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https://twitter.com/EvilMrWizard/status/686653064380469248

We will never see another Smash-less EVO, will we?
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>>323761842
Why would we? The game is responsible for a huge boost in EVO viewership, attendance, and participation.

That being said, I really hope there's no Melee this year. If there's no SFIV, there should be no Melee (there will be, though).
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>>323761842
I cant see this picture without thinking of that guy who makes timestop porn
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>>323761842
fgc is literally a bunch of wannabe thugs that can't even get rid of a bunch of white kids. they hate smash but can't band together to get rid of it from their biggest tourney. stop talking and starting doing something to get rid of smash
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>>323762608
EVO organizer is a white fatty so that's why.
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>>323761842
>Melee second most popular game behind Street Fighter with only 30k less viewers
>ever getting cut
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Pro player here.

I won't show up to any venue that hosts any Smash related game again.

Host Smash in a different place away from everyone else.

Smash players are dirty little fuckers.
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Wishlist time.

SFV
USFIV
UMvC3
MKX
Tekken 7
GGXrdR
BBCF
KI
DOA5LR
Rising Thunder
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>>323761965
>there's no SFIV
what
why
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>>323764367
>Rising Thunder
Fuck off Seth
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>>323764495
The people behind EVO are developing that game.
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>>323761965
>That being said, I really hope there's no Melee this year. If there's no SFIV, there should be no Melee (there will be, though).

There's no SFV because a suitable competitive replacement is coming out next year nigga. Smash hasn't had a new competitive entry since Melee. They're not just rainlessly using the latest entry in series', they take into account the competitive community of the games as well as their popularity with audiences considering EVO is a business.
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>>323764553
Doesn't make it any less shit
It hasn't even released yet and already nobody gives a fuck about it
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>>323764868
You're missing the point.

Rising Thunder is being developed by EVO people so it will definitely make it into EVO.
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>>323761965
>implying the melee and smash 4 communities are the same.
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>tfw you want to compete but you're bad at fighters and dont even know a local scene that isnt 4-5 hours away and/or isnt smash
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>>323764968
Why put it on a wishlist though?
I'm fuckin on to you Seth
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>>323765264
So I can make the wishlist featuring 10 full games without including something that is clearly not a fighting game.
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>>323764638
>believing this shit when Tekken 7 gets a free pass when there is literally no access to the game outside of two cities
>two NRS games
>Mario Kart DS because sponsors wanted a racing game

Melee will get cut if Nintendo doesn't cut a check to keep it in
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>>323765986
>Melee will get cut if Nintendo doesn't cut a check to keep it in

Like they never have?

>EVO will cut a game that makes them a shit tonne of money
Failed business 101 did ya? That's okay sport.
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>>323761842
depends how long you think melee is sticking around because everyone knows nintendo cant make something that isnt targeted towards either adults with clinical autism or 5 year olds
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>>323764638
Sm4sh exists, accept it. Sm4sh is no more competitive in comparison to melee than SFV is to 4
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>>323761965
I feel like that's not exactly comparable. Most players are going to move from SF4 to SF5, Melee and Smash 4 are pretty much two different communities, there's actually not much crossover between the two.
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>>323766814
What the fuck is this SFV takes less skill because no plinking required? Are 09ers thinking they are OG now or something?
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>>323766814
>Sm4sh exists, accept it.
Uhhh yeah, obviously. What about it?
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>>323761842

I'd rather we don't.

Smash doesn't need Evo or the FGC. They have other majors, plenty of support, a fuckton of their own sponsors and venues.

All Smash does is crowd out people who want to participate in and watch games that aren't Smash and starve games that need Evo to fucking survive.

And it wouldn't be as bad if there weren't fucking two of them
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>>323766206
Nintendo's cheque comes in the form of game setups and venue support. but keep pretending they're on the sponsor list for appearance sake from your reddit threads
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>>323767017
Yeah but since when has EVOnot been about money?
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>>323767062
Uh, no. Melee has never ever gotten any help from Nintendo competitively. It's always been community based advancement. Nintendo even wanted Melee pulled from EVO 2013 you absolute nigger. Nintendo didn't jump 180 onto the sponsorships until it came time to start promoting Sm4sh in 2014.

Why do people who have no idea what they're talking about try to talk about things?
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So this years Evo is going to be the same as last year but with SFV and maybe not Sm4sh right?

If anything I really hope KI gets more players due to Season 3 and PC influx.
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>>323767249

I didn't say it wasn't, I'm just saying Smash existing at Evo is a major drain on games with communities that are on life support that would have an honest chance at coming back if not for Smash.

The only reason Smash is at evo to begin with has everything to do with insecure sections of the community demanding to be acknowledged by "real" fighting game players and nothing to do with promoting the Smash scene because Melee's community is as big as it's ever going to get and they all hate Smash 4.
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>>323767435
Pretty much.

It's gonna be interesting to see a Streetfighter metagame in its infancy at EVO it's been years.
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>>323767527
Im more interested in the endgame for USFIV because whats played once SFV comes out is all thats going to be played in that game from now on
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>>323761842
>just lost my football team
>smash is still on evo
>am going to be kicked out my parents house soon and don't have enough money to rent any apartments in the nice side of stl
This day can't get any worse for me
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>>323767439
But there are more top Melee players reg'd for Sm4sh than vice versa
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>>323767527

God, I can barely remember the dawn of SFIV. Hell, only GF I remember that far back is 2010 and that's just because Adam Sessler didn't know shit about the game and was commentating.

>>323767637

>Endgame Ultra Elena Evil Ryu IV: Featuring Rolento from the Final Fight series

Meh
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>>323764367
It's going to be
SFV
GGXRR
MKX
KI
Tekken
Pokken?
MVC3
BB
Some other anime fighter
Capcom will be kikes and there will be no SFIV so people don't see how dumbed down SFV is in comparison.
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>>323767797
You mean just m2k?

Literally the only top Melee player who plays Sm4sh?
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>>323767435
MKX, KI and P4A are the most tentative games from last year. Also, if marvel was not published by capcom and was just some anime game it would be cut immediately from the list
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>>323767797

And they're the same people who have been playing the game for the past decade for the most part.

The Smash community is relentlessly autistic when it comes to people not playing Melee.
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>>323761965
>EVO viewership, attendance, and participation.
Yeah and if EVO started allowing League of Legends it would see a massive boost as well.

Thing is, its not a fighting game and neither is smash.
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>>323767959
This. Most people who don't play Melee are autistic like this anon said. Having that at the fucking event is shitty and brings the whole thing down.
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KI, SF finals, and anime fighters are the only ones I watch so I don't give a fuck.
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>>323765986
Tekken 7 gets a free pass because the devs shove money down Wizard's faggot throat. Same reason why Mortal Kombat even made it to EVO.
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>>323764426


Got to push the new game.

It makes sense from a business standpoint. because EVO really is business. I don't know when how how long that became true.
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>>323761842
Am I missing something? How does this confirm smash at all?

That being said, I'm a huge Smash fan (both Melee and Smash 4, love them both) but I'm also a big traditional fighting game fan. I would prefer is Smash isn't at EVO anymore.

I think the competitive scene in Smash is very stale and boring, especially compared to something like Street Fighter. Let's be real here, in Melee, the same group of 5 guys (honestly 4 since Mewtwo King hasn't won anything in forever) has won just about everything for the last 5 years. In Smash 4 everybody knows it's going to be ZeRo or Nairo.

Smash is more about grinding than it is actual skill which is why you see the same people winning all the time in Smash 4 and Melee, since they can put the most time into it. You see more varied result in a more skill based game like Street Fighter since it's more based on your ability to react to what your opponent is doing as opposed to grinding out specific kill set ups and edge guards like in smash.

Besides, Smash has Genesis, Apex, Big House, CEO, and now Dreamhack. It doesn't need EVO anymore.
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>>323768041
>Thing is, its not a fighting game and neither is smash.

But Smash is a fighting game.

Did you mean it's not a Street Fighter clone?

It doesn't seem like the EVO organizers agree that EVO is only supposed to be Street Fighter clones then. So if you want to be butthurt about it, why don't you direct your anal blood gush at them?
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>>323765689
>No fucking KoF
>But still puts on RT
Choke and die, Seth.
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>>323768041
Smash is a hell of a lot more similar to traditional fighting games than LoL is.
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>>323767945
MKX is coming back because of WB money and MS is really pushing KI hard. They got the KI cup at the end of this month with more prize money than capcom cup, optional simplified combo ender inputs for beginners, Season 1 with all costumes and cosmetics is free for gold this month, and Season 3 is going to be playable at pax south, and of course its coming to PC W10 exclusive :^)

if it doesnt perform well this year it probably wont be back on the mainstage
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>>323764367
>anime fighters

You can have a side event. Maybe.
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>>323768135
Phew, that's a whopper of a baitpost.

I bet you'll even get a couple real replies off that one.
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>>323765182
Are you me?
Smash is everywhere where I live.
I don't mind Smash but fuck, I want to play SF.
>mfw Samsho Player
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>>323761842
Evo's shit anyway now.
Capcom Cup was a way better event for SF and the other games all have their own majors that are way more interesting than Evo. Sidestreams were way more hype than main stage this year.

Maybe if we brought back real fighting games to the main stage like Tekken and KoF then it'd be fun to watch again.
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>>323767926
And Hungrybox and PewPewU and ChuDat and Wizzrobe and probably a few others.
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>>323761965
Melee is by far the more popular one, so if they wanted to cut one ( they won't ) it would be sm4sh.

Also I think they mentioned they will have both sf5 and usf4 a few days ago.
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>>323768247
KIs already made them quite a bit of money. I doubt it's going anywhere. Not that I would really want it to since it and SF are the only things at EVO I watch.
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>>323768415
Smash 4 got more entrants than Melee, though. And although it got way less viewers than Melee did, it also had a shitty Saturday timeslot.
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>>323768529
Smash 4 top 8 actually got more viewers than Melee top 8 at The Big House 5.

People who bring up the "Melee got more viewers" thing at EVO annoy me. It's so obvious to anybody paying attention that Smash 4 viewership was hurt by it's Saturday afternoon time slot.
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>>323768365
Dunno, do you live in south texas?

The thing is that there is a good scene for a variety of fighters here in places like san antonio or austin, but that requires me to drive 4-5 hours north.
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REMOVE MELEE remove melee
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>>323768435
I mean for EVO, KI is a success for MS and I think I even recall hearing its model was a inspiration for capcom on SFV on how they are just going to be updating the game and not requiring super omega ex editions
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>>323768365
Smash IS everywhere.
If you live outside of America a real FGC is basically non existant and is 90% online.
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>>323764968
As a saturday morning game or exhibition tournament, would be pretty underhanded to put your own game in your major tournament, but I wouldn't put it past them since they shilled it like crazy last evo.
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>>323768247
>PC W10 exclusive :^)
>mfw upgraded because of that
>mfw tried to reduce botnet as much as I could
inb4 they only allow you to get KI if you have a specific botnet update
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>>323768854
But why? How did a cult following suddenly become the most popular fighter?
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>>323768415
Is Melee the more popular one? Maybe it's more popular exclusively in the smash community, but in the wider fighting game community, Smash 4 seems to be the choice.

Let's look at the big tournaments where Melee has outdrawn Smash 4 in attendance. Apex, Big House 5, and the upcoming Genesis 3. What do they all have in common? They are all long standing Smash tournament series with a historic focus on Melee.

Now let's look at the tournaments where Smash 4 has outdrawn Melee. EVO, CEO, Smash Con, MLG. What these have in common is that they are more neutral events without a historic focus on Melee. They are wider community events.
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>>323764638

In a perfect world Third Strike would have kept on going and SF4 would have died like brawl.
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>>323761842
>bitching about toilet breaks
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>>323768041
your a fucking idiot. How is LoL more comparable than smash? They are shitty fighting games, but fighting games nonetheless
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>>323768969
Because it's baby shit for casuals.

Literally.
I went to some smash thing a friend was hosting and we were talking about games, only one any of them had ever played was fucking Rising Thunder and they defended that trash passionately.

These people wouldn't even put the time into MKX because it was "too hard."
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>>323768626
and that view spot was because of sm4sh being in the roster at all.
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>>323769063

It's only natural. Smash players cling to Melee for dear life even though the community has hit its apex in size and can only degrade from here.

I can understand sitting Brawl out because of the hideous balance and design, but Smash 4 is perfectly playable and has support from the devs as of now.
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>>323761965
I'm a tr4shfag and even I acknowledge Melee's place at Evo, come on.
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>>323768252
>implying that matters
anime fighters are the hypest shit in all of EVO every year
KI has been pretty hype also
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>>323769080

SFIV is in no way a blunder like Brawl was. It's not everyone's cup of tea but it's undeniably one of the most significant games of the last generation, reviving a genre and bringing its community to previously unseen heights. A shit game couldn't accomplish that. Show a bit of respect.
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>>323769080
in a perfect world, Third Strike wouldn't just be Chun, Ken, and Urien
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>>323769327
Ignore 3shitters
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Will there be Catherine?
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>>323769306
KI is pretty much an anime fighter but without aerial combos and better music
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>>323768041
>fight other players to defeat them
>not a fighting game
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>>323769439

Anime fighters are defined by air dashes

KI is literally SF with stupid combos
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>>323768247
>optional simplified combo ender inputs
is this shit allowed online?
this is what ruined MVC3 online for me was the simple mode bullshit
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Put the party games on the first day so we can filter out all the autists then get to ACTUAL fighting games.
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>>323769459
I like you.
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>>323769459
>No Doto fighter
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Mario Party is the best fighting game.
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>>323769493
>KI is SF with stupid combos
You could just say you haven't played it mang.
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>>323769837

I'm not buying an Xbone or getting Windows 10 for it and the canned hype shit turns me off
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>>323769557
Smash autists don't even bother to watch any other games do they?
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>>323768627
>South Texas
Nope. Puerto Rico
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>>323769929

>Smash children
Smell bad
Steal shit
Only care about their baby game
Take up space reserved for other games
Trash their section of the hall
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>>323769907
Then why are you talking about games you haven't played pretending you know how they play? For what purpose?
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>>323769929
Melee players literally only care about melee and nothing else if you look at entrants numbers 70% of them entered only Melee. Like 2/3rds of smash 4 were entered in other games
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>>323761842
not even if smash players get evo banned from a venue AGAIN will evo ban smash sadly, smash is a fine game but the community deserved to be its separate thing after the shit they pulled pre sfiv days.
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>>323770090
Because the game is a boring 30/30/30 guessing SO HYPE MUSIC AMIRITE game :^)
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>>323770048
This MrWizard had to pay thousands for the damage smashers did
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>>323769493
stupid fun combos*

FTFY

>>323769547
I think so, its hardly giving them an advantage however, it just simplifies specials but it doesnt impact competitive in any way. Doesnt make breaking combos harder or anything. If you can beat jagos who just jump around constantly, you can beat anyone using combo assist
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>>323770204
>Hasn't played the game
>Continues to act like he knows anything about it
You sound like LTG bitching about knockdowns and SFIV being a 50/50 guessing game
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>>323770236
Isn't combo assist just doing specials without the need for inputs for the super retarded?
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>>323770204
>guessing

Thats what the combo breaker tutorial is for, nerd.
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>>323770204
>Combo breakers
>Guessing
Oh so you fucking suck at reading animations, I get it.
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>>323770408
yeah, also applies for combos but it limits players to only two enders if they're pressing forward and roundhouse or fierce unless they input the motions for other enders
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I love Smash at EVO simply because it makes the FGC so incredibly mad, and anything that makes those elitist autistic smelly rapist cucks uncomfortable must be great
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>>323768041
Except that smash is a fighting game. It's the mario party of fighting games, but it's still a fighting game. Even Sakurai who hates people playing it competitively agrees.
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>>323761842
>smash will be the final event of Evo and actual fighters will get pushed to the piss poor timeslots
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>>323770935
>Sakurai who hates people playing it competitively
Still cracks me up
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A lot of you guys think smash bros is about grinding tech but really it's all about reads. The best players don't even have amazing tech skill but have the ability to read the opponent this video should explain everything https://youtube.com/watch?v=uXvKpe5MP0s
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>>323771853
sm4sh is more reads than anything
melee is basically all tech for most players but top players go hard on the reads
and melee tech is more impressive than the average FGC due to no frame buffers
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>tfw customs most likely won't be allowed this year on Smash 4
Why must the Smash community gut more then half the game to make it playable.
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>>323766990
At this stage winning a fighting game is more about gaming the underdeveloped meta than actually being more skilled than your opponent. Part of why I despise the idea of Tekken 7 and SFV totally replacing their previous installments this year.
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>>323772285
is SFV replacing Ultra already? I figure ultra would stick around and marvel would get phased out if anything
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>>323772040
Because no one can seem to remember stage gimmicks so they want to pretend their skill matters in the end.
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>>323767797
Both sides keep trying to push that their game is more popular when they get more entrants. The fact of the matter is that Melee and Sm4sh draw roughly equal numbers at every single major that hosts both.
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>>323772285

TTT2 is just too dead to warrant its own main stage tournament. T7 has been out for more than enough time in Asia, Americans are simply doomed to be disadvantaged there. At the very least there has been a concerted effort by the tekken team to give players in the US a lot of play time.

I'd like to see Ultra one more time, though.
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>>323768041
>Yeah and if EVO started allowing League of Legends it would see a massive boost as well.

No it wouldn't. The event would happen during the regular season of almost every major LoL League, so that means no notable pro players would show up.
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Smash is a fucking party game retards. that fat fuck joey should be killed for allowing such a trash game that attracts the most greasiest of losers to an event like EVO.
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>>323772040
Because if they don't, no one will take their shitty party game seriously.
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>>323768109
Namco barely gives two fucks about the American competitive scene. When it came to light that EVO wasn't going to host Tekken one year, Harada blatantly stated that he didn't care on Twitter.
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>>323768135
You know the same people consistently winning is usually an indicator of a game being more competitive than less.
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>>323769327

I respect it bringing back fighting games.

Still think it's trash compared to 3S.
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>>323768969
The Documentary
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anything is better than marvel
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>>323770048
>Smell bad
It's a fighting game tournament. Don't kid yourself, everyone smells like shit.
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>>323773320
there's a difference between smelling like sweat and tesosterone and smelling like dried cum and shit
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>>323772040
It was a logistical decision.With the way customs are unlocked It's a tedious fucking pain in the ass to get all of them on every setup.
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>>323773440
Yes, dried cum has the implication that the smelly person in question actually has sex.
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>>323773483
I'm pretty sure that the machines people use on tournaments already have all the customs unlocked.
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>>323773440
lol
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>>323773614
Your hand doesnt count, come on anon
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>>323773623
Yes they managed, but it's still as I said a tedious process to unlock them on every setup.
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>>323773718
So? It's tedious to set up a lot of things but it has to be done, and if they are already unlocked then just save the sets that are allowed to be used.
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God I hope smash 4 isn't in this year's evo. It's boring as fuck. I don't get how people want that piece of shit game back at evo. I would rather see another anime fighting game than that garbage. I hope marvel 2 is at evo this year but I already know that ain't happening
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>>323775751
>marvel 2
>project m
>third strike
never ever. evo is a big ole business, my friend, and only the newest things are allowed
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>>323775751
I really tried to like Smash competitively. I played both 4 and Melee in tournaments and I really didn't care for it. I like watching Melee though.
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>>323765182
>tfw any semblance of a local scene that isn't at least 5 hours away is nothing but a few bronies that play Blazblue and Persona
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>>323768969
Another aspect I forgot to mention is that Smash fans show the fuck up for event. Just recently someone near where I lived decided to host his first tourney out of his basement with nothing more than a facebook group post to promote it: over 30 entrants, some drove for hours to get there. He decided to make it a weekly and the next week got even more.
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in what language is evilwizard speaking that makes you automatically interpret smash being confirmed
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If SFV is garbage like S4msh is, will the SF fanbase drop it in favor of USFIV? I always see SFfags whining that Smashfags keep playing Melee just because it's the better game, while they should be playing the latest iteration in the series like good goys.
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Do traditional fighting games have majors apart from Evo? What does it matter if melee is in one of them?
For smash there's like 5-6 really big tournaments a year, but when it comes to the fgc I only hear about Evo. Do people in the fgc not organise their own big tournaments?
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>>323764426

Why would anyone still be playing it? Did you notice that there aren't SF2 and SF3 tournaments on the main stage at Evo anymore either?
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Smash tournament players are the wrost
I went to a tournament out of curiosity and let me tell I have never seen a stench so foul and so many people with body odour in all gaming con's I've ever been.
It's like they literally have never ever taken a shower.
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>>323767439
Are you forgetting melee was one of those dying, starving games prior to evo 2013?
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>>323768135
How do i become a faggot like you?
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>>323784045
There used to be.
Before Smash ruined everything.
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>>323770405

Like Guilty Gear Xrd, amirite ;^)

>>323770236
>>323770548
>>323770408

IF you put on assist. Manual input timing is harder, it's easier what strength to see them and they only has two opener options and two ender options of the same strength.

EG if they pick Jago. Their options for opening are L Laser Sword or L Wind Kick. You just Break Lights and they are gone. Their path is pretty simple to break and his enders are both heavy fireball and heavy dragon punch so you just break heavies on the last loop.

It teaches players the "golden path" but you can't rely on it for mash and win.
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>>323768171
Americans don't care about KoF. It's always been this way. 13 did give it a nice boost, but it wasn't enough besides bringing in a new wave of people.

Maybe 14 can do the same. I just wish they make it look a little less plastic. It's still strong in other parts of the world which is what makes the competitive scene usually so interesting. It was neat seeing the French show up for KoF to disrupt the wave of Asians and Beaners.
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>>323782928
nah, "oldschool" players will dickride sfv till the end
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>>323782928
but most of the nips won't play it because no arcade release and tournament access outside of japan
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>why don't they lose a fuckload of viewers because I don't like a game?
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Good stuff.
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>have always played and loved both Smash and Street Fighter

This forced rivalry between the two communities is quite possibly the dumbest shit I've ever seen get forced over the internet.
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Did anybody ever upload Jootecks' book anywhere?

I wanna read it because I'm bored.

>>323787838
It's not Smash and SF, it's Smash and the entire FGC.

Nobody wants Smash except the faggots who wanna turn the FGC into e-sports like those homos Gootecks and Ultradavid.
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>>323770209
Boo hoo. Who even likes that fat faggot.
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>>323787807
Aside from Guilty Gear Xrd Revelator, what could we even expect in terms of anime games? Blazblue won't be out, right? What else is there?
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>>323784410
Oh please that's any event.
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>>323788735
Nah, not really.
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>>323787838
I don't get it either.
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Guys I have the leaked roster for EVO. There's only gonna be 7 games this year.
SFV
USF4
Melee
Sm4sh
UMVC3
MKX
GG or KI depending on who has more money to bring to the table?
>>323788717
If EVO wanted to they can kick anime games out at EVO for business reasons. If EVO is generous they will only have 1 game and that will be GG.
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>>323788772
Yeah okay. Good defense.
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>>323788818
I thought it was confirmed no Marvel this year.
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>>323788917
There will always be Marvel unless Capcom denies them or something, because MrWizard likes it.
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>>323788917
EVO organizers wants to experiment with 1 game as a saturday night finals thus where marvel comes to play and gets a spot.
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>>323789018
I remember like a week ago everyone blowing up on twitter about the death of Marvel.
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>>323788818
>If EVO wanted to they can kick anime games out at EVO for business reasons. If EVO is generous they will only have 1 game and that will be GG.
Of course, but that goes for all games. What's the point of mentioning it? We all know it's all about the money for mr wizard.
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>>323789097
Marvel being "dead" has been going on for more than a year now.
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>>323788818
>I have leaked the list
>X or Y depending?

Also I heard last year that USF4 and UMVC3 won't be main stage events this year.

And GG is a given because of its new version and how successful it was last year, and so is KI because even through it struggled to get entrants last year, MS is pushing it super hard.
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>>323765182
>tfw no scene for anything anywhere, just niggers and trees

Thanks Michigan.
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>>323789152
Problem with GG is that their company can't support the FGC like KI can with their microsoft money and possible big boom on PC coming soon. GG may not make it this year based on financial reasons for EVO.
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>>323761842
Get ready for stinky day at EVO
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>>323789391
See
>>323789526
USF4 will come back this year as a safety measure in case if SFV becomes SFxT. Last thing EVO needs is a dull tournament.
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>>323761842
You can not stop cancer.
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>>323789193
Yeah but it was something big.
Being dropped at an event or something.
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>>323761842
>no smash
you with. There will be no KI, Tekken and some other games that gather less than 1k players
Melle and Sm4sh got over 3k
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>>323761842
probably not. They're the second and third biggest games there, absolutely dwarfing everything that's not SF.
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>>323767918
>KI
>Tekken
>Pokken?
>MVC3
>BB
pffft.
I doubt there will be any big Pokken tournaments. It requires WiiU gamepad and too many of these fuckers cause interference.
Tekken isn't even out yet, Fated Retribution is coming out in 2 or so month, I doubt it will be there, another arcade tourny with 500 people? are you kidding
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>one of my friends is seriously pissed that there is no Project M at EVO.

I hate smashfags so much
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>>323764426
SFV will have been out for a few months
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>>323789793

The Marvel community is so desperate nowadays that they begged to have a spot at fucking CEOtaku, an anime only major. Keep in mind that this is the same community that bashed and made fun of anime players for years, now saying that Marvel is an "air-dasher" hence it's "anime".
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>>323771853
>The best players don't even have amazing tech skill
Most of the gods do except hbox, who doesn't need it.
Then there's other high tier players like Westballz and Hax (rip his hands) who got gud because of their tech skill.
But of course, fundamentals are more important.
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Am I the only one bothered that people from Asia are allowed to enter Tekken 7 tournaments in the US?

These fuckers have had the game for a year and keep coming over and beating the ass of Americans who got to play it briefly for a few days. The ones who have played it are saying that frame data, movement, combos, etc. have been altered so much that playing Tag 2 only fucks with you since a lot of that shit doesn't carry over.
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>>323790429
MvC at EVO is a tradition, even if 2 guys will show up, mrWizzard most likely will let them play on the main stage.
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>>323790582
and? Americans had TTT2 for the longest time, Korea and Japan still kicked US arse. mr. Napps played decently in KorIFT, BloodHawk also tried his best.
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>>323761842
I heard that all the areas where smash is played smell really bad? I've never been to any tournaments? is this true?
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>>323789806
Number of entrants for KI is irrelevant, MS is paying good money to have it in.
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>>323767926
Hungrybox, PewPew U, The Moon, Chu Dat, and Wizzrobe
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>>323790821
Will they do same shit this year? With part of money from Ki sales going towards KI Evo pot.
PC release might increase number of entries, but I somehow doubt it.
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>>323790756

>Americans had TTT2 for the longest time.

....You do know that it was out in arcades in Asia for 2 years before console release right? They literally had access to the game twice as long as Americans did so that point goes to the trash.

>mr. Napps played decently in KorIFT, BloodHawk also tried his best

Why would you even mention that when both of them got absolutely destroyed far worse than they normally did facing Asian competitors in past Tekken games? That even further shows how fucked up the competitive scene is for Tekken because of the release gap.

You're not too bright I see.
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>>323791041

That shit was tragic. You could tell they knew jack shit about Tekken 7 by how easily they got blown away.
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>>323790949
over 100 million people have win10. Better than the less than 15 million they have for Xbone. Trust me and especially with KI season 1 being free this month on XBL alot more people will increase KI numbers
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>>323791041
>You do know that it was out in arcades in Asia for 2 years before console release right
And T4 and TTT1 and T5DR and T6 and TTT2 and T7 and ones before them. It's the way Tekken did things for the longest time.
Should we just ban Tekken altogether?
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>>323791395
honestly removing 3D fighters from the tournament would be ideal
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>>323768365
Man, there aren't enough people who play SamSho these days. Game deserves more respect.
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>>323791395

That's retarded.

Ban the chinks instead. We already had to do it once to JDCR, I say keep it up.
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>>323792659
because it was an US qualifier annd JDCR representing US is not the best of moves. Either way NOBI won.
EVO is an international tournament

US community just sucks balls. Half don;t even understand what's wrong with their playstyle. When US players defeated "chinks" in T6 everyone was gun-ho, but the moment TTT2 hit everyone went silent.
There is no home advantage after a year or so. Last year T7 tournament? Yeah mr. Naps did great getting into TOP8.
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>>323773829
they do not have them though, they usually are supplied ones by nintendo so they have to unlcok everything right before the tournament, very few set ups are reused.
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>>323792962

Naps made top 8 literally beating Americans and a literally who jap. Every person he played who had actually be playing T7 whooped his ass despite him being known to perform much better against them.

Go to bed, Harada.
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>>323790481
Mango's tech skill isn't even close to amazing. I've met people who've been playing for under two years who have better tech skill than mango. Yet they'd probably still lose to borp because it doesn't matter how good you are at invincible ledge dashes and shield drops if your fundamentals are bad.
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>Smash starts getting into FGC tournaments
>equipment starts getting stolen

Boy what a coincidence
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>>323792962
That's because American Tekken players really fucking loved BR. Anakin, Fab, GM, JFJ beating Koreans at MLG was the sickest shit.

Not everyone in America loves Tag 2. It's so sad to see that during the whole lifespan of the game, not one American player has beaten a Korean player in tournament.
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>>323786591

How did smash ruin anything?
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>>323787983

It's pretty pathetic that the entire FGC is being pushed around by 2 games from the same series.

Let's face it, if it wasn't smash, the FGC would be bitching about anime fighters and if not anime fighters, they'd be bitching about western fighters like MKX and KI.

Y'all a bunch of whiny cunts.
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>>323795125

It really is, unless you can prove it.
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>>323798745
>games played by blacks and asians
>no stealing
>games played by autists
>stealing
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>>323795125

In their defense, attendance last year was through the roof and whenever you introduce a massive amount of people, you're sure to either get bad eggs or people who are willing to take risky behavior since it's less likely to get noticed.
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>>323799908
>implying it wasn't the Guilty Gear fags
The year they come back is they same year this shit happens.
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