Is Fromsoft trying to cater their trailers to a more casual fanbase since Bloodborne, and thus unknowingly planting a seed where "DIS GAME TOO HARD MAN!" will complain and they will tone down the difficulty of the games in the future?
because let's be honest and memes aside, Souls games ARE difficult, there are games that are more difficult naturally, but let's not pretend that Souls games are easy that anybody can pick up and win.
Anyways let's compare trailers;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC9_-0szeTo - Demon's Souls, this trailer screams "This game is hardcore, you must be hardcore to beat me"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3HdfzC7Shg - Dark Souls 1's trailer caters to a more hardcore fanbase through it's trailer design, much like DeS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qByFob7-8VY - Dark Souls 2, also not that casual, doesn't cater to dudebros but rather "hardcore nerds". You definitely see a shift of focus here though, with the inclusion of songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PofO32sS8s - Bloodborne, this is where they really started to go for a dudebro approach with it's sickdark action and mainstream singing. They obviously want to bring in more people who never played their games before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVBFjrH-kIc - Dark Souls 3, even more casual singing, giving you false hope that this game will be quite easy, or at least not too difficult.
Dudebro Extreme will like the trailer and buy it, just to die endlessly and complain on Gamefaqs och Neogaf that the game should have difficulty sliders.
Am I overthinking this, or do more casual trailers risk giving people the wrong idea of a game, and will developers start to listen to these new people?
I do want to add though that I find the Bloodborne and DS3 trailer cool as fuck, I'm just worried that it will also attract the wrong people and in the end, destroy the series by casualising it for Chad Thundercock.
Only casuals ever thought the series was hard.
>>330966706
The achievement for dying in DaS2 is called "Welcome to Dark Souls", so they've been doing this way before Bloodborne.
Souls series was never that good, and annual CoD tier sequels don't help.
And those who actually say "Chad Thundercock" should never be taken seriously.
>>330966706
The series was never about it "being hard" the difficulty is meant to be part of the worldbuilding.
>>330966706
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Bandai Namco are in charge of the trailers?
>>330966706
>They obviously want to bring in more people who never played their games before.
No. Way.
>>330967171
I have no source but I'm almost sure they are since they are the producers.
>Implying https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W3JnSrc1bo isn't the best trailer along with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpLhv21BS0
>>330967239
That is what I would have thought too, considering the developers only actually work on the game, not marketing...
Yeah some of the trailers are shit. They should probably give SE and KojiPro a call to see how it's done.
>>330966706
> Anyways let's compare trailers;
> Dark Souls 1's trailer caters to a more hardcore fanbase through it's trailer design, much like DeS.
OH MY GODPLEASE HELP ME, KNEE DEEP IN THE RIVER TRYIN' TO BE CLEAN!Fag
It's hard to compare because Bandai Namco and Sony are responsible for the trailers and not From Software.
>>330966706
>sickdark
Reminder not to respond to """people""" using this buzzword.
>>330967249
This is hot garbage.
>>330966706
You're grasping at straws.
>>330966706
You're not even comparing the same types of trailers. The Bloodborne one you used was made for TV commercials and wasn't a launch trailer like the first ones.
This is Bloodbornes launch trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFU_ZInBbBo
>>330967397
You're garbage.
I'm not entirely sure of the point you're trying to make, OP. The main appeal of the Souls games are their difficulty. The main audience, or, "Casuals" if you will, are the majority of the people that buy these games. Bloodborne went pretty unnoticed by the casual audience because of little to no mention of From in the marketing done by Sony. A lot of people don't know FromSoftware by name, but the main audience knows "FROM THE MAKERS OF DARK SOULS". It is strange, because Dark Souls was kind of a niche thing when it came out. Hell, whenever Demon Souls is mentioned, nobosy knows what it is. In terms of popularity, it has to be
>DaS
>BB
>DeS
Mind you, this is coming from a person who has never played a Dark Souls, Demon Souls or Bloodborne game. Merely just outside opinions.
I am looking forward to this game. Liked Demon souls, liked Dark Douls, liked Dark souls 2, liked Bloodborne, and will more than likely like this game as well.
>>330966706
If anything, Dark Souls 3's trailer is probably closest to the overall actual tone of the series. It's about succeeding and overcoming hardships through perseverance.
>>330966706
ITT: Dark Souls 1 fanboys with rose tinted glasses.
>sickdark
McFucking kill thyself.
:salt:
Souls has been normie dudebro "HARDEST GAEM EVAR!!11!" since Dark Souls
>>330966706
>sickdark
i see what your're trying to do anon, and unlike 40k it doesn't have a good ring to it. please stop
>>330966706
Why does it never lock on lmoa?
>>330966706
Jesus, that Dark Souls II trailer is hands down the worst on that list.
Really cringeworthy narration, shit music that doesn't fit the images.
Just awful.
they are trying to cater to this player.
>>330968540
That had to be a joke article.
>will they change the entire structure of what makes a souls game a souls game because of random fucktards?
Do you really need to ask?
All that "PREPARE TO DIE AT THIS HANDS OF THIS HARDCORE AS FUCK GAME" shit Bamco marketed their entries with weren't a good thing in the long run.
>Dark Souls 1's trailer caters to a more hardcore fanbase through it's trailer design, much like DeS.
DaS1' trailer and motto "Prepare To Die" scream tryhard clickbait type shit.
>dudebro
im sorry
i thought i closed the tumblr tab hours ago
>>330968857
It's not by a journalist, it's a wrestling heel. The guy's just playing his role
>>330969364
/v/ is tumblr
>>330969364
Why were you on tumblr to begin with
>>330966706
Holy shit all of them except the BB and DaS3 ones are so bad. I never really give a shit about trailers so this is my first time watching any of them, they are so bad they might have actually swayed me towards not buying Dark Souls 1 if I saw them at the time. They are put together like cheap iOS game trailers.
>>330969558
porn probally
>>330969558
Porn mostly.
>>330969364
>ever having tumblr open in the first place
/v/ is awful
>>330967292
SE is still the king of trailers and cutscenes in general.
honestly looks like a pretty average souls trailer, complete with unfitting music, doesn't really lack the impact that the hardcore DaS1 one has. So I think it will do jack shit, seriously how autistic are you for making this thread.
>>330966706
>X Souls
>Hard
Fucking kek. The game gives you an infinite number of tries, it's impossible to lose.
what's wrong with unfitting music in trailers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGmmXd8r4YQ
>>330966706
ur mom is dudebro
>>330969760
So does every game.
>>330966706
For every single souls game there's been some kind of paranoia spread about the difficulty level. It needs to stop, it's never a thing.
>>330966757
DS3 is the last in the series breh. It is officially dead.
>>330969760
Unless it's a rogue-like or certain difficulty modes, permadeath is rare in games.
At worse, you have to load a save from hours ago, and even then you are still trying again. Just so you know, King's Field had a Save/Load system, and that wasn't any harder.
>>330969829
>Unfitting
That trailer is fucking great.
>>330970131
I never said it was a bad trailer.
>>330966987
>Souls series was never that good,
Here's your (You). Personal opinions are fine anon, but don't just go around spreading your lies.
Come on, man, get over this whole hardcore bullshit. You aren't expected to win a boss fight the first time. Dying is a core mechanic in this game that allows you to learn the patterns and beat it. Ultimately the main difference between it and other RPGs, is that other games always have more ways out or are mostly about grinding to be able to beat a boss, whereas here you need to learn the patterns. That's all there is to it. Learning something vs mindless grinding to outlevel a boss.
>>330966706
>they ruining my secret hardgame
>>330966706
>soulsborne gonna cater to wider audience
They want those shekels.
>>330966706
> Demon's Souls trailer and marketing
About the gameplay and showing off the various environments and enemies.
> Dark Souls marketing and trailers
Because of people meming DeS's difficulty to death, they switched focus to appeal to the "hardest game ever" crowd. Trailer mentions dying over and over, and shows footage of the player constantly being hit or killed wheras DeS only showed you beating the enemies against overwhelming odds. Tagline is "Prepare to Die".
> Dark Souls 2 marketing and trailers
"You will die" is the first words, continues appealing the 9GAG crowd that thinks being unfair and impossible to beat is what these games are about.
> Bloodborne marketing
Difficulting isnt mentioned, "dying lots" isnt lauded as a feature and instead they focus on the world of Yharnam and the combat mechanics.
Say what you will about them, but Sony is by far the better publisher for From's games. Game wasnt rushed out the door (BB began development in 2011) nor do they intrude on creativity and cause games to be scrapped and re-salvaged halfway through (DaS2) or compromise the integrity of the game by marketing it as "le hardest game ever, you will die 100s of times".
If you play these games for the difficulty it means you are both
a) shit, they really arn't that hard if you are patient enough to learn the mechanics and dont just rush in like an idiot. You'll die a bunch of times, but you shouldnt die to the same thing twice. The games dont require lightning fast reflexs or demand perfection from you.
b) completly missing the point of the series, play the games because they are fun and rewarding which the challange is a part of creating this, it is not the sole reason you should play.
>>330966706
>Series gets more successful
>Publisher allocates more money to make a better trailer
And?
>>330966706
All those trailers are awful. I think DaS2 was the only one with an awful reveal trailer though.
