>If consoles are going to keep endlessly pushing for better graphics, more pixels, bits, flips, flops and fannies we don't want them to use it to render Ellen Page crying on a toilet, we want to see it rendering more trucks exploding than we've ever seen explode before. We want to see every single bit flying off and embedding itself in the flank of a passing squirrel with poor reflexes.
Is he right /v/?
I'd rather them focus on making games and not action flicks.
I do wish it would go back to the anything goes days of PS1, where anything kinda went and car fighting games were plentiful.
Japan is way ahead of him.
I'd prefer a game with PS2 graphics but huge draw distance, dense crowds or fully destructible environments rather than a corridor first person shooter that boasts about 4K-quality zit textures on some space marine's face.
>>322633667
What about realistic stubble on a marines face
No, it goes beyond that.
If technology is going to continue improving, it needs to be for the sake of gameplay too, not just graphics. A game like, for instance, Katamari Damacy would be 100% impossible to create on the SNES or Genesis, but it became possible on the PS2.
Games have to push the envelope and do new things with their newfound technology. This generatiom of games has been full of games that at their core could have been on the PS2 or Gamecube mechanically, only taking advantage of next gen hardware for graphics.
In fact, the push for graphics is negatively affecting level of content in games. Bloodborne is a much smaller game than Dark Souls but looks prettier, although only marginally so. One wonders if it's worth it.
yahtzee is always right
>>322633619
but where is the ass?
>>322633667
Mein Neger.
Absolutely agree. Where's our supermassive games? With the kind of processing power we have today, we should be able to render huge, complex things.
>>322633235
He sounds like me when I was 15, but he's a grown man. He's an adult almost a decade older than me.
I guess that's why he's still single despite being a success. He's still a childish, fedora'd misanthrope who is probably unbearable in real life.
Just listen to how much of a faggot he acts like in that Joss Whedon "debate"
He's unbearable, even though I agree that Whedon is bad.
To be a popular vidya reviewer/critic, you need to get 15 year olds on your side, so it's no mystery to me why he's gotten so popular amongst edgy, clueless, antisocial faggot kids.
>>322633235
As long I can see what's going one and don't affect the gameplay (and the gameplay is good), it will be fine for me.
>>322633882
>Bayonetta and Devil May Cry are god of war rip offs
More environment interaction. Think Red Faction Guerilla but with terrain deformation as well.
>>322633351
>>322633782
I think he's saying that if they INSIST on going that way than actually focusing on gameplay...
>>322633667
>I'd prefer a game with PS2 graphics but huge draw distance, dense crowds or fully destructible environments
It's scary how I too have thought of this.
>>322633235
Visuals don't do anything for me. We can already process as many exploding trucks as we want. All we're talking about here is how pretty they look while they do it.
Literally *tips fedora* the e-celeb
>>322633619
Japan wastes time making garbage, fuck Japan.
>>322634224
it's a trilby
>>322633619
Why don't they just license this technology to porn game developers instead of pretending to be a fighting game?
The general idea is alright, but I know for a fact that Yahtzee has shit taste in games. Shit like Just Cause 3 is straight up this guy's alley. I've seen him play Just Cause 2 with a controller and it's just painful to watch.
If we have more powerful hardware we should put that hardware to use. If we can render more physics objects and more explosions then we should do that instead of regressing with games like Heavy Rain.
>>322634260
>outing youreself as a pedantic fedorafucker
lol
>>322633667
I agree wholeheartedly. I'm tired of all these games with all of the systems hardware being used to render graphics on what is essentially a regression in complexity from games from the 90s.
>>322633943
So what's your counter argument or are you just here to bitch? Don't just be a shitter make some points against what he's saying.
As long as your brain understands the information being displayed on the screen the graphics don't matter. Good graphics are achieved when it's inoffensive and easy to understand everything you're intended to see. I have no problems with graphics until I can't understand what I'm seeing. Actually Bloodborne had pretty fucking horrible graphics for me until I put a bunch of hours into it because all the zones look almost identical with the stupid fucking copy-pasted gravestones everywhere and the same fucking colors on everything. It was so hard for me to keep track of where I was and where I needed to be going. I eventually got used to it but fuck was it ugly and difficult to make out anything memorable or spot useful patterns.
>>322633619
Stop posting this pathetic excuse for an ass. It pisses me off every time I see it.
>>322633882
Apart from naming Infinite GOTY 2013 and calling Demon's Souls trash. Although he at least admitted to being wrong on the latter.
>>322633998
>implying Kamiya wasn't inspired heavily by GoW and preferred it to dmc3
http://www.1up.com/news/devil-cry-creator-interested-ninja
> "But out of all those action titles, there's one game that I am paying really close attention to, that I think is a rival game, a good game, which is called God of War 3. So I guess they're working on the sequel? I want to make a game that exceeds God War's sequel. That's one title that I'm paying attention to.
>"My impression is that it's very carefully made, the details are all carefully made. Devil May Cry was a bit rough, but I think that there's no roughness in God of War. I thinks that it's very well-made. So there's like a wall for your imagination or ideas, and when you're actually creating something, you don't even see the wall. But with GOW, I felt like I saw beyond the wall. So the GOW dev team's imagination and their ideas were like... beyond. That's something else that struck me. And also, I feel a bit bad about talking like somebody who is evaluating a game. But I felt like they created the game in a very good way which managed to bring in the users, they gave you a huge impactful feeling right in the beginning, and just drew you into the game. So I'm very impressed that they made the game like that.
This was a really poorly thought out analysis in the context of the original review.
For those that didn't watch it, Yahtzee basically said that AAA games should focus on making massively huge games like Just Cause because massive, content filled games are the only thing the AAA side of the industry is inherently best at anymore because of those games' inherent need for huge budgets and manpower, and that it doesn't make sense for AAA games to waste their budgets and manpower on games that could have been completed by a small dev. But then messes it up with a graphical comparison, which is where a lot of the wasted budget is going in a lot of AAA games.
>>322633619
Try again Japan
I watched a bunch of Yahtzee with my buddy a long time ago. He's boring and doesn't know shit about video games. I think he's somewhat knowledgeable about movies and TV shows or something so maybe he should just stick to that.
>>322634457
>Good graphics are achieved when it's inoffensive and easy to understand everything you're intended to see.
people don't seem to get this.
Motion blur and filters are king and you can barely see a fucking thing happening when you compare it to something like STALKER with extremely simple, extremely clear graphics.
Console games suffer from this extra hard every generation, bar a few, and it's tragic. Probably why Halo got so popular back in the day.
>>322634678
holy shit
>>322634678
Dios mio
It's pretty funny that /v/ used to love yahtzee back in 2007 and now the majority utterly despise him.
>>322633998
>Things he never said.
>>322634415
>please don't insult my eceleb! ;_;
He said what he wants to see in games is shrapnel tearing through squirrels and I'm calling him a faggot who sounds like an edgy teenager instead of an adult.
Do you seriously want me to have a deep and meaningful conversation about a point which is literally nothing other than "I wanna see more 'splosions"?
>>322635089
I got the impression that most people didn't give a shit about him.
>>322635089
he got popular. /v/ hates everything popular. Plus there's the fact that, for points and purposes, he is the stereotypical America/Woman/Child/Religion-hating fedora tipper of Reddit.
He gets a free pass from me since he is the precursor to a lot of those people, he actually wears his hate with appropriate clothing (mostly), and he's done more than review videogames and complain.
>>322635089
Yahtzee threads were always filled with retards and were pretty much 2007 bait threads
>>322635089
>Everyone else grew up and I'm still loving EPIC SHIT from almost a decade ago :D
Keep up the amazing work, Anon. Was there a point you were trying to make?
>>322633939
>GTA V wasnt huge and complex
okay.
>>322635640
Where did it say I like him? Just an observation.
Real reviewer coming through.
>>322635736
>looks fancier than SA but has less features
>>322634352
>Yahtzee has shit taste in gamee
Yahtzee has baffling taste in games. He's blatantly hyper critical of everything yet lists things like Bioshock infinite as GOTY despite that. He's one of the few people offering genuine criticism and actually dares to point out flaws and yet comes to such shit conclusions.
>>322636019
>le coaxed you with a snafu maymay
omg u got me bro O_O
>>322636092
>rageaholic
edgy
the angry gamer character has literally never been done before
>>322636092
His reviews are becoming more and more incoherent. He had actual explained arguments at some point, now it's literally just verbose nitpicking.
I still enjoy his VLOGS though.
>>322636092
>le i dont review video games based on books that ripoff some lines from another books man
>>322636250
Go to bed kid
Yes he is
>>322633782
This, 100%
It's why I didn't buy a Wii U. Why would I buy a next gen console to play games that mechanically were possible on the NES? Fucking Wooly World. Where's the innovation that SM64 brought us?
>>322634052
>>322633939
>>322633667
Man, when the PS3 was announced along with the "amazing cell" I thought neat, games will have countless more features and much more interactivity. I never thought about HD, high polygons etc. 10 years later, we're only talking about resolution, AA and stuff like that while games keep getting worse....
>>322635224
>He said what he wants to see in games is shrapnel tearing through squirrels
This bothers you?
Did you drop your spine somewhere while you were "growing up"?
This fedorafaggot's clear argument is that he wants video games to focus on action and disaster instead of whining heaps of shit.
Is that why you're so upset? You feel attacked?
>>322633235
>ever putting the face of someone alongside the quote
Even if he was right (and he is not), people would disagree because he looks like an asshole and wears a fedora. I'm pretty sure 90% of the people posting didn't even read the OP.
>>322633998
>>322635102
>what are jokes
>>322637829
Go on, say it. You know you want to say it.
You've seen a post you disagree with, so you want to go full retard and say I'm a SJW, from tumblr. Hell, you want to think I'm a feminist, too. Probably from reddit. Because you don't agree with me about an eceleb.
Go on, say it. Say I'm a triggered tumblrina and make a complete fucking fool of yourself. You know you want to.
>>322633619
Too bad the game is mediocre at best.
fap bait is sad.
>>322633235
Is he actually complaining about the Ellen Page nudes that go leaked from that game she was in? Imagine if that 3D model looked even more realistic.
>>322639546
u mad
>>322633235
I'd take an Ellen Page on the toilet game, if there were a 'from below' view
>>322638942
That isn't a joke.
>>322633619
This is a good ass you faggots. It doesn't have to be huge and floppy. Shape and softness are more important than size, a huge ass is still shit if it's just cottage cheese.
>>322636092
Thanks Sylvester Stallone
I guess it's time for Cobra to go OVER THE TOP!!
>>322633667
This.
Current consoles have made developers forget how clever optimisation and artstyle work.
Look at MGS3, apart from the lip-sync, that game still looks pretty good, why? Because of good optimisation, but more importantly; a clever fucking artstyle. It hides technical limitations with it.
>yfw he moves to america.
I have a feeling he'll become a twitch whore.
>>322633235
Yahtzee is right about most things, despite being shit at games.
>>322639546
You know what I think?
I think you're anonymous, that's what I think.
You're raging at a fucking mirror over here.
>>322640524
Surprisingly accurate.
I preferred his most recent article. It also explains the trend to the "female protagonist" crying we hear now, dads want their daughters to play vidya as well.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/extra-punctuation/15173-AAA-Video-Game-Dadbods
>>322640521
He hates interacting with people so I doubt it.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/columns/extra-punctuation/14860-Undertale-for-Best-Written-Game-2015#&gid=gallery_4930&pid=1
>>322639794
More to the fact that David Cage actually bothered to model her nude body.
>>322633235
How to judge a game according to Ben Yahtzee:
>Q: Is the game called Painkiller?
If Yes then it's a solid 8/10
>If no then it's irredeemable shit
>>322641174
Literally who?
>>322641174
He likes plenty of games that he shits on, you just have to read between the lines. Dragon's Dogma, for example.
>>322633235
Yeah, definitely. Yahtzee has a keen eye for this shit. He's made a couple of free horror games that were alright, so I'm a little biased in his favor.
>>322641269
He really didn't like Dragon'S Dogma.
Said it felt like he was pimping the mentally disabled.
>>322636092
It's Jim Sterling without the fat suit.
>>322641583
That was a joke about the pawn mechanic you autist. He clearly enjoyed the game from the way he talked about it.
I don't know who he is and don't care, but he's not wrong. Consoles are fucking insanely powerful compared to what we had ten years ago. Time for devs to make brand new experiences, full of impossible locales and eye-popping colours, instead of chasing a shitty copy of real life.
>>322641583
>Said it felt like he was pimping the mentally disabled.
Again, what are jokes?
>>322636092
I watched two minutes of one of his videos about a year ago and realized I'd actually found the most pretentious person alive.
Fuck that guy.
>>322640253
>Shape and softness are more important than size
Someone get this irishman out of here.
>>322640361
I recall the lip synch in MGS3 is supposed to be in russian.
>>322641875
You're an idiot, I didn't say big ass is bad or an ass can be too big, I'm saying size isn't the most important thing.
>>322641747
>>322641824
I get that it was a joke but there seriously was no tone of enjoyment in that one. You could tell he liked Spec Ops and Arkham Asylum and a few others but he seemed completely disinterested in Dragon's Dogma.
>>322633235
He used to be somewhat funny and insightful five years ago, I blame The Escapist for neutering him.
I hope he gets paid well in comparison to what he would have made as a youtuber if he held out a bit longer, most re-uploads of his work have a million views each, not sure what he gets on the site.
>>322642164
>Escapist neutered him
Remember him being censored for that trans comment?
Also in general, he was a lot more deadpan and gameplay critical in his earliest reviews and now he's almost entirely story oriented.
>tfw he is going to move to America in a near future
>Which means we won't be getting any more Let's Drown Out
That American girlfriend of his has corrupted him.
>>322633235
>still np ZP for undertale
WHEN YAHTZOO?
>>322642770
Good thing I haven't watched any of their All of Dark Souls series, so I'll just save them for when I have an hour of work to do~
>>322642925
He did an EP on it and said it would be too spoiler heavy to review.
>>322633235
>If consoles are going to keep endlessly pushing for better graphics
I feel like we're going to hit a ceiling at some point and something big might happen from it.
I can't really see graphics getting any better without game becoming even longer to be developed and requiring bigger budgets than they do now.
>>322643026
>so I'll just save them for when I have an hour of work to do~
But each episode is one hour,
>>322642568
What comment was this?
>>322642568
Exactly, the only review that he did before that felt like a run through as apposed to a full perspective on the game was his Demon's Souls review. Now that's the only thing he does.
If he has a ten year contract with The Escapist I hope he bails for greener pastures. The less clickbait and the more (what you can call) self sufficient personalities the better.
>>322636092
I'm pretty sure his "meet the cure" bit at the bottom was something Spoony did in, what, 2009?
It may have been from something else before Spoony, but I do not know.
>>322643550
And his Monster Hunter review. Nothing will EVER forgive the Monster Hunter review.
>>322643550
>the only review that he did before that felt like a run through as apposed to a full perspective on the game was his Demon's Souls review.
Quick to forget his Final Fantasy 13 review are we?
And he never finished any of the witcher games
>>322643550
I meant (what you could call), I'm stoned sorry
Also fuck him for not reviewing Shadow Warrior or Lisa, that shits right up his alley and could use the attention but he hasn't said dick about either.
I hate it how there are no vietnam games to make use of the modern tech. First we could only have shitty non-dense trees. Now we can make super cool jungles.
>>322643858
>Still being this fucking butthurt
He only played five hours of The Witcher and FFXIII too. You don't see fans of those games complaining eight years later.
>>322643956
>Shadow Warrior
mah nigga
>>322644094
stoked for the sequel
>>322643858
>>322643904
yeah but those games are pretty long, shit DS wasn't some pushover either but since mid-2010 he seems to be on a tight schedule so I doubt he has time to really articulate anything worth watching. Same problem with South Park post 2007, just rushed unwatchable horse shit.
>>322645073
He didn't get to the Great Jhaggi fight.
>>322633882
He's NEVER right.I exchanged a few e-mails with him in my gaming journalism days and he's a complete faggot who unironically thinks he's the smartest person alive. Total fedora faggot.
>>322633667
>>322633939
The worst part is that Ultima 7 had nearly 100% of objects be interactive in at least some limited capacity and 100% of NPCs be unique with their own daily schedules.
That was a quarter century ago. Games have regressed since then in terms of potential for interactivity and world building.
