Thoughts on ENB filters, SweetFX, and Reshade?
Pic related, a recent ENB created for Dragon's Dogma. I'll post the original screencap next.
And here's END disabled. I heard ENB's DOF is really awful, I'll likely try to disable it with Dragon's Dogma. DOF is such an awful feature, adding blur to a game rarely improves it.
>>323917134
All retarded bullshit that kills performance for over saturated over DoF screenshots
Both look like shit lad.
>>323917134
>1440x900
You are aware that DD is now available on PC, right?
looks good as fuck honestly
>>323917134
Can't you fucking autists just play teh game instead of doing nothing but modding.
>>323917227
>adding blur to a game rarely improves it.
It's realistic.
>wanting pee filters over your game
no thanks. if anything i will install mods to remove post processing effects.
I wonder, is there a sweetfx filter or whatever you can use to make literally ANY game look like the order? All the order has is just a bunch of post processing effects, I'd be surprised if no one did such a thing yet.
>>323917134
>>323917227
The only good thing I see is the shadows for the pieces of wood at the lower right. I'd like only that if I were to use reshade or whatever.
SweetFX in GTAV is a huge improvement over the vanilla but it drops fps quite a bit. Using the "1000 times better" preset.
>>323918754
Everyone who ever says that shit are people running toasters.
Every time. You don't even need a good machine to run this stuff anon. It's okay.
>>323919176
God look at those jaggies though.
>>323918431
>has the opportunity to make the game look nicer
>b-but you gotta play it locked at 30fps with no enhancing to the graphics 'cause that's how the developer wanted it to look like, not because the platform i play is total underpowered garbage!!!
Fucking peasants dude
>>323919195
>You don't even need a good machine to run this stuff anon. It's okay.
Especially if you only dabble with color filters and such, without modding DoF, AO and else. It sometimes does wonders at no performance hit at all.
>>323919380
>not because the platform i play is total underpowered garbage!!!
>says the one who still doesn't have a port of a four year old console game
>>323917134
>Thoughts on ENB filters, SweetFX, and Reshade?
They're literally useless and add nothing of worth to any game.
>>323918431
>Reshades
>modding
Adding saturation and contrast filters over a game is not modding. You are a fucking moron if you think otherwise.
>>323919523
The game's been out for a week, and besides that I have no idea how that's relevant to his point, you just come off as desperate.
>>323919674
>Adding saturation and contrast filters over a game is not modding. You are a fucking moron if you think otherwise.
ENB is not a "filter over a game", it's a 3D lighting injection software. That's modding. Reshade and SweetFX both inject AA, that's modding.
Thinking otherwise would probably make you a fucking moron.
>>323917134
>adding blur and DoF to a game makes it better
Shit fucking taste 101
>>323919523
>tfw you have the original Dragons Dogma and Dark Arisen but can't wait to play the game a third time as the definitive edition on Pc.
Game is good but when it was released it had ps2 tier graphics and was in letterbox.
No reason not to tweak the graphics to look better if you have the options to do so.
I only turn on bloom for games that have night time street lights. The rest of the options are off 90% of the time, because why would I waste frames making shit harder to see with horrible DOF and blur?
>>323919693
>PC is better than consoles, look at these meaningless numbers that prove the platform's superiority!
>e-except for the lack of Japanese games...
>a-and exclusives...
>we're lucky to be even getting ports at all!
>OH THANK YOU BASED [company] FOR THIS DELAYED CONSOLE PORT!
>BUT THOSE DON"T COUNT!
>>323919295
I play with AA off apart from SweetFX SMAA which does fuck all.
My performance hit is worse with MSAA 2x on than with just SweetFX and SweetFX brings out the colors, sharpens the textures (which can make the aliasing more apparent) but it also makes nighttime proper dark, water and ocean looks vibrant and whatever "haze" rockstar put over the whole screen is gone and colors stand out more but not too vibrant.
Worth playing with jaggies in that sense then, than vanilla with 2x MSAA, which affects my FPS more, also downsampling makes it even worse even without SweetFX or any AA on and FXAA is vaseline smear over your screen.
You just have to make trade offs if you want your game to look pretty and I made mine. Also these are compressed Steam screenshots and they look worse cause of that.
>>323919523
Jokes on you fag, even tho pc is my main platform i have a 360, ps3 and ps4
ENB DOF is shit, if you want to use ENB then use it only for SSAO and better shadows.
>>323920023
Would love to hear what your idea of meaningless numbers are.
I unironically use Reshade to force chromatic aberration in games that don't have it. It makes bumpmaps and reflections look better. Also film grain makes any game look better, especially console ports with wildly inconsistent texture quality like Dark Souls and Dragon's Dogma.
>>323920182
>I have a $1,000 paperweight in addition to dedicated game machines
>but muh performance
>WELL I'M TOTALLY FINE WITH INFERIOR PERFORMANCE IF PC DOESN'T GET IT EITHER WAY
why not just buy a console
yes children, blur everything
Finding a good ENB out of all the eyestraining ones can prove to be a hard task, but if you do, you'll know it.
>>323919847
>>323919847
>That's modding. Reshade and SweetFX both inject AA, that's modding.
I'll give you ENB, but this is where you're wrong. Reshades are just post-processing effects which require no "injection" of any kind into the software. It's literally the equivalent of adding a Photoshop filter to your games.
>>323918537
99% of LCD monitors produce plenty of perceived motion blur on their own. There is absolutely no reason to add more.
>>323920042
I d-don't even notice the jaggies when I get so into the game and just having fun
>>323918537
I never understood this reasoning. Sure, motion blurring and head bobbing happens in real life, but your brain filters it out for the most part. You have to pay especial attention to even notice it. Its not like when you suddenly look at something to your right the entire world goes blurry and shit. Maybe to a tiny, tiny degree should these two things be in games, but it should be a lot more subtle than it is.
>>323920339
Because i cant stand to play games like witcher 3 on mid settings and 20fps when i know i have the possibility to play it as it is supposed to be played.
Plus, most of my friends play pc and there's tons of other shit i can do while gaming on my pc
>>323920339
I know you're baiting at this point but you're aware that the PC has more exclusives than any dedicated gaming machine in the history of video games, right?
The idea that pc, the largest market for games, is scrambling for exclusives and ports when it's dominating the entire market is pretty silly
7/10 made me reply
>>323920362
Is there an indoor screenshot of this preset?
Looks comfy as fuck.
How much is the performance impact of ENB or sweetfx?
Some look way too saturated
>>323920390
You clearly don't know how reshade or sweetfx work. They are in fact dll injections.
God, when will this sweetfx meme end.
>MORE BLUR
>MORE BLOOM
>MORE FUCKING DOF I CAN STILL MAKE OUT THE TEXTURES
>MORE FUCKING SATURATION, THAT SHADOW DOESNT BLOCK ENOUGH DETAILS
>>323920362
>red tint instead of green tint
Shit.
>>323921048
but the textures in this game are dogshit so why wouldn't i want to blur them out
>>323920725
>you're aware that the PC has more exclusives than any dedicated gaming machine in the history of video games, right?
Then why is it always PKeks who are clamoring for console exclusives? Why don't you ever see consolefags begging for PC games?
>The idea that pc, the largest market for games
>PC
>anything other than a fucking mere afterthought
That's why everyone is porting all those old console games, right? That's why Destiny isn't on PC, right? That's why GTA ALWAYS comes to PC after the console versions, right?
>>323920951
They use dlls in order to run those shitty Photoshop filters each time you launch the game. It injects no such code into the game engine itself. Please stay wrong.
>>323921048
>saturation blocks details
Wow you're stupid.
>>323921129
Even if a console is a machine created mainly for games a PC is still a superior alternative to gaming, don't try do deny it. Developers just focus on console releases because it's easier.
>>323917134
I was watching disney channel and family guy on two TVs when I was told about this game. I went out to the gamestop and bought it and got home on the same day and played it on my third TV. I hated that game! I was ASS!
>>323921131
It injects code into the game, code which loads up the shaders whenever the game is launched. You said there is no injection of any kind. You're retarded.
>PCucks can't respect the original intentions and vision of the creators and play the game unaltered as intended
>have to shit on carefully crafted visual design with horrible """"HD"""" filteraped textures and shitty modern bloom and blur shaders that make the game look shitty and suck up vram while doing so
wew lad, this is the power of PC
>>323921129
If you can suffer through these "numbers" that you despise, the graph to the left here that nvidia provided months ago, shows that what I just said is exactly the case.
You're silly!
>>323921498
The game looks pretty bleak to be fair.
All it needs is slightly better saturation.
>>323917134
It can helps some games a bit, Skyrim being the biggest example, but for NOT utter shit looking bethesda titles its usually meh to nothing - like your screenshot
The difference is barely perceptible, and doesn't really matter.
>>323921185
Look at OPs pics and tell me it doesn't.
Oh wait you probably use this shit, meaning you're as blind as a snake.
>>323919176
Literally what? It looks like the base game.
>>323920764
Somewhere, maybe.
If you'll ever be using it, install Climates of Tamriel together with it and disable all the DOF.
Probably the best skyrim preset.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJF7h-pmSjc
>>323921478
Yes, and that's not a modification of the software. It's literally third-party software running alongside the game in order to display those useless filters.
>>323921626
Making shadows darker isn't what saturation does, look up the words before spouting things you don't understand, retard.
>>323918537
no it's pseudo-cinematic, the only way DOF would be realistic is if the game could accurately determine in real-time which part of the screen/image the player's eyes are focused on at any moment
>>323921498
You're right, we should totally play just like consoles are supposed to!
>>323917134
>1440x900
kek, just go away
>>323921626
Do you even know what saturation is?
CONTRAST might do what you're complaining about, you fucking mong.
If you use DOF you'd might as well put in a mod that adds in your character's transparent nose, because if you like seeing things your brain automatically corrects you'd might as well go the whole nine yards.
>ITT: consolefags telling the mustard race that they are blind
>they literally play upscaled 1080p games at 24 or less fps with no aa whatsoever everyday and think it looks ok
Im confused, I thought you guys didnt give a shit about graphics, why would you even come to a pc thread about graphics?
>>323921129
>Why don't you ever see consolefags begging for PC games?
Consoles are easy to make money on because you are fine with what you are given.
You have no standards, you don't god damn care.
The only thing to have caused an actual negative reaction amongst consolefags in the last two decades is the Xbone banning used game sales - because while Some % of PC users pirate - nearly all of you love selling your games (which is worse than piracy to the developer).
Why would you open a restaurant when you can get more money making a fast food joint?
This is the difference between console and PC.
Now you can tell me how fast food is better than a proper meal in a restaurant.
>>323919295
The fuck you talking about? That's GTA not Monster Hunter.
>>323920764
Hope this pleases you.
>dof
>motion blur
>oversaturation
>exaggerated bloom, lens flare etc.
no thx
>>323921831
It still amazes me how good DS looked with just a resolution upgrade. Everything was so detailed despite the game never being intended to run at a resolution where you'd actually be able to tell the difference.
>>323921684
>useless filters.
How simple minded are you? There are many games which provide no saturation, brightness, contrast or gamma settings. Those "filters" are very useful to people who aren't shit eaters and care about proper composition.
>>323920042
It looks just like vanilla GTAV
>>323921386
>a PC is still a superior alternative to gaming
Yup, when a game takes literal years to come to PC, that's because the platform is too good for the game. When most PC versions of multiplats barely even work, that's because the platform is just THAT GOOD. Who fucking needs Japanese games, we got VNs which are automatically superior to anything those console peasants have. Except for Dragon's Dogma, that game is a masterpiece now that it's on PC.
>Developers just focus on console releases because it's significantly more profitable.
ftfy
>>323921552
Then why isn't PC a more relevant platform? Surely, these numbers would mean nearly EVERYONE would support PC, and with actual support instead of just ports.
>>323921931
>comparing PC to a restaurant
that's why all it has are console scraps and leftovers lmao
>>323921831
>dof override
Holy shit why I never checked that out
>Amazing View
>everything farther than 20 meters is a blurred sack of shit
>>323921129
You didn't see the 20 X-com2 petitions?
Portbegging is just annoying in general.
>>323921831
DSfix doesnt change the visuals unless you tell it to though. It just unlocks the internal res because From locked it at below console res. You're still playing it with the correct visuals, just at a higher res.
ENB, SweetFX and the like are cancer though.
>>323921048
>All ENBs are worse than vanilla
God, when will this meme end...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvtX-QZkzYU
>>323922049
>There are many games which provide no saturation, brightness, contrast or gamma settings.
And you realize every single one of these things can simply be tweaked within your own monitor settings? How is that not useless?
>>323921129
>Why don't you ever see consolefags begging for PC games?
Consolefags by their very nature, don't know anything about good video games, so why would they even know to complain about it?
They're buying underpowered and overpriced machines, paying for p2p networking services, and physical media.
Why would they know that there are good PC games to play? They think 24fps is cinematic and that 720p upresed looks the same as 1080.
>>323922092
>that's why all it has are console scraps and leftovers lmao
So you cannot make a reasonable response, enjoy your cum-burger.
>>323922190
>ENB, SweetFX and the like are cancer though.
Why is having more choices "cancer" for you?
Are you sure you are not posting from a PS4?
Having more choices doesn't mean you HAVE to take them, grow the fuck up.
>>323922092
>Yup, when a game takes literal years to come to PC, that's because the platform is too good for the game
>resorting to irony
The mentality of a child.
>>323922018
The mat makers were pretty damn based making high quality textures and leaving them in even though they get blurred to shit on consoles.
>>323922018
I dunno, I have my PS3 hooked up to my monitor and played it on there, that and DeS looked fine at the 720p it displays at. I could still make out all the details, but 1080p does make certain ones pop more. All the player armor uses some really detailed textures.
>>323922234
Really? Tweak your monitor, a general purpose display for everything you do on the computer, for one game? And do you not realize that different games require different tweaks?
>>323922180
None of which were ever fulfilled. Meanwhile a fucking obvious as FUCK falseflag petition for Blooborne was almost fulfilled. Who's the one begging for games now?
>>323922237
yeah ok, whatever makes you sleep at night
>>323922238
>>323922332
>i have no rebuttals
>>323922092
I understand that you don't believe literally anything you're saying but there ARE people out there that genuinely believe this. That think it's genuinely a "meme" that the PC version of every release is the best version (maybe not arkham knight, though).
Because somehow having more options and better controls is a bad thing.
>>323922439
Not everyone is as autistic about such trivial things like saturation and contrast as you. But if it makes you happy, by all means, go ahead and enjoy your "mods", kiddo.
Game needs better textures and normal maps before you move onto shaders
>>323922601
Epic
Stick to consoles, redditor
>>323922547
>implying i'll ever try and have a decent discussion let alone develop a rebuttal for a passive aggressive shitter
Not in a million years. Good day.
>>323922549
PC gaming itself is a fucking meme. The only reason it's popular is because the userbase consists entirely of console migrants.
>>323922549
These people don't know the word "potential".
Everything is potentially far superior on PC
Everything has limited potential on a console.
As the console limit hampers our potential, these shitposters can only latch on to faults - that their platform causes.
>>323917134
Can't form much of an opinion. Everyone seems to just want to make it so you can't see shit. I have tried to use some a few times but goddamn darkness isn't pitch black you niggers. So fuck it, I'll do my own thing.
Oh lord, my thread has devolved into petty quarrels and nondescript disagreement.
Before this thread passes away, allow me to share a PSA with bretheren eagerly awaiting Dragon Dogma's unlock. You can use a free VPN, set it to New Zealand, and play DD 20 hours early due to time zone differences. There are many different tutorial threads on /r/Fallout because tons of people used it for the FO4 release.
Also, bonus tip: Amazon Waifu, pic related.
>>323922012
i don't get it
>>323922694
Ah, there it is, the classic 'le reddit' maneuver.
We're done here. I humbly accept your withdrawal from the discussion.
>>323920362
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61377/?
If I still played skyrim I'd probably use this for maximum comfy
>>323922694
I didn't spend $1.5k on PC parts to tweak saturation and contrast and pretend I'm modding. I'm pretty sure there's a nice subreddit for that purpose you might like though.
>>323922834
Well this thread has most definitely peaked in stupidity with this post.
See you guys around
>>323917134
I really dislike most of these post processing injectors. I'm not sure why, but they always make things look somewhat off, especially in terms of oversaturated colours.
People who defend exclusives are idiots that support anti-consumer practices
multiplat games 4 lyfe
>>323922882
Much like how PC could 'potentially' be a viable alternative to consoles.
>>323922947
>thinks his classic 'le autist' maneuver is any better
>>323922215
This would be good if there was some way to transition enb's based on what the weather is like, it'd be perfect for overcast days.
>>323918431
If you enjoy lack of freedom just go buy a console
>>323923045
Exactly, its not happening ever because closed platforms make far more money.
It seemingly just takes very little for a pleb to explain to himself that "me getting exploited means I am superior".
>>323922954
Surely you spent it to take it up the ass from devs and just accept any shit they throw at you without any tweaks. Totally not a shit eating console faggot.
>>323923018
just to blow your mind.
you can change the saturation the way you like it.
>omg guys look everything is dark and blur i'm a 1337 hacker
ENBfags are indisputably retarded.
>>323922913
You realize they're customizable, right? ENBs and Reshade let you toggle individual effects and tweak every variable. If moving sliders around for 5 minutes to find the best config for you is too much effort, you might as well play the console version.
>>323921498
>PCucks can't respect the original intentions and vision of the creators and play the game unaltered as intended
Except even the designers of dragon's dogma said the black bars were added because of engine and console limitations
Get fucking wrekd m8
>>323923237
I know you can, in fact injectors might be nice if you set them up yourself, I just never bother.
Can you adjust gamma etc., it would be quite nice to have a generic injector for all games that mimics and ICC profile. As most games take control of colour (at least in dedicated fullscreen).
>>323922092
>Then why isn't PC a more relevant platform?
I think it's because the companies behind each console (sony, ms, ninty) are doing things and making deals to help them survive and grow as companies, which end up making gaming better. Stuff like sony hiring kojima, or microsoft coming out with a customizable controller.
Plus, exclusivity deals mean $$$$.
I use SweetFX for a ton of games to fix contrast and color issues. Seems like most games are made for TV's where color range is limited from 0-255 to 16-235.
When you view one of these games on a monitor, it's going to look washed out or too white.
go to sfx.thelazy.net and pick any game and check out the comparisons
>>323923018
This is the problem, you people don't really know what they are, just see what some retard created and "hate" them.
ENBs are practically just a far extended range of graphical settings for your game.
I can understand that you don't WANT to fuck around for 5-10 hours to make the game looks far better to your liking - but it doesn't make them bad.
This is exactly the same as when consolefags go
>hurr yeah mods cause I want furries and horse anuses in my game
What is made - and what CAN be made are two different things.
![500x_borderslands2_405[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/o13Jm5T.jpg "500x_borderslands2_405[1].jpg")
>>323918537
this is total bullshit. I remember playing Borderlands on console and when you were ADS more than half the screen was blurred out to ridiculous degrees. Newsflash, I have my own eyes which do DOF on their own, I don't need a fucking shader to help me blur background shit out
>>323917134
I usually have trouble setting them up for some reason, but I've used them without complaint before. I'll probably try to use one for Dragon's Dogma just to make it look a little different since the last time I played it on the Xbox 360.
>>323922918
I'd make her then turn her into a dragon.
>>323923553
>Newsflash, I have my own eyes which do DOF on their own
Hey you dumb piece of shit you don't get the same sort of blur when you're looking at a screen because there's no actual difference in distance to your eye so you don't have to refocus to look around the screen.
Feel free to not like DoF but admit you're just memeing.
>>323923426
I use sweetfx a lot for that shit. Many devs are fucking retards. Fallout 4 for example didn't even have a single setting for brightness/gamma, and it was super bright and washed out.
>>323917134
Anybody got working SLI bits?
>>323923470
PC doesn't have a Microsoft, Sony, or Nintendo. THAT is the platform's ultimate weakness. nVidia survives off poorly optimized console ports. Valve survives off selling hats and cosmetics for their shit games. No PC centric company actually cares about it as a platform, only the services they provide.
And before you say ANYTHING about Microsoft, anything short of them treating Xbox and PC as one platform is not support. It's not fair that the Xbox gets all these shiny games, but Windows does not. MS doesn't care about PC, now that the Xbox is doing what they always wanted.
>>323923553
>Newsflash, I have my own eyes which do DOF on their own
I laugh every time some retard says this. You don't get natural DOF from a 2d screen.
>>323922237
>Why would they know that there are good PC games to play? They think 24fps is cinematic and that 720p upresed looks the same as 1080.
The weird thing is, when a console player switches to PC, they begin to notice all these little things they have never noticed before.
>>323923973
>they begin to notice all these little things they have never noticed before.
Especially all the platform's weaknesses.
>hey, why isn't final fantasy here
>where's GTA
>uhh, Red Dead?
>fucking hell, what a waste
>>323923686
DOF is still bullshit. If you look at my picture and look at the spire in the background then the in focus piece of cover (whatever that's supposed to be) becomes slightly blurry on its own unless you're playing on a 10 inch TV from the 90s
>>323923861
This is scary anon, what you are talking about is that PC is not OWNED by one company and thus nobody is "fueling the fire" under it.
While you should be able to realize that it is what makes it better than consoles.
Anyone can develop for PC without paying any mother company royalties (unlike consoles), so theres could be actual competition on it.
You can't just say "well my game is exclusive so its automatically better", when anyone can sell one like it and anyone can buy it.
Your beloved companies aim to make the most money through the least work, so they restrict you to having to buy their shit, having to pay for online, having to use their choices of software, and they can do it without having to work hard or make something good - because theres no direct competition. A person who only owns one console will buy any exclusive for it practically, even if its totally shit.
>nvidia survives
You have no idea how well nvidia is doing these days
>valve survives
You do realize vales does zero work and gets a 30% cut of everything sold on Steam, right?
Its consoles which are "surviving" through carrot-on-a-stick exclusives.
>>323924116
Anon are you posting from 2012?
ENB can really look amazing in certain games and I use it all the time, but I will never understand the appeal of DOF.
I disable that shit as soon as I can.
>>323924116
>Red Dead?
Your average console player's moved on from red dead by now; it's been 5 years.
>GTA
Do people care about GTA anymore? San Andreas, AKA the best GTA, already came out on ps2 and is also on PC (though the port's a bit bad, from what I've heard
>FF
Got me there.
>>323920362
Everything but the argonian looks like shit in the bottom pic
>>323924631
The first two games got delayed PC versions. RDR still does not exist on PC.
>>323921498
That's a big mouth for someone's franchise who's been all but left in the dust by Crapcom faggot.
Face it, there's no respect for your pitiful franchise, as "good" as it may be. Any chance for respect lies on us buying it. And we'll face fuck it, rape it, spit on it, punch her in the face as we fucking please you peasant, so fuck off. This is no matter for entitled console children like you.
>>323923973
Most people notice that shit whether they realize it or not. Call of Duty has always had 60fps, Other console FPS that focus on MUH GRAPHICS feel like garbage compared to the smoothness COD offers. Playing Nintendo games and then playing 3rd party trash is also jarring
>>323922237
>Why would they know that there are good PC games to play? All PC has is undertale
ftfy
>>323921914fox and grapes, general ass pain
>tfw like DoF in pictures but in motion makes me sick
I just turn that shit off asap in every game. Wish I could enjoy it like most people seem to.
>>323924839
I'd say capcom does not give a shit in that manner about anything.
Porting DDDA over was cheap as fuck, its MT framework and it didn't get new content.
Theres a very very good chance they just did it so DDO won't be a total noname whatisthat game when it gets released.
>>323921796
playing first person it forces you to look with your character more than you normally would at least
I think it helps with immersion in that regard
obviously eye tracking vr would really tighten that up
>>323917134
All of them are wonderful, look what a few graphical improvements can do to Half Life 2, a 12 year old game. Consoles are fine for people who don't really give a shit, but PC gaming will always take the cake for being the flat-out best.
>>323925406
I'm pretty sure most people don't - its just very hard for /v/ to grasp the idea that when they see these SCREENSHOTS they are seeing an ENB setup made TO TAKE SCREENSHOTs with.
They all immediately assume LOL YOU PLAY WITH ERRYTHING BLURRY HAHAHA
>>323923838
YO CUNTS ANSWER THIS
>>323925496
this dseu family
dragon's dogmaas good as it isis on life support. PC release is to get numbers up to test the waters for a ddo western release
Consoles have a lot to compensate for in this thread I see
Can someone post that Arma 3 webm?
>>323925519
>Fakefactory
You know what time it is
>>323925773
j u s t
>>323925773
Got webbums of the pissing?
>>323917134
>See all this posts abozut how great the game is because it got ported to Pc
>Have the urge to play it again on Pc because i never finished it on Ps 3
>Realize that better graphics will not cure the core problems of the game
>>323925826
>>323925773
>make an extensive, if not visually impressive retexture and remodel of characters and scenery
>don't even bother respecting the artist's original vision
>>323925773
FULLY
MODELED
>artists vision
What is there to respect about the artists vision if it's shit?
>>323925773
>>323925925
STOP IT
VAJJ
>>323922237
this
if they had ever played or were good at pc specific rpgs/shooters they'd know
if they can't play it with auto aim/lock on it isnt fun for them
>>323917134
I usually dont use those filters because i dont know where to search them or config them properly.
Here is one i used and dont regret.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mv5fUWOxrU
Mute if you will.
The only thing i dont like is Depth of Field effect.
>>323921636
>>323922050
The difference is in darker shadows, more saturation, sharpened image etc.
Its not subtle but its not in your face with bloom, dof and a shitton of unnecessary post process FX, thats how I like my games anyways.
Pic is SweetFX off
>>323923861
>No PC centric company actually cares about it as a platform, only the services they provide.
It's not that they don't care, it's that they don't have the power. PCs mostly give power to the user, and as such any company using the PC doesn't really have the power to make the PC space as a whole better. For example, when making a console game, you can expect them to be using the controller made for the console and design around that. On the PC, you can maybe expect people to have use a keybord/mouse, but it's possible that they're using a controller, or that the mouse is a "gaming mouse" that has more buttons than the average mouse, or any number of possibilities. Valve is the closest thing to a sony/ms/ninty company the pc has, since nearly everyone benefits from the steam marketplace existing. Unfortunately, it seems all of valve's recent attempts at expanding the pc market failed. the steam controller was panned, steamboxen were seen as just another prebuilt computer (which they admittedly were), and did the steamOS even come out?
>>323925773
>>323925925
NOT THE FERNS
>>323922049
>and care about proper composition.
Hahahaha, are you implying reshade/enb shitters know a thing about colour or composition?
>>323926521
SweetFX on
>>323926168
I know right? Check out this motherboard belt
>>323926684
SweetFX off
>>323926521
>>323926684
God, dont want be a jerk, but i would trade all that filters for some real AA.
Not like my pc can handle it
>>323926684
>>323926817
I bet those jaggies are stylistical choices
>>323924783
>"Everything ... argonian looks like shit ..."
I'm glad we agree
>>323926631
Are you implying devs do? These tools allow you to decide for yourself what's proper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNiW6ken-5A
>>323926817
On
>>323926883
Nah, performance trade-offs >>323920042
I prefer the effects of SweetFX to having it off and having MSAA 2x which the impact on performance is heavier
>>323926684
Better gamma, but the sharpening butchers the image quality.
>>323926867
Just supersample.
Same thing with DD, lots of jaggies unless you render at 4k.
>>323927069
Yeah I've noticed, I might modify this one and see how it looks with the lumasharpen
See pic related, it doesn't look this bad in motion in game but I might as well see how it looks with sharpening off.
>>323926896
>Are you implying devs do?
Are you retarded? People who study art and lighting and composition and work for years as lighting engineers and enviroment artist know it a lot better than some retarded 14yo with a hardon for saturation and removing that "blue fog" that looks "unrealistic"
>>323925967
>there's a character editor that you use right before the game starts that lets you keep the original models
>you don't even have to use the mod
>you still complain
See, that's the thing about PC, you have options. You aren't limited to one thing.
>>323924469
Are you unironically implying that independence is a GOOD thing for a platform? Because I assure you, most people would gladly use nVidia hardware if it meant the platform actually got some fucking games, and not depend entirely on the whims of the publishers. PC is already a fucking console at this point, might as well go all the way.
>>323927101
Isnt supersampling from 1080 to 4k even more demanding than forcing 2x or 4x AA in the Inspector?
>>323917134
This was posted in another thread. Seems to be the best config ive seen yet.
https://sfx.thelazy.net/games/preset/5000/
>>323927194
without* the lumasharpen I meant
Heres my last comparison, to show >>323921636 what an idiot he is
SweetFX off
>>323927461
SweetFX On
Now I'm gonna go disable lumasharpen and see how it looks then.
>>323927362
Situational. On low fidelity games, supersampling can be more efficient, not only does it depend on the complexity of the scene, it depends on typical objects. If the interpolation used by most AA regimes is simple then a postprocessing AA is usually less demanding.
Given that DD is fairly low fidelity, rendering at 4k doesn't require good hardware. 1440p->1080p downsampling should be possible for most GPUs.
>>323927362
>>323927101
How to supersample?
>>323921498
>respect the artistic vision
>original had black bars and ran at 20fps
Yeah I'm sure that was by design.
>>323927362
All my supersampling attempts in GTAV with Dynamic Super Resolution gave me worse performance than just MSAA 2x on, which isn't much an improvement either.
I tried to force AA on with AMD Radeon settings but it doesn't work in half my games including GTAV
>>323922215
>Cant see shit inside slightly dark places or during nighttime.
DAMN I SURE LIKE GETTING SPOTTED BY ENEMIES I CANNOT SEE EVERY FUCKING MINUTE THANKS ENB!
>>323926909
>>323926515
Two vids of the same guy. Are you shilling?
>>323926727
I SAID STOP
more ferns
>>323927648
AMD you can do it directly in catalyst as 'Virtual Super Resolution'.
For Nvidia either force SSAA (which sometimes has issues), or use DSR (Dynamic Super Resolution). I think both can be enabled in inspector.
>>323927224
Oh, yeah, all these years of art and lighting and composition studying. Devs are all knowing. Check out this perfection.
You fucking mongoloid.
>>323927275
Yes you stupid sack of dumb shit.
PC is "lacking" games (not really) because your precious companie are closing their walled garden and keep quite literally do deals that hurt the gamer - your consoles NEED their exclusives to be worth buying, you are whining about PC not having the same exclusives instead of whining about NOT HAVING ALL GAMES AVAILABLE TO ALL, even though clearly that would be the best FOR YOU, THE FUCKING CONSUMER.
But why am I educating some retard who doesn't even understand the relations of nvidia hardware and computers themselves.
To someone who has no idea what competition is and is clearly fine shoveling shit down his face and thinks the less competition is there, the more shit will be shoved down their face.
>>323927275
>platform has more games than any other platform combined
"if it actually got any games"
>PC is already a console at this point
I'm going to assume you're trolling, because I fail to believe anyone could be this stupid.
It's not a matter of opinion, the things you are saying are factually incorrect. They aren't true. They are false. You are lying to yourself.
>>323922215
>all those non-canon weapons
The ENB looks.. okay.. but those guns trigger my autism something awful, yo.
>>323928008
Nobody liked the blue tint, you're correct anon.
Fortunately if you're playing on PC you can install sweetFX and fix that garbage.
>>323917134
im going to play it without any kind of graphic mod because i dont care
>>323927224
I really don't understand this logic. Is it that hard for you to comprehend the fact that some devs are clueless about any of that shit and that some people who play video games and tweak that shit actually know a thing or two about composition?
Why do you think that devs are automatically better than any given person who plays video games and uses tools to tweak the lighting to his liking? Especially since this person could be a dev as well. You're an idiot.
>>323927224
Two main issues.
Firstly, the artistic direction for a game is far detached from the end output. The way an engine will render the lighting significantly is fairly limiting, and, after optimisation passes, colour correction etc., you end up with something quite far from the original design.
Secondly, most people have crappy monitors, and you have to do a lot to get an acceptable image on them. As a result, the colour profile of most games are designed to make the game playable on a £120, 1080p, 21" monitor - subtle colour gradients, contrast, lighting variations etc., are out of the window.
Even in such cases, unless you calibrate the monitor as best you can, the image will be awful. Looking at most of the injector profiles, they're designed to compensate for lousy monitors, hence - if you use anything good - you find a godawful oversaturated image, with retina burning contrast.
Lastly, I think that some of the lighting and colour design in games is amateurish. Poor quality work, done by game designed, and 3D modellers, rather than anybody with a clue.
>>323928335
and get promptly banned because DICE are hostile fucks to all forms of modding and users messing with their precious perfect artistic vision
>>323928335
In fact, everything after the atmospheric scattering is shit.
I'm guessing the cracked version doesn't have the online pawn shit?
Does the game get better? I'm considering buying it, but so far it doesn't seem that good. Basically ever fight is just RB + X to do that sword dash attack because it does a ton of damage, staggers enemies & gapcloses
DoF is fine for screenshots. Having a static longer distance DoF is fine too if you're playing a game with shit LoD.
>>323928962
I still didnt play, but i heard that magic is the real kicker in the game. give it a try
>>323928962
It has everything, including pawns.
>>323928008
Step 15 is perfect.
>>323928962
ive only played a little but that move really does seem OP, it should cost way more stamina or something
I only use Sweetfx on games that should be very colorful but for some reason have dull and bland colors instead.
Darksiders 2 and Kingdoms of Amalur for example.
>>323928962
I haven't played warrior (for once). I'm either going to go mystic archer or mystic knight. I'm finding the game overly simple so far, but never-the-less entertaining. It's a pocket-sized RPG in many ways, good for 45 minutes after you get home from work, before cooking dinner.
>>323927587
Right then.
SweetFX off
>>323930410
Sweet FX on with lumasharpen
I had lots of fun replaying old games thanks to SweeFX.
>>323930534
Sweet FX without lumasharpen
Which looks best?
Ignoring AA which is off entirely.
>>323930410
>>323930534
personal opnion: No sharpen is better.
>>323917134
Thanks, I wanted to have the bad eyesight experience
>>323930713
Yeah I kinda agree, looks better on screenshots too, also last screen had different shadow settings that I was messing with so this is one with AMD CHSS which all the previous screens had.
>>323930653
Looks better with lumasharpen.
Lumasharpen also helps with AA.
>>323930032
I prefer sharpen, although it's a bit too intense. Would be nice to soften shadows a bit.
>>323929483
my nigga
>>323930876
>Lumasharpen also helps with AA.
Does it really?
Here's my last comparison test because I just wanna play my game now, no AA.
SweetFX off
>>323931310
SweetFX on with lumasharpen
>>323925981
NOOOO
>>323931410
SweetFX no lumasharpen
>>323931523
Sweet FX no lumasharpen and MSAA 2x ON
Look at that fucking FPS
It just isn't worth it. And its only slightly higher on average with SweetFX off.
How could Rockstar fuck up on that so bad.
>>323931647
MSAA 2x, SweetFX off
And thats my last pic
>>323931410
Definitely the best, it doesn't AA at all, but the added detail makes it a bit harder to notice the jaggies.
MSAA a shit, blurry as hell.
>>323930876
That's bullshit, lumasharpen actually accentuates the lack of AA as it literally sharpens the aliasing.
>>323931989
Do you really notice it more with lumasharpen? It terrible for the shadow edges, but, on solid objects, I think the eyes are less drawn to the jaggies. Look at the wooden side to the steps, for example, or the blue handrail. Might just be how we see things, though.
>>323929391
I'm probably going mystic knight
>>323929473
aite, guess I'll just keep playing on cracked version & then just buy if I feel like it's good after finishing
>/v/ talking about graphics, ENB and SweetFX
It's always a good laugh. Everyone is so misinformed or has such shit opinions.
>>323931767
If you dont mind, i would like to see a full max settings screenshot, even if it means unplayable fps.
Like, SweetFX + at least MSAA 8x
>>323932402
>everyone's an idiot except me
You are in literally every thread.
I swear, you are in every board and every thread, all the time.
>>323932596
That's because I'm akin to a god.
>>323932506
I think CSAA 8xQ would be less blurry. Is CSAA even supported anymore? i lost touch with those AA technologies. Which it the best AA method available? Like, best quality, worst performance?
>>323917134
mmmm its the modder goodness alright.
>>323932506
>>323932803
kek but really here it is
8x MSAA and SweetFX
The AA in this game is the worst ever and because I have AMD card I don't get the fancy TXAA which I hear is just as bad and performance raping
Why the fuck didn't Rockstar include other less impactful forms of AA but which still made a difference compared to no AA?
Fuck man.
>>323932745
Supersampling, Sparse Grid Super Sampling and a mix of Multisampling + Supersampling are the most demanding but yield the best results bar none.
Downsampling is also a nice method, but it's basically the same thing as supersampling at this point.
>>323932984
Also even with MSAAA 8X you still get these fucking parking lot jaggies, with AF 16X too
>>323922834
>le triple agent argument
>>323917134
required for some games like DE:HR and all fallout games.
>>323920410
>I d-don't
why do that you fucking faggot?
>>323921684
We have a winner!
>>323924839
... I think you went a little heavy on the end there.
>>323932803
Kek
>>323932984
>>323933171
Fucking hell. Is AA native on the game? What a shitty work, Rockstar.
Not sure how AMD works, so i not sure if you can force the real fancy AA modes from the drive, but it would drop the framerate to like, 5 max, if it loads.
>>323920362
I've always been amazed at how good the vanilla textures for Argonians look compared to everything else in the game.
I dont know what, but there is something that makes them stand out.
>>323933171
werks fine on my machine with 4x, no jaggies
dont have sweetfx though
must be amd or the preset
>>323932984
it has FXAA
>>323933171
That doesn't look like x16 AF at all.
And it looks like you got some shader aliasing too, which can't be alleviated by MSAA and such. You'll need to use SMAA on top of that to try and get rid of it.
Isolation suffers from the same issue.
As this is basically a technology thread, is it worth updating Nvidia drivers? i currently have a 660 TI, running on 353.30
Heard new drivers are fucking with older cards.
>>323933712
Well I tried the AMD Settings AA which was Supersampling, Adaptive Multisampling and Multisampling but neither saw effect in game, it just doesn't work
I'm stuck with Rockstar MSAA and FXAA both which are blurry pieces of shit.
I rather just leave AA off and SweetFX on at this point.
Also I only have 2GB VRAM but I try not to max it in game since it doesn't help performance at all.
I might try ENB if that has some AA that might work in this game better than SweetFX SSA which doesn't seem to.
>>323932984
>Why the fuck didn't Rockstar include various things that help PC gamers
Because Rockstar cares about consoles. Most developers do, typically, but Rockstar especially.
>>323934021
>FXAA
>You cant see the jaggies if it looks like we smeared vaseline on the monitor.
>>323917134
>adjust contrast on monitor
>adjust brightness on monitor
congrats, I just saved you 30-40 fps.
>>323934162
By the way, what are your configs? I bought GTAV last sale, but havent got the balls to download 65gigs on my old rig.
>>323934021
>FXAA
I haven't done a test with that yet!
Heres FXAA on with SweetFX lumasharpen
Not bad I guess, the lumasharpen helps to hide the blurry factor.
