Im playing this for the first time whats special about it v
It kinda reminds me of zelda
It's fun
it's comfy
>>323068568
Feels comfy I haven't gotten use escorting the girl yet but besides that it seems alright I'm attempting to beat this tonight how long is it
cool OP, I'm playing shadow of the colossus for the first time myself, did you get the HD collection?
it's a very short and easy game but it's so cool that I don't mind. I am hoping there turn out to be more colossus's after this final one though because this will have turned out to be just over six hours long
>>323068789
3-4 in average. 6 if you're retarded.
>>323070425
Beat SotC a few weeks ago, shit was intense.
>>323070425
I did get the hd collection sadly I Spoiled some of SoC for myself a long time ago hopefully that doesn't kill the experience to much
>>323068445
desu i never understood why people like it that much.
SotC seemed way waaay bettee, While ico felt kinda clunky and not very fun to play.
but then again protecting ashley was the worst part of RE4 and Ico is that taken to the extreme
>>323074014
it's very pretty and the castle design is super cool
the animations make the characters seem very realistic and makes you care about the girl
the story is simple and memorable
>>323071573
>I Spoiled some of SoC for myself
Like, did you accidentally read up on how to beat certain colossi or something?
The game is ONLY about figuring out how to kill them. The bits and pieces of story really aren't all that important if they got spoiled.
It's just got a nice mood to it, it's very well crafted. It's not exactly exciting, but there's a lot to appreciate about the design.
I like to think of it as the unseen part of the princess rescue story. Normally, in things like Mario, you save the princess and roll credits. Instead, you're in the castle, and get the princess within 3 minutes, then you have to fight your way out against immense odds.
It's a boring ass platformer only loved by lonely hearts who get to live out their white knight fantasies with a stand-in waifu.
Shadow of the Collosus is basically the same premise with marginally more gameplay. If they were one game they might have as much content as a rushed to production indie title.
Maybe that's the reason their new game isn't out yet. Team Ico realized no one cares about a giant dog beast if they can't sublimate their >tfw when no gf
>>323068445
>please tell me what to think /v/
Play the game and fuck off.
>>323076543
Nice projections, friendo
>>323068445
I never minded the American cover too much, but it really is astounding uninspired the thing was compared to the one Ueda would make shortly after.
Can't wait to see how the level design works out in TLG. I loved how the castle had a similar layout to things you in the Souls games, where locations are visible from different areas and align perfectly instead of just being all magically jammed within some small dimension
>>323070538
I finished it in 10 hours.
>>323079489
What'd you get stuck on? The game is quite short, so it's hard to imagine it taking all that long even for first timers
>>323079328
>I loved how the castle had a similar layout to things you in the Souls games
>>323079793
>Ha ha, I've got him now! He made a typo on an anonymous malaysian waterpainting board and thought he could get away with it, now his whole family will be ashamed of his mistake!
>>323079793
Oh no. A typo. Whatever shall I do? Oh dear. Oh my.
It's paintamatic.
Anybody ever read the book? What did you think of it?
Personally, I felt it was ok, but felt like it was fleshing out things too much to the point it might as well has been an entirely unrelated story with the amount of new characters and changes in the plot.
>>323068445
It simulates holding hands. Something autists never have the courage to do. That's probably why so many fucking weirdos like this shit game.
>>323082807
>>323076543
>le friendless virgin meme
>>323068445
Not the US cover art, that's for sure.
>>323083212
It's not like you play a game for its cover art
>>323083740
>>323084618
Well you don't.
>A Japanese made character that actually looks Asian
>>323082616
Eh, it's ok. It is a story that doesn't need to be told but if for whatever reason you're craving more of Ico I don't see why not.
>>323088006
Had I not a considerably better fan novelization, I'd have probably enjoyed the book a bit better. But as it stands, it did feel a bit overhyped by the many people who kept bringing up its existence in the early days when even getting rare artwork for the game was a trialing ordeal
>>323079328
Yeah, I wasn't surprised at all to see that Ico was what got Miyazaki back into games.
>>323090470
He had left gaming before?
>>323091393
>Miyazaki describes himself as a difficult child. “Unlike most kids in Japan, I didn’t have a dream,” he says. “I wasn’t ambitious.” He eventually found himself aimlessly pursuing a degree in social science at the well-respected Keio University. As he approached graduation, he considered applying to a game development studio, but drifted into a job at the US IT company Oracle Corporation.
>Several years later, he started thinking about video games again. He met up with some former college friends who suggested new titles to play. One was Ico, a mystical fairytale in which players assume the role of a boy who must lead a waif-like girl by the hand along a castle’s craggy ramparts, pursued by their ghoulish captors. “That game awoke me to the possibilities of the medium,” says Miyazaki. “I wanted to make one myself.”
>But Miyazaki had a problem: at 29, he was too old to apply for graduate positions and too inexperienced for anything else. “Not a lot of places would take me,” he says. “From Software was one of the few.” Ema Kodaka, who edits Miyazaki’s scripts, believes this career change, which resulted in a considerable drop in pay, might be why he is held in such regard by his staff. “He is a unique talent,” she says. “In Japan, even today, people usually join a company as a graduate and stay for life. For Miyazaki to change career and, within 10 years, become company president – that’s unprecedented in Japan. It’s inspiring.”
A villain that did nothing wrong.
>>323068445
Nothing. It's literally escort: the game. Enjoy hitting black spirits with a 2x4 until you don't want to finish it.
>>323091868
She literally made a child just to be her proxy and treated her like an animal. That's pretty wrong.
>>323091868
>Killing innocent shotas to make yourself immortal
>Not wrong
>>323083212
If you like the PAL art, check out Giorgio di Chirico - his style massively influenced it
http://www.moma.org/collection/artists/1106
>>323091868
>>323092091
>yfw you realized the queen is literally Mono from SoC
Damn The Last Guardian better not suck. Any speculation? I figure they're hunting down the griffins because they believe (and may be right due to some aspects of their design) they contain fragments of dormin (much less than those in the colossi), and part of the purge includes people (as the kid gets caught up, and dormin clearly passed on to Ico as seen in the horns). The kid uses the griffin to bail from jail and the two try to escape, in the process we see that though the griffin has some dormin in it it's not inherently evil (so the theme of the sins of the father passing down might be subverted, which seems to be part of the theme in Ico, albeit modified).
The kid or griffin dying seems like a pretty cliche direction to go, and based on prior games the endings are bittersweet and loss manifests itself in pretty surreal ways (Yorda turning into a creature like her mother, maybe living in an afterlife, Wander becoming a baby) so maybe the two return to the villiage only to be exiled by their own.
>>323092764
MIGHT be. Personally, I don't think so since a lot of things wouldn't add up. But hey, game is vague, so to each their own with the theories
>>323092764
I was thinking that
Dormin even loses the queen sounding side of his voice when gets revived.
>>323093134
I'm more privy to the idea that it wont' be hugely related to SotC or Ico. Like how those two games only have a minor, though tangible link, I like to imagine TLG will wind up being inconsequential to either stories, if it's even meant to be the same world at all.
One fun idea I had, would be for the fortress/kingdom being what the castle in Ico originally looked like before whatever happens in the game destroyed all but what you see in Ico.
>>323079489
took me about the same
>>323079710
i got stuck on the part where theres a hole you keep dropping through...i can't really remember but yorda wouldn't follow and i had to open a different door or something in the end.
Literally took 3 hours of trial and error to get past it and felt stupid afterwards.
>>323093694
That's definitely a possibility. I'm kinda hoping it'll be a sequel to Ico in order to wrap up the story in some way, but the idea that it's the castle pre-destruction might hold up, considering both locations seem to serve as a prison of sorts.
If there are still Emerald Idols (I forgot what they're called, the ones Yorda opens) in the prison, then that'll lend itself to establishing the game as a prequel to Ico
>>323094195
The garden? Because there is that little waterway you have to both be in, and then get Yorda to climb out of so she's with you on the topside. Really, only problem with that part was how the shadows could respawn and try to nab her while you're opening the gate to let her in.
Didn't help her AI was incomplete in the original US release
>>323070538
>tfw getting the Castle Guide trophy
>>323094568
Not really much to followup with in Ico's case, outside of what Yorda and he do after escaping the castle. Even then, many debate if they ever did meet up for real given the divide on the post-credits sequence and if it were real or not
>>323094624
yeah that's it
>her AI was incomplete in the original US release
explain? because that would help me understand why I originally thought she wasblind
>>323068445
A slow start but one of the best third acts in video games, stick with it
>it gets good after [x] hours
no seriously it does
>>323094882
Sony pushed the game out the door a little bit early, for the fall market or whatever since the US release like early fall of 01. Meanwhile, Japan didn't get until early December, a good 3 months later. For that, and the PAL release, the game saw a number of improvements. Chief among them being Yorda not wandering off just after letting go of her hand, as well as her being helpful in puzzles by either looking at something you had to interact with to outright pointing at them
>>323091868
the final boss was great. pretty simple gameplay wise but still a "puzzle" of sorts
>>323071573
i watched a let's play of it about 1 year and a half before i got it and it didn't ruin it for me but thankfully i forgot just about everything in the lets play
>>323095750
Could have been a bit more involved, personally speaking. But I liked how you had to play with the statues to avoid her attacks when the sword was knocked away
>>323079328
this
>>323082616
do you know where i can download it?
It's a great game.
>>323082616
is the book complety different of something?
>>323085508
i play some games because of the cover art
>>323091712
and here I was feeling sorry for myself for not accomplishing anything at 24. God bless you Miyazaki, fucking champion
>>323090470
Miyazaki likes Ico?
>yfw the fight with theghost Icos
Ico ramped up surprisingly near the end
>>323068568
>>323068789
Comfy? I'm also playing through it now and it's inspired a pretty constant sensation of tension and unease in me.
>>323096883
Probably on some digital book service. As for something like a PDF of it, can't say I know.
>>323097097
Way different. There's even an origin for the Horned statue on the bridge and a whole new motivation for the queen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orAFndiwlng
A beautiful game
>>323091712
Ico Shadow of The Colossus And Dark Souls are my favorite games
>>323082616
Is that what tells you thatThe Queen is Wander's girlfriend
>>323097227
Kind of shallow to then turn down a game if the artwork is somewhat bad
>>323092764
how?
>>323097802
No, nothing ever says or implies that anywhere.Though the Queen is in cahoots with a dark god that she needs Yorda as a sacrifice to bring darkness across the world
>>323093134
>Yorda turning into a creature like her mother, maybe living in an afterlife
What? They lived happily ever after on that beach.
>>323068445
>adventures in babysitting the game
enjoy
>>323098143
A common theory is that Mono received a portion of the Dormin's power/soul. Of course, the Dormin are implied to be many, like legion many, not just two beings
>>323092764
I didn't buy this until someone pointed out how the female half of Dormin's voice gradually fades over the course of the game, while "Mono" gets stronger and stronger. By the end, Dormin's voice is 100% male and Mono coincidentally comes back to life, grabs the horned kid, and fucks off. It was literally all according to keikaku. Dormin funneled some of its essence into Mono and her new power source is the horned kids she herself is responsible for creating.
it's like pottery
it rines
and also makes this entire franchise a degree more depressing
>>323098301
Even without that theory, it's still pretty depressing since Wander might not be himself anymore. Sure, a baby takes his place in the pool, but how do we know it's still him? Because having your mind while stuck as a babe is pretty scary.
>>323093134
What happend at the end of Ico was it a dream or did they both survive?
>There will never be a comfy Lost In Blue type game with Ico and Yorda
>>323093449
Dormin and the Queen are different beings
>>323098592
Yes
Yorda is a qt and awakened me to many of my fetishes.
>>323097767
Start listening around 30 seconds in your video and compare it to this:
https://youtu.be/R0aoqbDNKaA?t=29s
>>323097227
Speaking of it's very disappointing that Shadow's cover wasn't art like Ico's
>>323098687
How do you know that?
>>323098552
I'm pretty sure he just reverted straight back to a baby with horns. I doubt it's another person, not that it would matter because he lost all of his memories and turned into a baby.
>>323094802
i think it was real
Anyone else still can't quite believe TLG is actually happening?
>>323098592
It's up to interpretation. Some say it's real. Some say it's a dream. Some even say it's the afterlife and BOTH are dead.
>>323098702
Of all the various female characters in game and anime, I can't find myself sexually attracted to Yorda. At least not in the "I need upskirts of her" kind of way
>>323068445
These days? Not much. It was one of the forerunners of the entire artsy action/platformer game, only it was actually a good game while at it. But I can understand that given today's oversaturated market in that genre it doesn't look like anything special though.
>>323098915
Losing your memories and turning into a baby is pretty much the same as becoming a whole other person.
>>323098861
Well, how do you know they have to be the same?
Ico is the most relieved I've ever been playing a game. The whole game is in this desolate and decaying castle and you're being chased by shadow creatures. There's nothing to do there and the queen is trying to kill you and keep Yorda locked up. You even get a glimpse of the bridge leading out to freedom. In many places in the game you can look over the chasm and see the forest which represents freedom and possibility. Even when you leave the castle you still have to go back for Yorda and it doesn't look like you make it out but in the end you do (possibly). When I was on that beach I was very sad but when I saw Yorda I was ecstatic. Freedom!
Do you think TLG will tie back into the other two games? There was obvious continuity between them even if you don't buy any Dormin/Mono body possession theories.
>>323099134
>Well, how do you know they have to be the same?
I don't, it's just a theory.
Calm down, man.
>>323099052
It is quite sad how everyone is aping Ico and/or Shadow of the Colossus and failing to realize that there was more to them than just vague, artsy tones. Hell, even Miyazaki realized this with the Souls games given how he always wanted completing his games to feel like an accomplishment.
>>323068445
Mary Sue graphics kinda ruin it.
>>323099134
>Losing your memories and turning into a baby is pretty much the same as becoming a whole other person.
I know, which is why I said so but it's still the same human. His experiences are different growing up so he is technically a different person.
I wonder what Ico's life was like as a child. Was he in the village before the village elder decided to take him to the castle? Was he just wandering? What happened to Mono? Questions.
>>323098301
well that kinda ruined Shadow of the Colossus for me i don't believe that
>>323099549
Not to come across as a weeb, but Japanese devs clearly didn't get too caught up in the games-r-art fad and never forgot to actually make their games fun. The artsy side of all those games never felt like it was detracting from the game itself by shining way too large a spotlight on themselves.
>>323099438
I think and hope so. As soon as we see what the enemies look like it will probably become apparent when it's set.
>>323099485
I am calm.
>>323098692
yes to what?
>>323099608
Hard to say. The manual for the original PS2 game seemed to sound like Ico had a bit of a shit life growing up, since he was blamed for everything.
The book at least implies he was somewhat respected, but only because the villagers didn't want to be petrified if they got uppity and killed him themselves.
>>323098993
I guess I shouldn't say fetish, it's more like that I like on girls.
Short hair, bare feetI'm not a footfag, I swear, see-through white dresses, and knife-ears.
>>323099872
We have seen then, the armors. Though whether they're tied to the queen or something unrelated, it's hard to say.
It is pretty cool how they're based on the original PS1 Ico enemy concepts.
>>323098861
they just seem different
>>323098915
Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are depressing
>>323098915
Losing all of your memories is just awful it's one of my biggest fears
>>323100431
Ico's a little more upbeat, if only because the conclusion is still more hopeful than SotC, which has an uncertain feel since the lands are now entirely cut off from the rest of the world (at least until Mono and Wander can build a raft), and how life there may be uncertain now that the curse keeping it in a perpetual state is gone
>>323100036
exactly
>>323098993
I prefer it being real or the afterlife i hate to think it's a dream
>>323100583
Guess you're not much for games that have amnesia as the big focus then, huh?
>>323098702
what kind?
>>323100662
>Ico's a little more upbeat, if only because the conclusion is still more hopeful than SotC
If it's not all a dream
>>323096883
You can get it off amazon if you're a paying guy,but it shouldn't be that hard to find using less reputable sources.
>>323098592
Like others have said, it is implied Yorda stays behind and dies. Ico dies at sea or something, or from the blood loss/infection the broken horns are likely to cause, though some refute it considering Yorda seems to have inherited the powers from her mother upon her mum's death, no reason why couldn't have moved herself to Ico. Also, countering Ico's injuries many cite he was tougher than most due to the curse, and may have survived as a result.
Regardless, I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless, I saw the literal end as a bittersweet "at least we're together" ending.
>>323098702
? Like hand holding and being easily startled? Or being chased by blackcreatures?
>>323100331
Dormin is multiple beings, it refers to itself as "We"
>>323100887
Eh, even a dream would still a bit more uplifting if only because it means Ico managed to do something in his life that wasn't expected of him.
Now, whether people will accept him or think he's still a threat is a scary thought
>>323098993
I'm attracted to yorda in the way that i would want to marry her i don't want her sexualized
>>323100583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwigmktix2Y
You know what's worse? Losing your short term memory.
>>323099134
i don't want them to be the same
>>323101041
>>323100861
>>323100104
Medium-sized breasts as well.Hand-holding was too lewd to list.
>>323101041
Well there's also the fact that the idols are shown glowing in the credits that lends itself to Yorda somehow surviving. Possibly, the spirits once more lent their powers to return Yorda to normal and send her adrift to wind up on the beach.
Though how her pale butt wasn't munched on by a shark is anyone's guess
>>323101041
>Regardless, I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless
They have enough watermelon to survive
>>323101123
That's what I always remember whenever people pull the whole "female voice disappears" thing. While it's a fun theory, some who hold it do seem to forget the Dormin are numerous, possibly hundreds. And they say "We" after hijacking Wander's broken body
>>323101041
>I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless
The beach is up against a sheer cliff with no easy way to get up but I'm sure Ico could climb up there or he could swim around the side and find a new entrance or Yorda could use her powers or something if she still has them. There's lots they could do. Compared to the rest of the game a peaceful beach ain't nothing.
>>323101453
And could eventually find their way off the beach, they're clearly on some landmass, so it stands to reason they'd probably just have to swim/sail a ways around and find civilization. Or at least a road to some place
>>323101041
>I always thought they were on a barren beach so they were fucked regardless
At least Ico isn't strangling Yorda
>>323100104
oh i had all of those before also i love pale skin yorda is perfect
>>323101041
i usualy like digital books better because i keep my house dark but i don't like kindle is i'll buy it if it's under $20
>>323102557
>>323101123
yes but the queen seems to be a single being like maybe a part of dormin
>>323102695
>>323101342
yes medium is the best
>>323102826
>>323102996
>>323103110
>>323101453
>>323101041
Watermelon? Black creatures chasing a pure white girl? Somebody call pol I think we're onto some subtext here.Joking aside, I don't think survival is relevant to the story but the optimist in me sees them living on
>>323101715
That's another argument for surviving I suppose. All in all though, like mentioned, the end of the story is that they're together in some capacity so I think survival was secondary to the point the devs were trying to make, though it makes the ending sweet/bittersweet depending on how you view it.
>>323102475
I feel ya. Kindle version is like 9 bucks and you can get a used for like 6 with shipping.
>>323102734
The queen clearly commands some kind of power similar to dormin (black substance around her, turns the boys into black substance, which has been in practice for at least 3000 years considering 1 horned boy per 100 years, resulting in 300 coffins assuming that was the only coffin space prior to the other parts of the castle being destroyed. My guess is she's trying to at the very least, gather the very dilluded parts of dormin for her power. She may be some kind of sorceress that was able to harness dormin's power over time to sustain herself, and once she gets all of him she'll have all his power (which seems pretty dangerous considering the prior civilizations had to make collossi to house just 1/16 of his power.
>>323068445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqRf7ZON-gg
I could just listen to this all day.
Is the ico&sotc hd collection any good or should I just emulate instead?
>>323103243
>>323068445
It's all about WHEN you play something.
How the fuck did these games get away with being worth $60 back in the day? /v/ would absolutely shit on them as being these pretentious style-over-substance "art games" if they came out more recently.
>>323103492
>>323103468
It's well worth the price. For one, it's the PAL version of both games, which had some extra features added that the original US versions didn't get
>>323103468
It is however it uses the European controls for Shadow which some say are inferior (I've never played the America version) but it has some extras apparently.
>>323103445
I can't be the only one who hears guinea pigs squeaking when this plays.
I love guinea pigs
>>323103615
>>323103685
Cool I wont have to go through the trouble of emulating then
Cheers mates
>>323103590
ICO was new. It had a different mindset than all the other games. It came from Sony itself, not a indie studio. It had no agenda. It didn't try to push any political views in your face. It was just a cute little story.
And the handholding technology was pretty cool.
>a game with a hand holding mechanic
>and it wasn't even censored
What a time to have been alive.
>>323105319
>you have to actively hold the button to keep holding hands in the JAP/PAL/HD versions
Aggdo
>original concepts of Ico had robots
It's a handholding simulator.
>>323106364
Can you post them? I can't find anything reliable.
>>323107006
If you look up the trailers for Ico, one of them shows some kind of mechanical thing in them. The game had quite a lengthy development
>>323095329
It's good from the start.
>>323068445
It's a game based entirely on the worst mechanic in video games. That's pretty special.
>>323108830
Yet it does it so well. RE4 is probably the only other game that does escort missions perfectly
>>323109685
I wouldn't know, I quit playing the moment it became an escort mission.
>>323110375
Shit, me too. I hated that shit.
>>323110375
In RE4? The game is still very much the same. Even with Ashley, she's able to be stuck in boxes or otherwise easy to keep an eye on without too much trouble
I like escort missions. I love having buddies in video games.
>>323103445
same
>>323103590
Life was better back then.
>>323103590
it's well worth the price i replay them all the time
>>323106364
glad the robots where not put in the game
>>323108159
It's good but it's pretty bland for a bit.
>>323068445
It's the best game of all time
It's not really that good but it seems retroactively good when you know it's by the same guys as SotC
>>323079328
I wish they would do some kind of ico souls game
>>323113176
Still, it would have been interesting to see how some of the scrapped ideas would have panned out.
>The shadows were originally knights that Ico had to knock down from below or from above
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point
>Yorda was originally meant to be escorted back to her room.
The last one is particularly interesting, if only because it makes me wonder what would happen should you failed. Was there something tying her life force?
Though I can bet one reason for the change was the unintentionally perverted nature of the goal
>>323113773
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point
i wish this had made it
>>323113582
Considering Miyazaki is a confirmed fan of Ueda, it could happen. As said, Ico certainly shows off the level designs that would inspire the Souls games. Though it is funny how some people still miss the detail about Yorda's cage and the mechanisms related to it.
>>323113970
Only thing I can see not working with that is it would have either meant having to create a cast of NPCs, or finding some contrived excuse for it being empty. And let's face it, empty towns only work in the case of the world being a shithole like the Souls games where everyone normal and sane are tucked away from the player's sight to wallow in fear.
>>323113773
>The castle overlooked a small town which would have been visited at one point
Does not fit with how we see these games now but that would have been very interesting.
>>323114273
>And let's face it, empty towns only work in the case of the world being a shithole like the Souls games
Or Ico
>>323114432
But the world in Ico isn't completely shit. We barely know about it beyond two games, and it usually seems the locations where the action takes place are shitty, though the forbidden lands was certainly more habitable looking than the castle which was clearly going to collapse sooner or later.
>>323068445
It kinda sucks. It's somewhat novel because you are really underpowered and the puzzles/obstacles show a higher level of creativity than your average game.
But SotC is way better.
>>323068445
>playing sjw shit
>>323113970
this
>>323114894
Geez, at least the earlier bait was trying. At least show some effort.
Still a shame they didn't just do a full on remake for SotC, even sadder that Ueda decided to no restore some of the completed, but removed colossi.
>>323115146
i'm all about minimum effort, maximum impact but it looks like i arrived to late
next time
>>323115582
Doesn't really work with these games since nobody ever found them pretentious or try hard
>>323113316
This picture is cruel and should not exist.
I got tears in my eyes when yorda got sepperated from Ico on the bridge i thought that was the end of the game
Ico hits a more visceral part of my psyche that SoTC doesn't. SoTC is about wonders, the wonders of beasts and lands of old. It most definitely has the theme of companionship twofolkd: The horse and Wander doing all this shit for Mono. But Ico man, I dunno. I just don't know why it tugs at me. Maybe it's the whole "youth" thing the game has going for it. The queen yearning for eternal youth at the cost of others, meanwhile Ico and Yorda exploring the castle as if they were the only beings in the world, an adolescent's paradise that the queen can never capture.
>>323115836
How so?
>>323115850
>>323113582
>ico souls
just end yourself
>>323115836
Why? TLG is confirmed not dead for now.
>>323068445
Be careful, if you have a short attention span or is bored easily, you're gonna get bored.
That aside, play it, it's a good game.
>>323115836
You do know TLG is back on track, right?
>>323116134
It offends me that there will never be a game about the seven of them trying to survive amidst the ruins of Icoland, hated and outcast by literally their entire world
>>323095578
She does it in the ps3 version though, so everything's cool now.
I love how pressing R1 felt like holding her hand
>>323117164
That's pretty much what I was saying
>>323095578
Nah the biggest differences were things like foliage, grass, and placement of save couches. I remember playing the PAL version via emulator last year and being like "what the fuck where did all this grass come from? Isn't there a save couch supposed to be here?"
And is it just me, or on the RAREST of occasions does Yorda sometimes say "Ico?"
>>323117341
>that subtle controller vibration
>>323117538
Foliage doesn't really mean much for gameplay, though. As for the couches, they were more or less the same, with a few tweaks. But Yorda's AI is the biggest thing that was changed since the original American version had her as a borderline retard who practically jumped into the arms of your enemies.
Not sure if she does say his name, but she does certainly say a few things outsides the cutscenes. Before, it was just her startled yelps when you struck a wall.
>>323118209
Naw it don't, but a game like Ico it does a LOT for atmosphere. Plants can determine the age of something, they can be a serene sight.
>Select all images of grass
>>323118563
Not like the original was all that barren, it still had some really grassy areas, even where you normally wouldn't have it. Though it was cool how they completed that bridge near the area with the giant crate. Especially since it allowed for a less convoluted way of getting Yorda to the grand hall instead of that long roundabout with the rails and having to climb on the box at least 3 times
>>323116269
I was like "JUST GET IN THE BOAT WITH HIM WHAT THE FUCK"
>>323068445
It's fun.
>>323116329
>>323116329
souls is great you cunt
>>323114051
What do you mean?
>>323121318
The room where the cage is found connects to the queen's throne room. Look at the wall where you lower the cage, there's a steel door big enough for it.
Then go into the queen's throne room and move the camera up, you'll see the exact same door high up on the wall, above the throne.
>>323079328
Last guardian seems more a spiritual succesor to ICO than SOTC
>>323068445
What's special is Team Ico, they're magical. They only made two games and they're the coolest two games ever.
>>323123020
they are
>>323068445
How good is it to emulate? I hear it has broken shadows or something on the pcsx2 page and needs software mode. anyone have any experience?
>>323122739
Never said it wasn't
>>323123020
SotC is overrated garbage, honestly. It's literally just a glorified puzzle boss rush that you can beat in like 5 hours and never look back on.
>>323123609
>>323097581
Come on man, the shadow monsters aren't THAT spooky. Let the windy isolation calm you.
>>323123980
I mean, let's be honest here. What else is there to the game?
>>323124184
Literally any game can be boiled down and classified as shit in that same way.
You aren't proving anything by doing it here.
>>323123609
You're not entirely wrong, but it's pretty fantastically presented, it's pretty unique without being le obscure hipster shit, and a lot of love was clearly put into it, i think that's why it was so well recieved
>>323124184
Great soundtrack. Creative monster design. A surprisingly thoughtful story that makes you question the morality of its characters.
>>323123020
I love how intense the endings to both games are. The stories are so light-on with barely any cutscenes, then they just go all out in the final moments
>>323124498
Yeah, but it's like all style, no substance. And this was pretty late in the apex of the 6th gen, when ridiculously good games were coming out left and right - many of which had way more content and work put into them.
>>323124560
More like a pretentious, overblown orchestral soundtrack, goofy-looking earth and stone monsters, and a cliche fantasy plot about some dumbass resurrecting an evil god to try and revive his girlfriend. What a great game. Whoopee.
>>323124819
It had plenty of substance though. Far more than any other games after that have aped it. Titan Souls? Oh sure, it's challenging, but it's pretty much a gimmick with the "one life, one arrow" thing.
>>323068445
That version of the cover doesn't really do the game justice.
I wish Shadow had more stuff to look at in the environment. I like traversing large distances but if there were maybe something more interesting to look at, excluding the lizards. If there was another thing like the lizards. I dunno.
>>323125239
The fact that you misused the word pretentious tells me you're either not as serious as your post implies, or you're an idiot
>>323125328
I'm not big on the East vs West shitposting, but I really do dislike some of the older Jap games getting nonsensical, crap boxart because apparently we can't handle a simple, aesthetically pleasing bit of art on our boxes.
We need mondo radical turbo tubular shit.
>>323125448
Only reason we didn't get the Jap boxart originally was because it hadn't been made yet
>>323125239
>More like a pretentious, overblown orchestral soundtrack
Of all the orchestral video game soundtracks in existence SotC has one of the least 'pretentious' or 'overblown' (not even sure how to quantify that to begin with). It's the perfect amount of 'blown' considering what you actually do in the game. It's literally perfectly fitting.
>>323124819
I wouldn't say it has no substance. it does have a solid idea, bring back the soul of Dormin to save Mono. it cuts the bullshit and lets you get to each colossus without issue, which makes you feel even more bad for killing the creatures that are so easy to get to and kill.
>>323125747
Not to mention Dormin is hardly "evil", they're ambiguous at best. They uphold the deal from the start, and clearly don't imply any kind of deceit when they hijack Wander's body. Likewise, Lord Emon isn't some dick for the sake of being a dick, he's somebody wholly dedicated to whatever religion Wander's country and he follow
>>323125394
He's completely right though. The game is garbage.
It's just another case of /v/ having shit taste in everything.
>>323125693
I don't need an epic orchestral score backing my slow, wonky climb up some giant, silly looking rock monster. It's corny as all hell.
>>323125984
No, he's not. The word was misused. And the game is hardly garbage.
>>323124819
>no substance
Sorry there weren't a bunch of pointless side quests with waypoints or epic combat finishing moves. The great thing about games like SotC is that they don't fuck around and get straight to the point. Maybe a small tutorial and then no bullshit, you go out and do your thing. I think you need to not be a teenager to appreciate that.
>>323125239
>>323126012
Calling it "corny" is a matter of opinion there, bub
>>323126012
okay dude
>>323125239
/v/ is such a shit place. Fucking hell.
>>323126012
>corny
i'm going to guess you regularly play western AAA games and think they're totally gnarly and badass
>>323126012
When thinking how hard it must be to do the physics for a game like SotC, I think they did a pretty good job. I only had a few times where it was wonky like climbing the beard of the whichever colossus. it being corny is debatable.
