Let's have a normal debate
You forgot the key difference
>Nintendo vs. EA
Makes a pretty big difference on a board full of weeaboos.
Not to mention BattEAlfront has less content than Battlefront 2 had 11 years before it.
>>323620146
So games are judged based on the number of players, availability of voice chat, and number of maps?
>>323620146
Battlefront only has 4 maps
Splatoon was a new IP that didn't have anything to live up to.
Battlefront was a 3 third game in a series that removed a lot of things people liked about it.
Splatoon has uniqueand fungameplay. Battlefront doesn't
>>323621115
I don't see a 3 at the end of that title, anon.
>12 maps at release
You mean four maps rehashed over and over?
one is the best shooter of 2015
>>323621236
Just no.
>>323621236
It's a Star Wars Battlefront games. 3 or not. It's a sequel to a franchise that already exists. Not same anon btw
>>323621236
I don't see a 3 either, but I do see an EA at the end of that title, and that says just about everything you need to know.
>>323620146
They're both trash
Splatoon's 4v4 gameplay is superior to Battlefront's 20v20 style though. Stop insinuating quality scales linearly with size.
>>323620146
The thing is that Nintendo didn't ruin my favourite shooter.
>>323622140
/thread
>>323620146
Splatoon involves the community with events such as splatfest and, as far as I know, has released a ton of free maps and game modes after release
To get the full game of Battlefront you'd need to buy a $60 or $50 season pass on top of the games price tag of $60 which is pretty steep all for a game that's meant to have a long lasting entertainment value
>>323621409
>>323621474
>>323621527
I don't see how a game that's not a direct sequel made by a different studio should be held up to the same standards as previous games with the same title.
>>323620146
>Has 10% of the content of its 10 year old predecessor
>Has shitty gameplay
Huh, I wonder why Splatoon is held so much higher than that piece of shit game.
>>323620146
that's because people have low standards when it comes to nintendo products, we don't grade them on the same level as everything else.
>>323622283
They could have at least made it like the previous games and not COD with a star wars skin.
I don't even know the last time I played Splatoon, but know they've released a new map like every other week. They must have gotten at least 8 additionalfreemaps added since release.
>>323622283
Except that studio is obscenely rich and they could've easily made a decent game if they wanted to, yet they made an interactive jewgrab ad for the upcoming shitfest of a movie.
>>323622283
Are you retarded?
>>323620146
>quantity over quality
This is why people kept bashing the Wii OP, it had more shovelware titles than games that could actually peak people's interests. The same could also be said for all the PS4 multiplats people keep trying to rub in your face, doesn't mean you're going to buy every single one of them.
>>323622519
god I fucking hate 2hu
Splatoon's gameplay is more fun, and has more singleplayer missions and an actual campaign. Also the DLC for Splatoon is free. To get the full Battlefront experience you have to pay $110.
>>323621323
Is this bait?
>>323620146
You can't judge a game solely by numbers
>>323620146
Battlefront=cawwadooty in a star wars skin. Fuck off faggot.
>>323622519
>What is Castlevania?
>>323620146
Splatoon at least did something kinda innovative.
Splatoon has 10/10 top tier core gameplay dragged down by a frankly underwhelming amount of content and the absence of various quality of life upgrades that are industry standard for online games. No lobby load out editing, no regional servers, can't back out of lobbies, a lack of songs on the sound track and a lack of maps (even map variations), the map rotation feature makes sense in theory to prevent scenarios where 99% of games are on one map (looking at you black ops nuke town) but rotate too infrequently and have too small a selection, only one ranked mode is on at a time and rank is universal across all ranked modes.
It's fantastic gameplay sabotaged by its framework it exists within, a perfect exemplar of Nintendo's great game design but terrible inability to keep up with industry standards. Would have benefitted from a second team or company who do a lot of online play helping them.
>>323621962
>A shit game is superior to another shit game
I don't understand.
>>323622397
>>323622531
>>323622539
Frankly the only problem people seem to have with this game is whining that it's not like the game they wanted. If we rated every game like that there'd be very little to recommend. I think the amount of biase this site has is so staggering that they're not willing to give any popular publisher a fair chance.
>>323623289
>generic team shooter entirely focused around a single bland gimmick
>"10/10 gameplay"
no
>>323623404
When you take a game, market it as a successor to a critically acclaimed game, and then fail and are massively inferior to said predecessor you deserve everything you get.
Plus Battlefront is bad in its own right.
>>323623404
>Only /v/ doesn't like Battlefront.
Kek. How's that buyers remorse?
>>323623583
There was no marketing that said it was a successor to anything. They just said it was a Star Wars shooter for the modern gen.
>>323623623
No, the general consensus is that it's good but not great
>>323623404
>Frankly the only problem people seem to have with this game is whining that it's not like the game they wanted.
But the game was marketed like this:
>"Remember that awesome Star Wars game you played for 300+ hours?"
>"Well, we are going to make a game like that, but better."
>>323623849
>There was no marketing that said it was a successor to anything.
>literally uses the same name
Fuck off
>>323623849
No, I rememeber that on the site of the game they hoped to complete the spectations that everyone had about the game, which means that they should have at the very leat based their game on the other two games.
>>323623919
>>323624016
>>323624091
So you're saying we have to base every single game on past games? That's bullshit. Games should be based on their own merits. To not do so is to admit a heavy bias before even going into the review process.
>>323620146
I just decided to buy splatoon and my little brother gifted me Battlefront 2. I'm having lots of fun, therefore clearly the winner is me.
>>323620146
One is a new entry that's introducing a new thing and playstyle.
One bastardized a well loved series and absolubtly ruined most of the original appeal of said series, on top of jewing the crap out of you.
I hate current Nintendo and refuse to buy shit from those fucks but splatoon was a step in the right direction, EA shill, fuck off.
>>323624274
IF A GAME ISN'T EVEN AS GOOD AS ITS DIRECT PREDECESSOR WHAT JUSTIFICATION DOES IT HAVE TO EXIST AT ALL? IT'S NOT OKAY TO TAKE SIGNIFICANT STEPS BACKWARDS JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T FALLEN OFF THE CLIFF YET.
>>323624274
That's not what I said, that's what EA said.
>>323620146
Gameplay
>>323620672
and time [my numbers] > [your numbers] then your [game] is shit.
this is really how /v/ reasons
>>323624535
Because it's not a "successor" you fucking shithead!! It's a fucking whole new entry.
>>323624274
Tell your employer to not lock content behind a paywall that's almost the price of the game itself while you're at this please. Especially not before release
>>323624490
And I am 100% sure that EA is going to make some kinda deal with Sony so that they don't allow SWB2 in the porting of PS2 to PS4 games.
>>323624535
>IF A GAME ISN'T EVEN AS GOOD AS ITS DIRECT PREDECESSOR WHAT JUSTIFICATION DOES IT HAVE TO EXIST AT ALL?
It honestly would've been fine if the game at least did SOMETHING better than it's predecessor.
>>323624706
lel this guy
>>323622519
>>323622519
>Western vampire
>castlevania
Good stuff, 6/10
Half a year later
Splatoon still has more content than Battlefront
Fuck, it had more content 2 months later, which is Battlefronts current timeframe
battlefront definitely does not have voice chat btw
>>323620146
>Nintoddlers standards vs. PC Standards.
Yes, we know they're different.
We know the nintoddlers can't play better games.
But this thread seems off, like it was written by someone who might be a fan of a certain other Japanese companies products...
Like it was written by them in order to 'troll' other users...
hmm.
>>323624274
>So you're saying we have to base every single game on past games
Yes, games in a series should be based and compared to the earlier titles, when your game has less content than the first games 11 years ago there is a problem. And don't say "hurr durr its not a sequel cuz there is no 3 in the title" its still the third game in the series, there is a certain standard that should be met. It like if they made a Duke Nukem game that has a two weapon limit, less levels and worse gameplay after over a decade of waiting.oh wait...
>>323620146
So what exactly happened with battlefront? Why did they spend so long to make such a small game?
It seriously feels like it was made in a few months to be worth around £15 or be F2P not a full game.
>Remove enter-able vehicles
>Remove classes altogether, everyone is a variation of a basic trooper
>Remove space battles
>Remove campaign
>Remove everything in reference to prequels
>Have literally one map in reference to sequels
>Have 6 heroes total, down from the ridiculous 20+ battlefront 2 had
>Everything is rebel vs empire which are purely cosmetic differences, no more droideka's vs clone snipers or any of the other crazy matchups the last game had
I just dont understand.
>>323624490
>Boogeyman Neo Nintendo
Pedophile censorship whinner detected
>>323622519
> hurf durf hurf
>>323620146
>my cousin liked BattlEAfront
>tell him that it has no fucking content
>tells me "Why are we suddenly judging games by content now?"
How do I respond to this?
>>323625082
It's like you guys don't know what the difference between a sequel and a reboot is
>>323624706
And why call it the same then? Why not call it "Battlefield: Star Wars re-skin"?
>>323625020
>Nintoddlers
>>323622283
Then maybe they shouldn't have called it Star Wars Battlefront?
>>323625082
*its like
whoops
>>323620146
>one is modeled after actually fun shooters of yore
>one is modeled after spunkgargleweewee
Guess which one is which.
>>323620146
>this thread
>>323625117
>>323625206
I honestly would have been okay if they had just based it off battlefield and skinned it as such, instead they make it arcadey shit with powerups instead of skill
>>323620146
Splatoon is overrated for sure. Opinion on Battlefront is pretty accurate I think
Battlefront had a legacy to live up to
Splatoon was a new IP
>>323622519
>imploding the scarlet devil and her sister wouldnt eat you alive while you screamed your last
don't blame touhou, blame the secondaries
>>323625170
>Since when have we not?
Seriously, since when has it been okay to have an incredibly small amount of content. Good to see the industry taking it up the ass more than usual.
>>323620146
>Splatoon
>best shooter
>best multiplayer
>Battlefront
>???
>>323625117
>remove
That's where you're wrong, they didn't 'remove' anything.
They simply didn't add it.
It's not like they got Battlefront 2 and just started working on it again, it's a new game on a different engine, from the ground up.
This doesn't excuse them, but your insistance on them 'removing' thing that you insist must already have existed is wrong, those things didn't exist and would had to have been made.
>>323625118
No
I'm talking about not having an ethernet port in 2012
I'm talking about the completely monetized DLC 2007 system they're taking after being against it like complete hypocrites.
I'm talking about their underachieving hardware with nothing more than a gimmick that just makes developing and porting games harder, then they wonder why no one wants to develop for them.
I'm talking about the horribly stupid decisions like only allowing one game pad
I'm talking about horrible stuff like splatoon locking out tons of people randomly at times because of the badly implemented p2p system
I'm talking about their horrible actual ps2 textures on a hyped, developed in house star fox game after years.
I'm talking about them being 10 years behind everyone else ranging from limited monetary transactions to their online shop to their multiplayer.
I'm talking about their need to just keep rehashing games with no real gameplay and when they try to make it just a bit different they throw everything out of the window like skyward sword.
I'm talking about how they keep fucking up things until I realized I was done with their crap
But no, I must be upset because of the censoring!
>>323623404
Ok, let's be objective then:
>Gameplay is dull and repetitive
>No classes, something basic in a first/third person shooter
>No reward in terms of gameplay. That is when you get to play a legendary character it isn't because you've earned it by playing it good
>All guns feel the same and they work the same among other similar weapons
>Very little content in consideration for the price
>Little to no gameplay modes in consideration for the price
>60 dollar season pass that will not fix the previous issues
>You'll pay twice for the content of a single game
>DLC that adds nothing
When making the comparisons with other games I'm not making them to the other two Star Wars Battlefront, I'm doing it to most shooters out there.
>>323625461
The powerups arent a problem at all
The problem stems from everyone being exactly the same class archetype more or less with pretty much just perks to differentiate each other.
Whereas earlier games had shock troopers, engies, snipers etc. and everyone had different roles and shit to play.
>>323622519
>What is a man? A miserable pile of secrets.
is this hailed as fantastic writing now? is this to replace the "MGS2 was a masterpiece" meme?
If you don't compare Battlefront (New) to Battlefront 2 and want to judge it based on its own merits then technically its just a really lackluster game
The only thing it has going for it is nice shiny graphics compared to a ps2 game. 10 years on. There isnt really that much to talk about in the game. The lack of content is actually shocking
>>323624697
Don't forget:
>Arguing about Nintendo
Sales matter!
>Arguing about any other company
Sales =/= Quality, retard.
>>323622519
DING DONG NIGGA U INCORRECT
>>323625714
>"The powerups arent a problem at all"
Anon, are you fucking shitting me?
>>323625117
Actually it's kind of obvious what they were going for.
Understanding their motives involves thinking about the target audience.
Targeted at people who buy it because "its star warz XD"
How could it have ended up any other way?
Everything they had went on graphics and sound.
Nothing beyond the skin and bones of gameplay was deemed necessary.
This is how games are now.
If you don't like it, time to stop buying AAA.
Can't win in this shitty industry.
>>323625676
>subjective, I like it just fine
>classes are a relic of the past, the modern thing to use is custom load outs
>the point of playing isn't to get to play as a hero, it's to win. Winning is the reward, anon
>but they don't. If this is true then there wouldn't be a meta about how a certain gun is too OP
>fun cannot be priced. A fighting game has only a versus mode, is this too little content for you? A single player game only has a story mode, is this too little content for you?
>again, there is no issue here except the ones you've created in your head with your mullish conviction that this game murdered your family or something
>no, the DLC maps add extra things, that's why they're DLC
>maps and heroes aren't certainly conjured out of thin air, anon
>>323625117
Because after Disney made that deal with EA giving them exclusive rights to publishing Star Wars games for the next decade, the EA executives were lost in a trance wringing their hands in delightful glee for many months before they realized that meant they had to make a game.
>>323625502
He'd probably argue something about how games with little content like Sonic Generations get praise. How do I respond to that?
EA basically took one of the greatest multiplayer franchisees of all time and took a massive heaping shit on it with one of the most poorly designed shooters with some of the most lacking content for a full price release with a focus of graphics over gameplay and says "oh you want a full game? Fuck you pay an additional $50"
Nintendo made a new IP, and while lacking, shows creativity and fun compared to the boring shit heap that is Battlefront and could prosper into something great with a fully fledged sequel
>>323625714
I do think powerups that activate vehicles or heroes are a problem because in the previous games heroes were only awarded to top players, making it skill based instead of luck based.
I agree with you on everything else, I had forgotten about the classes, although when I asked for it to be closer to battlefield I figure that's part of it as well.
>>323620602
>Not to mention BattEAlfront has less content than Battlefront 2 had 11 years before it.
This.
All DICE had to do was take Battlefront II, make it look prettier (even then I probably wouldn't have cared if it looked just like BFII), put in a few more maps, and call it a day.
That's it. I would've even been fine with shit like custom loadouts (Elite Squadron did that, I know that much).
Also changing Factions vs Factions would've been nice. Clones vs Stormies is so damn fun.
>>323620146
Both games suck.
OP's pic btfo
>>323622283
Why did they call it battlefront then?
Go shill your game somewhere else
>>323626320
He was being totally objective anon.
The only possible way you could think differently is if you are legitimately retarded.
>>323626404
this.
Also EA has a season pass going for 60 fucking dollars whereas Splatoon has had a huge amount of free DLC at a steady clip.
>>323626626
I would have just made it like Battlefront 2, make it pretty like it is now, maybe run it on battlefield's recent engine to save time, and just add in the new movie content.
>>323625117
because they hoped people would buy it just for being star wars and they were right casuals did fall for that, but now star wars fever is dying so casuals are buying it less and less and are moving on to the next nerdy thing to latch on to.
No actually star wars fans like this game I have yet to meet one who even had one nice thing to say about it besides its graphics.
the best part is rebels and episode VII accidentally make fun of a few of EAs retarded design decisions
>>323620146
Battlefront is shit, just get over it and move on with your life. The gameplay is simplistic and casual friendly as shit, every weapon works the same, the maps have no flow, gets boring after a couple of hours because of that, no strategy based maps, no decent customization, no campaign at all, vehicle modes are boring as shit... so on and so on.
Honestly, I blame Tortanic. /v/ is like the autistic kid who called it right once and now spends its days with its fingers in its ears yelling that the next game is a failure despite all evidence to the contrary. Stay classy, assholes, knowing you fuckers are alive in the world makes me feel a little less like helping humanity. And with that, I'm out. It's obvious there's no changing a hipster's mind once he's dead set on it. Here's thought. Breathing is such a popular thing to do. Why don't you shitheads be all hipster-like and stop breathing? It'd do us all a real favor.
>>323626363
Tell him that praise means nothing, and that Sonic should have stayed in 2D.
Tell him that an all powerful corporation like EA has the obligation to give you something that is worth the price of what you are paying for.
The studios behind Sonic are all half dead, less content is expected.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4idYQTU.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>323620146
Splatoon doesn't even have Splitscreen.
>>323625642
Those things did exist in the Battlefront franchise, which this game is a part of, therefore saying that they have been "removed" is accurate
>>323620146
You need to put quotations around splitscreen on the splatoon side.
>>323622519
>not japan-influenced western vampires>WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>323620146
>splatoon is fun to play
>battlefront is not
The rest of that shit doesn't even matter.
You're forgetting the most important part, that being the gameplay and the mechanics are pretty fucing different. Splatoon at least brought something new to the table, or if you're gonna be a shitter and mention De Blob, relatively new and unexplored.
>>323620146
This sub isn't called NintenGAF for nothing, anon.
>>323628523
He was banned for purposely trying to start a console war. This is plenty obvious.
>>323624274
>Worse than a PS2 era game with the same name
>Acceptable
Pick one
>>323628523
Inciting console wars is a long standing ban offense
>>323620146
when you get in doubt OP, remenber what >>323621939 said
actually, write on your wall
>>323628862
>>323628714
But there are console wars threads like every day, and no, he wasn't.
>>323620146
Image needs updating, the total number of additional Splatoon maps landed at 11.
>>323629221
Let's not forget that they are also free
>>323620602
How are weeaboos and nintendo related?
>>323620146
>no Galactic conquest
i'll never buy this unless they add it.
so never.
>>323620146
>left
>innovative
>right
>game i played last year with 10 year old gameplay
>>323629372
>Let's not forget they were also on-disc
Why does this sub love Nintendo so much?
It's okay when Nintendo does it - The thread. God I hate this place.
>>323620146
>left
A new IP
>right
A bastardization of an old IP.
>>323630789
Five of the eleven were on disc, so if you wanna get technical there were six maps developed post release for free.
>>323631191
That's is not what is being talked in this thread.
>inb4 you are a Nintentoddler.
I hate Nintendo, I don't even own a Wii U or one of their shitty handhelds, besides an old Gameboy.
>>323620146
Splatoon has more depth and better mechanics than laserfield does.
>>323620146
Haven't played the new Battlefront, but I think it's just getting the Nuts and Bolts treatment
What I mean is that it's a decent game at most, but considered shit because it's in the same line of games as a critically acclaimed masterpiece
Holy fuck, that Battlefront "info" is some strong fucking bait.
>voice chat
No
>single player and coop missions
No
>12 maps at release
Try 4
>2 free maps
Stop
>unconfirmed number of hurr fucking durr
Literally only one worthwhile game mode, the rest were all gimps and screw ups that were tiny little wastes of time
>>323627184
>the best part is rebels and episode VII accidentally make fun of a few of EAs retarded design decisions
How so?
>>323622519
Have to admit, the only time Nerf Now actually made me laugh.
>>323622519
DIE MONSTER.
Stat wars battlefront ea
>ea
>50$ season pass
>deluxe edition or pre-order for best gun
I rest my case.
>>323632430
Rebels makes a few references to all blasters needing ammo which contradicts EA saying star wars guns do not use ammo.
Episode VII has the line where phasma tells finn he is not allowed to take off his helmet unless ordered to. Which has been canon even before VII but its the first time mentioned in the movies. Dice was lazy as fuck and just copy pasted the head models from the rebels on to the storm troopers. Whats funny is their are color coded units in canon they could have just done that.
Also only a dev who never saw episode V would put tie fighters on hoth.
>>323623849
>general consensus
Other than EA marketers literally everyone I know that has played the game hated it. Hell I played it and it shit on the memory of the other 2.
What's a "season's pass"?
I didn't buy any of the next gen consoles because I decided instead I was going to go through a huge backlog of retro games (when I was growing up we only had Nintendo consoles, we were a one console per gen house and my mom didn't want me getting M rated games since I had so many younger siblings, the PS3 was the last console I'd bought a few years ago. ).
>>323633041
>Also only a dev who never saw episode V would put tie fighters on hoth.
Doesn't Rogue Squadron or one of those games have TIEs on Hoth?
>>323622580
>>323630796
>this sub
>>323633491
nope no game has ever had tie fighters on hoth beside EA battlefont that I can recall
the reason why for anyone who forgot is that the shield the rebel based had would stop tie fighters from getting close. It also defeats the purpose of the AT-ATs when a tie bomber could easily just destroy the generator. They pretty much missed the whole point of the battle.
voice chat is not a positive and player count doesnt require massive numbers to work not to mention any sane person has sworn off playing EA shitI think both are shit
>>323633983
>voice chat is not a positive
Try playing a game as a random on a team of no mic having faggots against a well coordinated team of people with mics.
You will get your shit pushed in basically every time.
trying to compare splatoon to battlefront is like comparing california to arkansas. They're both in the same genre/country, but that doesn't mean they're even remotely similar.
>>323632184
>as a critically acclaimed masterpiece
No, it's not loved among plebs. It gets the hate it deserves because it uses the Battlefront title just as a means to sell games.
Star Wars Battlefront II, a game that came 11 years ago, is infinitely better,
>>323620146
I have both
I had more fun with Battlefront due to voice chat, me and my friends running around Sullust Walker Assault as Stormtroopers and yelling REBEL SCUM while missing every shot
I did play Splatoon more though because it had content
Contrary to popular belief Halo 5 is actually better than both, because it takes most of the good from the two and combines it, unless you need Split screen.
Tom Clancy's The Division
None of the games I have mentioned in this post worth $60
>>323634321
>Arkansas
Woo Pig Sooie
>>323621235
Its not unique but battlefront is fun
>>323634290
did it all the time in wow and avp
granted it makes the shitters on your team heavier but shitters will be shitters
>>323620146
>cherrypicking No-ContentFront's actual good material
>"Muh voice chat"
>Tired argument from 2015
Bad post OP
>>323633931
don't forget
>shield generator prevents aerial bombardment
>somehow you're still forced to use a personal shield to protect against this
>but muh woomy woomy
>>323625202
In that case, why is first entry in series made today worse than first entry in series made in 2004? Why does game made over 10 years later have less content?
>>323634890
or the fact that they have star destroyers visible on hoth, while in episode V they were outside of orbit so the rebels could not shoot them with ion canon while the empire just sat there and took it. They picked the worst battle to market the game with because half the stuff in their version of hoth makes no sense
>>323634937
What are you attempting to imply, you fucking mongoloid?
>>323635145
woomy? woomy.
>>323633041
>>323634890
>>323635105
>we promise the most accurate star wars game ever
>gets more stuff wrong then games coming out years ago
Only EA and Dice could have fans defending this
>>323633041
I believed that blasters used the same cristals that are used for lightsabers.
>>323636231
Different crystals, but blasters still need energy packs to fire.
>>323633041
Well Rebels is boring so nobody actually watched that
Everything else is pure incompetency, which should be expected from DICE Stockholm
Meanwhile DICE LA, aka the competent studio is tasked with 2143's fucking campaign
>>323636231
they do use a crystal but not lightsaber crystals and use ammo, even x-wings and tie fighters need to dock to get more ammo its just they have so much no game really needs to mention it
>>323636470
even if you hate rebels other sources cite guns using ammo, its just rebels is the most canon source referencing it. I would love it if episode 8 had a gun reload to drive it home though
>>323633364
cool blog where do I subscribe?
>>323632439
Vid related is for Splatoon shills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UviO7IVd90
>>323638946
Here is your (You)
>Construction company builds functional, pretty and comfy building
>Gets bought out by huge contstruction company
>11 years later, they put a really good looking brick in an empty lot
>say it's the spiritual successor of the building
