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New Underrail thread, get in here jacks!

Want to try a full psi build, is Riot Armor the best choice for defence in this case? With or without shield? Also should I invest in some Dexterity for traps/throwing as backup to psi?
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You'll need the shield if you want a psi bonus. Adding the psi-beetle carapace to riot gear will make a shield.
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Why the fuck is there no psi light armor. Why.
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>>323165637
Oh ok, so I guess I'm gonna have to take a pistol with me, right? Can I hit anything with it even though I put no points into guns?
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>>323165453
>Just finished Arena
>Get told I fucking dominated everyone
>Fuck ye
>Walking around looking for something to do
>Find that Crotech or whatever place
>Head in
>Talk myself into a job interview
>Heading to the interview guy
>Start talking, asks me why I wana work for them
>Says "You seem to be perfect for the job, or as the people of Core City would put it, you'd dominate at it."

Fucking yes I love this game
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>>323166307
I love all the slang in this game, it really helps making the world more unique.
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>>323166307

>Joining Coretech
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>>323166307
POST YOUR ARENA NAME

>The Weatherman
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>>323166475
Keeping my options open, just kinda wanted to find out what they were about.

Does accepting the quest lock me out of anything or is it just completing the quest?

>>323166508
I was the motherfucking Paralyser, niggas couldn't even get close.
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>>323166075
Maybe a rat or two. Not much else. You'll only hit something if it's been stunned or otherwise incapacitated.
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>>323166412
There was unique slang in this game? Muck, I never noticed it.
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>>323166475
>>323166607
JKK are the scummiest, Coretech has the best trader and is pretty cool aside from its boss and Praetorian is awful but the most "noble" one I guess.
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>tfw playing a character with low defence and shit initiative in the arena
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>>323166906
Yeah well with psi there's gonna be a lot of stunned folks I guess.
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>>323166307
>go to the Institute of Tchort
>keep raving at the other members about how no-one seems to care that you're the Invictus
It's a game of love.
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>>323166607

Yeah. You can only join one of the Core City factions.

Coretech gives you high tech stuff, JKK gives you sneaky stuff, and Praetorian Security gives you heavy armor and weapons. Coretech also has one of the hardest missions in the game.

>>323166508

Firestarter. I'm not a psionic. I just really fucking like Magnesium Molotovs.

>MFW
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>>323166909
Dude what?

Derailed, jack, hardcore, dominating, pipeworker, zoner/zone off, getting in motion... There's a bunch, really.
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>>323166508
I broke the other gladiators mind and had him beat to death by his imaginary dopplegangers while he huddled in the corner, crying in fear.

>Psycho
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>>323167008
MC is short and ugly. That much is canon.
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My experience with Underrail:

>get told to go to the northern caves to fix something
>take the boat because it's the only apparent way forward
>vast area of lifeless town without any quests or meaningful dialogue
>need to pay to pass a gate guarded by thugs
>trade my stuff in for charon coins and continue
>there's only more lifeless town without anything to do
>reach yet another gate
>only this time I need to pay 5 times as much to get past
>uninstall.exe
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>>323167115
>>323167008
>>323166913
What's the best for a Psi build? Coretech?

Also is Tchort under that or can you join any = Tchort? They sound interesting as fuck.
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>>323167179
>I went the wrong way therefore the game is shit

I think it's you that's pretty fucking bad, anon
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Reminder that full-dodge, no-tank builds cap at 60% evade and are shit as a result
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>>323167218

Coretech or JKK. It basically comes down to what Vendor you want. Coretech's vendor is electronics, JKK is light armor and stealth weapons, and Preatorian is heavy armor and weapons.
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>>323167115
>JKK gives you sneaky stuff
You have my attention, please elaborate.
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>>323166508
>sniper rifle
Brutalizer.
>assault rifle
Metal Storm.
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>>323167179
Good lad. It was for the best.
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>>323167218
Tchort is something else entirely, don't worry about it.

Coretech has the best trader for any build I'd argue, simply because energy shields are something for everyone.

>>323167179
How fucking dumb do you have to be? Is this bait?
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>>323167329

http://www.underrail.com/wiki/index.php?title=Ola_Halidorson
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>>323167179
Before you uninstall, Tanner wants his money coins back.
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>restart for the fourth time
>this time no psi powers
>stack up on ammo
>spend all ammo on rathounds
>the crossbow faggot heals up
>forced to beat him to death with 40% hit chance
>do so
>beat his faggot rathounds
>evade tanking is godmode
>no ammo
>no money
>fucking pissed
underrail always makes me angry
IM ANGRY ABOUT RAILS!
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>can't use ventilation shafts i opened as escape routes while in combat

What's the fucking point?
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>>323167464
Does he sell high quality black cloth and soft padding? I have Tailoring for armor and don't need stealth weapons, so these two are the only things I care about.
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I think we need to add READ WHAT THE FUCKING NPC'S ARE TELLING YOU TO DO SO YOU DON'T GET LOST AND MAKE AN IDIOT OF YOURSELF onto the infographics

the amount of fucking people that go the complete fucking wrong way on the FIRST quest, or don't bother talking to any of the NPC's Tanner tells you to (therefore missing out on not only all psionics, but also the fucking generator power core) is staggering, then they get pissy and blame the game.

>>323167619
Robots can't open doors. Just sit in that room there for a while and they'll give up eventually and combat will end.
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>>323167584
You're off the rails, anon
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>think I'm rich
>guess it's time to make that armor out of money
>suddenly a mansion
>check prices
>yes I would like plasma turrets for my balcony how is that even a question
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>>323167619
How do you expect to crawl into a small vent while people are shooting at you and/or trying to hit you with hammers?

Also, they'll know you're in there. They'll shoot the fucking vents.
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>>323167854
Oh yeah regarding housing, where the fuck do I get the workshop and laboratory?
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>>323167908
>completely closed off room
>only robots without arms trying to find me

yeah that totally makes sense friend, thanks for explaining away the "feature"!
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>>323168070
How about you wait for like 3 turns so you're out of combat you fucking retard.
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going for an Smg throwing build - I dont want to invest in too many different crafting skills is mechanics and electronics going to be suffcient? Are the infused leather stuff only available through crafting?
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>>323168204
good job defending poor design decisions

i bet you think the lack of view rotation adds artistic merit to the game too
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>>323167993
I think it was another meta joke.
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>>323168217
I'd argue that mechanics and electronics are the most important skills in the entire game aside from your main offensive skill.
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>>323168281
The lack of view rotation saves costs, because there's only so much one guy can do with his spare money being the entire budget.
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>>323168281
>waahh I can't cheese the fights by climbing in and out of vents all the time!
>this is unrealistic so its poor design!

Go play fucking Fallout 4 or whatever you scumbag.
>>323168310
Nah someone said you get a 15% crafting bonus on those workshops, seemed legit.
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>>323168217
Couldn't hurt to chuck a few points in tailoring as well. Really all the crafting skills except chemistry are useful for every build.
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>>323167584
>IM ANGRY ABOUT RAILS!
You're out of line.
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>>323168491
Yes, because closing a door and waiting isn't "cheesing" a fight.

How fucking deluded can you be?

>>323168483
Fair enough. Could it have hurt to make the walls a skoshe more transparent when you/enemies are obscured by them, though? Like, holy hell is it tough to see my targets sometimes.
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>>323167679

I'm not sure. Sorry anon.
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>>323168505
>except chemistry
Say that to my fucking napalm grenades, I dare you.
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>>323168602
>Yes, because closing a door and waiting isn't "cheesing" a fight.

Only sentry bots are unable to open doors you fat mongoloid.
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>>323166508
Angel of Death, baby.
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>>323168602
>Fair enough. Could it have hurt to make the walls a skoshe more transparent when you/enemies are obscured by them, though? Like, holy hell is it tough to see my targets sometimes.

Easily the most legitimate complaint about Underrail there is. That shit is annoying, I actually killed myself today because electrokinetic kinesis doesn't show up when you hold Shift if you've got it hidden behind a wall, and i'd forgotten I'd put it down.

>>323168902
Edgy as fuck
What did you do to earn it?
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>>323168602
The door thing only works against animals and robits, and while i would definitetly agree that its cheap, situations in which there are no humans near doors tend to be pretty low.

I also definitely agree with the camera view. The worst is trying to click an enemy directly behind a door. Hopefully he will do something about it eventually.
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>>323168946
>Easily the most legitimate complaint about Underrail there is.

If that's really all there is to complain about then the game is a legit 10/10 because that shit happens like 2-3 times in 20 hours.
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>>323168602
Yeah, the wall transparency can be annoying, like when trying to place a force field, or picking up loot. This is one thing that I doubt would require much work to change, so maybe if enough people ask for it he might do it. He is willing to change small shit for quality of life reasons, like when he added the regenerating health warning in one of the patches.
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>Went with Protectorate on my first playthrough
>Gimped through the game
>Had to cheat to beat Tchort because lolstealthmelee
>Filled with rage and determination
>Make a new character
>No psionics
>No guns
>Heavy armor
>Unarmed
>I'm going to rip that dumb faggot eye out with my bare hands
>Join up with Free Drones
>Hey these guys are way cooler than Protectorate
>They care about each other
>They don't treat me like shit for being a Southerner
>Get mission to blow up Elevator
>Don't have any stealth so go in hot
>Rip and tear through the upstairs
>Get downstairs
>Some asshole trips the alarm
>Murder everybody
>Duck in a side room to heal and recharge shields
>Suddenly, door opens
>IT'S THE FUCKING CAU
>Pop Adrenaline
>Pop Focus
>Pop Jumping Bean
>Mash Sprint
>Proceed to BEAT THE FUCKING CAU TO DEATH WITH MY BARE HANDS
>THIS IS FOR MY LAST PLAYTHROUGH YOU SICK FUCKS
>They gasp about me breaking bones
>Beg for mercy as they die
>MFW
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>>323168946

i dunno, i was just stealthing and sniping and killing shit in one hit.
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>>323169075
you've posted this before but it is an inspirational story for the ages so i'll let it slide
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>>323168491
You can get a doctor's bench in Junkyard, and a mechanic's bench in Rail Crossing. Not sure if there are any other ones, but I'm hoping there is, as there's a really strong shield that needs making.
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>>323169075
>joining the Free Drones because the Protectorate was s-so m-mean!
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>>323168897
And rats. And dogs. And burrowers, and spiders, and bladelings, and anything that isn't humanoid.
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>>323168897
doesn't make it any more or less cheesy than you think climbing in vents would be

do you even know what you're arguing anymore?

>>323168946
>>323169050
>>323169062
everyone says the dev is bro-tier, so maybe he'll change it if someone suggests it? i can't imagine it being overly difficult to accomplish and it would make the lack of camera rotation a hell of a lot more bearable
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>>323169314
Tell me about all those rats, burrowers, spiders and bladelings inside buildings.
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>>323169474
>he hasn't been inside the base infested with burrowers

its not a pleasant place
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>pirate this shit to try first as I don't trust /v/ enough to buy it purely on recommendation
>looks like fallout 2 but less charming and bland as hell graphics
>moving around is so goddamn slow
>actions are clunky as fuck
>no map, no questlog, no any sort of QOL improvements.
>Each important person is on a different floor of a goddamn 9 floor commie block
>Quests are uninspiring and variations of "fetch this shit" or "turn on this shit"
>combat is dull, just spam your attacks with your weapon of choice, use a special skill every 5 minutes and heal before you die. I'm sure it gets better on or whatever but it's not giving a brilliant first impression.
>came to a part where I supposed to find some missing person in a cave. Some black motherfucker refuses to share his cigars. No option to kick his black ass into the lake.
>Explore further. Some psychic bugs keep fucking my shit up
>Decide to stealth. Get halfway there. The some fucking cave critter runs up to me and fucks up my stealth. Psychic bug decides to fuck my shit up.
>Run away back to base. Realise that there is nothing about this game that makes me want to suffer through all this bullshit to get to "the good parts".
>uninstall.exe, thank god I didn't buy.

I can find some masochistic pleasure in Xcom or even darkest dungeon but this game is just a pain to play.
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>>323169162

Thanks bro.
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>>323169474
have you even been outside of SGS? holy fuck

there are lods of rathounds and all the little stations you go to have doors, not to mention the chainlink fences with gates

are you just desperate to defend yourself now?
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>>323169563
its not for everyone anon, and thats ok
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>>323169563
I don't blame you
It could have been amazing but it just feels so...insipid and uninspired instead.
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>>323169563
>Decide to stealth.
You can't just "decide to stealth". You gotta have the skills.
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>>323169563
Yeah man, back to Fallout 4 to frag some charlies.
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>>323169717
No, there aren't "lots", that's only like 2-3 places in the entire game.
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The anon complaining about the vents is right.

I can understand not being able to Omnitool a vent open but rip a hole with a Crowbar seems reasonable enough.
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>>323169802
Please, my build had stealthing in mind.

It's just that you walk slower than a geriatric person with one leg while stealthed, while those fucking cave critters just zoom about like fucking sonic.

There's always half a dozen of those fucks in every screen as well, and they all turn invisible unless they are right in front of you so you can plan your route in advance.
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>>323169950
arguing semantics means you're fighting a losing battle
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is this a real game?

i thought these were just parodies of all the Undertale threads
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>>323166508
Sandman
>knives everywhere
>taste for blood, all bleed feats
>cut throat

even if it's edgy as fuck i love it
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>>323170123
But it's actually pretty important to the point you hooknosed swampbitch.
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>>323170123
Who cares, anon. There is no point in this argument.

I really want Styg to do something about those vents though. Completely overhaul the entire concept. They haunt my dreams. There are in my nightmares, forever out of reach, laughing at me. Mocking me.
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>>323165453
if i pirate this game can i update it
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>>323170312
not really

>>323170350
I do enjoy the fact that you can peek and all that shit as well as entering the vents themselves - it was pretty awesome just bypassing hacking/lockpicking checks via a multitool. Wish the crowbar actually worked.

Or maybe it does and it's just a strength check I don't know about. Whatever, pure PSI is fun. Except robots right now. Fuck robots.
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>>323170478
Don't see why you shouldn't be able to as long as you can get the patches from somewhere.
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>tfw get to fight Styg himself
>tfw I won the initiative roll
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>>323170631
oh
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>>323170573
Strength check with crowbar, lockpicking check with omnitool.
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>>323170573
How can you possibly have trouble with robots as a pure PSI?
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>make sniper
>get sniper rifle
>piss-poor accuracy
>find night-vision goggles
>suddenly 95% chance to hit on everything and everyone
DEAD. SHOT.
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>>323170763
Oh, I didn't even realize the omnitool had a lockpicking check. Good thing I leveled that anyway to power all five stations.

Fuck this game is fun.

>>323170842
Only thing that does any damage is Electrokinesis at this point, it looks like

If I'm wrong please correct me
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>>323170923
Telekinetic punch does a solid amount of damage to them.
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>>323170081
>It's just that you walk slower than a geriatric person with one leg while stealthed
Which is why you get the Interloper feat at start.
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>That final arena battle
>Expecting the big reveal to be that Garry is Dread Lord
>Garry is Carnifax
>Garry KILLED Dread Lord

>Announcer freaking the fuck out over the mic
>Fight starts
>Die in turn 1
Literally perfect
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>>323171019
Oh shit, it does? I read that any non organic would ignore the stun and assumed it was shit. I got that Feat that doubles the damage too. Thanks mate.
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>tfw thinking to make an impossible 20 str character with cheat engine to have all the fun in the world with balor hammer
Someone pls stop me.
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>>323171256
They do ignore the stun, but the attack itself does so much raw damage that it's worth it.
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>>323171304
Counter it by lowering your agility and dexterity to 1.

Maybe even lower Will so you're only weakness is magic.
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>>323171304
is there no combo to use that thing legitimately?
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>trying to fight carnifax
send help
can't even make it into turn 2
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>>323172274

What build?
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>>323172234
Only with buffs which is boring as fuck given that you will need to carry 50 units of dead weight all the time and use it for a minute.
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>>323172274
the only way I was able to beat him was by beating his initiative on my SMG character
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>>323172234
>16 natural str
>regalia of the rat king (+1 str)
>food
>supercombat stims

or you could always use Hercules. but that'd kill you
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>>323172538
>>323172274
yeah, i went through with sniper and i had to beat his initiative to win.
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>>323172581

>or you could always use Hercules. but that'd kill you
>Not having 1000 HP
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>Wandering around some place (not gonna say dont wana spoil)
>Doing some minor quest
>Suddenly find a place unlike the rest of the area
>Step in
>Suddenly the huge doors shut and lock behind me
>A guy walks in
>Speaking to me behind some glass
>Tells me he wants to eat me
>He fucks up
>Manage to escape into his compound
>He's coming for me

Fuck me I found this by mistake too, this is fucking cool.
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>>323172349
>>323172538
>>323172628
I somehow lucked out and survived till turn 2 without being Stunned/incapacitated (I honestly don't know how), and from that point on it was just stun into slow into fear into stun into dead. Shame you can't loot his shit, but wew lad Invictus time.

>tfw he died to a trap
anticlimactic but i'm sure as fuck not starting over for a more "satisfying" kill, i was lucky to get that one.
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>>323172729
iirc the defuff is permanent
>-89% movement speed
>-40 movement points
>-20 STR, DEX, AGI, CON
>pasquale downright tells you it's deadly
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>>323173010

>Full PSI
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>>323173129
I told you what you could do with your sledgehammer build last time, jack
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>>323173085

It's 10 turns. If you can tank 600 Bio damage you'll probably live.
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>>323173221
i guess it's a viable option for balor's then
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>>323172993
I just hacked the main door, after his mistake, then walked up behind him and turned his brain to mush.

Frighten + bilocation. Force him to face what he is.
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>>323173518
Are you me?
Literally a psi hack myself, just hacked the door about to fuck with him while he pisses himself.
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>>323173207

What the fuck did you just fucking say to me you little bitch? I'll have you know I graduated top of my station in sledgehammering and I've been involved in numerous secret raids against the Protectorate and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in Rathhound warfare and I'm the top hammerer in the entire Free Drone Armed Forces.
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>>323173010
>Shame you can't loot his shit,
Why do people, Al Fabet included, think you can't loot in the arena?

After you kill your opponent just pop some adrenaline and speed loot the body on that final turn.
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>>323173518
the only way bilocation could be any more incredible is if the clone said spooky shit to the person while beating them up
like normal bandit taunts
but spooky
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>>323173684

>MFW I realized Mental Breakdown causes two Bilocation clones to spawn.
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>>323173909
Wait what, really? Thats fucking rad.
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>>323173909
>premeditate mental breakdown
>biolocation
>cocoon yourself with forcefield
>sit back and watch from your impenetrable fortress as a man is beaten to death by two identical clones of himself
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>>323173909
Has anyone tried LoC + Bilocation?
It would clone everyone in the room, right?
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>>323174358
thats exactly what it does
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>>323174282

>Locus of Control
>Premeditate Enrage
>Cocoon yourself with Forcefield
>Watch former friends beat each other to death for your amusement.
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>>323174358
Yup.
Then just hide behind a force-field and let them be consumed by their nightmares.

Fucking psionics are brilliant. Styg did great. Imma go on the forum and tell him that. Love psionics.
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>>323174429
>>323174817
swell, gonna roll wizard right now
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>>323174817
>>323174358
>>323175331
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>>323174675
Add the gas grenade to the mix.
Watch at the carnage.
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>>323175331

The Locus+Bilocation combo isn't that great at high levels. The Bilocation clones damage doesn't really scale and they'll usually just heal through it.

Enrage is better to use IMO. Or Psi-whatever Interruption on groups of Lunatics.
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>>323175478
It's just unfortunate that you don't get exp when enraged enemies kill each other.
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>>323175801

>Not playing on Oddity
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>>323175801
>he plays on classic
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>>323175801
>classic
second playthrough?

if not, wew
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>>323176231
I still dont understand what purpose the second picture servers

what am i missing?
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All right, I'm a huge shitter and I want to get into this game because psi looks cool as fuck. I have no problem with the genre, I really liked the new Shadowrun games.

But I've tried twice now to get a psi character going and I just keep getting my shit pushed in the second I leave the station. Is it because I don't have armor? Is it 1000% necessary to buy armor before you even encounter your first enemy if you want to be a psi user? Is it because I only have 6 or points in CON? Should I really forego INT and psi point regen for a little more health?

Anybody got pointers for a total noob?
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>>323176376
No need to dump stat so severely. You get extra stat points every 4 levels.
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>>323166508
Cripplina, as a pure psionic.
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Even though its boring is a high constitution build with strength and perception to use metal armor and assault rifles viable? I also put some points into int but I skimped on wil dex and agi.
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>>323176329
meditate on it
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>>323176376
The first couple of quests are kinda painful (mainly just the first one). Learn to use the environment to your advantage against the rats, blow up exploding barrels, force them in to one square wide chokepoints etc. Once you've got a few more spells you'll start to board the rape train.

There is nothing especially wrong with that build, but i'm going to nitpick. 8 Int is unecessary, you need 7 for a super strong feat (+15 psi energy on headbands you make), but any more then that is superfluous. High con is good, 7 minimum. Make sure you have at least 4 Str so you can wear riot armor (AKA wizard armor). That Per isn't really necessary but there also nothing especially wrong with it, it'll come in handy for detecting stealthed enemies and traps I suppose.

I hope you like crafting because you'll need mechanics, electronics, biology and tailoring. Level them in this priority, Electronics is most important, then tailoring, then mechanics, and you need bio at 35 for that feat I mentioned earlier but for nothing else.

Don't skimp on being a wizard master, max out all three psionic skills on every level up.
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>>323176836
Yeah. Chuck in 6 Dex for grenadier and you'll be the warmachine.
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>>323176868
Good tips, appreciate.

How about like this other anon said,
>>323176502

Is 10 will starting a good idea or should I bump it down a point or 2 to spread my stats a little?
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>>323176376
theres armor in your locker in your room jack. you'll need to get into the habit of searching containers

>6 points in con
I'm working with 4. You should be fine.

>that per
do you plan on using guns?
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>>323177131
If you're planning to be pure psi you start with 10 will and put every extra stat point from levelups into will.
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>>323177131
10 will is mandatory basically. Every point of will is another 8.5% damage to all your magic, you're better off lowering Int and waiting a bit longer before you can make super psi headbands then sacrificing Will. There is nothing wrong with low dex and agi, as long as you accept you will never have the initiative ever ever.
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>>323177150
>do you plan on using guns?
I don't have a strong desire to as I'd rather go full psi, but psi seems like the kind of thing that you need a backup plan for at early levels and per has some other nifty traits along with being the gun skill.
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>>323177065
Thanks for the tips, not sure how I'll find 3 point to put into dex but I'll try
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>>323177384
It's not necessary, but its worth thinking about.
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so I'm trying to roll a tanky muscle wizard.
any tips? planning to rock full metal armor and fists
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>>323177359
I thought i'd need a backup, but my per and gunz have been a waste of points outside of starting area rathounds
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SALE WHEN?
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>>323177359
Dont bother, the only guns you need are IN YOUR MIND
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>>323177131
This game can be min max'd pretty heavily, so there's no real reason not to specialize. I personally went 3/3/3/10/3/10/8, but what you have seems fine enough.
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What's your most annoying enemy, jacks?

I fucking hate Crawlers. They're thoroughly tedious to fight.
And they're the only enemy I've ever seen dodge a full five-bullet burst fire at 80% chance to hit.
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>>323177503
>Artyom
I c wut u did thar.

If you're goin fists you need a lot more Dex. Almost all the cool fist feats require Dex. If you want to be a punchwizard you won't do well in heavy armor.
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>>323177503
Premeditation requires 6 int and is something you really want as a psi.
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>>323177503
>Fists
Might want to consider dex instead of Str. If you're going psi monk, anyways. You can probably do both, but I'm not sure where you'd get the points from.
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>>323177795
same here, crawlers are a fucking chore, even with a stealth build + motion goggles half the time they bump into you before you can see them. the stealthy crossbow humans can be annoying too if they stun you.
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>>323177795
Fucking Burrowers and their asshole, I-get-7-attacks-per-turn spawn.
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>>323177795
I can more or less agree with Crawlers at this stage. There are certainly more tough enemies out there, but Crawlers hitting you and then disappearing again, then having to wait around until they decide to not hide immediately afterwards is definitely tedious.
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>>323165453
Is a sledgehammer build do-able?
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>>323177795
burrowers

*tck* *tck* *tck* *tck* *tck* *splat*
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>>323178103
ehhhhkinda/10

I wouldn't advise for a first run.
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>>323165453
>>>/vg/
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>>323178103

Yep
10 starting Str
Eventually get Con to 10 for Thick Skull
6 Int for crafting
Get at least 6 Agi for sprint
Dump Dex, Will, and Perception

Wear heavy armor. Take hammer feats, Heavy Armor crafting feats, and crit damage feats. Sprint around like an asshole mashing people's faces in.
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>>323177795
Carnifex the lord of forced buttsex.
He gets first initiative roll, I can't stealth.
I stun him, he just tanks it.

I'm regretting doing a squishy monk right now.
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>>323177503
You don't have enough CON for one of the best CON traits, Last Stand.
Tactical vests or riot armors are more than tanky for anything you can encounter if you couple them with energy shields.
Psi fists are honestly pretty shit unless you fully dedicate your build to them and them alone because they will such 5 psi on each melee attack, psi which you need for other shit.

So decide first what you want to do. Here's my example of tank mage with grenades as backup weapons.
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>>323178803
>>323177958
>>323177934
>>323177920
Guess I'll just go riot armor with psi plates and put some more points into Dex.

Gonna spook raiders and cave protectorate faces in. See ya jacks, will post update at Depot A.
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At what amount of points in throwing your grenades get 90% accuracy at mid distances?
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>>323178548
Freezing him should give you the time you need to exit combat and stealth.
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Where do I get blueprints for riot gear so I can put psi beetle carapaces in? Also where are psi headband blueprints?
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>>323180016
armory guy at SGS
Ezra at SGS
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I killed the last opponent in the arena and became invictus. However I failed to get enough action points to loot his body before the match was over.

Does he have anything really good I should not pass up?
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>>323180612
nope, shitty monk gear and a bunch of meds
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>>323180612
nothing good. invictus was a badass to the bone, not to his equipment
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>>323180612
Pretty sure he's using nothing special, he's just that good

>>323176867
I STILL DONT GET IT
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>>323180710
>>323180719
>>323180798
Thats lame, it took me like 30 trys to beat him.
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>>323166475
>he doesn't want easy 120+ electronics components
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5 str
4 dex
9 agi
10 per
3 con
3 Will
How does this look for a sniper build? I'll probably dabble in traps latter
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>>323180798
>I STILL DONT GET IT
keep trying
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>there are people who never used gas and cryo grenades in conjunction with psi abilities
You only need 20 in chemistry to craft a grenade that lasts 10 turns, infects anyone inside with contamination and deals good damage EVERY turn while being on a build which can effectively seal the only entrance for 4 hours.
What's your fucking excuse?
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>>323181819
I'VE BEEN STARING AT IT FOR DAYS, EVERY SINGLE TIME IT GETS POSTED

I
DONT
GET
THE
SECOND
PICTURE
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>>323182003
It makes you continue playing the game, which is called Underrail.
Geez, man.
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>>323181975
I fucked up and put points in stealth as a pure Psion I guess I should restart
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>>323181351
Damn that's sexy.
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>>323181975
I find using doors I have keys for more amusing.
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>>323182003
>play underrail
>you're already playing underrail
int is an important stat, don't dump it
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>>323165453
Really? Didn't the first one just get released in September? And what is this? Where's Sans?
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>>323182309
Around level 12 ish onward, I've been just kind of throwing puts around in my crafting skills because I've got extra to spare. I wouldn't bother with restarting, since by the time you get to the point that you'll want those nifty grenades, you'll be able to start ranking the shit up.
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>>323182217
>>323182395
AHHHHHHHHHH

AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>323182241
how is the not desert eagle?
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>>323182241
Weren't pistols heavily nerfed on release? Is a dedicated pistol build still good?
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>>323182447
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memegame
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>>323182447
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So is it confirmed that the quality of super steel is influenced by your level, or is it all rng? I've got like, 20k charons sitting around and I might as well melt some.
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>>323182808
RNG iirc. 70-160 quality.
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>>323182654
>>323182767
just don't respond please
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Any tips for first time players? I have commitment issues and suffer from heavy restart stress disorder
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>>323183156

How about you say what type of guy you wanna do and we'll give you build suggestions?
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>>323183156
>roll first character, doesn't matter what you chose
>get assraped at Depot A or earlier
>roll second character, learn from your mistakes
>go to Depot A, make it through with some effort
>go to core city, tackle arena
>decide that you want to be even stronger
>roll third character, destroy everything

that's usually the natural progression. but tell us what kind of stuff you wanna do.
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>>323182606
It's better than the hammerers in that it has a far tighter damage spread and really good crit damage for a pistol, but it's shitty overall since it has an even higher AP cost and you can't mod it with rapid reloader, so you will be stuck with even less shots.

That's the problem with most uniques, no mods. But they are a nice alternative for no crafting builds and it's arguably more fun.

>>323182626
>Weren't pistols heavily nerfed on release?
Only the energy pistols I think. An electroshock pistolbuild used to one-shot 3 enemies each round if done right.

>Is a dedicated pistol build still good?
If you do things right you can get up to 19 shots per round, and if you have Expertise, special ammo and high crit chance it all adds up pretty nicely.
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>>323183156
General tips?
Read
Pay attention
Read
Explore every nook and cranny
Please for the love of god read.
Also if you feel like you're weak at first, don't worry too much. Everyone starts off badly.
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>>323183585
What is that bone arm?
Third row, 4 from the left.
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>>323183771

That's the Ripper man. 3 chances to cause bleed.
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>>323183771
Ripper Glove. Best thing ever for bleed builds.
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>>323183156
While exploring unknown territory, quicksave often. Theres no telling when some dickass assassin or hunter might pop out of stealth and kill you before you can react.

>Tfw just finished the last fight of the arena
>feeling like a god, a titan amongst men
>go for a stroll in the back alleys of core city
>jumped by some punk hunter and killed in two turns

h-ha ha
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>>323165453
>See on /v/ it's a good game
>Purchase it
>Create new game
>See the oddity system

What the fuck? So it's basically fetch quest the game? Glad they implemented the classic system. I hate looking for shit boring as fuck.
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>>323183771
Found in Utility station in Insitute of Tchort

Pretty good on bleeding builds.
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>>323183983
>Fetch quest
What? I'm not sure whether to feel upset or confused. It's not even vaguely comparable to fetch quest. Oddity has shit scattered around everywhere that you study to gain experience. It rewards exploration, and noncombat builds, but even if all you're doing is looting everything in site, oddity will do you just fine.
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>>323183585
>wasteland hawk
>gluck 17
>bieretta 99
Fucking Styg.
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>>323183983
>So it's basically fetch quest the game
You aren't tasked with finding anything. It's sort of like Pillar's system except with consumable items instead of areas
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>>323183983
>fetching shit
Hell no. You find shit that gives you experience. Nobody ever tells you to go look for it.
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>>323184351
No one uses this old shit anymore Anon, people probably barely remeber how it's called.

Also copyrights I guess.
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Is there any way for me to get a Black Eel sigil without killing one of them and sending the whole faction hostile? I was dumb and didn't let any eels die, so I cant get the sigil off their dead body.
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>>323184356
Yeah but if you want to become stronger you're going to have to look in every nook and cranny you can find.

I don't know, it doesn't make sense to me. I like grinding and looting to me. Glad they implemented the classic system.
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>>323184514
You're going to have to find the oddity points though. I can't just avoid it. So it's a necessity to make my character powerful though.
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>>323184561
>I just bought the game but let me tell you how it works
It's fine that you like classic more but oddity is a fine system too
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>>323184557
Pickpocket.

I actually like it that some of the oddities are unobtainable without it.
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>>323184695
How wrong am I though? You're going to have to look for shit. I don't know. I'm not trying to mindlessly bash the game here. I want to enjoy it if it's more enjoyable than classic though. Should I try Oddity?
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>>323184561
Well the thing is you should be digging through every pile of crap you find anyway since there's a decent chance of a useful item
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>>323184819
Just give it a shot. Early game goes pretty fast anyway.
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>>323184819
The nature of the game is that you end up looting every container you find anyway. I mean if that really sounds like something you don't want to do, then take classic. Either is fine. Classic even feels more rewarding in certain ways because you know even if this group of assholes you kill have nothing of value, you'll still be gaining useful XP from them, whereas with oddity you could potential gain nothing at all.
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>>323184792
>tfw lv 0 pickpocket
fuck
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>>323185143
It doesn't have much use though. You only use it once in a sidequest and that's it.
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Is there a full list of psi mentors yet?
I remember that each doctor in major settlement aside from junkyard and SGS has one.
Also that psychokinetic mine is somewhere in depot A.
Also that cryo shield can be found in the area with Vanga and her Lunatics.
Also there's cryo orb in the location with mutants in core city where you assist Gorsky.
And that there's self-immolation spell in the rape dungeon basement in Foundry.
Where's the rest?
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>>323185143
You can't get all of them anyway, unless you join JKK and make most of factions hostile.
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>>323185312
It has one good use, you can steals drugs/other consumables from enemies before starting combat.
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>>323176376
>Anybody got pointers for a total noob?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxG64b5SH_o
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>>323185510
10 CON is not necessary. 9 at best.
1 point is better used for 4 dex so you can get lockpick without skill penalty and arguably for 50 in Throwing for a good accuracy on medium distances.
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is 9 str necessary or can I just eat str food equip metal armor and leave it there.
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>>323185313
>psi mentors
sgs has psi mentors

the rest of the game has you find human HMs
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>>323185313
Keep in mind there is some rng involved with finding them out in the field. I once found a cyro orb spell in Depot A, for example.
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>>323184561
It's obviously not fit for players who like killing everything in sight.

It's for players who like to sneak around and use non-violent approaches when possible. Makes them not end up underleveled.
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>>323185827
you can equip it without the requirement.
you'll be a snail though.
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>>323185683
>10 CON is not necessary. 9 at best.
If you want high CON you might as well have 10 to take Thick Skull.
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>>323186190
Thick Skull is obsolete with Locus of Control. Borderline harmful as it will drain AP.
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>>323186123
FUCK YEA JUGGERNAUGHT
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Is it possible to use stealth and sledge, sneaking around and smashing heads in without anyone else noticing? How viable is it overrall?
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>>323186284
It takes Locus 15 turns to cooldown. If you get stunned or incap'd again, you're fucked.

But then, if you haven't murdered everyone before they get a chance to restun you, then you've failed as a psyker
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>>323186284
Missed you were talking about psi builds.

Yeah it's useless if you can get Locus of Control.
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What is the highest quality limit on crafting materials?
Is 150 in tailoring and electronics enough to craft the most advanced tactical vests, psi crowns and energy shields possible?

Also, do persuasion checks go past 100 at some point?
Thinking about full psi who is more or less competent in throwing chemical and incendiary grenades at medium distances.
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>>323186931
>What is the highest quality limit on crafting materials?
170+ is the highest I found.

>Is 150 in tailoring and electronics enough to craft the most advanced tactical vests, psi crowns and energy shields possible?
It might be a little too few to craft something made entirely out of only 170+ parts.
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>>323186931
No one knows anything about the social skills, last I checked.
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>>323186439
Its possible to go stealth and sledge however knife is way better suited for stealth because of its unique perk called Cutthroat. The perk makes stealth killing a lot easier than hammer because in order to pull off a stealth kill you need to kill them before they make noise ( Gun Shot, Yelling). But what Cutthroat does is it stuns your opponent thus silencing him and giving you plently of time to cut your opponent down.

Sledge is possible you just need to find a way to kill or silence them before your opponent makes noise.
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>>323186931
I think 50 persuasion will be enough for everything.
But social skills are useless anyway. Persuasion will only make quests shorter or get you a good ending for a few.
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>>323187230
Not built for stealth at all, but I was able to get some gear together and snuck up on a lunatic. Bashed his head in in one turn...and then his buddy apparently saw and shot the hell out of me.

So do you have to kill them in one turn, or in one attack?
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Out of curiosity, what sort've shoes have my fellow psykers been wearing? I've just been running around in some ancient rathound Tabis for a while, just because I'm not sure what else to wear.
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psi only character. I must know

TRANQUILITY
OR
PSYCHOSIS
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>>323187717
PSYCHOSIS
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>>323187610
Depends on what you need.
I've invested in throwing a little so i went with heavy boots that give caltrops immunity.
You don't really need to move around that much as a pure psi who has force walls and traps at his side.
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>>323187534
Yes but you also have to not be seen by anyone else. I think you were spotted when you kill him.
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>>323187717
There's a ton of debate, but it comes down to personal preference. Do you want to have a larger/more efficient psi pool, or do you want to go full glass cannon for crits?
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>>323187717
It depends on how you're going to play.

Tranquility for controllers.
Psychosis for glass cannons.
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