>999 or VLR
>best girl?
>favorite song?
ZERO TIME DILEMMA HYPE
999
Clover > Phi > Lotus > rest
Morphogenetic Sorrow
Why do you need to put 'or' between them?
999
Luna
Morphogenetic Sorrow then Bluebird Lamentation
999
Akane (even though she's secretly a cunt)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xJSPwvhjL4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkTmE6zyW9Y
What are Akane's true motives?
In ZE1 I assumed it wasthe selfish desire to save herself. She had to set up the events of the second Nonary game in order to prevent a paradox.
Basically, why did she decideto save the world?Does she feel personally responsible in some way or is it just cliche altruism?
>>324350349
It's definitely not just pure altruism. I don't think we're supposed to know her full intentions, but at the very least you can understand why she wouldn't want tolive in a shitty world.
>>324350349
She's already a fugitive for kidnapping and killing someone in 999, so I guess she figured she might as well continue her kidnapping ways.
>>324348614
>tfw 3DS completely hacked
>can't bring myself to cancel pre-order because of how the game is barely getting made andthe watch
>>324350519
>why she wouldn't want to
That's completely understandable. It's just a long undertaking that at times required her todie a few times when Dio gives her a good shank. That's a lot of effort and devotion. In terms of altruism, I just wonder if it's partiallythe fact that she can see the different timelines thanks to the morphogenetic field and so she thinks she should use it "for good"
>>324350580
That's just a hobby of hers I guess. Though technically didAcekill everybody?
>>324350878
>That's just a hobby of hers I guess. Though technically did Ace kill everybody?
Ye good luck convincing the courts that when it was Akane that put the fucking bomb on the poor sod's wrist to begin with.
>>324351158
>Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, my client may have put a bomb in this man's stomach after kidnapping him and subjecting him to psychological trauma but was she the one who caused it to blow up?
>>324350878
She wants a happy life with Jumpy.
>>324348614
999
Phi
Morphogenetic Sorrow / That one that plays in 999 when you find a corpse
Also when is ZTD scheduled to come out?? APOLOGISE TO THE FUNYARINPA
>>324348614
999Santa/spoiler]
Morphogenetic sorrow
>>324348614
>best girl?
The purest and most moe one, of course.
>>324348614
Why the fuck do you create these threads at 2 in the morning?
>>324350726
You'd be an idiot to cancel your pre-order. The ZE series is not your average series. Pirate whatever but don't pirate the game that we almost didn't get.
>>324351638
Summer of this year I believeGoodness, you are such a rude woman.
>>324352037
I mean... in some of the timelines...
>>324352065
>Why the fuck do you create these threads at 2 in the morning?
I'm awake and felt an urge to talk about it.
>>324348614
>999
>Phi and Lotus
>Digital Root, Chill and Rigor, Demise, Sepentary Game
I am particular beyond excited for ZTD. I thought I'd hate this series because I didn't understand the love for VNs and now I'm hooked on them.
I wonder if Sigma(K)will be the main character, since he was shown (or someone that resembled him)in the current leak or if they will focus on Junpei again, Phi or someone different. I doubt the idea that it would reuse previous protagonists, but it is just speculation.
>>324352231
She is no longer pure or moe.
>>324348614
So... what was virtue's last reward?
>>324352323
I think it would be Phi, K, or a new character. I think it might have someBlink Winkelshenanigans.
>>324352539Death. Or a good ending.
http://www.siliconera.com/2012/03/14/the-thinking-behind-the-title-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward/#zKkHsprK3EEZM6yW.99
I love You
>>324352928
Wrong fucking game.
But whatever.
>>324352848
It is going to be some ridiculous shenanigans for sure. Maybe we can see Phiin a swinsuit?
>>324349636
GOAT song
>mfw 0:29
I can't help but groove every time
>>324353230
The test site is in the Nevada desert so maybePhi need to cool off and goes for a swim?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfoxtU-b9Zw
>>324353115Original You or You'Haru?
Who is better
Are they gonna tell us what happened with All-ice/Alice?
>>324354013
I thought Haru was original
999
Akane
Eternitybox
>>324354810
That's what I meant, my bad.
>>324355326
I want to marry You
>>324348614I like bothPicYou can't like only one
I preferred the story and atmosphere of 999 but the puzzles of VLR kicked ass.
Best girl Akane.you know what the best song is
What was everyone's first ending?
I got the coffin ending and that "To Be Continued..." drove me crazy. I was relieved to find out that was only a single ending.
>>324355808
I think my first was the sub ending. Fucking hell of a first ending to get.
>>324355808
I got the knife ending and i loved it, really caught me off guard
>yay, now junpei and akane can be happy together since we found the 9 door!
>but first, lemme just check out this elevator
>fug
>>324355808
Coffin ending
Kinda spoiled the surprise thatSanta was "kidnapping" Akanethough.
>>324355808
I got knife because MUH WAIFU.
>find 9 door
>oh shit we're going to get out fuck yeah ROUND UP THE GANG
>YO, OCTO TITS WHERE YOU AT GUR-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuCXb_AVoh4
>turn the corner and see Lotus dead, blood everywhere, body cold and lifeless
>Holy fucking shit
>get me the fuck outta h-
> . . .
> . . .
>>324355808
999
>Sub
VLR
>Dio
>>324355808
Knife I think. Hard to remember.
Dio, not counting bad endings
>>324356873
>>324357929
I don't really remember what ending I got for VLR because there were so many.
>>324358109
I only remember it was Dio because I was really disappointed they gave away the moon twist that early by making it so obvious for it
>>324358209
In what way?
For all you know you're in some desert.
The suits are to counter virus, you even see the Blood Moon that convinces you of the date. No way to know it's fucking Earth without getting other endings first.
What I hated about Dio ending is how after it I still couldn't bypass Who planted the bomb locks
>>324358516
Not the anon you replied to, but Dio's ending together with the blood moon article made me think that there's a very good chance we're on the moon.
Maybe it's because I play a lot of games like this but my first thought when seeing the blood moon article is that it's game is trying to make us think we aren't on the moon after seeing the red "moon" in Dio's ending when we actually are.
>>324358516
It looks nothing like a desert, and the fact you go through a depressurization chamber in suits that are blatantly not just hazmat/containment suits made it abundantly clear to me they were on the moon somehow or another.
All the talk of Radical 6 slowing down your sense of time and the hints Sigma and the others had it on the other routes I'd hit locks on just made me more sure since it'd explain the gravity difference.
Maybe I was just too used to Uchikoshi's style of twists after playing all his old games after 99, but I thought it was obvious right away even if I didn't know all the ins and outs of how it worked.
>>324359279
>depressurization chamber
But they explain that the facility has higher air pressure.
Seriously, if Dio's end was your first, than the Moon can only be a wild guess. Unless some other route convinced you, any evidence that it's the moon can be ruled out by some explanation.
>>324359279
Not really related but speaking of Radical-6, why does the time perception symptom only seem to noticably effect Sigma in the security room? Seems odd if he's supposed to be infected the whole time
>>324359612
There's a lot of plot holes involving Radical-6. Uchikoshi addressed someone of them the Q&A but for the rest the only answer is "because that's just the way shit happened"
>>324359568
Like I said, I already knew everyone in the facility had Radical-6 (making the quarantine stuff an obvious red herring) and the design of the outdoors plus the suits just didn't match up with what they supposedly were at all - the depressurization aspect of it just made me more certain they weren't on Earth.
>>324359612
Your guess is as good as mine desu.
>>324348614
VLR, but I need to replay them both to be sure
Phi
Chill and Rigor
Who do you think Brother is? Is it someone we have already directly met?
>>324360187
I'm certain Brother ain't a character we've met, since he was behind Ace and co. doing the first Nonary game and all the current cast either only got born way after it or were targeted by it
I'm betting we'll meet him in ZE3 though.
>>324359612
I believe that one is a proper fuck up that they left unexplained.
>>324360301
Sigma being his clone pretty much confirms we've never seen him
>>324360301
but with the time travel, especially with time travel that isn't just your mind, like Akane hinted at for Clover and Alice, I wouldn't be surprise if there's some shenanigans going on. I just don't know...
>>324360573
>Sigma being his clone
Do you mean Dio?
>>324360573
does it say/imply that Sigma is a clone anywhere?
>>324360574
While I feel that's still a possibility I just don't think there's anyone in the cast who would do it even then.
>>324360573
What?
>>324360573
>>324360628
Dio is Left's Clone (Brother's Brother)
>>324360573
>>324360713
As far as we know, Brother himself doesn't have a clone though right?
>>324360871
Yup.
>>324360713
I'm still kind of expecting it to turn out Left was actually a good guy and Brother's enemy, he just got cloned against his will after being killed.
It seems like something Uchikoshi might do.
>>324356578
Trepidation is the best song in the game.
>>324360628
>>324360638
>>324360692
Yeah, I just fucked it up, I meant Dio...
Still, chances are we'll see both. The cast of ZE3 is already packed.
Sigma, Phi and Diana are confrmed.
Junpei too, but he's probably not a participant.
Left/Brother or both, Akane have a high chance to appear.
I bet we'll get someone from second nonary game too, most likely Light.
That leaves little room to new characters.
>>324358783
>Maybe it's because I play a lot of games like this
>TV tropes
>genre savvy
Seriously, though, the exploitation of tropes in 999 & VLR is fucking masterful.
>>324361646
I don't know what a Tv Tropes is
>>324361782
Website. Google it and 'genre savvy'. Better yet, just look at its pages for VLR and 999. TV tropes is the fucking best. Addictive.
>>324361782
>>324362005
Prepare to spend the next week and a half going through it.
>>324362042
Yyyehp. I just spent the last two days trapped in cycles brought on by the 999 page. I love it, I just wish I could remember them all well enough to be able to pull out their hilarious names when I recognise them in media I'm watching.
The whole bit in VLR about Xnox's 10 commandments of mystery writing is pure TV Tropes. Gotta love Uchikoshi.
>>324362162
Knox's
>>324362162
>1. The criminal must be someone mentioned in the early parts of the story, but must not be anyone whose thoughts the reader has been allowed to follow.
>7. The detective must not, himself, commit the crime
Uchikoshi had himself a little giggle when he put that in the game
>>324362320
I bet he thinks he's so fucking smartHow the fuck they gonna send Clover and Lotus back
>>324348614
I felt like 999 had a stronger cast of characters and an overall better plot, but VLR comes off as more of a duology than a stand alone title. Hard mode's ending was fucking incredible though, so I think they both shine in different areas.
Luna.
Bluebird Lamentation. The build up from music box to orchestral is beautiful.
Am I the only one really hoping that the events of the next game aren't recreated history? I didn't mind it inVLR, but I feel like it'll be played out if we see it happen again. Akane said they're going into unexplored territory and it'll be disappointing if that doesn't hold true, at least in the sense that the person behind Radical 6's outbreak isn't trying to fulfill some time loop with another nonary game.I don't know how I'd feel if Santa or Brother are behind the events of ZTD. Was it ever mentioned what the former was doing during the events of the second game?
>>324355808
>sub, axe, knife, coffin, safe, true
Couldn't have asked for a better order.
VLR's was either Tenmyouji or a lock at the computer log in screen.
>>324362797
I don't thinkSantais ever brought up nor do I think he's behind the events of ZTD. The latter is more believable since it says an "unknown group" releases radical-6 so unless it's a twist thatCrash Keys or the company that Clover and Lotus work forare responsible then it's probably the work ofFree the Soul and Brother.
ZE3 is gonna have to be going through the real events and trying to change history because anything else would just be anticlimactic. We're saving the world here.
>>324363119
Please let it be this. Repeated history via elaborate setups is gay now.
My wish list is that the new game has a darker tone, gore again (the same amount as 999ish), traps, no repeated history, new characters, none of the "mass amnesia" bullshit, and an interesting thematic door set up like in 999 digital root theme and NOT like the coloured doors of VLR. And some characters who aren't all literally faking not knowing where they are the whole time. I hated that in VLR everyone wanted to be there was basically in on the whole scheme. We need more hopeless, terrified hostages, damnit!
>>324363505
Oh- also a lot less sci-fi Bs than VLR. I don't want magic slingshotting brains and robots and clones and moon bases and mystery viruses pouring out of nowhere. 999 had fantasy science, but it based so much of it on real events and conspiracy theories. One or two ass pulls like Morphogenetic field theory or a cool, tight story twist like Akane in the incinerator is great. Fifty thousand cybernetic virus robot clones on the moon exploding antimatter reactors with quantum computers while experienced slowed down time is just a runaway train of discordant ideas.
Please be more neat, ZTD.
>>324363042
My ending order was knife, axe, sub, safe, true and i thought it was great just because of how convinced it made me that Clover was the murderer.
>everyone looking for clover who has mysteriously disappeared, end up with a knife in the back
>Stay with Clover the whole time next run, end up with the axe ending which just reinforces what i think already
>Sub ending where I'm sure that the figure above you in the water is that crazy bitch
>my theory just gets trashed by the last two endings and I get really caught off guard by who the actual killer is
What a ride that was
At what point should I just stop coming by here considering the projected release date is in the summer and the fact that some autismo is probably working hours best efforts in order to get spoiler information from the game?
You cunts ruined danganronpa for me and I'll be dammed of you ruin zero escape
>>324363718Ace was the last person I was expecting holy shit. Especially when Santa was such a shady motherfucker the entire time.
>>324363710
You realize the slingshotting brains, mystery virus, at least one of the clones, and time travel are all guaranteed to be parts of ZE3 - yeah?
>>324363758
Stop visiting once it's released? Japan always gets it first so once it has a release there avoid the threads.
>>324363505
>>324363710
It has to be a real scenario this time, it just has to be. ZE1 was just to ensure there was no time paradox and to save Akane, ZE2 was for the purposes of training Phi and Sigma and setting up the time loop, and all of this is just the set up for the real deal: actually going back to the events of the Mars mission test site and preventing the actual spread of radical-6.
But I concur on less sci-fi shit.
>>324363758
The second review copies get sent out
>>324363898
I know right? He was one of my favourites, i wasn't expecting it at all
>>324363947
West is getting it simultaneously because Aksys is funding it
>>324363710
The only thing that really got my gab in VLR wasspace travel. I can handlerobots, anti-matter reactors, viruses, and clones, but the way they got to the moon felt like it was handled poorly. Them being on the moon itself isn't my problem, but just "btw we hopped on a spaceship" felt half assed.
At the same time though, space travel is possible right now so maybe I'm just out of touch with the technology of today.
>>324364062
Sweet. Glad it's not gonna be like VLR have seven months between the international releases.
>>324364191
I just feel that if there's that much junk in earths atmosphere it must have been hell to safely launch anything into space
>>324364191
Nah you are right it's total bs a pair of garbage collectors can get to space in a post-post-apocalypse.
I don't think the game even said Crash Keys set it up.
>>324364191
>>324364357
There were 54 rhizomes on the moon, which meant space travel had to be available for awhile before then. Somehow Akane also secured funds for the whole facility and everything in it, so seeing they have their own private spaceship doesn't seem too far-fetched.
>>324365323
Akane also was well aware of the impending disaster and so could have been more aptly prepared for traversing through the shit atmosphere.
