Honest question, when does this game get good?
To me, it looks like a game that did everything right, except the story, the gameplay and atmosphere. I really don't get the hype about it, even .hack //G.U. is better.
I got the second class (warrior), but it's still the same shit. Is the mage class better?
The only good story-related quests are the last three, the rest are just flavor.
A few hours in
The gameplay is fantastic, but not much else is. So if the combat and character advancement doesn't grab you then I doubt anything else will. For me I was hooked the second I crawled across buildings and found treasure scattered everywhere. Then you go and grapple a cyclops or shoot its eye out.
If it's still not your thing past the point of fighting the Griffin at the Bluemoon Tower then just stop. I personally love the gameplay and atmosphere, but it's completely understandable if it doesn't grab some people.
>>329892509
At which part? After the witch forest mission?
Is mage a better class?
It's pretty shit. The later half of the main story is just this weird farming dungeon.
The main quest of the game is literally to farm some shards off random enemies.
>>329892719
Mage is shit. Play sorcereruf you want pure magic but you should try the hybrids. They are the most fun
>>329892326
>a game that did everything right, except the story, the gameplay and atmosphere
Uh
So nothing?
>>329892664
>For me I was hooked the second I crawled across buildings and found treasure scattered everywhere.
You see, that is the problem. I loved this too, going exploring and finding stuff, but the combat is such a turn off.
If the combat was decent, this game would be a 9/10 game. Like I said above, it's a game who did everything right except the gameplay, the story and the atmosphere (what are the most important things in a game for me).
>play hard mode as fighter
>niggas one hit kill me
>managed to reach 30 even before reaching grand soren
>lots of fun blocking attacks and praying pawn don't go full retard
>actually have to climb cyclops to whack them to death
>have lots of fun
>now I'm level 130 Mystic Knight
>doing BBI
>damn dank, dark, creepy closed environment shit
>just slap right elemental enchantment and great cannon away to victory or watch my sorc pawn murder everything with bolide
I enjoy more when everything was dangerous as fuck, shit gear or playing as Sorceror and casting high bolide all day everyday. I tend to die if I make a mistake like casting great cannon or buffs in front of a curse dragon who just lunges me with a bite.
>>329892326
Warrior is GOAT
Killing a huge monster in one hit is the best thing ever
>>329892326
>he fell for the 'dragon's dogma is a good game' meme
lmao
>>329892326
>even .hack //G.U. is better.
>a JRPG is better than an ARPG
thank god this thread started on the right foot
>>329892326
I had the same issue
The combat seems dull and slowly running around the world starts getting dull pretty quick after you've killed your hundredth goblin/wolf/thief
>>329893486
I just have to disagree with you then. To me the combat is 10/10. Climbing on giant monsters, shooting weak spots, conjuring massive pillars of ice, bringing down dragon-kin with a well timed blade slam, jumping off a pawn's shield to get to a weak point, and more. It's fucking fantastic to me and kept me going for 100+ hours. If it's not your thing that's fair, but saying it didn't do the gameplay right is a questionable opinion to me.
Also, how can a game do everything right if the gameplay, story, and atmosphere are all not good to you? What is even left then? The music? World?
>>329894471
>arc of deliverance grigori
>tfw he goes from 8 health bars down to 2
>>329894607
>arc any enemy in BBI in the foot because they're all huge
>do half a bar
seriously niggers?
>>329892326
>I got the second class (warrior), but it's still the same shit. Is the mage class better?
this is definitely a bait post
>>329893884
dragons dogma was developed by the japs
>>329895134
We both know JRPG hasn't meant "RPG developed in Japan" for a long while
>>329894471
>Also, how can a game do everything right if the gameplay, story, and atmosphere are all not good to you?
Ico had shit gameplay and meh story, but the 10/10 atmosphere and some details here and there made the game amazing.
God Hand has shit story and atmosphere, but the gameplay is amazing.
The first Dark Souls has amazing gameplay, decent atmosphere and collecting new weapons is fun as fuck, but the story is terrible.
I think I had high hopes for Dragon's Dogma and expected the combat to get better after some time, dunno. I'm mad, I expected the same fun I had with Monster Hunter, but in a open world.
>What is even left then? The music? World?
the giant world to explore, the curiosity to fight more enemies like the Chimera, but fighting goblins/wolves/bandits/harpies over and over again gets boring eventually.
>>329893884
.hack //G.U. is an ARPG.
>>329895708
Is it? I mean, sure, it isn't turn based by any stretch of the imagination, but the battles are always versus 1 to 3 enemies, the game stops when you execute a skill, giving you ample time to do them, and basic attacks are just an opening for Rengeki
If it's an aRPG, it fringes on the definition.
>>329895085
It's a honest question. Why do you think it's bait?
Maybe I forgot to get a skill or something.
its real fuckin boring
>>329893486
>the combat isnt't good
What the fuck is your problem?
>>329896317
Monster Hunter is better, IMO.
>>329896317
Is this really the warrior class?
>>329896217
Did you get savage/indomitable lash and arc of might/deliverance?
If not you played it wrong
>>329896317
>animations
Ok
>>329896778
What?
>>329896871
he said animations
probably meant that the game doesnt have roll for all classes with i-frames to help noobs cheese their way through
>>329897094
>he said animations
No shit, the stupidity of that post just killed me on the inside.
>>329896871
>>329897094
Is this bait? Watch the webm again, it's supposed to be used to 'prove' that DD has better combat, but all it shows is an attack animation
Games that have dodge rolling aren't necessarily easy either, don't get why DD fags repeat that so much
When you reach BBI, it becomes fun
>>329897382
I feel deeply sorry for anyone that plays warrior on BBI. It must literally be hell.
>>329897275
But, DD does have the best combat of those games shown, I don't even like it that much, but combat is leagues ahead of those other 2.
>rpg
>gets good
kek
>>329897468
Explain how
>>329897514
Weight and feedback. Skyrim is cutting through air, darksouls has some feedback, but it just feels like cutting butter. DD gives you that weight.
>>329894772
Late game in DD isn't really well optimized for a melee class.
Fighting the Ur Dragon with a greatsword only and some retarded magician pawns was such fucking monstrous bullshit.
>>329892326
It's awesome from the beginning. And, even if the guys spouting "it gets good at gran soren!" were good, it would only mean that the game gets good after the first 25 minutes.
>>329897669
>feedback
Most enemies in DD don't even react to getting hit, the bigger ones have this problem and are massive damage sponges, ogres for example
>>329896565
>Did you get savage/indomitable lash and arc of might/deliverance?
Yes I got most of those (I can't remember which), but not all of them.
Still don't get what is so good about this game, maybe it's not my thing.
>>329893486
Confirmed for fucking troll or a turbo retard.
The gameplay is fucking perfect on this game, only warrior is meh, go play FPS you fucking dudebro piece of shit.
>>329892664
An intelligent and respectful reply on /v/... what the fuck bizarro world did I wake up in
>>329897908
Watch that webm. Go watch a video, play it. It's the same in Monster Hunter, if you know shit about this stuff, you shouldn't have any problem agreeing.
>>329898045
>y-you haven't played it
I finished it and BBI twice, the player is clearly overleveled in that webm
>>329897908
This.
Let's not forget that the webm shows one skill from Dragon's Dogma and simple attacks from the other games.
>>329897449
Oh
so THATS why I wasnt having any fun
>>329892664
>The gameplay is fantastic
Care to explain? I played it, but I really don't get what is so fantastic in the game.
Dragon's Dogma is the definition of 'almost but not quite'
-The pawn system is a cool idea, but you end up escorting 3 retarded NPCs who really don't do all that much
-The story is interesting at times, but it's so weirdly paced and told that it never feels engaging
-The open-world roaming seems cool at first but it's nothing more than the same wolf/harpie/saurien encounters mixed in with an ogre or chimera here and there. There's nothing to explore, there's a handful of locations to go to but they're not worth revisiting after the story
-The combat doesn't know what it wants to do; it's too fast to have the weighted feel of CQC and the ranged options (bow/magic) are tedious at best. Neither does it really have any combo feel to it like a general action-game (say DMC) has. There's very little strategy or skill involved in the combat and outside of picking the obvious best skills it doesn't reward experimentation either
-No mechanical depth. Gearing up your character requires zero thought and consideration. Only 2 offensive stats. Stuff like resistance doesn't ever matter because you just end up wearing the best dmg/def gear and popping curatives to heal any negative buffs instead of adapting your character for a specific challenge
My entire time playing this game was waiting for that one moment that made me go 'this game is amazing' but it never came. Climbing a beast for the 50th time and fighting the camera gets very tedious. Grigori and his final fight were pretty cool but then you get thrown into a shit dungeon like the Everfall and the game just outstays its welcome. I was really looking forward to BBI, but it felt incredibly uninspired; recycled areas with annoying enemies that you have to farm...so you can farm it at a higher difficulty. Ur-Dragon is essentially 'QTE down a heart' times 12 only to see a health bar move an inch.
I glad I got to play it, but really not as amazing as people make it out to be.
>>329899012
This, people only liked the game because of the cool looking attack animations and spectacle.
No idea.
It's boring as fuck.
I've been playing it lately and all the enemies are damage sponges, and if I go anywhere except the starting area I get my ass kicked, especially at night
>>329899012
Gonna agree with this
>>329892326
Assassin is the best class for fun
>>329899289
Aw man but dude, it gets REALLY good after the 30th hour of play.
You're not giving it a chance man.
>>329899725
nah, assassin is best class for winning, best class for fun is magic archer
>>329899779
Assassin is best for both, MA is just standing back watching laser beams until target is dead
>>329899734
Yeah, it gets good after you beat the final boss
>>329899012
This.
Do i have to fuck around with these pawns? i just made my shitty pawn and i didnt know he sticks with you. he's hell of a mess
>>329901704
Yes.
>>329899012
I need to add:
-You're limited to 3~6 skills
-Getting new weapons or armors will just raise your defense/attack, not give new moves, techniques or effects
-Endless fights against wolves/dire-wolves, harpies/snow harpies, goblin/hobgoblin, giant enemies you can climb/flying enemies, etc
-Thousands of quests that are: kill a X amount of Y enemies
-Limited to one save file
I could go all day. This game could be amazing, but it's just a 5/10.
Monster Hunter did the same thing, but much better, 10 years ago and the first Dark Souls is miles ahead than everything Dragon's Dogma tried to be.
>>329896317
but this webm doesnt show the 30 seconds of standing still that it takes to charge up arc.
>>329896317
What's the point of this?
The three look awful.
>>329896554
warriors are the only ones who can wield greatswords so yes
>>329902754
there are augments that reduce the time needed to charge
You didn't let that cocksucker get away, did you?I admit, for my first playthrough I let him go so I could get that sweet sweet Rapier
>>329904371
i didn't know that you could interfere with the fight until someone told me about it
>>329892326
>warrior
WRONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LP5k9D6gCog
>>329904641
I only got into the game for the sake of Not!Casca, and when that prick pulled out that huge fucking mace I plugged him with a few magic arrows
