How long till PSN and Xbox Live stop support for the PS3 and 360?
Once it stops support for the Xbox One and PC.
>>324170463
people still play ps3 and 360? nobody can be this poor
>>324170463
I'm honestly surprised it's still going
>>324170463
why should they? there is still a huge population of players on those consoles
>>324170838
I'm playing Yakuza 4 at this moment.
>>324170463
Why the fuck?
How the hell would someone be able to access their backlog of digital games?
>>324170463
xbox live for 360 still brings money, free PSN for PS3 still working is surprising
>>324171297
They don't. Never buy digital on console.
>>324170838
Black Ops 2 and TLOU stll have active MP.
I think they might start selling 360 and ps3 in poorer markets, akin to the master system being in Brazil in the 2000s.
So hopefully not for a long time. 360 and PS3 each sold 80 million each, they could easily make that 200 million each if they aggressively sold their systems in 3rd world countries with cheap as hell games.
>>324171520
What about the PS+ free shit?
Prob 2-3+ years.
There's still old ass 2006/2007 games with running servers that no one plays. I don't see PS3 servers being totally shut down until at least 2020
>>324170463
Literally years. They can switch to virtual servers these days if they need to save money and they make money from PS+/Live subscriptions and selling games.
>>324170463
PSN survived all those years on PS3 being free with PSN of PS4 making bank for Sony I doubt they'll cut support to online play to all the PS3 games anytime soon.
Also not to mention both PSN and XBL still get a great number of sells from the PS3 and 360 stores
>dat feel when I know a 30 year old dumbass who has spouted for 2 years in a row now that Sony are shutting down online for the PS3 THIS YEAR (2014, 2015, now 2016) and that everyone needs to buy a PS4 as soon as possible to transfer over your accounts
>>324171593
>This would be amazing. Imagine booting up Modern Warfare 2 in 2025 and a bunch of people are still playing it like it was the hottest shit.
>>324171520
Stupid fucking response.
Sony can't just lock away all those games just like that, there'd be an outrage.
>>324171802
I can confirm the online for all the COD, BF, GTA, RDR, and Uncharted games are still pretty packed.
Hell Killzone 2 tends to be more popular in a day than Killzone 3 does in a week
>>324171593
>I think they might start selling 360 and ps3 in poorer markets, akin to the master system being in Brazil in the 2000s.
They won't as they're too expensive to manufacture. Compare with Master System/Mega Drive/NES all using cheap off-the-shelf shit which is why there's a shitload of clones. There's a reason they still cost a fortune new.
Microsoft wanted to develop a mini-360 without a disc drive for streaming and shit but they clearly couldn't make the finances work.
>>324170838
Fucking ps3's are still fucking expensive as shit
>>324172109
>There's a reason they still cost a fortune new
I mean the 360/PS3 still cost a fortune new.
>>324172126
Crazy custom hardware. $599 is why the PS3E struggles and dumping all that bullshit is why the PS4 won.
>>324171802
Nothing but hackers now.
360 live was migrated to a different server structure within Microsoft's massive server farms since the friend list change way back so it never has to shut down. They can just switch to a virtual server any time.
PS3 probably depends on how much Sony is footing the bills for rackspace to keep it up. They already killed PSP online.
>>324172126
really I see em selling on craigslist all the time for $100 to $200 at most with usually a bunch of games and shit with em
>>324170463
Hopefully not soon, it's the only thing letting me get digitals on my Vita
>>324170463
PSN and XBL aren't going to die for a while for those systems. They are still strong.
>>324171963
Sonyggers would defend it
>>324172126
Get a job
>>324172302
>tfw have a backlog of about 20 PS1 games shared between my PS3 and Vita
Sony can't just take that shit away from me, there'd better be some severe complaints if this ever happened.
>>324172535
I have CFW so hopefully there'll be a workaround for me.
>>324170838
There's not enough reason to update to the PS4 if you aren't interested in multiplats.
>>324170838
Only game I'm interested for the PS4 is Persona 5. There are many people who do feel like buying a new system. PS+ being required to access online features for retail games is bullshit too.
Being poor isn't the same as spending your money wisely and being a smart consumer. If anything, the poor guy's the one who'll buy the lastest shiny piece of shit.
>>324172109
Ah, I didn't realize that. I still wonder if they will release something though. Perhaps a revised system similar to Nintendo's Ique in the distant future.
These companies are going to try to find new ways to sell all those 360/PS3 exclusive games again for sure.
>>324172462
Yours doesn't pay enough
>>324172797
>who don't feel like buying a new system.
Hate using phones
I know this a little unrelated but How much should I sell my xbox 360 with 2 controllers, a 250gb hard drive, and 2 games?
>>324172769
Naw this year is pretty great for Japanese releases
I'll get one soon enough
>>324172936
Like R$300 or so
>>324172797
>PS+ being required to access online features for retail games is bullshit too.
This is the main thing holding me back from getting a new system.
At this point Im just going into Gamestops and getting all the games I've missed for cheap, just waiting for those last couple of good games from the ass end of 2014 and all of 2015 to drop to a reasonable price
>>324172936
Try for 200
If no one is biting then drop to 150
I sold mine for 120 but mine was a 4 GB slim model + 2 games and one controllerI hated the 360
360 will be supported for a long time.
PS3 will be yanked in a couple of years, tops.
>>324170463
2 years now I think. They said 5 after current gen released
>>324173158
>PS3 will be yanked in a couple of years, tops.
I doubt it, PS1 was supported well into over halfway past the PS2 life cycle and the PS2 was supported well into over halfway past the PS3 life cycle.
Only way I see it happening is if the amount of people playing online on PS3 drops significantly to the point where enough shit won't be raised and that won't happen for a good long while
>>324173447
They will want to get rid of it asap since it's only costing them money, unlike XBL
I don't think the ps3 will go offline for a long, long, long time.
there were 80 million PS3s sold, and what, 30 million ps4s right now? I mean there might be more ps3s active than ps4s.
Also, sony supported the ps2 up until 2 years ago, some games still had their official online servers, the psp still has its servers iirc and got a game last year
ps3 will be online for a long time im calling
also this is a generation without a real reason to upgrade desu
>>324173571
They make money by selling games on PSN. I'd also bet they have a surprising amount of PS3 PS+ subscribers.
>>324173364
This c-can't be true pham. They can't just take away my digital games??
>>324173649
Not any more. The PS+ lineup for PS3 has been shitty ever since PS4 came out
>>324173651
Download them all and back them up to HDDs desu
>>324173158
yeah man just like how long the og xbox servers were
oh wait
they were yanked before the ps2s even though people paid for it
>>324173571
still making money off of sells from the store plus PS+ for PS3.
Also if im not mistaken shit like Crackle, Netflix and Hulu are all tied into PSN some which way
>>324171997
>killzone 2
>go online
>2v2
>>324173651
Couldn't you just authorize to download your digital games on the internet or something?
Like go to your download list on the desktop store and download them from there, that could work.
>>324172126
Buy broken ones for 20 bucks and fix em, thats what i did
>>324173767
10 years ago, you needed to maintain physical servers. These days, you just virtualise it and make the instance smaller. OG Live was also way less popular than online services these days.
>>324170463
Microsoft
>you had Gold when you downloaded that free 360 game, it's cool man you can keep it
>have a AAA game on us
Sony
>YOU NO PRAY GAME UNTIL YOU CONNECT TO PSN AND VERIFY YOU STILL PS PRUS SUBSCRIBER!
>You no rike indie game? Okay we give you Driveclub..FREE EDITION! You no expect us give away full game do you?!
Why is Microsoft so bro tier?
>>324174164
They're the underdog.
So there's this vendor at the swap meet selling a ps3 (ps2 and ps1 backwards compatible) for $129? Should I bite or look for a better deal on craigslist
>>324170463
Battlefield 2 MC on PS2 servers still up with some DNAS change, any CoD game for Wii still up and with many people playing on them
>>324174164
Because they know they fucked up at E3 and now theyre trying to be everyones "gamer bro"
>>324174164
Fuck you Microsoft started this paid online bullshit they still fucking suck
>>324174236
I got one from a retro game shop near me for like $80doesn't have wireless, and came with a 20gb hard drive. I didn't know how easily you could replace those things though that was a pleasant surprise
>>324170463
All the playstation devices uses the same servers for everything zeus.dl.playstation.net for content as an example.
So they will linger on for quite a bit.
>>324170463
Some games on PS2 still online senpai
>>324174236
Fat PS3 is best PS3. I kind of regret not buying one for five hundred and ninety nine US dollars.
>>324174360
That was Sega
>>324174164
they changed it on the Xbone. need gold to play the "free" games
>>324174060
This anon gets it, I think that it's very likely that they keep virtual servers up for years to come. It won't cost much to do it once the playerbase shrinks down, and it sure will be easier to keep a virtual skeleton server up for the occasional user than take the PR lashback from closing it down.
>>324174480
Fat PS3 died in mass when GTAV came out,.
>>324174439
easy enough
>>324174480
Having had 2 fats over the years (1 destroyed in a fire, other broke) the only downside to the Fats are for some reason the solder in em are easier to break
Last model fully backwards compatible was the 80GB model and had the least problems when it came to solder but it still does it.
If you're not worried about backwards compatibility go for those first slim models
>>324174924
80GBs actually emulate their games, not natively playing them. However, majority of games work. Only a handful (like a dozen or so?) don't and those got ports anyway. It's mainly CD based PS2 games.
Also, fat PS3s had fucking dogshit build quality, which is painful to know, since they're possibly the one of the best consoles that existed in terms of what it can do.
>>324174924
to add to this pretty much what happens is Sony had to be environmentally friendly when doing the solder for the PS3s and thus its some low quality shit that has a tendacy to break under extreme heat.
Same solder in all the PS3s but the fat models just liked to get hotter under extended game play compared to the slim models.
>>324175146
It hurts to live trying to play Scarface the Game on a PS3, has some kind of tiny amount of lag but you can't get any further than a few missions in when you get to your first timed mission.
>you're lagging and moving is slower than you want to
>the countdown clock moves at normal speed
>even at your fastest you still are around 20 to 30 seconds short
>>324170838
No PS4 support for PS1/PS2 Classics.
The only online PS3 games that I care about are on PC too, if I cared enough to still play them.
>>324173767
Sony has been cockblocking PS3 releases of Japanese multiplats for games like Dragon Quest Heroes and Star Ocean 5. It's pretty fucking clear that they DON'T want to support the PS3.Shit like this is why I'm skipping this generation of video games.
>>324175553
Most of the ps3 versions are pretty bad, Yakuza Zero for example runs like shit and stutters all the time.
>>324175752
I know of Yakuza Zero, but that's coming out in 2017. I would have been fine with DQH since it doesn't have as much enemies as every other Musou, but there's a PC version so that doesn't matter anymore. Either way I don't like this business practice of PS3 versions of Japanese games being blocked.
I'm not trying to be edgy with what I said in the last post. If something great comes, I'll buy a used PS4 because fuck giving Sony money. That "something great" would have to be on par with DQXI and Yakuza 6 being localized which will be years from now.
Is MGO3 active on PS3?
>>324171963
What the fuck were you expecting to happen? One day you'll lose those games
>>324176475
Are you seriously implying Sony wouldn't develop something to let us access the games even if PSN went down?
Apparently, next year. Don't remember where I read this and I think this only applies to XBL.
>>324176401
I know MGO that came with MGS4 is shutdown
>>324176383
It varies from publisher to publisher, like Square is completely skipping ps3 versions now, but Koei is still publishing Arslan Musou and Samurai Warriors 4 Empires on the ps3, Atlus is still publishing Persona 5 on ps3.
>>324176741
There are private servers with CFW
>>324176634
Like what?
>>324176634
ahahaha.
Just like those psone games on your ps4 and oh, those ps2 games too, right?
Fanboys are so dumb.
>>324176781
The original MGO has also been brought up too.
Probably never, or at least no in it's entirety.
PSN as it is right now is pretty much a single service that serves PS3, PSP, Vita and PS4. Shutting down online access for any console would be pretty much arbitrary. If they were ever going to shut anything, down the PSP would have lost access years ago.
Xbox Live is more or less the same, where's it's a single service that serves the 360 and boner. Now the Xbox Huge's online network was shut down because it was based on a seperate online network that was becoming more expensive and less reasonable to support. Same reason why nintendo shut down NWFC in favour of Nintendo Network.
Either way, if they ever did shut down online access for either network there's no fucking way in a million years that they'd lock people out of their store accounts. The backlash would be unbelievable.
>>324177572
>Same reason why nintendo shut down NWFC in favour of Nintendo Network.
I thought that was out of their hands.
>>324170838
yep
I've got a backlog of PS3 games to play while PS4 only has one title I'm interested in
>>324177668
well, yeah. NWFC was ran on gamespy, and when gamespy died it just became a mess to support.
>>324170463
32 hours
>>324171297
Xbone can play 360 games
>>324176401
Anyone?
>>324173641
>there were 80 million PS3s sold, and what, 30 million ps4s right now?
36 million, with 40 million shipped.
>>324171620
Even worse, when it goes down that's it. You're never getting those games back whereas you can at least maintain those digital games.
>>324174586
They died promptly after it.
I wish more people were boycotting sony when that shit was announced instead of fucking cheering.
>>324179374
I will never understand why people feel the need to defend a faceless corporation. It's not their friend. If they wouldn't go along with the paid online bullshit, they would drop it, but instead people decide to ride their dick and ake excuses for why it's a good thing. God damn
>>324179374
I think people expected the online to improve because of it.
>>324179725
They're poor.
They need to validate their purchase.
>>324170838
I still have a few backlog games i want to finish before i feel comfortable selling my PS3
>>324180112
If they were poor they wouldn't want to waste 50 bucks a year for no reason
>>324180185
That's exactly why they need to validate it.
I have hundreds of dollars of digital games on ps3, i would be pretty pissed off if somehow i couldn't access that anymore.
>>324180332
It's inevitable anon.
>>324170838
PS3 has a better library than the PS4 at the moment.
>>324180397
No way.
What i can see is them cutting of multiplayer support etc.
But they will face extreme backlash if they stop supporting game downloads.
>>324180332
Just finish any of them you haven't completed yet, there's still a good 2 or 3 years left.
>>324180518
Looking at the route gaming is taking that won't change either.
>>324180706
My backlog is filled to the brim with ps3 games.
I think i still have around 30 ps3 games i want to play.
And i've already reached 200 titles played.
http://psnprofiles.com/monteblommie
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