Why don't anybody take videogames seriously?
Because video games honestly aren't at the point where they can be considered art.
>>322860271
Yes they are, just look at Undertale, the best art videogame ever made.
>>322860585
Toby hates you.
>>322860585
>Undertale, the best art videogame
Debatable. I wouldn't classify it as art, personally. Does it convey any messages aside from the bullshit people are looking too far into? Does it leave an insightful impact on the player after they've played it?
Because it's a game. The rich 1% want to enforce that games of any sort that aren't the sweaty and violent sport are kids toys.
That's why we don't have families sitting down after dinner playing a good VG that isn't Mario Party or D&D.
>>322860728
Toby loves everyone who gives him money.
>>322860779
>Does it convey any messages aside from the bullshit people are looking too far into? Does it leave an insightful impact on the player after they've played it?
First of all, Utilitarian art isn't the only kind of art that exists. Second of all, anyone can call parts of a game "bullshit people are looking too far into" because they're too retarded to understand the implications or outright statements of the contextual evidence presented. Third of all, yes, there is. Even if it's as shallow as "Don't kill and don't be killed." Of course, if I were to talk about the deeper/complex messages of Undertale, I'd write an essay.
>>322859629
>you're reading too deep into things that aren't there
Those shits exist for every genre. There's a distinction between interpreting the intention of the author/director and reading too much into nothing and it doesn't depend on how hard you want to think.
>>322859629
>EVA
>High art
>Waifu pandering and fetish fuel everywere
>Anno himself stated that much of the symbolism was total bullshit he thought was cool
>>322859629
>Eva
>art
Top kek
>>322859629
Because people (read: idiots) are desperate for everybody to take video games seriously. Quality will speak for itself, it doesn't need a bunch of retards showing off a few artsy fartsy games to the world as if they need to be compared to art of other mediums.
>>322860779
>"Does it convey any messages aside from the bullshit people are looking too far into?"
>2015+1
>Seriously asking that question
>Not already knowing that pretentious "art"works with apparent 2deep4u meanings but actually devoid of all content is the norm everywhere
Why do you think there's idiots going out there calling anything art with a straight face, even if it's a steaming piece of fresh shit?
Why do you think Underfags are this self-absorbed and autistic to defend a simple game?
Also >>322865431
Things like this doesn't need to be defended, they have to prove their worth themselves.
>>322859629
Who cares, most people don't even like the great gatsby.
>>322860585
lmao it looks like shit
>>322859629
evangelion's for fags though
>>322859629
Because "game" has a negative connotation--it implies that it is not something serious adults should concern themselves with.
>>322865431
tbqh senpai, this. I think one game that will certainly be recognized as an art in the future is Chrono Trigger. Playing it now, it still feels as good as ever.
>>322860787
>That's why we don't have families sitting down after dinner playing a good VG
local multiplayer is over, anon
>>322859629
I thought they already are taking it too seriously.
>>322859629
>Why don't anybody take
>Why don't anybody
Mainly because 'gamers' consist of people like you
>>322859629
I don't see how utilizing symbolism or irony rhetorically establishes something as being deep. Anyone can use symbolism or irony; it's more important how it's used or for what point it is trying to make.
>>322868275
Is this supposed to be a shocking revelatory statement?
>>322868552
The problem is, not even 5% of entertainment works use symbolism or irony anymore. Everything is face value.
>>322868705
And why's that bad?
>>322868792
Because I enjoy symbolism and irony ;)
>>322868792
Because it's uncreative and lazy?
>>322859629
All 3 are shit.
I don't know how can people like Zelda games, they're pure shit for brainless retards.
>bad combat
>poor mechanics all around
>uninteresting kid-tier puzzles
>generic artstyle
>generic villains
And the only defence you faggots will have for it will be
MUH ATMOSPHERE
MUH CHARACTERS(aka. autism)
MUH NOSTALGIA I'VE PLAYED IT WHEN MY WIFE'S SON WAS FUCKING BITCHES IN OTHER ROOM
and similar bullshit.
>>322859629
You forgot to put your name and trip diagonally across the image.
>>322868938
>Characters and their interactions is autism
Anon.. that's the exact opposite of autism......
>>322859629
Because videogame are considerably new and were born in a time period where even art itself can be not considered art.
The fanbase attacking any kind of study or criticism of the medium doesn't help either.
>>322859629
>the GG
was shit, is shit, and forever will be shit.
>>322868938
>uninteresting kid tier puzzles
I can't think of a game that has puzzles that aren't "uninteresting kid-tier puzzles".
>>322869087
this game had some pretty based puzzles.
Also myst/raven series
>>322869016
you forgot to mention
>Fictional characters and their fictional, super-expressive(so autistic kids know what's up) interactions
>>322869087
>I can't think of a game that has puzzles that aren't "uninteresting kid-tier puzzles".
Play more adventure games.
>>322869235
I think video games are responsible for the explosion in autism rates
>>322868938
>I don't like things that you like
>>322860805
I'd give back those 10 dollarinos to get anon to fuck off 2bh
>>322869525
I'm objectively right.
You can't like things I don't like unless you are shiteater, because everything I say is true.
>>322868938
>be me
>23
>play first Zelda game in 2010
It's fucking Spirit Tracks
>shit is actually good
>whathaveibeenmissing.png
>go deeper, get a 3DS to try Ocarina of Time in 2011
It's so fucking good
>Upgrade to the 3DS XL
>Let non-gamer friend borrow 3DS and OoT
He fucking adored it
>Friends dad takes notice
>Buys a 3DS
>Gets OoT
Thoroughly impressed, bought A Link Between Worlds later because he enjoyed it so much
>check /v/ before bed
>see this post
>mfw
The Legend of Zelda is a hallmark franchise, deal with it anon.
>>322859629
>Why don't anybody take videogames seriously?
Are you stupid?
Videogames are serious stuff. Just look at all that money involved.
video games are the last bastion of absurdity. you don't want them taken seriously. you'll kill us all damnit!
>>322859629
>The great gatsby
Where are the Ozymandias pictures, Quentin?
the problem is that people don't know what art is, which allows opportunistic moralists and/or scammers convince people it's about spreading information (or bullshit) rather than experiencing stimulation.
>>322863750
What waifu pandering? Are you just shitposting?
>>322868938
Your (You).
