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What's the difference?
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Marketting.
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Sperglord metalheads vs cool 80's synth guys
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>>323331234

Hatred tries a bit too hard.
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Tetris
>pressing buttons
Bloodborne
>pressing buttons

What's the difference?
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>>323331234

Subtext and some really dope music.
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One's fun.
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>>323331234
in one you are an edgy mass murderer who kills unarmed civilians and the game glorifies it

in the other you are a guy killing mobsters that are shooting you back in a wacky cartoony game.

seriously, you have to be an extra autistic edgelord fedora wearer to like Hatred.
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Shooting innocent civilians
Vs
Shooting criminals who will kill you if you don't kill them
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Hatred: Developed by neo nazis
Hotline Bling: Developed by progressive swedes
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Presentation

inb4 legit autists don't understand how that would affect ratings
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>>323331234
hotline miami was making a stylistic statement with the flashing colors and the giant score numbers and all that

hatred was just trash. plus HM was a better game anyway
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One's a bad game and the other one is Hatred
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>>323331234
Hatred you kill people who are just living their daily lives out of anger
Hotline Miami you're doing it because someone's threatening your life and they're bad people too
Also hotline miami more focused on melee weapons and is way faster-paced
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>>323331234
>color, setting, story, music
Shall I go on?
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One is stylish and fun.
The other is try hard and edgy.

this can actually be applied to either game but hatred is shit
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Unbiased opinion here

Hotline Miami > Hatred > powergap > Hotline Miami 2

My only problem with Hatred is that it's a bit too graphically demanding for a top down game, but I'd rather play Hatred than HM2 anyday.

>mfw when I played HM2
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IF hatred had a sequel this year it would be the worst sequel ever this year but HM2 was a good game which added to the first
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>>323331234
Execution.
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Hotline Miami is more of a traditional arcade game. you die, die again, and keep dying, but it has that pull to keep you enjoying yourself, and once you've completed it, topping your score.

Hatred on the other hand, it doesn't seem like it really knows what it wants to be. it's not a bad game, it's just a meh game.
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>>323331519
>hotline miami was making a stylistic statement with the flashing colors and the giant score numbers and all that
>stylistic statement

I bet you sniff your own farts
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>>323331234
One has an interesting story and good music
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>>323331838
>HM2 is shit because i can't melee the entire game
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One is made on purpose to piss off sjw, and the other is made by people who enjoy videogames.
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>>323331234
HM is fun with a interesting story expanded in a sequel. The other appeals to edgy faggots.

You could put Doom and CoD in your pic with the same text, and it would be equally stupid.
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>>323334091
It wasn't made to piss off SJW
But of course a game like it would pick up a lot of heat, especially from them
That's hardly the devs fault, they didn't go around intentionally showing those specific people their game

Hatred is literally just postal 1 with better graphics
That's it
And who said they don't enjoy games?
Where did you get that from?
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>>323334362
Postal 1 was trash.
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In Hatred you're shooting innocent people who fear for their life. In Miami you are shooting aggressors who will kill you on sight. Is it really that hard to comprehend the difference here?
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>>323334434
I didn't say it wasn't
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>>323331234
In Hotline Miami you're primarily only killing men.

In Hatred you can kill men and women.
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>>323334362
The game was marketed since the beggining to edgelords. That's why the devs did an ama on cripplechan.
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>>323334362
>It wasn't made to piss off SJW
kek
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>>323334775
The game is a fucking joke you retard
Did you even listen to the dialog?
It's 10 year old kind of "edgy" it's so overplayed it's not shocking it's funny
The ending was epic too
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>enemies in Hatred - Americans
>enemies in HM - Russian mafia
Obviously muricans cannot handle their own genocide.
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>>323331234
Combos, good music, and well designed levels
by the way, hatred runs like shit
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>>323334941
Tell that to the faggot shilling that shit here back in the day. It was like a statement against the sjw boogieman.
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>>323331234
In hotline miami you actually just shoot russians.
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You made this thread a week ago
It was 90% people saying Hotline was a good game while Hatred was shit.
The same shit is happening now.

fuck off retard
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>>323331234
One is good and the other is bad
That's it
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>>323335110
Hatred did do something important tho
It showed that committing genocide and horrible things in games is "fine" if it's gta for example, but hated is "too much"
Twitch even banned it
Just shows how delusional people are
Moralfags are the worst
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>>323335276
>all labs matter
calling bullshit, labradoodles dont matter.
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>>323331234
Music, aesthetics, plot, design.
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>>323331234
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>>323335683
Great comic
What makes it better is that the way people defend committing genocide in GTA compared to Hated is just that
>It's satire!
What the fuck
Retards
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>>323335467
Can't disagree with that. But still, the game was marketed on that premise. Hatred fans were like Undertale fans right now. They pushed the game for the wrong reasons.

HM still is the better game, OP pic is retarded.
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>>323331371
Tetris is a good game.
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Hotline Miami is artistic and puts on a mysterious face.

Which is fucking hilarious because the whole point of Hotline Miami is how trying to justify violence because its "artistic" or that it's "social commentary." is super dishonest. Hotline Miami revels in violence why also admitting how fucked up its love for it is, but it never tries to justify it.

Hotline Miami basically makes fun of people who say stuff like Hatred is disgusting and HM is art. It's anti-art, meaning it does the exact same thing hatred tried to do but in a much more clever way.
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>>323336349
Yes
People who think Hotline miami had some deep story are delisional
I mean ffs, one of the endings of the game is the DEVS THEMSELVES telling you there was no point, that killing is fun and you wasted your time finding all the letters
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>>323334362
When will you 8ch faggots stop trying to rewrite history? It was shilled endlessly about how this was the one game that would make teh sjws have a stroke, it was marketed from the very start about how it was going to be the edgiest game ever, there was nothing about it being a parody at all at any point, if we take what you are saying as true that means that Tameem was telling the truh about how DmC was a deep tought provoking game about the social bullshit he talked in a interview
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>>323334091
>One is made on purpose to piss off sjw

i feel that is a bit disingenuous, although based on interviews with the devs, it's not entirely not true either. the impression i got was that they just wanted to make an absurdly over-violent videogame as a homage to controversial games of the past, such as Doom and Mortal Kombat.

also, the devs themselves look like "edgy" guys who wear death metal t-shirts. it seems reasonable they'd make a game like Hatred. i don't think it's different from people who make films produced by Troma. violent/gorey media is just another niche genre tbch, and you're either on board with it or not.
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>>323331234
Game on the right has a terrible sequel.
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>>323336832
Then why is GTA so overpraised by the games media?
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>>323336607
The sequel kinda retconned that though. And is heavily implied that the whole story was written for the first game.
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>>323336349
You're giving hotline Miami depth and meaning that's not there
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>>323336994
Bloggers are pussies, they wouldn't attack a Rockstar game because gamers would see through their bullshit and call them on it.
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>>323336832
>Polygon and Kotaku

Point us some actual criticism anon. Hatred is mediocre at best.
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>>323336994
It's an established staple that can't be touched. Plus satire, even though gtas satire is family guy tier.
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>>323337040
That's bullshit
Come on nig
If you played both of them it's very obvious that HM 2 exists because of the fans of the game, not the devs planning some epic story
HM 2's story is retarded and awful btw

>>323336832
It's funny how things go backwards
Postal 1 came out years ago and it had the same exact reaction

>>323336994
Because it's a sarcastic game with crazy awesome characters
It's satire, so it's okay xD
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>>323331234
hotline miami has good music, gameplay and story

i don't see the point on hatred
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If Hatred was fun to play it wouldn't really be a discussion
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>>323337135
>You're giving hotline Miami depth and meaning that's not there

But that's the point, it doesn't have depth or meaning.

The devs knew people would try to dig up some hidden themes or message due to how HM is presented, but there is none. They specifically poke fun at these kinds of people by trying to act mysterious and artistic just for the sake of it.
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>>323337421
Listen here, fuck you fucking faggot cuck, HM2 is the best and you should die
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More like Hatred vs. GTA.

>GTA Praised as the best in the industry
>Hatred which doesnt even show blood gets shat on

fucking double standards
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>>323331503
I doubt that Dennis Wedin is an SJW, though. MAYBE Soderstrom is, although I follow him on Twitter and he has never said anything than an SJW would say, at least not on Twitter.
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>>323337549
And they still pulled out a couple of awesome games. I personally like the overall plot. Some other fags like the fast paced gameplay, """critics""" like the commentary, others like the music and pixel shit.

Those games are so good they can group every niche audience.
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>>323337678
HM2 was indeed a big letdown... I mean, just look at the ending and the level design.
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FUCK ALL OF YOU WE KNOW HATRED IS THE BEST GAME HAHHHHHHHHHHH AM I RITE
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>>323336210
Underrated
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>>323337678
Half the "special" abilities of characters were either broken or useless
The war parts are god fucking awful

Story is pure shit

Game's okay tho
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>>323338193
The ending is great. You must have just been too busy crying about them not making more Hotline Miamis.
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>>323337713
To be fair, GTA didn't start as edgy nonsense. Modern GTA is pretty shit, but they have some history to fall back. Hatred was promoted as "omg the most offensive shit ever!".

You can bet the devs were all happy with this kind of press.>>323336832
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>>323337678
>entire game is built for corner peaking and luring enemies to you
>better than the first, where melee was the focus

Nah nigga, you're dumb.
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GUYS HATED IS GOOD RITE

HAHA I KNOW I AM RITE :^))))))))
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-q5BfMIE6M
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>>323331234
Hotline Miami has more going on than killing.
Hatred doesn't.
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>>323338472
What? The ending was a heaping pile of shit. They literally blew Miami up; that's just lazy writing.
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>>323336994
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/australian-retail-stores-stop-selling-grand-theft-auto-v-article-1.2033475
>The Australian retailers have both released statements saying they will discontinue the sale of Grand Theft Auto V due to the inappropriate and violent content.
you were saying?
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>>323331684
>living their daily lives out of anger
I know that feel
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>>323338605
>GTA didn't start as edgy nonsense
Yea, a game where you steal cars, run people over and are a criminal killing people and dealing drug didn't start as "edgy nonsense"

Kill yourself
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>>323339015
Australia is also the country that considers anyone with no breasts a loli so they are retarded by default
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PunbEq7koEk

The bad ending is the same exact thing
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From looking at the videos of the hated, and playing the actual game of Hotline Miami's. The one big difference is that Hotline Miami aesthetic is a bit more mature or shit just even more unique and enjoyable than Hotline Miami. That and the game doesn't control like shit, the enemies are more fairly placed, and dying in Hotline Miami is hardly a big deal. The music is almost always bumping hard and the whole experience, even if it's somewhat waterdown in Hotline Miami 2 is still pretty great. Where as just from watching Hatred, that I don't really want to play the game because it's controls seem to be rather lackluster and the fact that /v/ likes Hatred due to how they empathize with their main character because they are just as pathetic sounding as he is. Well I can just simply have no desire to play the game. Even if it does have thepotential to be aesthetic. It's the same reason why I don't want to play the Postal games. I generally don't like my wackiness to be too mean-spirited and visa versa.
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>>323331234
Ones an edgy as fuck innocent killer simulator and the other is bad guy shootem up.
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>>323338861
The whole point was an alternate version of the cold war with miami as the setting.

>>323339157
The game became what it is now because of a glitch. Go play GTA2 and see how is edgy. Is not. Is just dumb, fun shit, like Quake.
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>>323339015
That's Australia tho
They ban everything
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>>323339157
GTA was literally so edgy that Rockstar had to come up with something that would outdo GTA and thus Manhunt 1 & 2 were born
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Guys quick whats the difference between GTA and Hatred ?
Oh yeah it was > LMAO satire xD s
o its oKAY
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>>323339451
Go play Hatred and see how is edgy. Is not. Is just dumb, fun shit, like Quake.
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>people are still taking Hatred seriously
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>>323331489
>break into some russian people's apartment building
>they try and defend their property
>murder them
I-IT WAS SELF DEFENSE!
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>>323331234
Hotline Miami was fun and actually ran on everybody's computer

that's it, I don't care about any of the psuedo-intellectual bullshit, it was simply more fun than Hatred
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>>323339603
Hatred was marketed to edgelords since the beggining. It rode on controversy and gamergate. And is actually a very bland game.

GTA just started doing that since V.
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>>323333895
no it's shit because it's paced slow as hell, the enemies have sightlines beyond where you can see when zoomed out, and the level design isn't tight and concise to allow for smart and fast play

and the characters are shit
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>>323339907
They didn't do any marketing besides releasing a trailer
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>>323339781
It's confirmed in the game that they're mobsters. You specifically go there because you're told to kill Russian mafia. Normal people don't carry that much heat and blow and keep hookers locked up in basements.
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>>323331234
the difference is hatred was just a boring twin stick shooter that got forgotten about a few days after release, while shitline miami was a meme game that redditors literally couldnt stop talking about because "muh jacket" and "muh ost"
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>>323340124
You didn''t actually play HM, did you?
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>>323339353
Jesus christ, those animations are fucking bad, really fucking bad, this looks like a shitty indie game from 2010 or something
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>>323340086
Viral marketing. See cripplechan.

>>323340078
>he plays as Tony
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>>323340096
You're saying what you're doing in Hotline miami is a good thing then?
You sound like the edgelord cunt
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>>323340424
>See cripplechan.
Also here, there were 3 Hatred threads at all times until the day it released and then it died
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>>323331234
The biggest difference is the soundtrack.

Hotline Miami's music psyche you up. It's fast paced and makes you want to frantically fuck up everyone in the room as hard as you can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aLOkTo3IpU

On the other hand, all of Hatred's music is just ominous. The song's convey a feeling of "I'm doing bad stuff, I guess" instead of "Fuck everyone in this area they should die."
The game needed some edgy metal or something to fit with the rest of the game, but instead the tracks are all just lackluster.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGRpMM55pjc
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>>323340292
nope
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>>323340504
No? I'm saying you're not killing innocents. You're killing bad guys.
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>>323340504
see >>323340861 you aren't killing random people on the streets like in Hatred, you get called in to deal with bad men are doing bad things, that's it
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Both games are basically edgelord: the game. but hatred is actually the better game.
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>>323341207
You didn't actually play it did you? The AI is fucking braindead and I don't think the devs have fixed yet the abysmal performance issues
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Hatred wouldn't have gotten a tenth of the attention it did if, the gaming media hadn't all lost its collective shit about it all at the same time.

Classic case of Streisand effect.
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>>323341023
50 blessings pls go
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>>323331234
Hatred is a try-hard edgemaster game with trenchcoats and a bland art style.

Hotline Miami has a colorful and cool retro-80s art style with animal masks, mind-fuckery, and a brilliant soundtrack.
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>>323342370
But hatred is a better technical quality than game maker hotline
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Hatred is about one edgelord trying to kill everyone regardless of their intentions or judgements

Hotline Miami is about one autistic mute trying to kill people just as fucked up as he is
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>>323331356
Hatred is satire
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>>323331234
One's fun and has a story.
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>>323335646
>he doesn't like labradoodles
fuck off satan
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>>323338359
>kill yourself
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>>323331489
>Shooting innocent civilians
But they're pixels.
How do you judge how innocent a pixel is?
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>>323335867
you do know that buckley isn't being sarcastic in that comic right?

that last panel is not meant to be ironic
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>>323340096
>You specifically go there because you're told to kill Russian mafia.
>It's 'Harry' from managment. We have a problem! There's big mess over by the Condos on 122nd SE St! One of the residents' water pipe burst, wet all over! The whole buliding is gonna be flooded soon... hope you can get this shit ASAP... Don't go easy on the mop!
Well I'm glad you cleared that up.
>Normal people don't carry that much heat
This is America we're talking about.
>inb4 im american
Libcucks aren't American, sorry.
>keep hookers locked up in basements
Only one nigger does this.
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Muh neo 70s atmosphere and music
Not edgy shit
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>>323338670
>tfw I like that sort of thing
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>>323342926
Is what the devs said after people played through it and said "holy shit this is actually edgy linkin park shit" to which the devs pulled the nerd at a party routine and said "heheh yeah it was just a joke, can we go home now?"
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>>323339015
Ausfag here, the stores that have discontinued GTAV sales are not really important. It's like if Wallmart or Tescos or something like that stopped selling games (for instance, they may not but go with the example). No proper retailers that specialise in games have discontinued sales.
>>323339197
Also not true, never passed in law.
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>>323336210
ZING
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>>323342791
>technical

One of those games runs on everything. There's nothing "technical" about Hatred.
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>>323344237
A
BBBBBBBBBB
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>>323340861
>bad guys
hang yourself libcuck
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>>323342791
Sonic 06 is a better technical quality than Super Metroid, doesn't make it a better game.
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>>323331234

Hatred was made by neo nazis in a desperate attempt to cash in on the Gamer Gate, anti-censorship, free speech craze. And it was a shit-turd dissapointment.

Hotline Miami was at least a little bit interesting, but ultimateley yet another far fetched reason to insert ultra-violence into a game, and claim it was the consumers fault for consuming the product presented to them.

They are both rubbish, but Hatred was more blatant and desperate and therefore more pathetic. And it was also objectiveley a shit game, while Miami was challenging and addictive.
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>>323331371
tetris is on PC
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>>323331234
hotline miami is actually a good game
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One has both style and substance, the other has neither.
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>>323334362
>Hatred is literally just postal 1 with better graphics
Not in the fucking slightest. For starters, there was a genuine motive to Hatred: Kill everyone and everything.

Postal 1 had Postal Guy go just that: Postal. It was a fucking creepy and extremely psychological game (Not to say 2deep4u, bu tit was obviously just meant to look like it was made by a crazy guy) that ends with him killing a bunch of children at a playground before he shot and killed himself.
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>>323331234
Hatred:
- Marked to the edgy crowd
- little to no story
- IT IS IRONIC AND THUS LE GOOD xDDDD

Hotlina Miami
- Marked as a game
- has somewhat of a story
- isnt trying to be satire/ironic/whatever and just tries to be a game (and succeds)
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Hatred is shit and HM is 10/10.

HM2 is shit too.
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>>323340096
You murder a bunch of cops too. Both games have edgelord protagonists. HM is a pretty fun game, though.
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>>323344095
no. it was fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that it was satire from the very first fucking trailer. It's ridiculously, stupidly edgy to the point of being hilarious.

The devs have never come out and said "Guys it was a joke!!!" as you claim, because that would actually ruin the joke. All they've said was that it was a statement against forced politeness/ political correctness in games.
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Fucking Corey was the most useless character ever
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>>323331234
One of them is a good game
Hint: it's not hatred
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