Who would be the perfect developer for a Berserk game?
>>323662385
Platinum, no contest.
>>323662385
FROM
Perfect Berserk game but it's only half finished: Capcom
Berserk with Shit Combat and animation quality but perfect setting and true to source: Fromsoft
Amazing Combat but is only 4 hours long and has an awful soundtrack: Platinum
From, considering demons souls is pretty much the closest thing we got, thematically to a berserk game. Having said that, dragon's Dogma came very very close to feeling like an actual berserk game so there's that too.
>>323662423
Respectfully disagree. Guts fighting style, while fast, is not particularly flashy, he's about quick brutality and raw strength, which clashes with platinum style games of fast, flashy combat with relatively low damage output per hit
>>323662385
Capcom if they used the dragons dogma team and didnt cut 50% of the content.
>>323662423
Only in his Berserker Armor, honestly.
Regular Guts fights like a FROMSoftware character, slow and lumbering, but in the Berserker Armor, then he fights strong and fast like the average Platnium character.
A joint project between FROM (asthetics/art direction) and Platinum (gameplay/combat).
>le platinum games have good combat
love this meme
>>323662701
To give Capcom credit, Dev team 1 is still amazing. Too bad it's talent is wasted on MH games now
>>323662423
>>323662440
>>323662759
>Regular Guts fights like a FROMSoftware character, slow and lumbering
nope
guts was always fast as fuck
>>323662759
Have you read berserk? Pre-berserk armor guts still moves around like a fucking gymnast while swinging around a 6' slab of metal. Its faster than anything From has incorporated into their games.
>>323662905
>he never played BB
>>323662759
Nigga you stupid. He fights with incredible agility with his dragon smasher even without the armor. The whole saga with the priest (forgot his name like a pleb) has him tear into hordes of enemies singlehandedly
>>323662848
Not good, but fun.
>>323662865
Which makes me sad that they aren't devloping a berserk game. Shit would be cash if it wasnt rushed.
>>323662917
Of course he hasn't, He's a Soulsbaby
>>323662848
the QTEs make it more immersive bro you don't get it
>>323662759
What, he's fast as fuck.
He's able to keep up with Serpico for fuck's sake.
>>323662498
>amazing combat
>suddenly every enemy in the Berserk world tanks more than 1 hit and its a jugglefest
>>323662440
>>323662601
Look at these retards and laugh, a Berserk game by From would be terrible since they would never get the combat right. Guts is not slow and lubering, he's fast as fuck.
>>323662385
Hands down
Platinum
>>323663083
Then surely they can just change the damage?
>>323662759
Nigger even pre-Band of the Hawk Guts is faster than anyone but Griffith who at the time was a legendary soldier
>>323662932
(you)
Toby Fox.
>>323662905
>>323662917
>>323662970
Not to the extent of Platnium's fighters. Think about how they fight.
>Quick slashes fast as fuck, fast moves from person to person, and combo attacks up the ass
Guts is more about jumping in, using one, immense strike, and slicing through the enemy right away. Unless it's an apostle, in which case he fucking dodges and uses other attacks to get an opening for the sword strike.
Even in the Farnese/Neo Eclipse arc he does more large, sweeping attacks instead of super fast attacks.
>>323663064
Speaking of which, Serpico would make more sense to me. He has the thin sword, going fast is his thing, and he can still push Guts to his limits in terms of speed.
Capcom
>>323662905
Have you actually played a Souls game? They're only slow if you make them heavy.
>>323662385
Platinum and the Souls guys combining of course
perfect mix of crazy awesomeness while still being in danger at all times
MOTHER
FUCKING
KOEI
>>323663203
Use Platinum's combat system - but when you are playing as Guts you do more damage - combos are built up by jumping from enemy to enemy, or cleaving multiple enemies at once.
Against bosses, it is more like traditional Platinum games (maybe remove QTEs) - fast powerful slashing combos.
From could never do it since a Berserk game would have to be really fast paced while also having the player face hordes of enemies at once. From games are pretty slow in comparison and they are more about slow tactival movement.
>>323663240
i do, and i'm not the one that called it slow it was >>323662759
>>323663248
I was going to just say, make a Musou
>>323663191
>Game Maker Studio
>Developer
lmao
>>323663191
Came here to post this.
He is the only genius capable of creating a good berserk game.
fromXplatinum
Haven't you guys played that PS2 berserk game?
They need to copy exactly how it was in the PS2 game.
>>323663615
is their a rom with a fan-sub?
or just the jp version?
>>323663659
There is a fansub patch. The problem is that the game is broken on emulators, you will have to switch between hardware mode and software mode every cutscene or your hud will dissapesr/the cutscene will just be a black screen. If you can stomach that it's a great game.
From software is in charge of art direction, Atmosphere, and sound, While platinum are in charge of all the gameplay.
>>323663203
>Not to the extent of Platnium's fighters.
Well this is sure as hell not
>fights like a FROMSoftware character
And this is after whole night of fighting and being smashed as fuck.
>>323663103
>what is bloodborne
>>323662385
a joint venture between bethsoft and bioware. maybe they could consult with obsidian, assuming they get their act together (and are kept far away from QA)
FROM cause their captian is the biggest berserk fanboy and they know how to change the speed of their souls-like combat and could combat for a berserk game. Also look up the majestic greatsword from dark souls 2.
>>323663862
Id like you to notice he isnt using his sword
Guts is only ever slow because his oponents are slow and require maximum power more than him pushing the speed to the limit.
I just finished watching the series for the first time in its entirety. Should I watch the movies?
>>323664148
You should read the manga
>>323662385
>It's a [anime] game done by Platinum thread
>>323664148
>watching
>>323664148
Read the fucking manga.
Fortunately for you, they're finally off the fucking boat so you can enjoy it fully.
>>323664148
The movies are pretty bad compared to the anime, don't bother. Just read the manga
>>323664109
he is still carrying it tho, he never let his sword go
>>323662385
Flying Wild Hog desu
>>323662848
Clover were bretty good back in the day.
Bayonetta was cool too but their most recent games MGR and Korra are just too easy.
>>323664267
>off the boat
what is that mean? translated?
>>323664303
Doesnt have to deal with momentum of the swings, of course he will be faster
>>323664518
berserk guy was on a boat for a long time and it became a meme and now he isn't on the boat so the manga is actually progressing
>>323664109
Sword is in his hand the whole time, his arm is wrecked.
Also see image right under your post or his fights against assassins.
Or the fights where he cleaves people before they realize what's happening. He's also ridiculously good at blocking the attacks with his swords from a sheathed position.
a collaborative effort with capcom, From Software and platinum games to make the greates game of all time.
It also gets new content over time like monster hunter, new apostles to kill etc
>>323664741
>>323664698
still has to deal with his body + sword momentum
>>323662385
FROM, they've already made it like five fucking times.
Also Eidos made one for dreamcast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_SWne_SQ88
>slow and lumbering
Bethesda
Ninja Theory
>>323664984
still would be a better game than FROM/Platinum
>>323662905
>guts was always fast as fuck
>>323663103
>Guts is not slow and lubering, he's fast as fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI3Z9A6hmeA
Greatswords in 3 are a lot faster. And this is in a build that didn't allow leveling up so you could hypothetically make the attacks even faster in the final game when you're able to upgrade stats.
Some one post that dragons dogma web about great swords
>>323664915
His sword is closer to his center of mass, huge difference
>open thread
>brace for the first reply to be platinum
>it's platinum
Like clockwork
I'm not a fan of platinum's combat, zendatsu ruined MGR and having to use specific units to counter enemies in W101 became tedious over time.
Bayonetta was alright but some of the enemies were obnoxious.
>>323663103
>he didnt play bloodborne
>>323662385
>developed by From Software
>Dark Souls art design
>Bloodborne speed
Form a line to suck my dick.
They should do a colab
Capcom would handle the game story, world and costumizatipn and plattin would handle the animations and gameplay
And from would sit on a corner and cry cause theu are too slow
>>323665381
>holding his sword with 1 hand behind him
>closer to his center of mass than holding it ahead of him
you could at least argue that its closer to the ground, or counter-balancing him, like a tail
anyway doesn't explain all those other pages >>323664852
>>323664110
They would be better off giving it to a western dev Iike EA.
>>323665581
Its Called Dark Souls 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GP-wtaWsFIc
>>323665581
But Guts would be immensely limited by the gameplay mechanics in FROM games.
Just look at the first volume when he's a kid, the guy spins around and rips people to shreds.
While FROM could really do the atmosphere, their gameplay as evident by the souls games is not fitting for Berserk
>>323664058
A game with terrible hitboxes and framerate
Telltale
>>323665805
That's why I wrote Bloodborne, which you obviously haven't played.
>>323665895
And it would still not do justice to Berserk.
Just look at how Guts goes full RULES OF NATURE and spins around while wearing the Berserk suit.
While Bloodborne has a lot of mobility, it's still not enough for a Berserk game.
>>323666073
So you're saying that FROM could not make a Berserk game, because Bloodborne, a not Berserk game isn't like Berserk?
Are you fucking retarded?
>>323666073
Get this fool outta here.
>>323662423
This.
>no one posted this webm
It was already made on DC/PS2
It's Soundtrack is the GOAT, too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GThVF7k2NTg
A mix of From (Souls games) and Capcom (DMC games).
I feel like Platinum isn't necessary in the mix but not really sure why.
>>323666234
nice webm, ahmed
>>323666234
>not a webm but a jpeg
>a thumbnail to boot
You need to apply yourself
>>323666234
>no one posted this
Nigger
>>323664920
Alright here's a better question.
If you could have one Berserk game, which arc would it cover?
>>323666378
fuck me
>>323666553
Trailer is more hype tho
>>323666234
>Saving a JPG instead of the Webm
>Saving the THUMBNAIL
>Posting it, and not realizing it based on file size
>Posting it and not realizing based on file extension
Jesus fucking christ, this would be instant ban if there was any justice.
FROMSOFT
because they love it and they would do it justice.
Also appropriate difficulty
>>323666652
I remember as a kid getting this game and giving up on it about 15 minutes in because there was this QTE and it was like my first time seeing a QTE and my attention span was fairly low so I thought buttons were random, so I just gave up after two tries and never played again.
>>323666652
That's exaggerated, everything he hits in the manga he cleaves on the first hit, like only the diamond dragon resists a direct hit from him.
In the manga he never starts swinging like a maniac, the most I've seen him do is like 3 swings and a spin before stopping
>>323666234
Sign and Sign II are some of the best songs Susumu Hirasawa has ever made.
>>323666618
Golden Age with gameplay like in Mount & Blade, just doing battles with my raiders
>>323666718
>being this butt hurt over a mis-saved file
Who the fuck proof reads shitposts
>>323666808
>Another Golden Age adaptation
Please no...
I've had enough.
>>323666808
NOT GOLDEN FUCKING AGE AGAIN THANK YOU
>>323666860
How many Golden Age games are there?
>>323662905
>what is Bloodborne
Also they'd be making a Berserk game, nit a Souls game so of course it'd be fsst you moron.
From would also perfectly catch the atmosphere level and
enemy design
>>323663103
See above
>>323666889
Zero
I'm referring to the old anime and then the movies.
I've experienced the golden age too many times including the manga.
>>323666912
>what is Bloodborne
see >>323665829
>>323666137
Not him but the idea of this thread is to decide how to make a perfect berserk game based on what we know about the developers.
By that logic of yours every developer is a potential candidate.
Considering what we know, From would do the better job at world building. No one can argue that. But in the combat mechanics department From falls short.
That said, yes, if From was told to make a Berserk game they would probably have a different approach to combat.
>>323666959
And I've experienced too many third person action games
Conviction > Black Swordsman > Golden Age > Hawk of the Millenium Empire > Fantasia
>>323664267
>enjoy it fully.
Confirmed for not reading the manga
all of those animu/mango images are just showing motion, NOT speed
>Berserk will now be updated irregularly
>>323666986
>>323666986
>By that logic of yours every developer is a potential candidate.
Nice slippery slope, but you've completely ignored, or missed my entire point, you clearly have no idea for my reasoning, and just parroted "by that logic" like a fucking retard that you are.
>But in the combat mechanics department From falls short.
Playing Souls games doesn't qualify as an expert on whether or not FROM can make a good Berserk game, You're also confusing combat speed and combat Mechanics, the Mechanics are fine, the only issue you people have is with speed, and you assume they can't make games faster than souls because you've only ever played souls.
Broaden your horizons before you argue about things you don't understand, and don't presume you understand people's logic or reasoning since you just come off as an idiot.
>>323667134
(you)
Not From
Souls is a shit Berserk game so please no more of this meme
The company that makes gulty gear made the berserk game for pstwo
Give it to then again and they can use that shader magic that they used on xrd to make the model look like a sprite
>>323667039
>Conviction
my negro
>>323667039
Conviction > Golden Age > Black Swordsman > Hawk of the Millenium Empire > Fantasia
pretty close to yours, and honestly the top three are pretty much the same level of good compared to the drop in quality with Millenium Falcon
>>323667651
>Arc Systemworks
>Berserk Game
No. You're a fucking retard.
>>323667217
>Nice slippery slope
Nice ad hominem(s), I guess.
>fucking retard
here
>idiot
and here.
>you've completely ignored, or missed my entire point
That point being? Because the only point I can see is "From made BB faster than DS, so they can make a Berserk game, by making BB/DS but faster". Which is entirely wrong because you think a Berserk game would suffice by being faster and not changing or adding new mechanics to combat.
>Playing Souls games doesn't qualify as an expert on whether or not FROM can make a good Berserk game
You seem to be an expert yourself though.
>You're also confusing combat speed and combat Mechanics
No, I'm not.
>don't presume you understand people's logic or reasoning since you just come off as an idiot
>the only issue you people have is with speed
My issue is that even though DS/BB games might have some part of the combat covered, it doesn't cover other parts. I assume you have read Berserk so you know Guts sometimes does things in combat that cannot be even remotely emulated in any current From-made games. Some examples are posted in the thread, if I'm not mistaken.
>and you assume they can't make games faster
I clearly stated that From could make a game as fast-paced as it was needed if they were given the job to make a Berserk game, though.
>before you argue about things you don't understand
I still wonder what makes you an expert.
>>323667932
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sammy_Corporation
>>323667071
I have read it, what's your point? At least it's progressing now and we're not on the fucking boat.
I still miss Judeau, Pippin and Corkus
I'd take them any day over these damn kids in the latest chapters
>>323667806
>>323667039
My Conviction niggas, best section of berserk by far.
Conviction > Black Swordsman > Golden Age > Hawk > Fantasia
That being said I enjoy them all, and I even like the rpg party.
>b-b-but bloodborne is fast
>>323662905
Fast as fuck? Fuck no. He was comparatively fast to other people wielding greatswords, sure, but it's his brute strength in particular that makes him so scary. While any light and nimble opponent is able to avoid his attacks, assuming they know his style in advance, they wouldn't be able to actually fight him, since getting near him would get them rekt. He's too fast to have many openings, but not fast enough to outspeed actual fast people.
>>323664518
The writer of Berserk decided to slow down the pace right as Guts got on a pirate ship to travel to his destination. This led to months between chapters making guts stuck on a boat for years.
>>323668146
>
Calling out your bullshit grasping at straws doesn't make an ad hominem, you clearlly don't know shit about logical fallacies either.
>
You're guessing again, faggot.
>
Because I've played their games since mid 90's when they started, just because you're ignorant don't assume everyone else is.
>
First of all stating a fact, which is that you cannot tell a difference between speed and mechanics,isn't "presuming you understand someone's reasoning" its pointing out a clear flaw, which is if you knew the difference between mechanics and speed you would have said speed, since mechanics are fine. But what would I expect form someone who's reply is literally "no u"?
>
Again you're aruging that they couldn't make a Berserk game because souls games aren't a Berserk game, which is retarded, your argument is literally "I can't do shit guts does in souls games"
>
No, you said they would do it "differently" which in itself is an empty statement since they never made a berserk game before, there's nothing to compare to exactly, You're just being being a pedantic little shit with a heavy contrarian streak.
>
I don't know why you keep asking what makes me an expert, since you're so quick to point out ad hominem why are you so hellbent on basing your argument around using it yourself? Like I've said, unlike a little hipster shit like you, I've actually played their games, not just the lelsounique shit that you niggers are jerking to, they can actually make fast games, they can make games with complex moves, and they can make games centered around combat mechanics, but go on, scream some more logical fallacies and try to measure your dick against me, faggot.
well if FROM make a berserk game atleast it will have the same pace as the manga
1 frame per year
>>323668569
>>323667039
Mozgus figma when
>>323668239
Sammy didn't make Guilty Gear games you fucking retard.
>>323668851
>tfw across over 180+ hours I've never seen this happen.
>>323668735
sorry, he never defeated Griffith nor Serpico right?
>3 fast 5 guts
he is way faster than common soldiers with common swords as it was already showed here
refrain yourself to reply with the same shit for the 3rd time on a 2h old post next time
>>323668642
Totally slow broh.
santa monica studio
>>323667039
hawk > black swordsman > conviction > fantasia > golden age
>>323668913
I would kill for an art of war figure of mozgus. I'm getting their newest skull knight figure and I'm trying to buy a zodd one
>>323662385
Fromsoft>platnum
>>323662385
Platinum is the obvious choice.
You could give it to Fromsoft, would look good but be boring.
Bethesda would be a massive trainwreck, but it'd sell well.
>>323669453
nah
Reading this thread makes me so glad none of you faggots are involved in game design.
>tfw no Adon DLC where you have to learn the secret family techniques passed down several generations
>>323662385
Sony Sana Moloca :^)
>>323662385
Mercury Steam should be the developer. Lords of Shadow reminded me of Berserk, in some ways.
>>323668834
>Calling out your bullshit grasping at straws doesn't make an ad hominem
You don't need to insult for calling out "bullshit". Talk about grasping at straws.
The problem with parroting fallacy 'counter-arguments' is that the one doing it normally tends to throw one or two fallacies himself without even noticing.
>You're guessing again
I already asked what your point was but you don't seem to want to answer. Not like there was any point in that post, anyways.
>faggot
Calling on my bullshit again I see.
>Because I've played their games since mid 90's when they started
Playing their most outdated games (read: outdated mechanics) makes you an expert in knowing if From would make a better Berserk game? Even if those outdated mechanics would have zero effect in the game because, well, they are outdated? I fail to see what makes you an expert in game development after playing a bunch of games.
>First of all stating a fact
You clearly didn't, since you were wrong and I gave a CLEAR explanation of why you were wrong.
>you cannot tell a difference between speed and mechanics
Same as before, I made a clear differentiation between speed and mechanics. The one who seems to not understand this is you.
>Again you're aruging that they couldn't make a Berserk game
This is getting old pretty fast. I already said that if From were told to make a Berserk game, they would make it just fine.
>No, you said they would do it "differently"
No I said they would have a different approach to combat and would make it fast paced, since the combat in their current gen games wouldn't fit too well.
I don't even know why you are arguing if you can't even read posts. You seriously think you are going to spit some bullshit about a post that I wrote myself and I'm not going to notice it?
>I don't know why you keep asking what makes me an expert
Because you were 'mocking' me for not being an expert, while acting like an expert yourself. You wonder why I asked for credentials?
>>323670490
>>323668834
You know what, forget this. You were right, or won the argument or whatever it is you are looking for.
I don't want to argue with someone that is going to constantly throw insults, beat around the bush with answers and not going to address the points I'm making because it's basically a monologue like that. I'll add 'From apologists' to the list of people to avoid like the plague because they are too stubborn (and too childish, considering) to have a proper talk with. I'm too tired for this shit. I'm out.
>>323667039
Swap Golden age and black swordsman aec and we're good
>>323668343
>progressing
>>323671173
Well, more than before.
>>323668851
This was fixed btw.
FROM or fuck offthe Berserk series has no proper story layed out and will never have a conclusion, it will just keep going on as long as they can milk it
Guts' one true weakness
>>323662385
Obsidian
>>323668343
It got put on hiatus
>>323671485
It was too good to be true.
>>323662385
From and Platinum working together would make the perfect Berserk game.
>>323671421
>the Berserk series has no proper story layed out
What?
Do you mean that you don't think Miura has a plan going forward very far or at all? Because clearly the manga has a story.
FROM would probably do a good job with the dark fantasy atmosphere, but the combat would be too clunky. I think the developers behind Darksiders could pull it off though. The PS2 and DC games feel a bit like that.
>>323671745
why do people think FROM are incapable of doing a berserk game? Guts would just be Artorias on steroids
>>323671605
at least the new anime/ movie or whatever is going to be Black Swordsman instead of re doing the golden age again
>>323671421
why does guts look so shitty in the movies? I seriously can't tell what's so off about him. the lips? the nose? what?
Teamninja
>>323665726
He's flying like a fairy in heavy armor. What the fuck?
>>323671903
didnt mean to quote
>>323671903
>>323671971
I'm just guessing that they want the combat to feel more visceral than your typical character action game. I think they could do a game through the golden age arc easily. It's not like they're incapable of getting a little cuhrazy either.
Excalibur
>>323671968
the game is faster overall
between dks2 and bb
>>323670889
>You were right, or won the argument or whatever it is you are looking for.
Oh god this passive aggressive bullshit makes me want to strangle you, fuck off you castrated sack of shit, literally fucking die.
Tell you what, bitch, when you can have an argument without screaming ad hominem and pretending to know what people are thinking, then judge me or anyone else, until then, shrivel off into that inbred womb you crawled the fuck out from.
>>323671968
Good. It didnt make much sense that you could wield hammers bigger than yourself and beat down on on motherfucking dragons and giants and still be slow and clunky in regular armor.
Maybe its just me but I want souls to go more cuhrazy so by end game you will be doing insane moves like Ornstein and Artorias.
>>323672029
It's not just about the player character, which FROM might be able to handle. But you'd also want meaty enemies with a lot of variety that can be chopped into parts. You don't see much of that aside from boss body parts, which cause the whole boss to instantly switch animations and does not look fluid at all.
>>323662385
>play as an Apostle
>morality system?
>open world rpg bullshit?
>Guts is going to kill you no matter what
Who could make this work/how could this work?
>>323667039
Golden Age > Conviction > Hawk of the Millenium > Black Swordsman >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fantasia
>>323671968
Souls 3 is doing all the things I hate
Everything is sped the fuck up, your character is literally skating because the animations can't keep up with the sanic speed
Your character is the only human sized guy again, WHY IS EVERYONE A FUCKING GIANT
>>323662759
>>323663203
Have you played the PS2 Berserk game? He may not be Platinum-fast, but he's still swinging the Dragonslayer like it's nothing.
>>323672373
Im sure its not that hard to make enemy dismemberment
>>323672373
the enemies in the berserk ps2 game went to pieces didn't they?
>>323672061
Is he still on the boat?
>>323672348
What just like every other third person action game?
>creator is bored with berserk
>halfheartedly releasing every so often
>"welp i've had enuff of this turkey just gonna wrap it up"
>cue naruto ending
>single page of guts sieging griffith's castle and skewering him
>guts and casca kiss
>"20 yrs later"
>old guts is looking on his son Pippin
>"I'm gonna be a great warrior like YOU dad!"
>old guts smiles
>the end
>>323672535
Because I want my Armored Core back, so fuck you, Souls, and take that 4FA dick.
>>323672685
Platinum already made a system for dismemberment in Revengeance, it was a pretty big selling point so it can't be too simple to make.
>>323672856
nah Im fine with what the combat is now. I just want to see more silly stuff like Artorias sword and that gigantic hammer that you spin and launch yourself with in Das 2.
>>323672998
nah he will just kill everyone off except Griffith
>>323671945
It's his lips, they look ridiculous.
>>323672709
Yeah but i think it was scripted to do so, depending on whatever sword swinging animation Guts was using. I have no real reason to believe that though other than ps2 era limitations.
>>323672998
it's like you've never read any of it
>>323673119
I didnt like the fact that you could only cut damaged enemies. First you beat them with your form sword and then they just turn to butter. Still a fun game but I couldnt get into it. That original prototype Kojima studios made looked infinitely more fun
