HOW THE FUCK DO I BEAT HER
shoot at it until it dies
>>330615205
Don't be a fucking faggot, kid
>>330615080
Upgraded Typhoon. Only need two charges if I remember correctly.
>>330615080
Chris Brown isn't doing anything, is he?
>>330615251
I don't have upgraded Typhoon.
I have no fucking combat upgrades
>>330615267
ok good joke
though beating her doesn't do shit
she's like a mary sue desu
>>330615329
Director's cut? Only done it once but you can hack something to get up top in the room and then... electrocute her? I don't remember. I just Typhooned her like a smart person.
>>330615080
Federova runs around invisible in a room that has water all over the floor.
WATER ON THE FLOOR.
>>330615238
maybe if you didn't miss all your shots i wouldn't be a faggot
>>330615329
>I DON'T HAVE COMBAT UPGRADES! HOW DO I BEAT BOSSES!
I love this meme. I'm glad it is coming back.
>Shoot electrical things to electrocute floor
>Make sure you have that immunity upgrade
>Shoot with explosive revolver
>Win
>>330615329
You could finish non lethally with the taser in the original. Just needed enough ammo.
Dunno about Director's cut
>>330615490
Base edition, not DC.
>>330615523
YOURE ON THE FLOOR, DUMBASS.
>>330615630
I don't miss ANY of them.
>>330615646
The first boss was fine, I assumed I didn't need them.
>>330615829
I don't have the immunity upgrade...
>>330615897
Stun Gun? I have like 14 shots. That enough?
I also have the PEPS.
>>330615902
>Base edition, not DC.
You're basically fucked without a Typhoon. I mean, you can shoot her a bunch, assuming you have ammo, but if you don't...
>>330615902
Base game?
Shit.
Reload to the hallway before the room, grab the heavy machine gun and ammo in the little room on the left of the hallway. Should be enough.
>>330615080
If I remember correctly the 'stealth' way to beat her in the base game was get her to do her aoe attack close to a computer server a few times until it explodes and electrocutes her due to the water on the floor.
The bosses were so terrible for such a good game.
>>330616026
It's not doing shit though!
>>330616108
But that kills you!
>>330615995
I believe it takes more than 20, but I don't actually remember.
But maybe combined with the PEPS it could work.
I just punched everybody up to that point so I sat on a lot of ammo.
>>330615902
>I assumed I didn't need them
You don't. Even in the base game each boss encounter is exploitable so a non combat play can easily take them out. For federova its the water on the floor. Firstly it lets you see where she is on top of being an important way for a non com to beat her. You don't need any augs.
>>330616167
Gotta stun her first, I think? Stun gun, water on the floor, stun grenade...
While she's woozy, light that bitch up.Also, maybe drop the difficulty down for this fight? I won't tell anyone.
>>330616172
fugg that's ridiculous.
I mean I get that they had to have bosses.
But why the fuck are they THIS hard?
>>330616381
Dude.
The electricity kills you.
>>330616385
The electricity kills you.
>>330616461
If only there was SOME WAY to trigger it from a distance.
>>330616381
Spoilers for base game exploit of third boss:Run to the right around the wall as soon as the fight starts. When he/she/it jumps over the wall to get you, hit the QTE for an insta-kill.
>>330616554
IT HITS YOU FROM A DISTANCE YOU FUCKING RETARD
ITS THE ENTIRE ROOM
>>330616616
incorrect.
>>330615080
go upstairs
>>330616567
It's not an explot, Jeron is just a lil bitch.
>>330616616
I guess you have to restart the game from the beginning and pick a better build then :(
what i remember about this boss
>does the sexy walk
>goes invisible and probably also shoots you when not cloaked
>I unload all my smg ammo
>some explosive revolver
>ded
It was the easiest boss for me (i did namir without takedowns and with chinese aug firmware)
>>330616461
I looked it up, it takes between 20 an 35 darts to kill her using the stun gun, depending on difficulty.
alternatively:
>Fedorova can be stun-locked with the stun gun. On Give me Deus Ex difficulty, it takes around 35 shots to defeat Fedorova. But stunning her just once and then throwing explosives at her, around 5 or 6 of them, will end the fight almost immediately after it begins. On normal difficulty you can stun her 20 times in succession and then hit her with a blast from something heavier for a more satisfying victory.I dunno why I am spoonfeeding though.
>>330615080
GIT
U
D
>>330615902
Couldn't you stand on the dry land or boxes to avoid being electrocuted?
>>330615080
This is the audience modern games are being targeted to. BAKA senpai.
>>330616752
[hokage intensifies]
I shot her in the head with stun gun 8 times and she died.
She was stunlocked the entire time.
WAIT I DID IT
It literally took EVERY SINGLE stun gun shot I had.
Thank fuck.
>>330616930
>>330616945
It's a shit boss, fags.
>>330615080
1. Stand on box or machinery.
2. Shoot electric thing on the wall.
3. Boss is paralyzed
4. Shoot her.
>>330615080
Woman beating sexist. I'm contacting Feminist Frequency you shitlord.
>>330617087
Hilarious.
Out of curiosity, what difficulty?
>>330617087
you're shit, faggot
that's the easiest boss in the game
Always grab the three frag mines in Derelict Row specifically for this boss fight. Immediately go left and toss one down on the ground where you came in, she'll run into it and get stunned, then just throw the other two on top of her.
>>330617181
She doesn't care about video games anymore. Not that she did too much caring in the first place.
>>330617185
Just Medium.
>>330617217
The first boss was WAY easier than this.
>>330617217
Nah, base game easiest is either Barret if you throw gas canisters at him or Namir if you use the exploit.
What are your augmentations, and what's inside your inventory? You have overhealth? Or just 100?
>>330615080
What, Mettaton?
Just survive until you blow his limbs off.
>>330617226
I always used those mines for Barrett. He will walk right into them helping you beat him from the first cover position. By the Fedorova fight this motherfucker really should've had the Typhoon. No excuse.
>>330617346
>By the Fedorova fight this motherfucker really should've had the Typhoon.
Typhoon is NOT stealthy.
>>330617087
>subtle clues for how to beat bosses without relying on augments or previously collected weapons
WHAT THE FUCK I CAN'T FUCKING DO THIS! THIS IS SHIT!
Well then you are just shit aren't you. The bosses were all designed to be an easy stand off for a lethal player and a puzzle for pacifists.
>>330617274
Pacifist run?
>>330617346
Gassing him is funnier.
>>330617226
>>330617346
There are enough mines in federovas room to beat her.
You the same guy who keeps making threads to bitch about Federova?
>>330617403
You see that thing in the fucking intro walk and then THESE motherfuckers cut you to ribbons. All the motivation right there to drop at least TWO of your DOZENS of points into this blasty piece of techno-whatzits.
FUCK.
>>330615080
A Speed Runner's strat showed all you have to do is dump something like three grenades one after the other I think. Not sure if that was on easy though.
>>330617438
>puzzle
>literally just fire the Stun Gun into her stunned body until she dies
>>330617465
yeah but it fucking blows
I forgot that I killed two people earlier inadvertently so it's not really pacifist
but then again I'll probably get DC after this so I can give it a better try
>>330617631
it's cool yeah, but for a stealth run it's stupid as fuck
>>330617535
In the base game? I don't know what your talking about.
>>330617739
He probably collected all those mines planted in, under, and above stairwells. But most were just flash mines.
>>330617723
>it's cool yeah, but for a stealth run it's stupid as fuck
Not when you know the game has shit bosses that Typhoon easily destroys. Burn the two or three points and save the rest for real stealth shit.
Plus the ammo takes up only two spots. Typhoon is damn near required for stealth runs in the base game.
>>330617617
It's a multi layered meme.
Originally it was people trying to lower sales of the game just as it came out because they didn't want the franchise spiled. They nitpicked about everything and the boss fights were a common target.
Later after it became clear they completely missed how each fight was designed for all styles of play, these threads were started ironically to mock people that play games they have no reason to play due to lack of skill, understanding or enjoyment.
>>330617882
Well I know now, but you still shouldn't think that a pacifist run should OBVIOUSLY invest in Typhoon, because that's fucking stupid.
>>330617723
I dunno, it is pretty amusing to never be detected and kill no one.
>>330617882
Not really. Gas and explosive canisters for Barret; Stun gun for Fedorova. Exploit for Namir (which I personnally find more fitting than any other strategy)
>>330617739
The boss room has weapons lockers all round the outer ring.
by the way do you guys play this with M/KB or controller? I've found controller a lot more comfortable.
>>330618006
Pacifist and stealth are not mutually exclusive. Jensen's a killing robot bastard bent on revenge. Not the game's fault when someone misread's the context and fucks their run.
>>330618006
No, you don't know. You still haven't done the fight right. It can be done on any difficulty with no augs.
>>330615329
>I don't have upgraded Typhoon.
Poor bastard.
>>330618115
This bait is better than the OP
>>330618112
That's horseshit. Barrett's does and the Hyron does. Not Fedorova or Namir.
>>330618004
Omoshiroi.
Anyway, just wanted to ask if anyone else went through the trouble of jacking the turret at Omega Ranch and lugging it around to kill most everything in your way? Even took down Namir with it, was a curiously proud moment for me setting it up behind me with mines in front and watching him walk himself into death repeatedly.
>>330618103
>which I personnally find more fitting than any other strategy
I would laugh if Jensen mentions that exploit in MD, or shows that exploit in the comics
>>330618313
How? Just because the keyboard has hotkeys doesn't make it better. The trigger system for cover is a lot more intuitive.
>>330618213
>Doing the boss fight right
You are forced into a confrontation, cannot avoid it, are detected from the start, cannot talk your way out of it or weaken the boss in any way beforehand.
That takes a lot away from the player. Might as well be expedient rather than bothering with those fights as designed.
>>330618325
Okay champ. If you didn't notice them they must not be there. Tree in the woods and all that.
>>330618518
hush, hush. Don't ruin good bait.
>>330618325
Federova definitely has lockers.
Source: am OP.
>>330618325
My good man you've been playing on your own special kind of hard mode.
>>330618438
Highly unlikely, but it would be funny indeed.
But really, Namir punches Jensen in the face. Might as well pay him back.
>>330618563
Are you being paid to be retarded? That's the only way you would act like this right now.
Or are you... actually retarded?
>>330618325
They are hidden and I didn't find them while keeping an eye out for the crazy fast invisible bitch but they are there. Hump the walls like it's Doom and you will find them.
>>330618557
>That takes a lot away from the player
That is the point. Jensen is a bad ass but he is way out of his league. He is now face to face with a hardened killer and key member of an elite augmented kill squad.
If you are a combat player you use your weapons and augs and find that you are the stronger. If you are not a combat player you would have to look at your environment to find the advantage you need.
It is there and fairly obvious. You seem to keep missing it. Remember, everything you need to kill the boss is in that room. You don't need augments or any other gear.
Have you guys preordered Mankind Divided? I'm considering it.
>>330618760
Not the guy you're replying too, but, i literally did this boss fight this morning, and it certainly has lockers lol
>>330618952
>It is there and fairly obvious.
For the fifth time.
The generators kill you too. They don't work.
>>330618760
Well you could always reinstall the game and fight the boss again to glean some insight, see what I saw. The truth is out there.
>>330618325
Actually Namir has lockers too, it's like two statue bases in the whole room though.
At least they ensured you can't have a permanent fail-state if you enter the room unarmed, even if the fights are seven kinds of shit.
>>330618978
I'm not sure why anyone's even replying, his wafer thin bait can crumble with any number of Youtube videos.
>>330619059
They don't if you trigger them properly. The tools to do this can be found in the room.
>>330619059
It seems to fucking work for everyone else, MAYBE, just MAYBE, you're not as smart/good as you fucking seem to think you are.
All right memers you win.
>>330619059
Been some time but I'm fairly sure you can get her to kill herself with if you stand around the generator and sprint away as she starts to charge you. Don't even need to use guns.
>>330615080
I'm doing a pacifist run on the hardest difficulty.
I used mines a lot and I have a fully upgraded Revolver for these situationsand if I just want to go all out on some NPCs because I forgot to save a certain section and fuck it up
>>330619487
Either 1. she triggers the generator and it still kills you or 2. she just follows you anyways.
>>330618952
I disagree that this is a good design choice.
You are forced into direct confrontation, no matter your playstyle. Assuming a guns blazing Jensen makes this logical.
Assuming a careful, stealthy Jensen, this does not.
But boss fights are not the meat of the game so this hardly matters.
>>330619654
Perhaps you are too close. Perhaps there is a way to force it to trigger when you are far enough away.
>>330619778
They assumed a careful stealthy Jensen would be smart enough to use the room to his advantage. I mean I did it on my first playthrough which was also my pacifist/foxiest of hounds. I mean sure I died the first time but it was obvious what I needed to do after that.
>>330619839
Shooting at it...
Which kills you...
>>330620080
I think the problem is really the AI, Barret for example will just know where you are regardless of attempts at stealth.
I was invisible and he was just tracking me and throwing grenades "randomly" that found their market. I'm sure there's some excuse that he has visual augs to just know, but it sort of defeats the purpose of trying to think outside the box when he'll just come straight for you.
Get the aug that protects you from getting electrocuted. Shoot the things on the wall so she gets electrocuted and I think you might be able to use a take down on her then.
>>330620080
Sure, but what I mean is that those are setpieces independant of player actions.
Events should play out differently wether you were never seen or if noone is alive to tell about it.
>>330619107
>it's like two statue bases in the whole room though.
Yeah, SMG and Plasma Lancer.
>>330620438
Yeah that's true. I found out that rapidly changing cover fucks with his targeting for a while, then he goes into Alarmed state
>>330620239
I am fairly sure there is somewhere you can stand on that won't. Either floor without water or some platform. I think I stood on those lockers near wall when she did. Or you can just typhoon her. Or shoot. Or stunlock with the gun.
>>330620576
There is also a platform (maybe more than one, idk) to stand on if you dont have the augment.
>>330620741
I tried all the platforms and they all still gave me damage. I'm sorry but it just doesn't work.
>>330620752
Is there only a single one?
>>330620842
Try them again. I guarantee you that I did this fight with no emp shield and I remember using jumping aug to avoid some damage.
>>330620842
>it just doesn't work
Except people keep telling you that you are missing something and then you complain that doing the same thing again doesn't work.
>>330617023
I-is that ultra-low quality?
>>330621373
must be the mobile version
i hope they add different ways to tackle bosses or at least make the fights not shit
>playing fully stealth and non-lethal
>pull out my grenade launcher to shove 10 bombs up the bosses ass
>alternatively spam typhoon while eating 3 candy bars
>>330621195
>>330621230
I already beat the fight, it's so shallow that you can just stun lock her with the stun gun and nothing else.
>>330616461
>the electricity kills you
There's an aug that prevents that, or at least significantly reduces damage from it.
EMP grenades are the key to this fight. EMP, light her up or trigger a session of electroshock therapy, then rinse and repeat.
Even if you're playing stealth/hacking, you should always have one fully-upgraded gun and some ammo for it, just for the bosses.
No one here is interested in Mankind Divided?
>>330616616
>ITS THE ENTIRE ROOM
Yeah, no. There are safe spots in that room for each of the electricity discharges. Stop being a bitch.
Go look up one of the many 'no aug' runs people did of the base game, and watch how they handled her.
>>330621931
You can beat her with no stun gun.
I can't help you if you are going to be like "nuh uh, I couldn't so it's not possible at all, shut up". You got through it anyway, even if using a pure cheese tactic.
The fights are shitty, but they are not that shitty.
she's easy as fuck
>see her running towards you
>throw EMP grenade
>run
>shoot the fuck out of her after it explodes
>heal up if necessary
>repeat
>>330619430
>grabbing a typhoon for a stealth run
Bitch, I went full combat and never bought the Typhoon. It just always seemed pretty lame.
>Play though game without killing a single soul, no alerts, no piss outlines, crosshair, stun or tranq
>Save Malik, do every sidequest perfectly
>Even do the Factory Zero run of The Missing Link
>Finally beat the final boss
>Get Foxiest of the Hounds, but not Pacifist
Holy shit I'm angry
>>330623130
IIRC unconscious enemies have a tendency to just fucking die for no reason, and the game blames it on you because ass programming. It makes pacifist a real bitch unless you just go full ghost.
Either that or they could've died when you saved Malik, which commonly happens because of the explosions.
>>330615902
Stand on the dry parts and shoot at the generators until they explode. Then shoot the fuck out of her when she's stunned. If you run out of generators and she's still not dead, check the lockers. Those things are filled with EMP mines, just lay em around in the water or wherever you're not standing and you win.
>A big fucking tv is telling me when to run and shoot her
>I guess it's time to just stand around and die
>>330622048
Last time people only became interested in HR after the demo leaked where it blew everyone's shits. Until i actually get to see a finished project in our hands or something im not expecting anything.
>>330616616
You're actually just incorrect. Stand on the black parts, they're above the coolant. Try experimenting next time instead of shitting on people for offering advice.
>>330618325
I literally played that boss fight today. There are lockers all around filled to the fucking brim with ammo and EMP mines.
>>330624838
The style of the game's opening surgery sequence is so much better than that.
That looks like a low-budget X-men villain's origin story.
>>330623642
>Stand on the black parts, they're above the coolant.
Tried this many many many times.
>>330615080
go to bed pat
>>330624969
>That looks like a low-budget X-men villain's origin story.
Close. It's by DC
The room ahs tons of containers with weapons. Just use them. I had a stealth build, no typhoon, and did her just fine with minimum quick loading.
