Post your thoughts on the game so far
Cons
Damage-sponge enemies
Grab/climb mechanic never used in an interesting way - no challenge, just go to their weak spot, press attack and use a stamina recovery item
Dependent on retarded AI pawns
Boring open world traversal - not enough alternate routes, enemies spawn in the same place each time
Empty open world
Boring settting/world
Worst story pacing of all time
General presentation
Pros
Combat - animations, spectacle of fighting huge monsters, amazing amount of customization
Immersion/sense of adventure
what's with all the threads about this old game all fo a sudden?
>>324254636
Did you really miss that it just came out?
>>324254836
???
it came out years ago
>>324254932
What are you talking about?
Cons
>Damage-sponge enemies
You're shit
>Grab/climb mechanic never used in an interesting way - no challenge, just go to their weak spot, press attack and use a stamina recovery item
True but it's still x10 more fun than constantly whacking a huge monsters foot
>Dependent on retarded AI pawns
It's doable solo plus if your pawns are retarded that's your fault
>Boring open world traversal - not enough alternate routes, enemies spawn in the same place each time
Agreed gets better when you get more port crystals
>Empty open world
No
>Boring settting/world
No
>Worst story pacing of all time
meh
>>324254932
This is bait. Check Steam you chucklefuck
>>324255265
it's called shit posting
he's pretending he doesn't know about the PC release
>>324255345
>You're shit
Nope, I've only died once and I'm at the quest where you help mercedes. Some enemies are tedious to fight because you can barely damage them.
>It's doable solo
Who actually plays the game solo? There's only one class it's viable with and the game is not balanced around doing that
> if your pawns are retarded that's your fault
Game doesn't really explain inclinations so most pawns you hire are going to be stupid. They're dumb even with the right inclination
>No
One interesting thing you can find
>No
It's generic as fuck
>>324254518
ITT >cons: it's not dark souls
It's a perfect example of why just because you can make an open world game doesn't mean you should make an open world game.
>>324254518
Who /normalfag+loli/ here?
I waited a while for this and was pretty hyped it came to PC after people talking about it for years on here. Preordered on GMG and played the pirate version about 10 hours this week.
>run 50 feet
>get winded
>walk and wait for meter to fill
>run 50 feet
>try to time it so you don't get winded
>see goblins
>"they're weak to fire AND ice"
>spam meter attacks
>"they're weak to fire AND ice"
>spam meter attacks
>run 50 feet
>get winded
>poorly written dialogue in poorly acted cutmeme
D R O P P E D
This is the game you've been talking up for fucking years? This game? This fucking game?
How can a website of so many people have such terrible taste across the board? Guess it's back to 3ds piracy until XCOM 2 hits.
>>324254518
Pretty much agreed on all points. It's not a terrible game, but I just can't see what all the hype was about.
And the ye olde english. God I hate ye olde english.
STRENGHT IN NUMBERS ARISEN
>>324258257
>You will never be a militant shitposter
>>324258739
I can't see aught wrong with it.
>>324254518
>Damage-sponge enemies
This is so true. Regularly i find enemy mages who can take like forever to kill just because muh difficulty.
i wish they would have given story and setting a bit more love. games fun and all but just walking from one fight to the next without any real interesting reason to do so starts becoming a bit boring, also since there seems to be hardly any interesting loot. ill keep playin, its fun, but some people here unironicly calling it the best RPG of the last decade is a bit ridiculous. its hardly an RPG at all.
>>324259607
Are you still using a rusted sword?
Even at low levels you can kill mages pretty quickly. Unless "taking forever" means "Taking more than 4 hits".
I'll agree the Ogres at lower levels are pretty spongy, though.
>>324254518
>stamina is a shit mechanic that boils down to keeping a lot of consumables or suffering down times
>even worse during climbing
>weapons and skills get kinda boring at times with melee vocations
>skills are a bad mechanic, 3 are far too few
>could use some advanced movement/evasive mechanics that aren't bound to skill slots
>combat a bit too slow
>base game gets kinda easy and boring
>augment system promotes too much grind
Now the good things
>BBI fucks your shit up
>climbing and stabbing is fun
>throwing people
>character customization
>pawn gimmicks
>story was pretty good
>BBI final boss fight had some good music
>damage sponge enemies
how to spot the people who do not know how to play the game
>>324259118
The only reason it's a top seller is because of console shitposting thinking this game is 10/10
>want to start Lost and Found
>been down to the everfall but havent completed the quest because i havent talked to the guy yet
>still cant get Lost and Found to start
Epic
>>324260459
10/10 is a ridiculous stretch. People like what they like. Look at Undertale's success. 94% of PC owners say it's great. Consolefags do not influence the opinions of PC players.
I hate that it has quests that you only have a small window to pick up and complete, basically means you HAVE to follow a strategy guide to do all the quests or risk missing out on a bunch of shit.
It's no Dark Souls. It's more like a non-mmo version of Black Desert.
6/10 I look forward to some of the huge dungeons I've heard about like bitterblack isle. So far my experience has been all quest focused with sparse combat and I look forward to getting into some actual pure combat focused content.
>>324254518
The game has some nice idea, but it just doesn't make any use of it.
Height/Weight for example. I played a loli an there was absolutely never any part were I had to go some other way because I couldn't grab a ledge. Likewise there was like one part where I profited from my short height, but there was absolutely nothing down there. The fact that the lantern extinguishes sooner is completely irrelevant as well.
There's also too few monster types. There's like, what?, 3-4 enemy types you can scale? Cyclops, Griffon, Chimera, Dragon. That's pretty damn boring after a while, honestly.
The world is pretty damn boring as well. It's not as huge (which is good) but you still have tons of walking. And most importantly it's always some green forest-y area, which some rare clips thrown into it. Where's is snowy regions? Where is steps? And so on.
Pro are the abilities and magicks. It let's you do some really crazy looking anime shit and the magic is simply one of the best (visually and per effect) in any vidya ever.
>>324255345
Kill yourself all his points were valid complains.
In MH having bullet sponges enemies is justified because the game is designed around it.
In DD, where the enemies are immobile and do the same 3 attacks over and over, it's not.
>>324258257
it has a very dedicated and delusional fanbase especially on /v/ where any underrated game is automatically the best game evur.
>>324263182
>Monster Hunter
What does this have to do with Dragon's Dogma?
>>324254518
>Grab/climb mechanic never used in an interesting way
I see this complaint all the time, and I'm curious. How exactly would you change the climb mechanic to make it "interesting"?
Not saying your criticism isn't valid, but I honestly don't see what else can be done with climbing over a giant monster that isn't
>climb to reach weak spot
>avoid monsters attempts to throw you off/grab you
>>324263351
Is your ADHD really so damn strong you only can read 10 words before your brain gives out?
His post pretty damn well explains why he mentioned MH.
>>324261978
>94% of PC owners
You mean that 94% of all statistics are made up.
>>324263182
>damage sponges
stop being shit
or stop playing hard mode
game only has damage sponges on hard mode because hard mode was really badly designed: Enemies are really hard to stagger, have more health, and your stamina drains faster.
>>324263351
Because of the bulletsponges enemies???
>>324263593
I felt bad when I abandoned hard mode but jesus I kept getting 1-shot by fucking everything.
>>324263535
>Talking about DD
>Mentions Monster Hunter justified sponge enemies to prove a point that they aren't justified in DD
You should probably learn some logic.
>>324263593
>stop being shit
>git gud XDDD
Are you implying this game is hard in any way? LOL
It's just fucking tedious to fight the biggest creatures.
>>324263924
Okay then. This is you if the health pools were lower.
>Hear about how dangerous Trolls are
>Go fight one
>End up killing it in one hit
>WOOOOW Fights are boring and too easy! They need more health!
>>324263446
They need to make be more creative with where the weak points are, or make actually getting on to the enemy more interesting. Rip off SotC for ideas. Give the player more interesting ways to climb , give the opportunity to dodge attacks while you're climbing (they can just brush you off and you aren't mobile enough to do anything about it).
Most important thing is to take away all the stamina regen items, or make unavailable while climbing, since all fights become trivial when you can just hang on forever and keep pressing square to win.
>>324264125
>what is balancing
>>324259989
>>skills are a bad mechanic, 3 are far too few
compared to what? most other games similar to DD don't even have skills, you just spend the entire game with the exact same moveset
>>stamina is a shit mechanic that boils down to keeping a lot of consumables or suffering down times
it's really not fucking hard to manage it, you don't have to fucking spam skills at all times. Get the strider augment that halves stamina consumption when climbing. I can climb all day, and almost never run out of stamina unless I'm spamming skills like a retard. You have core skills for a reason, use them. Also, if you are a fuckhuge arisen you get tired faster when you climb.
>weapons and skills get kinda boring at times with melee vocations
Have to disagree. Once you get to vocation level 5-6 with any melee vocation, the skills unlocked are pretty great on all cases.
>base game gets kinda easy and boring
agreed. Game makes you outlevel content far too quickly
>augment system promotes too much grind
I don't know, most of the time you can unlock the shit you want just by playing the class a bit, it's getting your preferred class to max rank and grabbing all the ultimate skills that requires a lot of grind.
>>324263872
Jesus Christ, you're dumb.
Comparisons are a legit way to justify something like that.
Asking which is better, MH or DD, THAT would be dumb and illogical, because they're trying to do different stuff.
Comparing them by saying why one thing is good in game A while it's bad in game B is ok.
I was actually giving you the benefit of having ADHD, but it seems you're simply a fucking moron.
>>324264125
Hum there is indeed not a single solution to this problem, because lowering their infinite health bar would automatically make them killable in one hit.
*sigh* you proved your point well indeed
>>324263872
>giving examples to elaborate something is bad
Kill yourself.
>>324263924
You're the one saying the enemies are damage sponges.
When I say "stop being shit" I don't mean "git gud" I mean learn how the fucking game works. If you're doing low damage to enemies, you're either:
low level
using shit equipment
fighting them wrong
When your pawn screams "CUT THEIR TAILS" or " 'TIS WEAK TO ICE AND FIRE BOTH" he's not just being a retard, he's telling you the most effective way to kill the enemy.
>>324264314
I've seen this post but it seems it already has a fair amount of (You)s. Thanks anyways.
>>324264306
>Comparison is legit
Not particularly. They have similarities but don't have the same focus.
Ad hominem is not a valid way to discuss your opinion. It makes you look like an idiot.
Even if it was re-released, the fact people want to discuss an old game as if there pro's and con's matter, is laughable.
>>324262661
Depends on what you consider a type. Other large enemies include Ogres, Golems, Garms, Hydras, Cockatrices, that Evil Eye boss and Death. Though some are quite rare, and/or only show up in BBI/Everfall.
The only spongy enemies I've come across are the ogres, and I'm about 8 hours in.
Pawn AI is as good as you make it; I haven't had any problems with it.
The open world is somewhat poorly utilized, but it's better done than, say, MGSV or TW3.
The setting is serviceable.
Story pacing is indeed fucking terrible, though, and the questing system is awkward.
It's a solid 7/10 thus far. Not great for conventional roleplaying, but fun to fuck around in, explore, and just do shit.
>>324254636
Because it just got released on PC. It's the top meme game now. Expect it to die off in about a week after people realize that once you scratch that new surface off this game is pretty terrible.
>>324264558
Thank you for the advice.
But I've completed this game 3 times (including BI) already.
And yeah some creatures are a fucking chore to kill. No matter how hard you defend it, the novelty of these fights wears of quickly and I enjoy way more fighting the smaller monsters.
I sometimes wish DD wasn't so unfinished. Would have been great to fight creatures that actually moved across the world, and these large healthbars would actually make sense.
>>324254518
>Pros
Aught
Aught
>Cons
Aught
Aught
Aught
Aught
>>324254836
>Still stuck in 2012
>>324264684
Why? A lot of people are playing it for the first time thanks to the PC release and their pros and cons are as valid.
>>324256401
Pawns are actually more than just their inclinations. They copy your behavior as well and what abilities you use. It's a pretty deep system.
Overall, I think the game is amazing, despite some of its flaws. One of the best games I've played in a years. It seems like a some people put the game down before getting very far though, which is sad. The combat is pretty top notch once you get the hang of it.
The only real complaint I have is that warriors only get three ability slots and there's only one save file. I can see why they only allowed one file though.
I wish the game let you change your set skills anywhere and not just at the inn. Only being able to use 3/6 at once really isn't much.
There are a lot of skills/spells that are fun to use but only useful in certain situations so it's not worth keeping them equipped in-place of a more powerful ability.
>>324264886
You've beat the main story and both BBI runs 3 times over?
And you still don't know how to circumvent enemies with that much health?
>>324264886
I've beaten the game back in the ps3 too and I really can't see how anything is a damage sponge in normal mode when you're super high level, got good equipment and you know their weaknesses.
If an enemy feels like it's spongy then you're likely just not at the right level. Ogres felt like a bitch when I was at level 14 but became a lot better once I was past level 20
>>324262661
>Where's is snowy regions? Where is steps? And so on.
Right there buddy :^)
>>324265201
I'll forever be sad that we can't go to the moon
>>324265178
>I don't see how anything is a damage sponge once I'm overleveled
>>324265201
this explains why the game feels so half assed and shitty, it's like the only system they managed to finish was the combat
>>324264735
>Pawn AI is as good as you make it
I've lost count of how many times a pawn would shout 'Tis weak to fire' and then buff my weapon with electricity or something else
I love the game except
>short as fuck, seriously why is it so fucking short?
>damage sponge enemies
>backtrack galore even with portcrystals everywhere it makes it a chore
>>324254518
>Grab/climb mechanic never used in an interesting way - no challenge, just go to their weak spot, press attack and use a stamina recovery item
wasnt there a video detailing this and how it could have been better?
>>324265020
>I can see why they only allowed one file though.
Why?
How do you deal with ogres? The first time I encountered one I it ran right off the spire and died. They tank a lot of damage and go crazy out whenever they get below X hp. I see that you can get them to flop on their back and stagger, but even with the pawns helping to hold them down they just get up. Apparently you can sneak by them with meat or something and they always run over to molest the female mages.
>>324265551
yup, even the Everfall is some scraps of a much greater idea.
>>324263593
They have the same health you retard.
So either stop shitposting or actually play the game.
>>324265201
Fuck, DD2 will happen r-right?
>>324261973
Lost and Found dies the second you complete the hydra head escort mission.
>first time in Gran Soren
>take all quests
>one quest is "escort Reynard to The Greatwall Encampment
Am I fucked?
>>324259607
>He fell for the assassin meme
>>324265708
They're attracted to all females.
I believe they're weakest to lightning.
>>324265448
Just imagine the kinds of fucked up creatures you would fight there
>>324259192
My only complaint about mages in Dragon's Dogma are the armor/clothing. Nothing but generic ankle length robes. I wish there was armor like the sorcerers in The Witcher wear.
>>324265201
>>324265748
So you're saying that the game is bad, because it isn't how it was originally planned? Nigga, that goes for 90% of the games. Only this time, you got screengrabs to hold into peoples faces to make underline your trolling.
>>324266026
>break the circle of death/rebirth
Can you even do that in the game?
>>324265708
Get a lot of stamina items and then climb from behind all the way to its head. Then just keep bashing at it until it dies.
Be careful not to stay at its back for too long and get to the head as soon as possible because it will try to fall on its back if you're on there too long.
>>324266146
Thats what the godsbane is for !
>>324265695
Probably to encourage more player interaction. Otherwise the came would be saturated with pawns.
>>324265015
No there not. Being mad that clinging to a boss and using mushrooms to restore stamina is too easy is not a valid complaint, its a stupid nit pick attempt at saying something.
>cast Sigil + Cannons
>anything that touches my trapzone fucking explodes
>cast Abyssal Anguish
>sword turns into a fucking lightsaber
>charge at enemy, simple stab suddenly disembowels it
WHAT IS THE BEST VOCATION AND WHY IS IT MYSTIC KNIGHT FUCKERS
I pirated the game and liked it so I bought it. Does anyone know where the save file is so I don't have to start over?
>>324266370
Depends on which version, either your appdata for the bitcoin miner or the folder itself if schoolproject. Asks /ddg/ for how to convert it
>>324265551
Just like MGSV. The gameplay is flawless but they fucked up with everything else.
>>324266370
if its the codex release its in appdata/roaming/steam/367500/
to convert:
https://www.reddit.com/r/DragonsDogmods/comments/414do1/pcpress_leak_retail_save_game_converter/
>>324266094
Please point out in my posts where I said the game was bad?
I only implied that it wasn't remotely as great as it could've been. And no that is not true to all games. Tons of games manage to deliver something really close to the planned experience.
The DD case is a case of both over-ambitious team and over-greedy publisher. And yes believe it or not publishers aren't full evil and actually understand how some game can take time, chances are the DD team failed to prove they were capable to deliver what they envisioned and Capcom put a stop to the cash leak and said "pack it up and ship it".
>>324266253
Pretty sure most people would rather have multiple saves over their pawns getting hired more
>>324260459
>The only reason it's a top seller is because of console shitposting
>>324266798
>publishers aren't full evil
Holy fuck, I never thought I'd see the day. Thanks, anon, restored my faith that there are some level headed people on this board.
>>324265882
>Assassin
>Having trouble killing mages
What? I literally oneshot them before they even know I'm here. He can't be playing assassin if that's what he's having trouble with.
why is there green items in my bank that are 10 times better than i looted? is that a bug?
Can anyone give me some general beginner tips or something. Because I have no idea what to do
>>324264859
>Game comes out three years ago
>Persistent threads about it
>/v/ says it's a pretty good game
>Has a fanbase surronding the red dragon Gregori reminiscent of a souls fag love for Solaire.
>Hear about how great the combat is.
>Game is released for PC
>all of a sudden people calling the game shit
>Calling all past praises some sort of meme
hmm
>>324267031
That's pre-order bonuses, I believe. They're get to be pretty useless in a hurry. Just sell the monocle for 300k and forget about the rest.
>>324266798Maybe the pc version will make them think about dd2
Only complain I have is the one save file it automatically saves over when something shitty happens.
Other than that the game is perfect. I hear it could have been much more but they cut a lot of stuff out. Game would have been perfect I'm sure.
I want to aught Madeleine
I'm so glad they decided to include the Everlasting Ferrystone because this game would've been unbelievably tedious without it.
>>324254518
>Dependent on retarded AI pawns
>Not playing the entire game solo
Most fucking immersive game I played when you're by yourself.
>>324267369
>used goods
>>324267369
>>324267056
She'd probably suck your dick and then some for that 1000 gold if the option was given
So for you new people who beat the game, what did you think aboutfighting God, who is the tutorial character from earlier? All of those drakes/wyverns/wryms you fought are fallen arisens who failed to defeat him.Or what aboutyour pawn becoming you after godsbaning your arisen?
>>324267458
>tfw you're walking alone at night with no pawns
>tfw pitch dark
>>324267034
When making your pawn make sure that he's not guardian inclination. If you've already fucked this up to fix it go to Gran Soren, withdraw the eternal ferrystone from storage in the inn, accept the quests on the noticeboard in the basement of the Pawn's Guild, teleport to the starting town, get the item on the chimney of the building right next to the church (the one the prayer book was on), then go to the encampment and talk to the peddler standing next to the riftstone. He'll sell you potions that will change your pawn's inclination, but he only takes RC which is really hard to get right now since the Pawn system is bugged, so the only way to get enough is to do the DLC quests in the guild's basement.
Also make sure you do ALL the sidequests (aside from notice board ones) as soon as they're avaliable because most of them will eventually become unavaliable at a point in the main story and failing them can deny you the opportunity to do later quests.
At the end of the game you will marry whichever NPC you talk to the most. The only way to cheese this is to do an escort quest from a noticeboard for an NPC you like, then give them presents (while talking to him a lot). If you don't do this you're probably marrying the blacksmith or the innkeeper.
How do I change my pawn's inclinations?
I sit in the knowledge chair but I keep getting the same questions, and they haven't changed anything so far.
>>324267210
maybe.. just maybe PC gamers have higher standards?
I've been participating in DD threads since the DA release and while they weren't nearly as bad as what we got now, people never missed an occasion to taunt PCucks about the exclusivity.
>>324267746
The knowledge chair only lets you swap your secondary and tertiatry inclinations out. Read what I wrote here >>324267636 for a detailed guide on how to fix whatever you fucked up.
>>324267861
Yeah, I posted that before I saw your post.
I guess I should go and farm some rift crytals.
>>324268001
You just need to do the one quest to get more than enough to change out your inclinations. You only really need to buy one of each potion then you can dupe them at the Black Cat for a tiny amount of gold.
r8 my daughterfu
>>324268180
_____
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
It has its faults and it did age a ton, but it is still the most fun game of its type to me. The combat is just so satisfying.
Enemies stop being bullet sponges once you hit level 30 or so
>>324265521
That's how levels work. If you're low level, your damage is shit and enemies take a long time to die, if you're high level, your damage is great and you kill lower level enemies quickly. I don't see the problem. If they're damage sponges your level is too low for them, it's a simple as that.
I bet you bitched about damage sponges in witcher 3 too
damage sponges mean that regardless of your level, enemies take too long to kill, like in borderlands, where enemies health scales far past weapon damage (though that only happens once you're in new game plus).
In DD, if you're at the appropriate level, you can wreck their shit quite fast. Too fast actually.
>>324266807
I'm pretty sure most people would hire their own pawns from the other savefile and make up their entire group themselves
>>324254518
Here's a con for ya.
ONE FUCKING GAME SAVE
I fucking despise games that only allow one save slot.
>>324268180
aught/10
Really enjoying this game tbqswymfm(to be quite sincere with you my family members)
The combat is amazing and all the vocations are fun to play, but the "slowly walking around in a huge empty area" is killing me
>>324268437
Hell yes. I'm playing on hard mode on my first playthrough and just fought a Golem for the first time. Shit was intense as hell. I can see why a lot of people like this game, even if its pretty rough on the edges.
>>324266026
>ending one
>become god
>ending 2
>break the cycle of death/rebirth
>ending 3
>don't become god
>ending 4
>lover's ending
I wish we at least got all the endings
I want to have an ending with my waifu
>>324268715
You only have to do that on the first run.
Once you have port crystals in place you can teleport everywhere.
>>324268734
I don't think even diehard fans will say it is perfect at all. Just that every class feels satisfying and you really feel like a battlefield general. Big minster scale is crazy good.
I can't wait to see what a sequel would look like with modern visuals
>>324268715
I agree, why did the walk movement be so slow?
I also dislike the endless consumables and inventory hopping, find it a terrible mechanic to put into fast paced action like this...
Still, its fun - though I do wish the assclowns would fix the pawn system
>>324267628
>no pawns
>night
>evil swamp way up northwest
>latern runs out of oil
>ghosts appear
How do you even deal with the ghosts possessing you without pawns?
>>324268540
>If they're damage sponges your level is too low for them, it's a simple as that.
Alright listen retard, if I level up to the point where bigger creatures aren't tedious as fuck to fight is also so point where I kill anything smaller in one shot.
This means I'm over leveled.
When smaller enemies offer a fair fight, it's the bigger ones which are health pools.
Call it shit balance, call it what you want but it's poorly designed as the design reference for health pool and balancing in general is always the most common enemy.
>>324269024
>why did the walk movement be so slow?
Because you made a fatass wearing heavy armour.
>>324258180
>>324269024
>I agree, why did the walk movement be so slow?
if you made a loli or a shota like a proper patrician, got the fighter augment sinew and the strider augment leg-strength, you'd be zipping around at the speed of soundCan't believe no one made a sanic pawn yet
>>324259192
i gotta try a mage arisen some time
>Die a bunch of times during one of those retarded escort missions because I keep on running into a Chimera
>Get Arc of Might
>Find one again
>Fully charged Arc of Might takes out around 2 healthbars, lolimage pawn's Bromide takes out the third
Holy shit this game is fun
>>324269065
Have equipment or use consumable that protects you from possession if you're going to be traveling in a spooky place at night.
>>324269240
I used a pawn which looked exactly like her, she was useful when not constantly tanking and dying
>>324268715
Run. Run a lot. If you get tired, pawns will revitalize.
>>324269096
no
>>324269385
I did at first and that felt "normal", everything else feels slow - everything else IS slow, though I'm now missing sinew
How important is min maxing really?
I'm level 50 and I want to try out magic, but I keep reading that completely fucks up your character.
>>324268865
You start out with the port crystals in the PC version
>>324254518
Just started playing, is going from fighter to sorcerer to mystic knight a good plan?
>>324269487
may have been mine, but I thought I set her to heal. was she a mage?
first time player btw
>>324255345
Why are you defending it like this, what the fuck?
OP was posting an opinion, not hard evidence.
Fuck you, fucking fanboy cocksucker.
I made my pawn a loli mage
am I supposed to do that
>Sprinting along
>Suddenly my pawn shoots up to my side
>Keeps running alongside me while staring intensely
h-help
>>324267636
>When making your pawn make sure that he's not guardian inclination
>tfw acquisitor pawn
What should I make my sorcerer qt's inclinations?
>>324266086
I think I'm more bothered by the fact that robes will hug your ankles no matter what, even if it's just a cloak that opens up in the front, and would logically billow behind you as you sprint.
>>324258180normalfag+shota
Hard to take a good screenshot in this, why does my pawn disappear with the in-game screenshot function?
I'm glad steam Bros got it but if you're not sold on the "hype" I'd consider suicide. It was on both 360 and ps3 for almost four years now and if you haven't at least sampled it on a console or played it already you're kind of showing your lack of options and trying judge cold leftovers of a B+ 2012 game in 2016.
God Dammit Capcom fix the fucking pawn rental already i need to know how popular my pawn is.
>>324258257
Should have made Ramen Reigns and never get tired
>>324269640
She was the healer, that's why it was annoying she was running up to the ogres
>>324269606
That's a ferrystone.
Port crystals are the fast travel locations.
>>324269787
Too close to the camera
More like Dragon's Dogshit.
The game is marketed at autistic permavirgins and sick fuck pedophiles who spend days perfecting their pathetic waifus, and there is literally zero game to speak of.
>>324269658
If you wanted to be the other hundred thousand people that also made ugly loli mages with unfitting, deep voices and stupidly inflated RC prices. Then yes, you were suppose to do that
>>324269716
Scather so they use those offensive spells and utilitarian so they use those buffs properly. Mendicant makes them faster on the draw with heals but it isn't really that needed.
>>324269067
>is also so point where I kill anything smaller in one shot.
The problem is that at the level you're doing good damage to large creatures, the minion of choice should be the hobgoblin, or the bandits, not goblins. But the game doesn't replace the goblins, so it feels wrong when you fight a cyclops+goblins, when it should be cyclops+hobgoblins
That said, I really don't see the problem. There's literally 1 enemy that is super high toughness for its level outside of bitterblack isle, and that is the ogre. Every other enemy doesn't take that long to kill. Chimeras die really fast if you attack the non-lion heads, cyclops are a too easy even for a level 1 arisen, and so on.
>>324269830
I owned a 360 when it was released, but the terrible framerate from gameplay videos just made me wait, and lo and behold.
>>324269879
>thats what I'm trying to do
Developer brainfart
>>324269854
could have been mine then,
What's the point of the cosmetic pawn items when you can just buy the item that lets you completely change them?
>>324269636
You don't need to worry about minmaxing. Just pick whatever you want to pick, whenever you feel like it.
>>324270273
>cosmetic pawn items
What?
>>324269830
>cold leftovers
That's like the worst meme that was ever memed. How can media be leftovers? Movies, books, are they leftovers just because you read /watch them later? Is the Count of Monte Christo leftovers? Is Blade Runner leftovers?
Are you faggots that insecure, that you feel outdated yourselves, if you can't join the latest talk during big break?
>>324270273
post pictures of your epic arrival to grand soren
>>324270005
>cyclops are a too easy even for a level 1 arisen
This discussion isn't about difficulty, it's about balance.
>>324270392
There's a merchant at the Cassardis camp who sells items that let you change your pawn's hair colour or skin colour.
Why is the pawn AI so bad, especially hired pawns?
Obviously the thing made of darkness and evil is weak to holy light, but I have to stand there for like 20 minutes during the fight hammering HELP ME as they run around in circles getting killed over and over before they decide to buff me with the one spell I picked them out for, and then when they do decide to give me the buff they chose dark boon over holy affinity and then return running around in circles before getting killed.
I mean the pawns even suck at the jump on the thing and attack the glowing weakspot, sure they can jump on it, occasionally, and they occasionally might touch the weak spot but they're far too preoccupied with running around in circles and uselessly attacking the thing shins or something.
My Ranger pawn is the only one that can seemingly do anything and that's stand back and shoot arrows at stuff, which is exactly what I want them to be doing.
I think it's alright. Definitely $30 alright.
The quest system is abysmal though, and incredibly stressful. I'm asking for a point in the right direction, not hand-holding, but the game rarely gives either. On top of that, the way it paces itself is disgustingly poor.
Example:
>quest to kill the Griffon
>go with a pack of soldiers to lure and fight it
>it flees
>"QUICK, TO THE BLUEMOON TOWER!"
>sense of urgency and immediacy
>game has not mentioned this tower once
>follow soldiers, they run into the city gates and vanish
>check map to see a red marker far to the East in an undiscovered area
>quite literally takes an hour, hour and a half to get there if you pace yourself
>huge hike-up in enemy health; also encounter a strong golem
>finally make it to Bluemoon Tower
>soldiers act as if they made it there in a few minutes without struggle
>the fight with the Griffon was easier than the random golem encounter
Nothing is even hard. It's just slow, so slow. The few moments of glory with fighting awesome monsters is buried beneath everything else the game drags you through.
Don't even get me started on having to rely on your one obligatory pawn mage to buff my weapon accordingly so I can actually kill a standard enemy in less than 10 seconds.
Dragon's Dogma is the kind of game I can see improving a lot with a sequel.
>>324270621
You have to train your pawn.
>>324270518
I meant they have too little health, sorry for confusion
stab them in the face and they're down in no time at all, even with a rusted sword at low level (obviously it's impossible to find one at level 1)
>>324270450
OP here. Way to project. I didn't accuse the game of necessarily aging poorly or any of the sort. However I think it's retarded to judge an older console port as if it was only being released on pc today, and there's nothing new about dark arisen on pc that will change the game in a fundamental level. Sans perhaps performance issues, even then not a given. Calm the fuck down
>>324270709
My pawn is the only one that's even capable, what the fuck are you people doing then.
Damn the lolis are super lewd with thongs on. Awesome.
Also having 2 Sorcerer pawns is hilarious, even if it may be totally unbalanced.
And are warriors supposed to be this bad as pawns? Fighter pawns seems to have way better AI
>>324270450
>e-reader cucks had to wait 4000 years to get the Epic of Gilgamesh
>>324270621
People tend to pick pawn vocations different then their own. Which means the pawns learn all the wrong things.
If you got a strider or fighter pawn and he's just climbing all over not picking the right spot chances are the arisen that made them is a sorcerer or mage or whatever, doesn't really climb on things, and though the "climb on things" inclination was good enough to teach panws how to climb
>>324254518
You pretty much nailed it.
>>324269986
alright, thank you anon
>>324270859
The problem is, most people will create a fighter arisen and a mage pawn and so the mage never actually learns anything from them.
>>324270557
Well, maybe they are special skin color variants?
I guess they just carried over all DLC regardless of whether it would be useful or not
OP here. I changed my mind. Game is actually total garbage.
my biggest gripe is pawns walking directly infront of you, whenever i turn to get around them they just fucking run infront of me, and i can't see past the stupid heal blob my mage casts on me everytime i lose a point of HP
that and fighting cyclopses 100 times, it was fun the first 20 times, but now it's just pretty annoying having to climb them and shit or spend 10 minutes hacking at their ankles
r8 my squad
About 15 hours in and i am not really feeling it.
-Characters, story, lore etc barely exist so far
-no interesting quests so far
-no quick key for pots etc
-no advanced ordering of pawns
-pawn ai often screws up
-pawns simply not as interesting as fleshed out party members
-no interesting items so far, barely any interesting item drops so far either
-annoying fast travel system
-can't run for shit
-Larger enemies can take silly amount of damage, just becomes a chore
-climbing often bugs out
-enemy variety is kind of lacking so far
>>324270686
>he didn't strategically place the portal stones so he could do every quest in one piece
l o l
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Seriously though I know what you mean but the griffin is one of the weaker beasts anyhow, just a step above chimeras
>obligatory mage pawn
Just go magic knight and buff yourself then
Does it never rain in this game?
And it is SO atmospheric at night, shame when it's day it doesn't feel the same.
>>324258257
Nailed it again.
What the fuck is a dangan?
>>324270621
>hammering HELP ME
you shouldnt do that, it gives your pawn the guardian inclinitaion wich makes them pretty much useless.
>depending on their vocation, your primary pawn will have a higher stat growth in one area than another
>this doesn't change or adapt if you switch your pawn's vocation
>if you leveled your pawn to max as a sorcerer, it will be the shittiest possible Warrior with the worst-fitting stats and you can't do a thing about it
This is some Pokemon EV training shit, and it feels like a complete oversight.
who else /autistmode/?
>solo
>no stamina itens but the ones you find while exploring
>healing only at inn
>mining
>not buying materials and weapons
>not buying gear in general
>no solo augments
It's fucking hard, but insanelly satisfying
>He doesn't use e3fx
lel, only non garbage shader mod.
>play magicians exclusively on PS3
>switch to being a warrior to take advantage of that smooth framerate
This is so fucking fun. Everything's dying and I'm still alive at the end of it.
>>324271509
>posting some Berserk when they took it out of the PC version
Not today, family.
>>324271321
>enemy variety is kind of lacking so far
I have bad news for you..
>>324270814
>OP here
Fuck you
>>324254518
Here's what I want to know:
Why in the flying fuck is all the fancy gear available somehow statistically WORSE than the crap I picked up that's just laying around?
would be nice if loli voices would actually sound like loli voices nd not just disgustingly high pitched
Mystic Knight master race. Its hilarious how hard you can abuse Great Cannon with multiple incantations and Tusk Toss.
>>324271363
How else can you get a pawn to decide to use a buff?
It works like 100% of the time out of combat, but in combat it like a 50/50 shot of them either starting a spell or running around in circles.
>>324270686
>Dragon's Dogma is the kind of game I can see improving a lot with a sequel.
That's what we're all hoping this port points towards. If Capcom decides not to at least think on it further, a part of me's gonna die.
>>324271569
Doesn't matter that it isn't in.
The struggle is there.
That overcoming of great odds is a special feeling.
IT'SA HEWMAN
>>324271596
because the fancy gear is dlc gear just for playing dress up
the real good sold gear is locked behind story progression.
>>324271596
I'm assuming you're talking about the cosmetic sets that are available. Well, that's what they are, cosmetic sets.
>>324271659
Great cannon is fun and all, but you should try out stone forest too. Shit fucking juggles everything around you, and when you get your MK ring from BBI you fucking juggle Death itself. Don't forget to pack articulacy and wrymking ring for shorter cast times.
>>324271659
MK master race
>>324271676
good panws will buff you according to enemy without needing prompt
>>324271659
I tried shooting a magic cannon of some kind with a ranger's tenfold arrow thing and it fucking destroyed everything.
>>324271864
>cinematic camera
Gross.
>>324271879
Yeah, well finding good pawns is a pain in my dick.
It's hard enough to find a pawn that isn't trying to be a retarded jack of all trades, but now I've got to check to see if their inclinations are in order too?
>>324269854
>>324269640
>>324269487
I think I have her too, Lyssa or something like that?
>>324271881
Yeah pretty much anything can set off the cannon. If you can get a sorc to hit it when an uber spell it goes full lightshow.
What do I do with Badge of Vows?
>>324271569
I don't really miss the Guts stuff, but man am I feeling not having the griffith set.
That was some nice lightweight armor right there and you can get it really early too. I miss it.
>>324271794
>>324271858
I'm not talking about the costumes that equip to all slot, I mean stuff like Chaos Armor, or Heresy
>casting Maelstrom on a group of bandits for a first time
I thought to go for mystic knight after earning like 50 sorcerer levels, but now i'm not so sure.
Guys, I'm genuinely upset that I fucked up my pawn to the point where I hope no one picks it as their party member.
Problem is that I need 5,000 RC or whatever to change my disaster. Is there anyway to get them somewhat easily? I'm sitting at 2K, I just want this shitty fucking pawn to get a makeover.
>>324272050
yup
here's a hint:
Is the pawn some sort of joke? If yes, he'sactually probably pretty good because the vast majority of the shitters make waifu pawns. Avoid memes like shrek however
another tip, set up search to only males, and you cut on 70% of the shit tier pawns
>>324272287
Either farm BBI or use cheat engine
Fuck sake. Where are all the fucking muscle wizards? I'm sick of your fucking loli mages and trap faggot mages and everyone wearing the same fucking DLC armour shit.
>>324269787
>shotaExcellent taste.
Really fun game. But holy fuck it starts so slow. Running back and force and killing wolves for first 5 hours almost made me drop the game.
>>324272267
Those are what I'm talking about. They only become slightly better after dragonforging. They're mainly there to look good.
When does the game start getting fun?
Dowsing Spikes are bretty fun
>>324271586
Is it just going to keep on throwing goblins/wolfs/lizzards /Bandits/zombies at me for the rest of the game?
>>324272267
they're dress up too. Everything in the black cat store is for dress up
The game fucking tells you where to get good gear m8 the good gear is all masterworks, while black cat specializes in counterfeit shit. I bet mos of the black cat armor is made of papier-mâché or some shit
>>324272380
Doesn't BBI require you to be like level 50 to even get started without being destroyed?
Also, if I'm a strider, would it be much of a mistake to make my pawn learn off me as an archer?
>>324272373
Hey fuck you buddy, I don't dress my fighter waifu up like a slut.
>>324271881
And how the fuck did you find a magic cannon sitting around while playing a ranger?
>>324272587
yes
I have a question. I keep on hearing that you should use fire/ice/whatever against certain enemies but if i play as a melee character then am i not completely in depended on the pawns that i can not control?
>>324272449
This. I almost dropped the game hard during the first 5 hours but I love it now.
I feel like I've been missing a fuck ton of side quests, though. Is there a guide?
Bad idea to roll main and pawn as Fighter at the same time?
>>324254518
>Damage-sponge enemies
you're doing something wrong, maybe you played 40 levels of sorcerer and now you're playing assassin, or not taking advantage on the enemy weakness
>>324273089
Not bad. Just one dimensional. Just go for a mix. Max every classes if you want. Do not minmax in your first playthrough. Minmaxing doesn't matter with late game gear anyway
![goty[1].webm](https://i.imgur.com/DE53VV2.jpg "goty[1].webm")
>>324272587
maybe
>>324272908
Pawns will learn the weaknesses of enemies if you use scrolls or they have enough experience. You can get lucky and hired pawns might have that already
>>324273089
No, he will learn from you.
are there any weapons that are already booned?
taking escort missions with a melee character is bullshit
>>324272373
Most male pawns don't have the love people put into female pawns so chances are, male pawns will act retarded
>>324273181
I agree with every other enemy so far but I did find the ogres in the tunnel kind of spongy considering they are not bosses or anything, just normal enemies and they are not big and slow but relatively fast.
>>324273510
>implying there's any less love involved in bros
Why are there multiple Dragon's Dogma threads going on with the "this game is shit" OP? I had a hard time deciding which thread would suck the least balls.
How true has
>pic related
been for people?
>>324273487
not to my recollection. Also, it would be horrible to have that anyways. Best set up is to be a magick knight so you can boon with two kinds of spells and have a mage who can boon the other ones
>>324273732
They're all just thinly veiled DD threads.
