rules? All I can find is that they rarely appear in huge numbers, because of infighting. The cop-out of lazy writing.
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>>331234018
eternal crusade was already released and it was dead on arrival. Even constant shilling couldn´t save it. Nobody just fell for the Space marine multiplayer standalone meme
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>>331234702
Making Spesh Muhreens is hard, time taking, and dangerous process (for the spesh muhreen candidate.) Most Chaos Marines are traitors and renegades. There are only very few groups of Chaos Marines that have the capability to raise full fledged Marines out of their own aspirants.
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>>331234887
Eternal crusade isn't an MMO anymore, it's just what space marine should have been.
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>>331235042
They don't need to make more of them, they just corrupt loyal chapters.
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>>331235170
Easier said than done senpai.
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>>331203531
best models coming through.
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Being a grunt in the Imperial Guard troops must've fucking sucked.
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>>331235170
>just corrupt loyal chapters

Sure and after that we'll just go kill the emperor.
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>>331235569
Almost everyone has a better life than the average citizen of the Imperium.
Tau, Orks, Eldar, even heretics, because they have more fun.
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>>331234702
most of them are fucking around all over the universe and the eye of terror. some like the world eaters are so batshit insane i doubt they even have the capacity to do anything but murder things.
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>>331235085

It's not even out yet though. It's still in shitty access. I'm withholding my judgement till full release in another 5 years.
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>>331235569
No wonder they always go to chaos. Space marines and IG are basically the only normal thing they could get to fight
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>>331203531
the pimp lord general of commoragh has arrived, please present an Orifice for violation or I will make one.
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>>331236357
You can violate barell of my bolter.
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>>331236357
Didn't you die at the end of Soulstorm
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>>331236357
Left ear.
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>>331236747
That was a clone.
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>>331236747
Not Tahril who would gladly take his spot
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>>331236357
I want this eldar and his bad chaos cosplay to go back to his craftworld.
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[spoilers] THE COWARDS, THE FOOLS! [/spoilers]
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>>331236357
11 BARRELS OF HELL
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>>331236747
no, that dude has been alive longer than slaanesh and tabletop wise he is one of the only people who can take abbadon the despoiler on in 1 on 1 combat, him being in soulstorm is a mistake because fluff wise he would have raped pretty everything the other armys have, he is one of the most powerful mortals in existence and considering regular dark eldar warriors are fast enough that they can doge lasgun shots in mid air and kick frag grenades back and lilth is so skilled her hair counts as a power weapon.
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>>331237906
Go to bed Asdruabael you're high
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>go fuck it and play a game of last stand anyway
>necron lord tanking all the fucking clones on wave 20 and not dying
i legitimately cant tell if that guy was cheating or necron lord is that bullshit
least i got my dreadnaught now
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