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VNSL Finals - Revival of Brood War
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twitch tv / gsl

Starts in 50 minutes.

Bisu vs EffOrt, best of 5.

For those of you in the dark, BW has been making a comeback in Korea for a while now, but this is the first English-casted finals in years (featuring pictured goofballs). If viewership is high enough tonight, it could become a regular thing. I know some of you remember the glory days.

MAKE BROOD WAR GREAT AGAIN
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>>324939654
The glory days didn't have that faggot on the left.
God I miss late nights watching GomTV with /v/.
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>>324939972
I miss hearing SDM talk about the benefits of monkey milk compared to cow milk during hour-long games too.
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For those of you interested in the narrative, just recently Bisu faced off against streaming personality Terror (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbcPKaCSw7k) in a best of five match. Loser shaves their eyebrows. Obviously Terror wouldn't win in a normal match, so he was granted maphacks. What Bisu didn't count on was EffOrt coaching at Terror's side. He was defeated and as a result, any eyebrows you see tonight will be painted on.
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>>324940063
SDM was based as fuck.
Remember when they tried to pair Tasteless with that female commentator who literally had no clue what was going on at any point in time, though? Shit sucked. You could tell that he had to try really hard sometimes not to tell her to fuck off.
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>>324939972
Artosis at the very least has good game knowledge. Give it a chance, their cast of the EffOrt vs ZerO semis was great.
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wait, is this a ruse?
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>>324940262
Yeah, lil susie. She works in the esports scene now I think doing interviews with Koreans.

She was pretty bad as a caster.
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>>324940396
No, it's real. 30 minutes now. Tell your friends.
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>>324940286
Eh. I'd rather have me some old school Day9 as color commentary next to Tasteless.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKbckGc9KAw
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>>324940514
yeah, its 1 30 in the morning
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G E T

F U C K I N G

H Y P E
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Speaking of English casting, why is sc2 casting so bad? Quality neckbeards like Klazart, moletrap and Diggity basically did good casts from their mom's basements during the BW era.
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Attention to all the people from the sc2 general, please off yourselves, you k-shit homo cucks.
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>>324939654
Oh shit, OP here, pretty sure the finals aren't being broadcast on GSL's channel. Actual stream link:

http://afreeca.tv/NSL2
http://afreeca.tv/NSL2
http://afreeca.tv/NSL2
http://afreeca.tv/NSL2
http://afreeca.tv/NSL2
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>>324940773

Because these days "casting" is all about creating le ebin hype, instead of providing game commentary and analysis.
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>>324940841
Noticed that too.
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>>324940783

Chill, mate. They will be broadcasted on both.
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Before LotV hit I was really close to switching back to BW, I even played some games on ICC to get into the feel again, but right now I really like LotV. Once they finally patch the dumb shit it will be by far the best iteration of SC2.
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>>324941052
I agree but hope for a glorious coexistence between the two games in the future.
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>>324941164
Legit
Probably the two most difficult competitive videogames ever
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RIP Bisu's eyebrows
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>>324941232
eh, I will always be more partial to rome 1 and homeworld, but yeah, SC1 was the epitome of competitive videogames.

twitch chat is autism
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>>324941164

Tastless worded it well when he said that if you love one of of them you'd love the other too if you got into it.

In other words, vets should come back for LotV and newcomers should give BW a shot.
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>>324941332
Getting into BW is pretty difficult for a newcomer though, even just setting up Fish/ICC can be difficult for tech illiterate retards
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Here's TL's finals preview:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/502676-vnsl-finals-preview-modern-renaissance

Informative for those of you who have fallen out of the loop.
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>26 posts
>6 IPs

lol dead game
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would you?
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>>324941573
Are you implying that people have ever talked about BW on /v/?
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>>324941619
nah, that will turn me gay
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>>324941635
In 2007 BW was /v/'s premiere late night entertainment.
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>>324941619
No. I prefer men.
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>>324941483

Fish maybe, but ICC is pretty easy.

>Download game.
>Download mca64.
>Make account.
>Join games.
>Play.
>Get sloppily BBS'd by a D- fag.
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Is the tourney still going?
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>>324941730
It's starting in ten minutes.
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>>324941710
That's surprising, I remember back then proleague livestreams would get maybe 500 viewers max on a good day.
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here we go lads 7 odd minutes to go
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>>324941635
Fucking newfag.
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>>324941573

>le SC2/BW is ded gaem may may

Epic post, Anon. Now go fuck yourself.
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>>324941573
do you hate fun?
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>>324942038
where do you think we are?
can't wait for new /v/ to say how BW is shit.
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FIVE MINUTES

GET IN HERE, GET COMFY

AND GET HYPE
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How much harder are the Starcraft games compared to other esport games like DotA or CSGO?
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>>324941985
Are you the original Woongjin image macro guy from TL?
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>>324941895
Back then, that was a lot of viewers for something like this.
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>>324942157
already am, listening to homeworld and blizzard soundtracks
>>324942198
a different level.
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>>324942198
Very. I was C+/B- on ICCup a long time ago. Hardest game I ever played. Currently GE on CSGO and 5.6k MMR on Dota2.
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>>324941262
ahahahahaha
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>>324942223

No, but I have a fuckhuge Starcraft folder.
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>>324941985
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>>324941262
JUST
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30 SECONDS
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>>324942314
I only ever managed to get C- on ICCup and I considered it an accomplishment.
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HERE WE GO BOYS
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ooh

its.. real.

ww
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>>324942494
Yeah. I really like trying hard in the games I play especially those that can played competitively. I remember playing hours of BW just so I could reach C+ on ICCup. Like upwards of 12 hours mastering builds.
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>>324942198

Top tier Starcraft players have more APM than an average Moba team combined. And that's not an exaggeration.
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JUST
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Is there a link to the korean only stream?
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>>324942694
fuck off gook
try afreeka
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why don't the japs like SC as much as the koreans?
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>>324942694
http://play.afreeca.com/afstar1
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>>324942595
It took an autistic amount of practice just to master build orders with a timer so you could get everything down to the second.
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>our guy JP stopped doing state of the game years ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTjgCdYxDQ
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>>324942781
Since when do Japs play any PC games? Other than VNs.
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>>324942781
>>324942781
because they are productive people you little weebshit
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>>324942198
starcraft is much, much harder to master and offers wayyyyy more strats when you did master the race you're playing. which is logical since you don't control 1 unit but a whole bunch of them
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>>324942781
Japs can't into PC games

>>324942859
No. It is no different from practicing a musical instrument. How is it autistic? Hard work is autistic now?
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>>324941573
dedga.me
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>>324941784
Oh shit. Party time.
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>big nose
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>>324942891
What is the current meta for ZvP?
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>>324942806
Thanks

>>324942770
>I'm a gook because I would rather listen to the unbridled excitement of a Korean than the tired ass commentary of Tasteless
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>>324943018
>tired commentary
>their second BW cast in six years
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Anybody know if this is 1 game, or best of 3, or what?
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>>324943018
>korean is excited
>can't understand a thing he says
>korean sounds like fingernails on chalkboard
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>>324943082
Bo5
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Anybody else playing SC2 actively? What league/rank are you?
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>>324943075
>>324943102
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>>324943082
it's in the OP lol
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>>324943153
I just watch games now.
I play CoH2 for my multiplayer fix
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>>324943153
Still diamond

Not playing anymore until TvP and TvT get fixed
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>>324943153
Started a month ago, I'm plat right now, aiming for diamond before the season ends
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>>324943153
I gave up on SC2 at the end of WoL.
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>>324943013
no idea, i stopped playing years ago
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>>324943153
Semiactively I guess. I'm in gold league and I mostly play once every couple of days to clean up the bonus pool. I kinda want to play more but I simply don't have time.
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>>324943153

Dunno SC2 leagues. What is that? Are you good?
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>>324943013
sc1 or 2?
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>>324939654
When you say comeback in Korea, do you mean people started to remember that Korea never stopped playing it?
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>>324943365
BW
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>>324943365

The answer is Lurkers either way. :^)
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>>324943153
Stop playing in WoL when they started nerfing Zergs for no reason. Highest was ML.
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>>324943420
>lurkers are just around the corner just to rape your dragoons
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>>324943414
Still 5 hat hydra
Compared to the end of the KeSPA scene, there's less 3 hatch allins and more muta play
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>those suits
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>>324943514
we esports now
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Holy shit, when did Tasteless grow a beard?
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>Tasteless's big lumberjack rapist beard

What a time to be alive
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>>324943514

>That facial hair

Damn, he needs to trim it a bit, but it looks really nice.
Makes me wish I could grow some :(
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>>324943514
>that beard

Can never understand how people can put on a nice suit, gel their hair and then think "yea, better not trim the beard at all, that's a good look"
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>>324943349

That is pretty high Masters. He should be in the top ~1k worldwide. So preddy gud.
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>>324943398
No, as in a lot of the talent sucked up by SC2 is slowly trickling back into BW. Take EffOrt for instance, who had been playing SC2 up until last year.
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>>324943153

first season playing again since wol and in high diamond. decent winrate vs diamonds but most times i queue into masters i lose which can get frustrating. really enjoying it though.
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>best player in bw?
time is ripe for cheating scandal
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wtf happened to this guy
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>>324943773

He grew up, maybe you should too
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>korea time with tastosis thread
i've missed this
i've never really watched brood war tho
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>>324939654
is... is this real life? what's the meta like now? the last thing i knew was from 2011
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I liike this remix of Daft Punk.

Anyone know the name of this remix?
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>>324943840
I know your feel bro. I'm still in shock. I just finished cranking it out to some h I saved yesterday and opened /v/ one last time before bed.

My god man.
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>>324943765
>tfw not allowed to say savior is my favourite player anymore

Sure, he pulled a dickmove, but that doesn't change that he's THE most interesting player to watch in BW history
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>that sweater tho
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Where my terrans at? Late game terran makes my dick hard.
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>>324943826
Me too, I look forward to the future of BW
Korea time for life.
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>>324943954
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A L I V E
L
I
V
E
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>>324943954
Yeah, literally the only player ever to destroy a whole esport
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What made Effort and Bisu leave SC2?
Is SC2 officially dead?
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>>324943954
>he's THE most interesting player to watch in BW history

That is literally not BoxeR, or even MarineKing you plebbaterian
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>>324943973
>getting the dick from broodlords makes you hard
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>Pressing P to build Probes and Pylons
Oh god. The PTSD is coming back.
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>>324944041
Bisu was shit at SC2 and needed to plan for military soon anyways
Not sure about Effort but he was actually a top SC2 zerg for a very brief period
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holy shit they are playing starcraft 1

awesome
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>>324944074

Boxer cant play anymore. Pain in his hands killed that dream.
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BEEP


BEEP


BEEP


BEEP
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>that BW lobby countdown and loading screen

oh man

we fucking cozy now
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>>324944074
BoxeR is fun, but the pure genius of SaviOrs play can't be matched
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>No 3 2 1 countdown
Come on. One job. One fucking job.
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>>324944041

Bisu never switched and Effort is one of the few players who went back to BW.

SC2 has been "ded" for 4 years now, but there are still high quality tourneys all around and 300k people playing 1v1 ladder this season.
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>This soundtrack

Oh man, how much I missed this music and the old UI

;_;
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FIRST SCOUT

SHITS GONNA GET TENSE FAST
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>>324944074
Boxer is shit. He lived in a time where macro hasn't been invented. The best games ever was macro/micro based.
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>>324939654

Thank you for the tip anon
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>tfw I got to B- on the back of 9 hatch 9 gas 9 pool speedling into lurkers rushes
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why does twitch say they are playing sc2?

they would get 3x as many viewers if it correctly said brood war
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>>324944136
he left it all on the keyboard, you gotta respect that

>>324944264
well theres the dumbest statement I have read in a fortnight


also
>this ling harass
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CORSAIRS COOMIN FAST
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>>324944027
SC2 had more viewers than this before streaming became mainstream

ayy lmao
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>>324944359
>autismking
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>>324944428
>well theres the dumbest statement I have read in a fortnight

Wah wah wah my micro. He got shit on by gorilla face and dropped off the face of SCBW.
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>>324944439
IT IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE
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FUCK I missed the start
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>>324944546

Dont worry, it just started.

Only 4 lots died so far
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...bisu?
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>>324944478
>all this salt over the GOAT

stay mad

>>324944546
theres been nothing but zome zerglings and zealots so far m8
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Effort is styling on Bisu right now.
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>DT corsair build
What the fuck is this? 2007?
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that immaculate probe micro under duress
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No way he holds this.
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>>324944657
>implying all metas arent cyclical
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>>324944657
this is the "lose 5 zealots for no reason" build from 2016
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>>324944609
He was a GOAT in a unrefined period of BW. Move him to the prime period of BW and he won't even be in the top 20 of the best players.
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LURKER
LURKER
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effort is making bisu look like a scrub damn
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>>324944090
>tfw you're a fan of humanity struggling for survival against an overwhelming alien menace
Also it's Ultralisks nowadays. I mean Brood Lords are still there but they come around way later.
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>Lurkers
It is fucking over already. Protoss needs a good scrabs bomb but I am not sure what is the current PvZ meta like.
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>>324944756

I wanna see you play when you start sweating and your painted on eyebrows get into your eyes, mate.
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SNIPED
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>mfw hold position lurker micro
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BTFO
T
F
O
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DEM HOLD POSITION LURKERS
God i fucking miss bw
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10k viewers now

For fucking BW

Amazing
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BISUS MACRO IS FUCKING CRAZY.
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>>324944993

lol dont kid yourself gramps

lol gets 300k every day
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>>324945067
Literally irrelevant how high numbers LoL gets

It's impressive that BW, an 18 years old game is getting 10k on the english cast
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Survival lurker.
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this takes me back to the old days watching sc2 tournaments in the GOM tv player
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HOLY SHIT I HAVENT HEARD DAY9 IN YEARS. IS HE STIL AROUND
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>>324945067
Who the fuck cares about LoL aka the viewbot game with fucking casual babbies
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dem lings
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>>324944993
SC2 sucks man, a lot of us fucked off when it took over

or at least I did
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>tfw I remember watching a brood war match with /v/ commentated by tasteless back in 2007
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>BW revival

I'm basically all dick right now.
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>>324945067
>BW
>a game older than you
>only played in one country on earth: Korea
>10k views on an English stream
fuck off
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BISU IS A MAD MAN
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>fuck toss just as a rule
>but kind of want Bisu to find a way with how hes holding this
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Ded spire
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>>324945197
SC2 is pretty awesome now in lotv, both games are fantastic and it makes me really happy that both games are alive and well for the moment
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this is why BW is a much better game

theres actually tension in games
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HWAITING
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GEEEGEEEEEEEEE
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>>324945365
Bisu needs a 5th base soon. His main is mined out. If he doesn't break the contain, the game is over.
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fuck
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Tilted at 4 zealots.
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>>324945378

Artosis said LotV is more like BW last time. Can you tell me why? Because I might wanna get into it.
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>>324945375
Protoss in BW is actually pretty Underpowered unless your APM is above 300 or you play Protoss favored maps
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>>324939654
my dick has never been harder after watching that first game
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>>324945067
and how many of those are actually people and not spambots
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best race
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Shit I forgot how good this game was, now I remember why I stayed up til 4am every other night in high school
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>No deathball
>Action all the map
>Huge maps
I miss BW. Fuck SC2.
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>that kinda shitty play by both players
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>>324945302
Also the game isn't subsidized. It's organic growth.
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This...cannot be real...is this a dream?
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>that horde of zerg moving towards the protoss base.
gaming at its finest
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>>324945462
>hur dur balance in fucking broodwar

fuck them because they are fucking boring assholes you pansy
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>>324945523
Game 1 man. At least a couple more and I doubt Bisus going down in 3.
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>"Apologize for playing that race"

Guess the Broodwar player.
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>>324945461
Bases have fewer minerals per patch, forcing players to expand into half-map scenarios with higher frequency. Multi-pronged attacks/harassment is now the standard, and it feels a lot more like BW as a result. Also the new units are great. I especially like the Liberator, it's like a Valkyrie and a siege tank combined into one unit.
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>>324944756
>>324945523
>>324945457
apply yourselves
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4WAsWhQoCE
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>>324945515
LotV is pretty much just like this from what's been seen so far. Watch TY vs Patience from GSL code A a few days ago.
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>>324945549
Welcome back Commander

>>324945614
FUCK what was that angry nerds name. Shit.
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>>324945461
The economy has changed radicially, you start with 12 workers and mine out WAY faster, the result is that players need to take bases at a similar pace to BW (sometimes faster) which spreads the fighting out over the map a lot better and weakens the boring as shit turtle on 3 base type builds that were so popular during late wings and hots, the races also got a lot more tools with lotv that encourages different types of harrass and creative play. Macro mechanics also got weakened, encouraging micro.

The game is very interesting right now, and quite similar to BW with how there's constant action from a very early stage and often several fights going down at once.

We'll see how long it lasts though, SC2 pros are very coddled with the constant patching and prefer crying about balance rather than searching for a solution inside the game itself, so it's possible that blizzard ends up nerfing all the fun and interesting things, reducing the game to the bland and uninteresting crap it was in hots.
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>>324945462
I would say Zerg is the weakest. Outside of a few players, Zerg players were always crushed and the latter stages of BW was dominated by Ts and Ps. Heck I remember OSL and MSL having top 8 which lack a single Zerg.
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is http://afreeca.tv/NSL2 the only stream?
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>>324945515

Give LotV a shot, bro.
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>>324945461
There is less deathballing though still more than in BW

Also much more defender's advantage in all the matchups not involving protoss
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>>324945574
>boring
>reaver drops
>corsair DT requires you to micro really hard

Protoss basically forces you to multitask really hard, its much more dynamic than LE MARINE MEDIC DROPS
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>>324945614
mr angry man skinhead
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>>324945665
Idra
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>>324945708
List of streams here

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/502662-vnsl-finals-bisu-vs-effort
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>>324945708
Twitch gsl
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>>324945736
We should all pile into a custom lobby for some Strip Idra
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>>324945614
"Making carriers is a useful skill toi have"
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there's nothing more pathetic than the manchildren who obviously played broodwar as their first game

you're literally the wow community of rts
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>>324945708
GSL on twitch is doing an English cast.
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>>324945656
not really, the action in LotV is still focused on 1 spot, the drops are not as exciting because its really easy to deal with it relatively compared to BW where if you cant multitask, a multipronged drop will kill you outright
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Bisu gonna get 0-3 just like the SSL11 Finals vs Hero.
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>>324945720
>the two most exciting things you can come up with are shuttles and LE NINJA MAN XDDDD

prove my point harder holy shit
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>>324945820
Let me guess, total annihilation fan?
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>>324945818
>>324945665
>>324945725

Hey now, don't make me hallucinate a bunch of carriers and make you ragequit the game.
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>>324945820
>let me shitpost in a brood war thread of all places
really senpai?
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>>324945820
nope, playing since wc1
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>>324945798
>all those old faces in the thread
I feel so happy right now

>>324945876
eheheheheheheheh
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When does the Scarcraft start again?
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>>324945704
Zerg always had someone on the top and arguably 2 of the GOATs (maybe the GOAT if you prefer Savior over Flash)

Zerg always had July, Savior, Jaedong, Effort, etc (im pretty sure Im missing 3 or 4 who were always placing in top 3 during their era)
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>>324945845
Have you heard of a warp prism? I honestly disagree
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>>324945861
>>324945915
name one good thing about broodwar

90% of the people talk about the mechanics required to play it like a good thing
any game that was released with similar features today would be an absolute joke
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>>324946065
Watch this next match and I will show you a hundred.
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>>324946065
>reveals himself to be yet another scrub who never got past the mechanics skillfloor

Every single time

Go baitpost somewhere else
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>>324946065
its not balanced and designed by idiots
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>>324939654
Do they hate sc2 that much that they're going back to BW?
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>>324945972
45 seconds get ready for the beeps
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>>324946065
how's that A move working out for you?
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>>324946065
>hes mad that an entire nation didnt make his favorite rts its national sport

dude fuck off, im AoE ride or die but even I think you are el autismo grande
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>>324946065

How about the fact that every unit had a purpose and wasn't just a gimmick unit? Marines weren't the strongest unit in the terran arsenal for example.
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>>324946158
SC2 just upset everyone.

Death-balling ruined it. Toss players also really hate how its playing in SC2
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please tell me someone screencapped that sign
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>>324946112
>>324946114
>>324946137
>>324946173
>>324946183
only person who actually responded with a decent answer was >>324946191
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Fug i was too busy looking for my cd case to reinstall broodwar i missed the end i also just realized how much shit i bought during the years i'm literally sitting on a treasure of vidyas but my bank account is empty! anyays, who won?
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Why is everything in japanese? I can't read any of the signs.
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>>324946056
Jaedong, Effort were the only top 2 zergs when I still watched BW while Protoss had the 6 dragons and Terran had Flash aka probably the best SCBW of all time in his prime at BW prime.
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>>324946238
(You)

Now can we enjoy some video games?
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This makes me want to fucking kill myself I HATE THIS
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>>324946238
shut up bitch boy and eat your salt :^)
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>SC1

For what purpose?
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BW micro is fucking incredible
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>Bisu
2-0
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ARTOSIS PYLON
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BISU CHEESE
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BISO CAME TO FUCK BITCHES AND CHEW GUM
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GG
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>zell otts
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