Sony is so advanced their consoles don't need thermal paste to run
Do you even know how thermal paste works?
>tfw running ps4 game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5YJsMaT_AE
>>322698887
Why did you do this to me anon?
>>322698887
Umm.. what am I supposed to be looking at here?
>>322698887
this can't be real.
>that msi on the tube.
>how to channel
how to what? how to not do it properly?
>>322698831
I assume it transfers heat to the heat sync but i admit im not an expert
>>322698887
I don't understand what's wrong with this image.
>>322699197
to me it looks like an official msi how-to channel is teaching you how to put thermal paste on a cpu very badly
>>322699234
it's real, but they took it down after leaving it up for like a year or so
>>322699197
someone who doesn't know what he's doing try to teach others.
>>322699239
ensures the heat transfers evenly from the surface of the cpu. its not essential
>>322698887
>when he just slops it over the side
>>322698887
I think this was supposed to be an example of how not to do it.
>>322699434
>>322699239
The paste is supposed to close the microscopic pores in the metal's surface.
When you take the heat sink off the paste breaks and ends up looking like OP's picture.
>>322699434
>I have to get half naked in order to game!
Must be a streamer.
>>322699446
>its not essential
That explains why it didnt ylod. The fan was extremely loud though
>>322699434
Wow, is this what you guys look like?
>>322699671
>not playing games entirely naked
You scrub
>>322698887
Jesusfuckingchrist
>>322699239
Its to even out inequalities.
smooth surface = less thermal paste needed
>>322699671
It's hot as balls here, so I'm just wearing shorts while I play games, I don't wanna melt.
>>322698673
that is paste
>>322699434
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaS9-I72FK0
i own a ps4 and replaced the thermal paste. Nothing wrong with the one they are using, it gets the job done but is cheap compared to what they could have used for 10 cents more per unit.
>>322699719
Only when playing on MSI rig
more like thermal PISS ok?
>>322699243
You're supposed to just put the heat sink on after putting some on there. No need to spread it.
>>322698673
Are you retarded or blind?
>>322699434
Sign me the fuck up.
>>322698887
He's wearing gloves so you know it's professional
>>322698673
That's what my last 2 CPU's look like.
Am I supposed to be putting on thermal paste?
>>322700129
Retarded i guess. Ive used thermal paste when building pcs but ive never replaced thermal paste.
>>322698887
Wasn't there more of this by these people?
>>322699883
Is someone else doing the VoiceOver?
>>322700480
That IS thermal paste, jackass.
>>322698887
>>322698887
>>322698673
There's paste there, but it's not very good quality.
Want to know something even worse?
Those metal tops protecting the silicon die underneath also have shitty paste that will become dried up and useless within 2 years.
Pic related, the only way to fix it is to take a huge risk and pop them off, clean them, and use a proper thermal adhesive.
>>322698887
Great, now post the part where they lock in the can to the board.
>>322701097
just not the same when it's overdone
the first one looks believable retarded
>>322698673
Thermal paste here almost doesn't do anything, it's what underneath those plates what's need to be changed to actually make difference.
>>322701103
>PSX
I want this meme to end.
>>322700516
Well now you know. It doesn't stay wet. It's just wet so you can get it out of a tube. It makes a contact conduit between the processor and the heat sink so the heat transfers properly instead of staying on the chip and damaging it.
Now that you've opened it up though, the contact is broken and you have to replace it with fresh paste.
BTW I can tell that's a ps3 because I had to get a new heat sink for mine too. FYI the heat sink will do nothing to stop the overheating. (fans get really loud, correct? and it's very annoying). There's a fundamental flaw in the way they made the RSX in a certain generation of PS3 and it gets so hot that it fucks up the solder under the RSX chip. The only way to fix it is to perform a reflow on it (or have someone else do it for you) and hope that the solder settles properly. This is still just a band aid though and will need to be done again until even doing that doesn't solve the problem.
>>322698887
>>322699434
>yfw MSI makes pure quality videos compared to ASRock
Someone here that remembers THIS gem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p6rLRoo0eY
>>322699845
Not everyone lives in a 3rd world shithole like Australia
meanwhile, at the apple repair center...
>>322701382
>such a strong meme that the manufacturers themselves print it on the hardware
You are this stupid.
>>322698887
>>322701097
I've always wondered why the fuck thermal paste can come in such a giant fucking tube. You hardly need to use any of it
>>322698887
>>322701705
probably targeted at people that assemble a lot of them
>>322698673
Apparently they aren't that advanced seeing how it has thermal paste on it. I hope OP isn't a PC master race because this is embarrassing.
I also assume he's not a sonygger, so bets on Nintendork or Xbot.
>>322701536
>Summer only exist in Australia.
>It is illegal to film ads during july America.
>>322701693
>being this stupid
>>322701705
>buy arctic silver
>it comes in a tube the size of a AAA battery
>>322701097
Kids in Africa could have eaten that paste and motherboard. Asshole.
>>322701405
Thanks for the info. I actually sold it to my friend that was helping me and bought a slim. Because like you said, replacing the paste on top didnt help. Hes not annoyed by loud fans as much as i am and he plays in a cold basement. Ill let him know what you said
>>322701705
For assemblers and repair departments. There's also people who replace their TIM every 6 months or yearly for whatever wacky reason.
>>322701915
I think the op is implying that the ps4 needs no thermal paste, because the shitty paste they use dries so fast it's as if nothing was there anyway.
Which I've never understood why manufacturers use shitty paste since decent paste would only add about a dollar to the cost.
>>322698887
WTF
>>322700118
What about that shit about priming the heatsink by smearing paste on it too with a credit card?
>>322702041
>buy arctic silver
>it comes in a miniature syringe
>consoles not only have inferior hardware, they are also cheaply built
>>322698887
>he doesn't at least scoop off that giant glob running down the side
>>322702493
What if you put it in your butt
>>322702493
That package looks suspect as fuck. Mine came in a syringe but it was in a proper package.
Someone got that screencap of the autist posting his fucked up build and getting signed up for gay dating and shit by anons?
>>322702341
>Which I've never understood why manufacturers use shitty paste since decent paste would only add about a dollar to the cost.
to cut corners wherever possible. more money for the ceos. intel has been caught recently doing the same shit using some awful ass tim on ivy bridge chip ihs. even its saves a nickel it adds up when your shipping millions of units.
>>322702508
Skylake
>>322702739
I got some recently and they'd just shipped it in a plain old envelope.
>>322702341
>only add about a dollar to the cost
>manufacture 5 million units
>that's an extra 5 million dollars it costs them
Wew lad.
>>322702571
try it and find out big guy
>>322703158
He obviously meant retail price.
>>322703158
Which is nothing compared to the cost of the entire unit, but I see your point.
>>322703158
That's the kind of shit people refuse to understand.
Sure a dollar isn't a lot for one product.
But it's a shit ton counted up to a million or more units produced
>>322702927
This.
1 dollar per unit x 40 million PS4s shipped.\ = 40 million dollars on thermal paste? NIGGA FUK U AND GIVE ME THAT 40 MIL AND LET THEM USE CHINKY PASTE INSTEAD NOW GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY OFFICE
>>322703158
Shame those bangs look like absolute shit on real girls.
>>322698887
>>322702508
This has been the case literally forever.
Consoles have always used shit-tier parts when building, aside from a few exceptions.
Shit, current gen using AMD should have tipped you off about that.
>>322703158
>5 million dollars
You realize were talking about a corporation not a person right?
>>322702927
>Which I've never understood why manufacturers use shitty paste since decent paste would only add about a dollar to the cost.
I want to add to this.
There is no fucking consumer advocacy in the world. None whatsoever. The government is too small to actually vet any product industrial, commercial, or consumer before it hits the shelves.
Some people try. Consumer Reports, Tom's Hardware, Linus Tech Tips, and the like. They own and run websites that give expert opinions of product and make a great living off of it but the vast majority do not care enough to give them the power to force manufacturers to not fuck the consumer.
People have no standards either, they just care that someone works, and we're rapidly moving towards a world where people ACCEPT that nothing lasts. Thirty years ago the reputation that you built shit would murder your company, now, everyone expects everything to be shit, so it is built like shit and thus we'll never have anything good.
>>322703601
You realize that corps care even more for every little cent compared to the avrg person right?
>>322698887
I squirmed.
>>322702341
>Which I've never understood why manufacturers use shitty paste since decent paste would only add about a dollar to the cost.
>sell 10 million things
>figure out how to make them 1$ cheaper
>get 10 million dollars
>>322703348
Only works on a specific face type, from my experience.
So how often do you guys reapply thermal paste to your rig?what's the recommended time frame for changing it?
No, the fucking consumer should be less price sensitive and buy the superior product. Companies only have to cut back on everything because they've realized the consumer knows fuck-all and buys things only based on price tag.
The consumer will always be a dumbshit, you can't fix their sensitivity to pricing. What has to happen is that government has to step in and impose a totalitarian-level of manufacturing standards to ensure minimal waste with superior performance: universal power adapters, uniform connectors, modular design, interchangeability, capacity to be repaired and people who can make a living off fixing things.
>>322698887
>>322704215
Anytime I notice the temps are rising, but even then it's most likely a dust/fan issue. There really isn't that much of a need to change the paste so I only change it whenever I change CPUs or coolers.
So as someone who is a bit of a retard at this stuff, do you need to reapply thermal paste at all down the line? I built my computer almost 3 years ago and havent touched the insides other than to dust it
>>322699434
>Monitor not plugged into pc
>>322704926
oh fug i just noticed >>322704215 asked the exact same thing a few posts up
>>322704215
5 Years, 3 years for prebuilt/shit quality paste.
But once those 5 years have passed you would already be thinking of upgrading your CPU instead changing the paste.
>>322704926
Are the temperatures ok? (-48 Idle and under 70 Max load for hours)
If yes, no, you dont need to.
>>322702508
does that make you feel better about spending 3 times as much on a pc?
>>322704215
>tfw old AMD rig
>had to change it every few months or else it would literally bake on
>tfw trying to take CPU cooler off
>pulls CPU out of socket
>>322705887
Buy high quality paste and a good HSF.
My 2010 AMD rig is still under 32°C at idle with a improvised laptop HSF.
>>322706162
it was AS5 or something similar
>>322705537
Nah i never had any issues with it, which is why i never even think about it
>>322706162
Using artic silver 5 btw.
>>322706162
You probably have thermal glue instead of thermal paste.
>>322706725
meant to >>322705887
>>322704215
I've been using the pre-applied thermal pad on my stock cooler for 4 years, once every 6 months I blast the inside of my case with some compressed air and pry any dust-bunnies out of the fans with a plastic tube and some tweezers.
I still get the same idle and load temperatures as when I first built it.
>no cable management
>shitty temps
>rebuild PC
>clean up cables alot
>change TIM
>temps worse
>>322704215
never ever
>>322706479
Arctic Silver 5 is a mary sue paste
>>322707960
Well i got it for free.
>>322698887
HOW THE FUCK DOES THAT GUY HAVE A JOB? DELETE THIS
>>322699434
>>322698887
Wot to fuk. He fucked it up.
>>322708934
>inb4 what is going on
HSF comes in contact with videocard fucking it up.
>>322701819
i wanted to like this movie
>>322709010
>>322709443
This one is retarded killing the all the fan bearings.
>>322709443
I kind of want to let my case get this dusty. That must feel orgasmic. That is the next level of case cleaning.
>>322709520
if there is that much dust in there the air compressor is the least of the problem to the bearings. not to mention in doesnt take that much psi to do the job
>>322698673
I just ordered the pieces to build my first computer, do I have to buy thermal paste or will it come with my CPU? I'm supposed to put just one little drop on top of it right?
>>322709778
212 EVO comes with a 7/10 paste dont worry.
Change that motherboard for a GA-Z97-UD3H.
Change the seagate 1TB for a WD Black.
PSU seems somewhat too expensive for the price.
>>322709778
Get a better rated PSU.
>>322709778
>buying processor in box and cooler
>>322703348
you need a round as fuck face for it to worklike minebut the bangs need to go down to the eyebrows, it does look shitty if its any higher
>>322709978
Not him, but is the black worth it? My family got me a 2tb hard drive but got the blue. I know that having the extra rpm or whatever is good but I didn't want to be ungrateful so I slapped it in and thanked them
Did I fuck up
>>322703158
>>322704051
Post more short haired qts, please.
>>322710896
Buy the black anyways, use the blue for movies and shit and the black for your vidya
>>322710896
Blue is fine, there is a minimum performance difference but a huge durability and reliability difference.
Dont worry.
>>322710695
pls be in london
>captcha is eggs
>>322710954
how about you post more geks?
>>322709978
>>322710550
I could replace the PSU with a Seasonic G-750 for 20€ more, is it really worth it?
I don't know shit about motherboards and just picked a compatible one with decent reviews, What's the difference really? Would a GA-Z97-D3H do the trick?
>>322710565
I mostly used http://www.logicalincrements.com/#!/ with some adjustments, you mean the 212 EVO is not necessary?
>>322709778
I always tell people to get Noctua fans. Yes, they're expensive, but these guys really know their shit. And hey, the fan's gonna stick to your cpu for 5 years or more, might as well spend the extra 20 bucks
>>322710954
that's one happy looking snake
>>322698887
>>322709617
just go clean your moms pc.
>>322699243
You only use a small daub of thermal paste, about the size of two grains of rice.
And you don't spread it manually because that creates an uneven surface. Instead you just directly attach your heat sink plate over it, which causes the thermal paste to spread out nice an evenly as you screw the heat sink on.
>>322698887
This guy is either wildly incompetent or a sadistic asshole.
>>322698887
Using a glove like a fag.
>>322711362
Get a EVGA 750 G2.
ASRock is a brand for cheap motherboards, they're under average quality, not great at all specially when overclocking.
>D3H
And no it wont do, Never cheap out in your motherboard and in your PSU since this parts are the last you will ever change if you ever do at all.
If you want the best out overclocking get a GA-Z97-UD5H, a cheaper version is GA-Z97-UD3H but you cant use M2 and 2 SATA ports at the same time and a bit worse for overclocking.
Your HSF(212 EVO) is a bit too cheap for overclocking, its not great for it but it does the job better than the stock intel HSF, get a NH-U14S.
Post more horrifying webms
>>322711362
If you don't live in Africa or don't put PC in your ass and you don't plan to overclock it, then original cooler that comes in box is enough. Otherwise it would make more sense buying retail cpu. Though if difference in price is too small, then don't bother.
>>322701432
so its a root kit
>>322701103
Replaced the thermal on mine recently, but I'm too much of a bitch to try and pop off the plates, guess I just have to deal with the fan ramping up after 20 minutes.
reminder
>>322704215
My current rig is almost 8 years old and I haven't reapplied the thermal paste on my CPU. No temperature problems at all
>all this work just to play a fucking videogame
PCucks are just as bad as then vinyl record fags who spend hundreds of dollars just to listen to their Beatles album.
>>322712681
>chocolate
Why did I lose my shit
>>322712796
bet you won't play a game because it doesn't have hand holding tutorials
>>322712681
Is this because chocolate makes the computer sweeter, thus work better?
>>322704215
I use the cross method
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyXLu1Ms-q4
>>322712681
>Pink lipstick is a better thermal paste than Rosewill RCX-TC060PRO
Goddamn.
>>322712830
Someone had to test it out, there was a channel in youtube that used to test this, got deleted a while ago.
>>322712796
How lazy are you? Did your dad need to hook up your console too?
>>322712681
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwY7Rnd8p5Y
>>322698673
You're not the only one anon
>want to buy waterblock
>they only sell them for later models now.
>>322713090
I'm not sure it'd trust it to stay the course of half a decade, mind you.
>>322712681
I wish someone tested things like this over a long period of time
>>322699243
1) Too much paste. The point of using thermal paste is as an intermediate substance between the plate of the CPU lid and the heatsink's mounting surface. Air is too insulating. Just about every thermal paste you'd consider is somewhat less conductive than copper itself, so you just want enough to replace the air. If you had a perfectly level heatsink and CPU, there would be no need for thermal paste as they'd have complete contact.
2) As a continuation of too much paste, its going over the damn sides. Not harmful but obviously undesirable with non-conductive paste, but worse yet a fair bit are conductive which could lead to shorting the motherboard.
3) Spreading it out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGRLaFv3hZw should be a good enough visible example. Air bubbles should be practically nonexistent, while they could persist after mounting the heatsink if the paste is spread beforehand.
>>322712082
Alright thanks, I appreciate the help. Picked the EVGA 750 G2, UD3H, NH-U14S and removed the SSD for now to fit in my budget
>they don't delid their cpu
>>322711532
snakes dont have arms senpai
>>322713634
>ps3 water block
nigga what?
But seriously, reapplying thermal paste makes my anus pucker. Glad you don't have to do it that often.
>>322714147
that one does, maybe that's why he's so happy
>>322714032
I would change the NH-U14S for a U12S and get the UD5H instead the UD3H.
If you cant afford it yet, keep the UD3H.
Get a cheap Sandisk Ultra ll 240GB if you want a cheap SSD that works.
If you have other questions ask.
>>322704215
>water cooling
>increase of one degree over the course of 3 years
At this rate it is more likely to change the motherboard, and CPU altogether than thermal paste.
>>322698673
>>322713634
>all these anons replacing the thermal on their ps3's
>>322704215
Never. Do it once properly then clean your case from dust and build up once a year, every year. I do mine before summer in may.
6 Years now and no problems.
>>322703348
nah
>cleaning out an old 2008 tower
>decided the heatsink looks crusty as fuck, unscrewed that shit off and cleaned out the dust
>notice the thermal paste, not knowing what it is, decide to leave it alone
>plopped the heatsink with compromised, old ass paste back onto the CPU
>built a new PC from scratch 6 months later, learned how the components of a PC work together, realize the horror of what I did
