SMB 3
>stages are very tight and well thought out
>awesome sprites, graphics pushed the console to it's limits
>incredible power-ups
SMW
>rushed as fuck so nintendo could sell more consoles
>ugly sprites despite better tech
>lame, imbalanced power ups.
Why is this even a debate?
The only thing I'll give you is that the sprites in SMW are very wonky and inferior.
It's a phenomenal game though, plus Yoshi can eat dolphins in the Japanese version. They censored that in North America but nobody cares because /pol/ didn't exist back then to spam us with "censorship" concerns.
>>324038313
>plus Yoshi can eat dolphins in the Japanese version. They censored that in North America but nobody cares because /pol/ didn't exist back then to spam us with "censorship" concerns.
It also doesn't matter because titties and ass aren't involved
>>324038506
True actually. I was going to say they now whine about all changes but it's true, it's only when it's related to that stuff. They don't even notice the changes that aren't sexually related.
>>324038506
>>324038313
>censored
Repeat with me you dumbfucks.
Lo-ca-li-za-tion
>>324038802
Go away
I played super mario 3D land for the first time, why do they give you that shit that makes you invincible at the beginning of the stage?
Shit is embarrassing.
>>324038089
It's plebs vs video game connoisseurs anon.
People with shit taste, versus people with taste.
It's as simple as that, and it's a great way to measure yourself to other people. Next time someone recommends you game, ask if they think SMB3 is superior to SMW, and you'll know if you can trust them or not. If they haven't played either game, they have shit taste.
>>324038802
I agree with you, though. It can arguably be called self-censorship, but that is not a bad thing. If you ever purposely say something instead of something else you were originally going to say instead, you are, by all means, self-censoring. There is nothing inherently wrong with it.
>>324038313
More like nobody cares because its not titties that got removed.
>>324038802
Did you read that closely? I'm making fun of people who whine about that.
Why would you want to eat the dolphins anyway? Aren't they meant to help you stay above water when those pufferfish come around?>tfw no giant gulping fish that eats you whole in SMW
>>324039180
Somebody covered it.
>>324038506
Also back then social media wasn't a phrase. If you knew something was changed in localization it was because you were a big time enthusiast or working on the game, not a 9 to 5 shitposter.
>>324039013
It only appears if you die too many times. It's just Nintendo's way of saying "you suck".
>>324039262
>Why would you want to eat the dolphins anyway?
They're non-endangered horrible child-killing rapists who are beloved by uninformed crowds who want to save them from extinction despite that they are in absoluteness no danger of it instead of less beloved animals who can actually use the help. Also they probably taste delicious.
>>324039013
>Shit is embarrassing.
Well get good and you won't be embarrassed when it asks if you need invincibility mode.
It's a good feature, it means retards and very young kids can feel accomplished but it's totally optional.
>>324039709
>>324039807
But I died once and that's because the game is retarded and has shitty perspective.
>>324039974
Anon, just keep playing you'll get better.
You can't see that if you only die once so you're fibbing.
>>324038313
Might have actually been a bug fix, since doing that could make the level unwinnable.
>>324039013
You died too much, so they gave you some help. Hope you didn't want that shiny star on your save file, because that shit is gone now. Doesn't matter if you hit it or not, once it appears, you're permanently locked out, because fuck you that's why.
>>324040202
It couldn't actually. You don't need dolphins to win the level. Also pretty sure they would respawn regardless.
It's just removed because of cultural differences. For some reason Western people love rape-fish.
SMB3 has so many great but underutilized mechanics. What are some good smb3 romhacks?
>>324038089
The levels are short as fuck in 3. I know that's probably a limitation of the NES but you can seriously just rush through most of them in under 20 seconds, even during your first playthrough.
>>324038089
SMB3
>longer game
>quantity over quality levels
>more powerups, aesthetic to match every world
SMW
>introduced the comfiest overworld of all time that changed with every level beat
>introduced secret level exits and multiple paths
>less, but more more useful powerups like yoshi or cape
>Vastly different levels
>much better looking sprites with actual shading
>introduced ghost houses and special world
>better music
>3 different koopaling types instead of doing the same fight 7 times in SMB3
>boss boo and reznor instead of boomer iterations
SMW reinvented platformers, but SMB3 has better replay value
>>324040479
SMW had big levels only because of the Cape which necessitated them.
>>324040603
>much better looking sprites
They had shading but the sprites were worse designs. I honestly don't see how anybody could have this opinion.
If there's one thing I have to crucify SMB3 for, it's popularizing the autoscroller. I'm not about to claim that it was the first 2D platformer to do that, but I think it's safe to say that it was the first influential 2D platformer to use them.
>>324040603
Secret level are overrated as they're mostly shit and the ghost houses sucked senpai.
>SMB3 aka Autoscrollers: the game
>>324040851
>the ghost houses sucked
>>324040603
>better music
Nah. SMW's music, like quite frankly most SNES music, was an awkward puberty between chiptunes and real music which ended up having the worst qualities of both.
>>324040832
Why do people hate autoscroller stages again? That's like the only time you need to use your platforming skills in SMB games.
SMW
>Jump on a goomba's head
>It falls over
Ruined the game for me. SMW Mario can't even squash goombas.
>>324041002
>Implying the ghost houses didn't suck
>>324040603
>comfiest
Ah, nostalgia, how useful you are at identifying children who have no idea what they're talking about.
>>324041324
>implying they weren't a great level change-up and offered interesting new puzzles, as well as having a FUCKING SUNKEN GHOST SHIP
>>324040603
>less, but more more useful powerups like yoshi or cape
I don't see how you are blinded to the fact that these powerups are overpowered and completely break the game.
>>324041523
>yoshi is overpowered
Only when he gets power-ups.
Cape is totally broken but it depends on the level too.
>>324038313
You can eat them again in the GBA port.
>>324041687
How curious.
>>324041617
You forgot a free hit, a means of eliminating fucking everything, and the ability to walk on dangerous terrain senpai.
>>324040851
>ghost houses sucked
>>324038313
FUCKA YOU DORPHIN FUCKA YOU WHARE
>>324041742
That's not too OP. It really depends entirely on level.
Look into Super Mario Maker.
>>324041482
First of all, interesting new puzzles is not what I'm looking for in Mario games. Entering fake doors and replaying the same sections over and over again is not enjoyable, but I guess as a SMW apologist, you must enjoy it a lot.
Second, the sunken ghost ship is not a ghost house and doesn't play like one.
>>324040994
>being too casual for autoscrollers
>>324041853
>First of all, interesting new puzzles is not what I'm looking for in Mario games
Well I'm sorry you just need more brick bashing.
>Second, the sunken ghost ship is not a ghost house
You're right it's a ghost ship, dingus.
>>324040832
>>324040994
I never really thought about it before now, but SMB3 really did have a shitload of autoscrolling levels.
>>324038089
I get your points but SMW you can hold the run button and jump on a shell to pick it up. You can't do that in SMB 3. For that reason alone World is better.
>>324041820
Sure, but we're discussing yoshi in the context of SMW. Going by that logic, the cape isn't OP because it wouldn't help you too much in kaizo.
>>324038089
>>324042078
Well yeah, the Cape isn't OP in Bowser's castle. It's OP in any open level though.
>>324042007
I remember this song mocking me on some of the autoscroll levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sH-l2xN3gU
>warp whistle
>>324038313
I thought it just fucked up the level?
>>324042317
Nope, you can beat that level without dolphins.
>>324039013
Except if you take it, you lose the ability to completely finish the game.
>>324039028
fucking love those dancing things whatever they are
I'm sorry but i can ONLY play this version
>>324041523
>that pic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYFFChvQwwo
I love how SMB3>SMW discussions always go the same way.
SMB3 fans bombard SMW fans with SMW's many flaws, while SMW are reduced to deflecting, stating the game's other strong points, and just plain making fools out of themselves as this guy is >>324040603
SMB3 is arguably the best game of all time, but it's certainly the best platformer ever released. It's a goddamn masterpiece. That's not to say SMW is bad, but it falls far short of its predecessor's footsteps.
>>324042637
Strange, I can't play that version without hating myself.
>>324038609
It's funny now that I think about it, I really never have seen people make threads about non-sexual changes even though that's happened plenty of times in the past.
>>324042671
I have that guy as a mii gunner in Smash.
>>324042672
I just wish that you couuld pick up a shell while jumping on it like SMW. It makes going back to SMB3 difficult.
>>324042672
>SMB3
>Better than DKC2
Nope. DKC2 is the best 2D platformer of all time.
>>324043009
You're too fun.
>>324043009
Tropical Freeze is better.
>>324043093
I need to get that game.
>>324042767
Why it was superior in every way. Graphics, sound, save functionality. Plus it was a apart of the entire all stars game pack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0_nOOFV4YY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NpwQnrJ4ks
>>324042485
If it even APPEARS, you lose the ability to completely finish the game.
>>324038089
Fuck you m8. I've literally never met a person who liked 3 over world.
World is objectively the best mario game.
>>324043221
whoops that song wasn't the best example
This is better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFHB0wRw-GI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixA3SzX6uUc
the only thing 3 does better than world is having cool powerups
world has much better level design, aesthetic, overworld, and a final boss that's actually hard
>>324043373
This still gives me chills (pun very intended).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFvJdB7QOM
>>324043373
That's a better example but I still prefer the original's soundtrack as a whole and sprite work.
>>324043562
>and a final boss that's actually hard
Neither games Bowser is especially hard.
SMB3s Bowser is harder if you have no power-up.
Can we at least agree the movement in SM3 was trash compared to SMW's?
>>324043680
this
SM3 feels like the first mario game in terms of controls, it doesn't advance the feel like SMW does with the spin, tweaked movement physics, and cape
>>324043562
>level design
no
>aesthetic
NO
>overworld
fuck no
>final boss
no, as the other anon said, neither was hard
>>324043608
holy shit try playing that song twice/simultaneously at different times. it sounds creepy as fuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnFvJdB7QOM
>>324043312
I hope you enjoy living in plebland.
>>324043880
shit taste t b h
>>324043680
I agree. Mario's jumps are awful in 3.
What does /v/ think about super mario bros2?
>>324043806
>>324043680
Are you fucking stupid? Holy shit SMWfags love just plain making things up.
>>324044089
Shit. I only bothered finishing it once.
>>324044089
I like it. It was my first mario game.
>>324044089
It's better than SMW. It's great.
>>324044264
>It's better than SMW
wow
now this is some fucking bait
World was a huge improvement on everything except world aesthetics and power ups
Only delusional faggots who cry about m-muh nostalgia will disagree
>>324043562
>SMW
>with all the SMB3 powerups hacked in
>>324044089
Both versions are good.
>>324038089
your mom is very tight
Does anybody have a picture of all the 2D super mario games in order of release?
i know it goes 1 -> 2 -> 3
but i don't know what comes after that. world? then what? the ds games?
>>324044379
No it isn't. I agree with him.
>>324044779
1. Super Mario Bros
2. Super Mario Bros 2
3. Super Mario Bros 3
4. Super Mario World
5. Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
6. New Super Mario Bros
7. New Super Mario Bros Wii
8. New Super Mario Bros 2
9. New Super Mario Bros U
>>324044379
>Any opinion that contradicts what my nostalgia goggles say is bait
Interesting image you picked out.
>>324045283
2 is the worst mario game though, that's the community consensus
>>324045378
it's fucking miles better than smb1 and the whole nsmb sub-series
>>324045486
This. Except maybe for NSMBU. That game is surprisingly really really good.
>>324045486
That's a fucking lie and you know it.
>>324045639
>smb1
>better than anything other than the lost levels
>>324045486
Nah, smb2 will always be absolute bottom tier in any list of mario games.
>>324040479
im with this dood
yall nostalgia'd as fuck. ive gone back and played both recently and honestly both are mediocre compared to current gen games
SMW -> easy as fuck but at least it was innovative
SMB3 -> 20 second levels and just keep your speed at max with racoon and laugh at everything
seriously SMB3 you just P-Wing and instant win any fucking level by flying the whole time... what a challenging game. You can double flute from first act to end of the game and beat it in less than 15 minutes what a joke
both were a joke faggots
mario kart 64 is god tier tho
>>324038089
>SMW sprites
>ugly
gif related is where this opinion belongs
>>324038089
>ITT: Shit taste versus shit taste
the only good mario game isMario Dance Dance Revolution
>>324045885
>>324043009
I'd rather play alex kid on master system than a DKC
Yoshi's Island is better than them both anyway, so stop arguing.
>>324046041
i seriously went back and played SMW recently remembering how great it was from my childhood
totally finished the game and all the secret levels in less than 3 hours basically losing only 1 or 2 lives to fuck ups
game is easy as fuck and super short. you only want to remember your feels of being a child before you became a depressed social deviant autist.
>>324045723
but lost levels was fucking better than smb1
dude your opinions are shit all over. Get your life together.
I feel like this debate is entirely fueled by nostalgia in the end.
But at last we can agree that the All-Stars version of SMB3 is objectively the best one, right?
Man I really wish Nintendo released All-Stars on the eShop, I'd buy it in an instant
>>324046149
But anon, Yoshi's Island is shit outside of it's neat artstyle.
>>324046260
No, it's because it's not about how easy it is. It's fun regardless.
>>324046149
/vouch
>>324046260
>>324045885
me
yoshis island was graphically superior to both and was also more challenging and entertaining
>>324046315
>Being this clueless about platformers
>>324042272
fuck that sun
>>324046286
fucking this >>324042637 >>324043608
>>324043373
SM3 is CSGo ( tight and tactical)
SMW is Quake = large and open
>>324046286
But then who would buy this version? Surely you think it's worth full retail price:^)
>>324046315
>the best platformer is bad
Reddit, ladies and gentlemen.
>>324046428
Don't be too hard on yourself, anon.
>>324046596
>World isn't even in it
>>324041206
Those are not Goombas you shitlord they're Kuribos.
>>324046498
Excwpt that the main mechanic in smw3 isnt based on rng so your analogy fails.
>>324046618
Where'd he say anything about Super Mario Galaxy?
>>324041206
But they are Galoombas you dumbass
SMW doesn't have Goombas
They're both good, stop trying to start pointless shitwars, chldren.
>>324045258
im surprised they never tried to make a game specifically for the GB or GBA
>>324047181
Super Mario Land series exists.
>>324045378
I don't give a fuck about the gamefaqs community.
>>324041523
>overpowered
Explain to me how the Raccoon Suit isn't overpowered then when you can keep P-speed going through fucking pipes.
>>324048539
oh man this is one of the 2 levels in the entire game that even takes a shred of skill
>pwing before level and fly the whole time
>dont even get to see any of the level as you cross the finish
>Playing Mario games as an adult
Why would you do this?
>>324049717
>playing video games as an adult
You tell me.
>>324049717
Because I'm not an insecure grade-schooler who worries about what others think about my video games.
super mario bros > super mario bros 3 > super mario world
at least half the levels in smw are unfun garbage
But undertale is clearly the best game since it beat super mario in a contest!
>>324051756
Why would you make this post?
>>324038089
Yes, SMB4 really felt like a launch title. Despite that it ended up being a decent game.
